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Hockey Discussions => Peewee Hockey => Topic started by: #4BobbyOrr on August 30, 2019, 06:27:59 PM
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trans and I back in the same division let's fire this shit up! Big game on Saturday - see you at the rink. Maybe your kid will be the first one to score on us this year.
What else going on out in Pee Wee A land?
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Predictions for the year???
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How did everyone look this weekend?
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Empire looked good. Gulls. Wave. Paramount looked ok.
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Empire looked good. Gulls. Wave. Paramount looked ok.
At this point (very early)think there is solid top 5. B.O.'s picks plus SDIA and ,08 Wave. Some small teams in size. At this level most kids do not know difference between checking and playing "physical". Once they do, as the year goes on, smaller teams will have trouble. JMO
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If true about 6 AA teams being dropped to A. It will make for a VERY competitive PWA division. There will be some good hockey. Now, do any teams in A get sent to BB ?
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Weekend scores anyone ,????
On a side note, when A team drops from AA to A I child is TO BE RELEASED. Why is it that the same Yenta who thinks she is the end all be all, keeps hindering a child's rights to move on. This is a child well being Yenta is messing with. I know its painful but look at your self in the mirror
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Heard 4 SoCal AA teams and 2 NoCal teams were relegated. Hopefully they do the same in A and BB to even out the brackets. Not fun watching kids get beat down especially at this age group when it should be about development and not what level they are playing..
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With the 4 AA teams dropping have we heard if those teams are staying intact at the A level or did they leave kids looking for new homes?
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With regular season about to start do we know if any teams are dropping down? There are definitely teams that should consider it!
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Looks like 2 teams dropped from A- SDIA and Saints. Based on standings I'm surprised a couple others did not move down.
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IMO
There were already 4 to 5 good teams already in "A". With a few AA teams dropping should make for a very competitive division. I would think over 5-6 losses would put a team out of the playoffs.
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Both OCHC teams and Kings 1 should have been forced down also, but thats my humble opinion..
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Slapper PWA has become the new BB division... "You can thank PWAA" Just watch some Live Barn games during CAHA Weekends like I do and you will see where I'm coming from.
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I dont disagree 2 cups...
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If you look in the standings in the past years there are always teams at the bottom of AA and A that go 0’fer and clearly should have moved down. This isn’t something that’s new.
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Slapper PWA has become the new BB division... "You can thank PWAA" Just watch some Live Barn games during CAHA Weekends like I do and you will see where I'm coming from.
Hope the games you were watching were your kids. If not, read a book.
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Trans4761... All the people who comment on this site need to read more books including yourself.
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Trans4761... All the people who comment on this site need to read more books including yourself.
Some more than others :P
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This weeks picks....
LIONS VS EMPIRE EMPIRE BY ALOT
EMPIRE VS OC1. EMPIRE BY 5
J FLYERS2. VS DA BEARS. BEARS BY 4
LADY DUCKS. VS. SDIA SDIA BY 4
ICE DOGS. VS JR DUCKS4 ID BY 1
JR DUCKS2 VS JR DUCKS3. JD2 BY 5
JR GULLS2. VS. JREIGN GULLS BY 5(BF still owes me $)
FLYERS1. VS. JR CONDORD. CONDORS BY 3
JR DUCKS1 VS WAVE2 JD BY 1
JR GULLS1. VS. WAVE 1. GULLS BY 1
JK1. VS. JK2 JK2 BY 5
GOOD LUCK EVERYONE
reserve the right to change picks before Sat.
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Is that score correct ?
Gulls 2. 23
Benny's 0
Now, BF still owes me $$, but DAMN !!
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Is that score correct ?
Gulls 2. 23
Benny's 0
Now, BF still owes me $$, but DAMN !!
Score sheet says 13-0 :-\
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Is that score correct ?
Gulls 2. 23
Benny's 0
Now, BF still owes me $$, but DAMN !!
Score sheet says 13-0 :-\
Scorekeeper's hand cramped after 13 ??
Any eye witnesses ?
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Really dislike how long it takes this year to get scores, stats and standings... SCAHA must still have AOL and dial up..
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This season both team mangers have to input stats (each inputs the stats for their own team), so it is taking much longer for the stats to show up. Of course, I’m not sure how long it takes SCAHA once both managers have input the stats, so they still could be the cause of the delay.
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Not bad for not knowing all teams
6-2-1
This weeks pics
Jflyers2. Vs. Jk1 Flyers by 1
Jcondors. JD4 Birdys by 3
DaBears Vs JK2 JK by 2
JGulls Ice dogs. Gulls by 2
Empire Vs JD3 EMPIRE BY 5
JGULLS.1 OC GULLS BY 1
WAVE1. SDIA WAVE BY 2
OC2. GOLD RUSH. GR BY 6
JFLYERS. VS. JDUCKS1 JF BY 1
GOOD LUCK EVERYONE
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Trans4761, we need you to join the PeeWee AA forum and start also giving spreads or line.
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Trans4761, we need you to join the PeeWee AA forum and start also giving spreads or line.
Sorry, no horse in that race. Plus I was told I needed to read more.
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Trans, do you have a gamling app we can put money on using your lines for 12 year old hockey??? (Ha).....
Good job on week one..
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Trans, do you have a gamling app we can put money on using your lines for 12 year old hockey??? (Ha).....
Good job on week one..
NEVER, say no to cash.
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How did the weekend go for everyone?
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Since Trans hasn't done his predictions, I will give it a shot.
Goldrush by 2 over Ducks
Ducks (1) by 1 Over Gulls
SdIA 7+ over Reign
Ducks (4) 7+ over OC
Condors by 5 over Flyers
Gulls (2) by 2 over kings (2)
Ducks (2) tie with Wave (2)
Wave (1) 7+ over OC
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Oops missed Bears by 1 over flyers
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Kings2 6-2 over Gulls2
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Kings2 6-2 over Gulls2
Sweet, thanx B.O., that moves my kids team up a notch. :)
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Scaha site has Jr Riegn beating SDIA 1 0.
Anyone one know if this is correct ?
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Both managers I think need to upload the game stats this year so it should be confirmed. At least that’s what I’ve been told.
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With the way the site has been this season I wouldn't say it's confirmed until the scoreboard page says final. It looks like one team hasn't input their stats.
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SCAHA's website is average at best. It shouldn't take 5 days to finalize scores.
Oh, and hello all.
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Quality competition lasts only 10-20 teams deep. A 16 team league is typically best. 4-5 teams usually able to compete, but are bottom feeders while 4-6 teams at the top as clear-cut teams for a championship.
Allowing teams to choose where to be and putting 20+ teams in a league is moronic. I too am sick of seeing a RUNNING CLOCK for every 3rd period because teams should have dropped down. Total garbage.
The top 8 teams in A are gonna have an amazing playoffs. The top 3-4 will prove to be capable of playing at the AA level (as middle of the ack AA teams) and that's how it should be. There should be overlap. The top 3-4 teams in A should be 5-10 capable in AA. Like it or not, SCAHA ruins this by putting 20+ teams in a division.
I don't need to drive 100+ miles to watch my kid get 2 shifts during a running clock 3rd period. If you are arrogant enough to play in the wrong division, your team should feel the natural consequences of a 20-0 beating. SCAHA and the running clock coddles and enables poor choices for division placement.
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This weeks picks
JD2. VS. GRUSH. RUSH BY 6
BENNYS. JD4. JD BY 3
EMPIRE. VS. SDIA. EMPIRE BY 4
JD3. IDOGS. Dogs by 2
JD1. DaBEARS YOGGIES BY 3
JK1. VS JGULLS1. Gulls by 1
FLYERS2. OC1. JF BY 1
WAVE2. VS CONDORS Birds by 4
Good luck everyone
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These were my PRESEASON ranking before the drop-downs.
| Team |
1 | Empire HC |
2 | Goldrush |
3 | Jr. Kings (2) |
4 | Jr. Ducks (2) |
5 | Jr. Ducks (1) |
6 | Bears |
7 | Wave (1) |
8 | Jr. Gulls (1) |
9 | SDIA (1) |
10 | Flyers (1) |
11 | OC Hockey (1) |
12 | Jr. Ducks (3) |
13 | Ice Dogs |
14 | Flyers (2) |
15 | Saints |
16 | Wave (2) |
17 | SDIA (2) |
18 | OC Hockey (2) |
19 | Jr. Kings (1) |
I'd like to update a weekly top 10 with the (MHR#) Will update tonight!
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WEEK 5 POWER RANKINGS and MHR#
- EHC #65
- Goldrush #56
- Condors #98
- Wave1 #106
- SDIA #192
- Ducks4 #220
- Kings2 #104
- Gulls1 #144
- Ducks3 #239
- Gulls2 #285
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How'd the weekend go for everyone?
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WEEK 5 POWER RANKINGS and MHR:
- [size=0pt]EHC #65[/size]
- [size=0pt]Goldrush #56[/size]
- [size=0pt]Condors #98[/size]
- [size=0pt]Wave1 #106[/size]
- [size=0pt]SDIA #192[/size]
- [size=0pt]Ducks4 #220[/size]
- [size=0pt]Kings2 #104[/size]
- [size=0pt]Gulls1 #144[/size]
- [size=0pt]Ducks3 #239[/size]
- [size=0pt]Gulls2 #285[/size]
1. [/font]EHC W(5-2 vs SDIA)
2. [/font]Goldrush W(6-1 vs Ducks2)
3. [/font]Condors W(4-1) vs Wv2)
4. [/font]Wave1 (idle)
5. [/font]SDIA L(2-5 vs EHC)
6. [/font]Ducks4 W(10-0 vs Reign)
7. [/font]Kings2 (idle)
8. [/font]Gulls1 W(7-1 vs Kings1)
9. [/font]Ducks3 W(4-1) vs ID)
10. [/size]Gulls2 (idle)
[/size]Yep, you guessed it, FIVE teams were idle. If you are asking, the answer is yes, there could have and should have been more games, but OH WELL!
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This weeks picks
Last week went 6-2
GULLS2. VS OC2 GULLS BY 5
EPWAVE. JK1. EPS BY 6
GULLS1 JD4 DUCKS BY 3
JD1 VS Jk2 JK BY 6
BENNYS. JFLYERS2 JFs BY 6
WAVE2 JD4 JDs by 3
GOLDRUSH VS JF1 RUSH BY 8
OC1. SDIS. SDIA BY 6
ICEDOGS. VS DaBEARS DOGS BY2
OC2. JK2. JK BY 9
GOOD LUCK EVERYONE.
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Week 6 POWER RANKINGS and MHR!
1. EHC 86
2. Goldrush 84
3. Condors 108
4. Wave1 125
5. Gulls1 199
6. Ducks4 135
7. Kings2 132
8. Ducks3 280
9. SDIA 249
10. Gulls2 326
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B.O.....
Is that score correct ?....
OC2 13
JK2 11
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B.O.....
Is that score correct ?....
OC2 13
JK2 11
Probably classic SCAHA double entry. Terrible system this year. Also, why were teams on a bye, but Kings2 played 2 games in one day? Moronic. Terrible. Waste.
Maybe that's why the score is so odd for that game.
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B.O.....
Is that score correct ?....
OC2 13
JK2 11
Probably classic SCAHA double entry. Terrible system this year. Also, why were teams on a bye, but Kings2 played 2 games in one day? Moronic. Terrible. Waste.
Maybe that's why the score is so odd for that game.
Gotta balance out schedule, ice slots.
No big deal. Happens all the time, 2 games in tournaments. If you want your lily Gretzky to play tier hockey, get use to it. Hey next week Wave 1 has a tough morning vs JK2 then a scrimmage vs Goldrush later that evening. Enjoy the ride. In a few years your gonna wish you had 2 games a few hours apart.
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B.O.....
Is that score correct ?....
OC2 13
JK2 11
Probably classic SCAHA double entry. Terrible system this year. Also, why were teams on a bye, but Kings2 played 2 games in one day? Moronic. Terrible. Waste.
Maybe that's why the score is so odd for that game.
Gotta balance out schedule, ice slots.
No big deal. Happens all the time, 2 games in tournaments. If you want your lily Gretzky to play tier hockey, get use to it. Hey next week Wave 1 has a tough morning vs JK2 then a scrimmage vs Goldrush later that evening. Enjoy the ride. In a few years your gonna wish you had 2 games a few hours apart.
Yes. I agree, Gretzky was a lily. Lemieux was far superior in every way.
As for ice slots, there is plenty to go around. That's just poor scheduling.
As for multiple games in a day, it happens at every tournament (not just tier hockey). Nothing to get used to there.
If anyone avoids AA/AAA its probably not to chase CAHA weekends all over CA to play 4 games in 2-3 days while the rest of the month is wasted on SCAHA throw away meaningless games and scrimmages. It's a pretty miserable system not for everyone; just those seeking "exposure."
I love the consistency of 1 game every weekend.
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Also, the joke was that there is no way in a million years OC was beating JK2, especially by scoring 13 goals. LOLOLz I am surprised they scored 3. I am blown away by the fact that it was a 4-3 game early in the 2nd before Kings scored 7 straight.
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THIS WEEKS PICKS
6-3 last week :(
JR CONDORS. VS ICE DOGS. CONDORD BY 4
JD1. OC1. JD1 BY2
JR REIGN VS JR FLYERS. JFLYERS BY 2
JR GULLS.1 VS EMPIRE EMPIRE BY 5
SDIA. VS. JR GULLS2 JG2 BY 2
WAVE 1 VS. JK2
*Game of the week * EpperlyWave by 2
JK1. VS WAVE 2. WAVE2 BY 4
Good luck everyone
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If your little Gretzky chooses to hacks at a goalie
After puck is covered, neither baby Gretz nor Daddy Gretz should be surprised when he gets cracked.
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Hey Trans4761 can you elaborate? Which game did this happen in?
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I think little Gretzky need to be change to little McDavid as all the teams has #97, none that I saw has #99
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If your little Gretzky chooses to hacks at a goalie
After puck is covered, neither baby Gretz nor Daddy Gretz should be surprised when he gets cracked.
hopefully the goalie got em...thats how kids learn
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Ahhhh, there's nothing like flying into the zone and taking a clapper from 10 feet and ringing it off the goalie's mask to send a message. It's the ol' Phil Esposito way.
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Ahhhh, there's nothing like flying into the zone and taking a clapper from 10 feet and ringing it off the goalie's mask to send a message. It's the ol' Phil Esposito way.
Period 1
Elitist South Orange County parent..." That's bullshit ref.....call something !"
Period 2
Lil Gretz chopping wood at our goalie, lil Gretz again gets what coming to him and more.
Elitist South Orange County parent. "Call something before it gets out of hand !"
Me " Dont want to get cracked, dont hit our goalie. If he does it again, I'm guessing he's going to get what's coming to him......again. "
Elitist South Orange County dad (in his skinny jeans, chanclas and tribal tats) reacts by saying something under his breath.
....PUSSY
**Btw chanclas is spanish for flip flops**
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SCAHA impressive on the scores up by today. Just not "final" yet.
It is becoming VERY clear that there are 5-7 teams that flat-out-do-not-belong in "A" which makes for a miserable experience. That Flyers (2) team is 3-3, but played and beat the 3 worst teams in the league. Hilarious and tragic all at the same time... maybe they should be in a flight together (see below).
I will happily call out these clubs and parents:
OCHC 1 & 2
Kings 1
Reign
Flyers 1 & 2
You are putting BB talent teams out there and making hockey an awful experience for those players (unless losing games by 10+ goals is fun for kids); I could be wrong, but I'm not. Why? I honestly must know WHY?!?!? Did the club/coaches tell you a fancy story of glory and promise? Are you "too good" for BB/B? Were there no other options/places/teams for your kids to play?
It was extremely obvious during the preseason which teams needed to drop, yet somehow they didn't get that memo. SCAHA needs to cap a 16 team MAX in every division. Determine it after preseason and call it "PW A Playoff Flight" and the rest get put into a "PW A Travel Flight" for those who refuse to properly place their player(s) in an appropriate zone for proximal development. To essssplain, if your player cannot skate/has trouble skating and shooting/stick-handling the puck, PUTTING HIM/HER IN A HIGHER DIVISION WILL NOT MAGICALLY MAKE THEM BETTER. (It's actually dangerous and your kid will get hurt.) Putting the player in a division where competition is SIMILAR promotes skill development and the ability to perform AT LEVEL is the key to player improvement.
Ask yourselves, does your kid ever touch the puck or even get a shot off during the game? For those bottom dwellers, when playing top 8 playoff caliber A teams, the answer is clearly "nope." Don't do that to your kid. Someone should call CPS on those clubs.
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Shame on the coaches and club yes, but it’s not always up to the parents. I am part of one of these teams. Parents asked to be dropped. Coaches said no. Probably new if we got a release most would not resign at a lower level. Not because of the letter, but because the team is a mess.
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Exactly unless all the parents on the team agree to drop and will resign the club and coach will not drop in fear of losing team altogether. Unfortunately this is the same in the Aa division there are 4 plus teams in same situation should have been playing peewee a instead of aa IMHO.
I would say if your team is a bubble team and if they played in the division lower and would win almost every game by 7-10 goals would that be right or do you risk playing up a division knowing that you may end up a .500 team and could steal a game or two from top 8 in division who are overlooking you.
In my opinion Scaha and cash need to be more involved pushing clubs teams where they belong from top to bottom and if you are going to flight any division it should be the B level. One problem is neither caha or scaha will do this for one simple reason this could cause teams to fold and them and the clubs to lose out on $$$$$$$$$$$$.
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I would say if your team is a bubble team and if they played in the division lower and would win almost every game by 7-10 goals would that be right or do you risk playing up a division knowing that you may end up a .500 team and could steal a game or two from top 8 in division who are overlooking you.
This point is valid on the surface, but dig deeper. That bubble team (top 1-4 teams in a division) typically is/are the teams that drop down or are simply correctly placed. They might be beating teams by 7-10 goals, but which teams? Certainly not any of the top 10 teams in the division. It is almost always the teams at the bottom (15-20+ place in a division) that should NOT be there in the first place.
Winning 5-1 is a solid win, not really a beat down. Typically the teams that do not belong end up getting beat with a running clock in the 3rd.
In EVERY division, the top 3-4 teams could win games at the higher level. Sure, .500 maybe/maybe not, probably, but if the divisions are set up accurately, that SHOULD be the case. That's the "zone." That's equal levels of competition on the ice; not running clocks.
Some of the teams at the bottoms of divisions are so bad, they can drop down and would be lucky to be .500..... yikes.
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Case in Point, the Reign started the season at PWAA, dropped to A and currently at the bottom with no wins.
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Case in Point, the Reign started the season at PWAA, dropped to A and currently at the bottom with no wins.
:o ;D ;D Don't get me started on that club... ::)
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POWER RANKINGS!!! and MHR#
1. EHC (W5-1 vGulls1) 67
2. Goldrush (idle) 87
3. Condors (W7-0 v ID) 122
4. Wave1 (W3-1 v Kings2)
5. Ducks4 (idle) 273
6. Kings2 (L1-3 v Wave1) 116
7. Gulls2 (W3-0 v SDIA) 377
8. Ducks3 (idle) 278
9. Gulls1 (L1-5 v EHC) 215
10. SDIA (L0-3 v Gullls2) 235
No new teams. These seem to be the top 10 for sure. Maybe Bears can sneak in, but I doubt it. Also, very strong possibility these are the 8 playoff teams.
GotW 11/24
(4)Wave1 v (1)EHC
(8)Ducks3 v (3)Condors
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BOTTOM 5
(in the spirit of the fun ESPN CFB site)
1. Reign ... -40 and only 3 goals? Says it all *BB* cough *BB*
2. OCHC2 ... 6 for 6 on loses that included a running clock -YIKES
3. Kings1 ... been shutout 2x and scored 1G 2 other times. Offense?
4. OCHC1 ... in 4 games you were either shutout or had a running clock
5. Flyers2 ... so, you're record is 3-3, BUT you beat 3 teams on this list lol.
...................Otherwise? 3 losses were 2 running clocks and a shutout -OUCH
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Blades of Steel, I agree and very well put.
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This works picks
7-0 last week
SDIA. VS. JK1 SDIA BY 6
GR. JG1 RUSH BY 4
JD4 VS. FLYERS1. JD4 BY 6
WAVE1 EMPIRE. EMPIRE BY 1
***game of the week **
JD3 VS JR CON JC BY 3
JF2. JD2 JF BY 3
ICE DOGS. VS. OC1. DOGS BY 5
WAVE2 JGULLS2 GULLS BY 2
OC2 VS JD1. JD BY 4
GOOD LUCK EVERYONE
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Case in Point, the Reign started the season at PWAA, dropped to A and currently at the bottom with no wins.
I can see your point however you were complaining about running clock and I wasnt talking about just beating the bottom teams by that many goals I was talking more about the whole division minus the top 3-4 in the division. This would make every game for the team that played in the lower division to be running clock so you cant win either way. I have an example of this for you. I looked at the preseason for the teams that moved up division and are not doing well at all since moving up. As the Flyers are on your list lets pick their current BB team. In preseason they played in Peewee B and beat every team by more then 8 goals that they played 5 games 59 goals for and only 4 against. Now in peewee BB they are 0-6 with -18 goal differential. so what would you propose for that team to play down and be in a situation of running clock every game or play up and lose every game by average of 3 goals. This is where the true problem arises for the bubble teams the in between divisions.
Now for my opinion the best way to handle all of this is to have these bubble teams play in the lower division for preseason and move up after proving that every game in the lower division is a 5 plus goal differential. Another option could be a forced play in game from SCAHA for the bottom teams ( teams getting beat with high differential in preseason) must play one of the top teams in the lower division and win in order to stay in the higher division.
Don't get me wrong I am with you about having to watch either your kid blow out team that doesn't belong or be on the other side of the beating. And in my many years of being involved in travel hockey my kid has been on both sides of the spectrum.
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Case in Point, the Reign started the season at PWAA, dropped to A and currently at the bottom with no wins.
I can see your point however you were complaining about running clock and I wasnt talking about just beating the bottom teams by that many goals I was talking more about the whole division minus the top 3-4 in the division. This would make every game for the team that played in the lower division to be running clock so you cant win either way. I have an example of this for you. I looked at the preseason for the teams that moved up division and are not doing well at all since moving up. As the Flyers are on your list lets pick their current BB team. In preseason they played in Peewee B and beat every team by more then 8 goals that they played 5 games 59 goals for and only 4 against. Now in peewee BB they are 0-6 with -18 goal differential. so what would you propose for that team to play down and be in a situation of running clock every game or play up and lose every game by average of 3 goals. This is where the true problem arises for the bubble teams the in between divisions.
Now for my opinion the best way to handle all of this is to have these bubble teams play in the lower division for preseason and move up after proving that every game in the lower division is a 5 plus goal differential. Another option could be a forced play in game from SCAHA for the bottom teams ( teams getting beat with high differential in preseason) must play one of the top teams in the lower division and win in order to stay in the higher division.
Don't get me wrong I am with you about having to watch either your kid blow out team that doesn't belong or be on the other side of the beating. And in my many years of being involved in travel hockey my kid has been on both sides of the spectrum.
Every year you hear the same shit. Fact is in every league, in every sport, even in the pros there are young to be top teams, middle teams and lower teams. Really nothing you can do, unless you want to do a 40+ league season (too many), then split top and bottom half at mid season. It is what it is. Always going to be really good teams and poor teams.
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Case in Point, the Reign started the season at PWAA, dropped to A and currently at the bottom with no wins.
I can see your point however you were complaining about running clock and I wasnt talking about just beating the bottom teams by that many goals I was talking more about the whole division minus the top 3-4 in the division. This would make every game for the team that played in the lower division to be running clock so you cant win either way. I have an example of this for you. I looked at the preseason for the teams that moved up division and are not doing well at all since moving up. As the Flyers are on your list lets pick their current BB team. In preseason they played in Peewee B and beat every team by more then 8 goals that they played 5 games 59 goals for and only 4 against. Now in peewee BB they are 0-6 with -18 goal differential. so what would you propose for that team to play down and be in a situation of running clock every game or play up and lose every game by average of 3 goals. This is where the true problem arises for the bubble teams the in between divisions.
Now for my opinion the best way to handle all of this is to have these bubble teams play in the lower division for preseason and move up after proving that every game in the lower division is a 5 plus goal differential. Another option could be a forced play in game from SCAHA for the bottom teams ( teams getting beat with high differential in preseason) must play one of the top teams in the lower division and win in order to stay in the higher division.
Don't get me wrong I am with you about having to watch either your kid blow out team that doesn't belong or be on the other side of the beating. And in my many years of being involved in travel hockey my kid has been on both sides of the spectrum.
Every year you hear the same shit. Fact is in every league, in every sport, even in the pros there are young to be top teams, middle teams and lower teams. Really nothing you can do, unless you want to do a 40+ league season (too many), then split top and bottom half at mid season. It is what it is. Always going to be really good teams and poor teams.
Agree this is nothing new. Look at the standings every year going back there is almost always a big divide between top and bottom of the division\.
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The point being missed is simply this:
The divisions should be capped at 16 MAX and typically, you will get close games. Sure teams 12-16 might get beat up a bit, but should be able to pull out an upset here and there. The 16 teams is also perfect for the 20 game schedule (15 reg and 5 preseason).
If AA should be capped at 12, then trickle down will mean proper placement for all teams in all divisions at 16 teams. (Why AA at 12, well... that's a huge trickle down from the 4 AAA teams.)
In SCAHA alone there are 65 PW teams. This would breakdown into 4 AAA, 12 AA, 16 A, 16 BB, 17 B. It's too perfect. As for the Squirts, the same can be done, but it is not tiered, they need a 16 A, 16 BB, 18 B, as they have 50 teams. Instead, it is a clusterfk of randomness and magic flights of 9, 12, 13, and 16 team divisions... WTF?
Balancing out the divisions will create consistent and adequate competition.
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You’ve fixed it. All you have to do is give more power to a benevolent centralized organization that has a track record for making all of the right decisions on implementation.
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You’ve fixed it. All you have to do is give more power to a benevolent centralized organization that has a track record for making all of the right decisions on implementation.
So, not SCAHA, got it.
I have been proposing this balance for years. Allowing clubs to choose needs accountability. Stop guaranteeing the 20 games! Maybe, if you play in the wrong division, as in the 21 teams in PW A, at the 10 game mark (5 pre/5 reg) which is usually around End of November, IF YOUR TEAM IS NOT IN THE TOP 16, YOUR SEASON IS OVER! GOODBYE! ... and players are not allowed to join other teams as it is after the final roster date in December.
That'll show 'em.
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That would create an unbalanced schedule. Could hear it now....Team X played all the shitty teams. My like Gretz team played all the hard teams.....yadda....yadda.....yadda. There is no difference in price from A to BB ( at least not at our club)
Blame the parents that think their Lil Bender. Is the next great one.
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You’ve fixed it. All you have to do is give more power to a benevolent centralized organization that has a track record for making all of the right decisions on implementation.
So, not SCAHA, got it.
I have been proposing this balance for years. Allowing clubs to choose needs accountability. Stop guaranteeing the 20 games! Maybe, if you play in the wrong division, as in the 21 teams in PW A, at the 10 game mark (5 pre/5 reg) which is usually around End of November, IF YOUR TEAM IS NOT IN THE TOP 16, YOUR SEASON IS OVER! GOODBYE! ... and players are not allowed to join other teams as it is after the final roster date in December.
That'll show 'em.
Interesting concept, almost a little too statistically pure but who knows even a blind squirrel will find a nut. BTW how do you explain the traditionally smaller divisions of 14b and 12b of 10 and 8 team divisions where the bottom dwellers traditionally get blown out or would that just blow your statistically pure concept out of the water?
If you strongly believe in this plan propose it to your club president who can take it to the other club presidents who make up SCAHA and they can determine if it will work for them or not and if they do we can call the BOS66 plan.
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I stand by it. Happened this year... Flyers2 are 3-3 after playing the 3 worst teams and getting wins... include preseason they are 3-6-1 and OUT! Guess who would be in .... Ducks2 at 5-4, but having a rough start to reg season with a 4-0 pre.
BUT at this point, look at every division and every schedule. Preseason and first 5 reg season games are extremely accurate. If you are in the bottom and your season is cut, it's 99.9% because you were in the wrong division..... and shame on you.
Money and all those considerations means poo to me. These are kids. They play to have fun and the second you make it a money making machine you get... oh, yep, you get SCAHA and its clubs >:( :'( :-\
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OH SNAP! There were two Saturday games. Any results?!?! Sugarrush win by 10 again?
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Congrats to the Wave with a big win over Empire..
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You’ve fixed it. All you have to do is give more power to a benevolent centralized organization that has a track record for making all of the right decisions on implementation.
So, not SCAHA, got it.
I have been proposing this balance for years. Allowing clubs to choose needs accountability. Stop guaranteeing the 20 games! Maybe, if you play in the wrong division, as in the 21 teams in PW A, at the 10 game mark (5 pre/5 reg) which is usually around End of November, IF YOUR TEAM IS NOT IN THE TOP 16, YOUR SEASON IS OVER! GOODBYE! ... and players are not allowed to join other teams as it is after the final roster date in December.
That'll show 'em.
Stupidest thing i've ever read on this board... Good luck with your utopia at the A level, let alone any so cal youth hockey level. you claim to have been around for years, yet just figured out that every division every season has disparity top to bottom. hopefully your at the top and can suffer through the blowouts and your kid doesn't lose out on too much development in the process... ;) [size=78%] [/size]
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GOBBLE-GOBBLE-GOBBLE!!!
Turkey Tourney Time!
Good luck to the teams playing down in Tournys! Win that banner!!!
Huge shake up in power rankings after the break!
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So what's up with the "power rankings "
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So what's up with the "power rankings "
Busy Tourney week! Back at the grind sucks. Hope to have time tomorrow to post!
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Congratulations to Empire Hockey Club 12U A for bringing home the championship banner from Las Vegas!!!!
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Tourney season was all over the place. Top "A" teams were playing in "AA" tournaments, some were in LA, Ana, Vegas, SD... truly all over. Some won banners, others were complete flops.
I see some confusing results when researching this weeks rankings.
SDIA, Condors, JD4, and Bears played in "AA" in LA, but the "A" division, was filled with random teams. Classic LA douschebaggery... named the divisions "A" - "AA" - and "AA" Elite instead of "B" - "A" - "AA" ...total garbage.
Goldrush, ID, JD2, and Wave1 played in Ana 12A and GR made easy work winning a banner (was the Wave1 roster missing players - they were terrible after their big upset of EHC?)
EHC, Flyers2, and JD3 went to Vegas and EHC won that banner.
Lastly, the tourney in SD was filled with some of the worst PW teams in SCAHA. What a MESS!!! ...with that in mind, here is the
NEW POWER RANKINGS and MHR#
1. Goldrush 131
2. EHC 184
3. Condors 192
4. Wave1 221
5. Kings2 217
6. Guls2 405
7. SDIA 369
8. JD4 435
9. JD3 378
10. Bears 436
Bottom 5 coming soon!!!
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Tourney season was all over the place. Top "A" teams were playing in "AA" tournaments, some were in LA, Ana, Vegas, SD... truly all over. Some won banners, others were complete flops.
I see some confusing results when researching this weeks rankings.
SDIA, Condors, JD4, and Bears played in "AA" in LA, but the "A" division, was filled with random teams. Classic LA douschebaggery... named the divisions "A" - "AA" - and "AA" Elite instead of "B" - "A" - "AA" ...total garbage.
Goldrush, ID, JD2, and Wave1 played in Ana 12A and GR made easy work winning a banner (was the Wave1 roster missing players - they were terrible after their big upset of EHC?)
EHC, Flyers2, and JD3 went to Vegas and EHC won that banner.
Lastly, the tourney in SD was filled with some of the worst PW teams in SCAHA. What a MESS!!! ...with that in mind, here is the
NEW POWER RANKINGS and MHR#
1. Goldrush 131
2. EHC 184
3. Condors 192
4. Wave1 221
5. Kings2 217
6. Guls2 405
7. SDIA 369
8. JD4 435
9. JD3 378
10. Bears 436
Bottom 5 coming soon!!!
Wave1 won Banner in San Jose Silver Sticks. Wave 2 was in Anaheim
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I knew something was wrong on MHR. Wow. That is a huge blunder. They posted the results from Ana for Wave1 and not Wave2.
I looked at the rosters and thought that was the case. UGH! I once said MHR is a great system and mistakes are easily fixed. Hope they fix that soon.
I might need to redo the rankings next week FOR SURE!!!! Thanks for the clarification.
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I just looked it up...
Silver Sticks SJ was only an "A" tourney. It was filled with the worst/bottom half teams in NorCal. I give no street cred for that banner.
EHC beat Vaca Jets in Vegas 8-1. Jets are in 3rd NorCal. How bad are those teams? The best 3 NorCal "A" teams were not even there. Gives the Silver Sticks tourney a bad name IMO.
The only good NorCal "A" team is the Blackhawks and they DROPPED from AA. NorCal Hockey is still a joke.
I stand by this weeks POWER RANKINGS!
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Maybe you should do a strength of schedule analysis and records vs your power ranked teams.
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CAHA/SCAHA needs to tighten their divisions... PWAA is the new PWA. It is ruining it for the other divisions. (PWA,PWBB,PWB) is now a big MESS!!!
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Maybe you should do a strength of schedule analysis and records vs your power ranked teams.
:o Even tougher to do considering all the teams that drop/suck and players swapping teams. Rosters don't lock until December.
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CAHA/SCAHA needs to tighten their divisions... PWAA is the new PWA. It is ruining it for the other divisions. (PWA,PWBB,PWB) is now a big MESS!!!
There really should only be 8-12 "AA" teams. No doubt that would make for a much more competitive "A" division. The tournaments prove it. Moving forward, all the top "A" teams will sign up for "AA" tournaments. It's gonna get pretty interesting for Holiday, MLK, and Pres Day.
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CAHA/SCAHA needs to tighten their divisions... PWAA is the new PWA. It is ruining it for the other divisions. (PWA,PWBB,PWB) is now a big MESS!!!
Is there a PW BB? I didn't think there was this year. I read earlier someone said that the Vegas tourney was the best Thanksgiving one because of the Vacaville team (I think?) and Empiee. I asssume that means that JD3 is pretty good this year too? I thought they made the finals against Empire. I see they have a lot of A teams so I guess there are alot of good players there?
Generally I thought everyone in PW was playing A this year, I heard of a lot of B players last year being A this year. So far I like this hockey stuff!
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Getzlaf! Welcome to the rodeo of what has become of youth ice hockey. Hang on tight and watch your wallet get sucked dry! Where do you hail from? As far as bb goes, I’m aware it exists and that’s as far as it goes. Yes, the Vegas tourney. We were there and personally think the Ducks 3 team is panning out to be THE team to beat this season?
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You talking about the team that is presently in 11th place ?
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It was more an observation, someone stated that "Vegas was where the real teams went..." and I know JD3 (?) went there to the finals so by the original logic they should be really good. I wasn't saying "they were THE team to beat" I was inquiring based on the teams that went to Vegas. Regarding BB, I thought this year it was only A and B (I also heard the BB was not a real thing in the rest of the States).
Edit: what's Silver Stick? Is that the Anaheim tournament?
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Silver sticks is a national tournament. Various regions throughout the country in various divisiond and the winner from each region goes to play to the Silver Sticks championship, this year PW A is in Port Huron Michigan. Level of competition varies from year to year at regionals But competition at the finals is high.
This weeks late picks
JFLYERS. VS. JK2. JK2 BY 6
JD2 ICE DOGS JD2 BY 1
JR BENNYS VS JGULLS1 JGULLS BY 2.....MAKE THAT 3 BF STILL OWES ME $$
JFLYERS1. VS WAVE 2 WAVE2 BY 2
EPPERLY WAVE. VS JGULLS2 EPPWAVE BY 2
OC2. VS JD3. JD3 BY 3
JD4 EMPIRE EMPIRE BY 3 GAME OF THE WEEK
OC1 VS. DaBEARS. BEARS BY 2
GOLDRUSH. VS. JK1 SORRYJKs, not so good to be the King this weekend
SDIA VS JD1 JD1 BY 6
good luck everyone.
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I get it.
I think that Ice Dogs are going to beat JD2
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Ducks 3 goalie was amazing in the tournament final if it wasn't for him the score would have been 10-0. I am impartial my son plays for a different team unfortunately we didn't win a banner.
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Ducks 3 goalie was amazing in the tournament final if it wasn't for him the score would have been 10-0. I am impartial my son plays for a different team unfortunately we didn't win a banner.
Now I'm confused; RE Ducks 3 ONLY... One person said "strong teams went to Vegas" fact was Ducks3 made it to the Finals and lost by I believe 1 goal. I inquired about this, Trans asked (appropriately) "you mean the team in 11th?" now someone says the goalie is amazing? So...even at 11th can't be that bad, perhaps finding their feet?
Blades of Steel mentioned that Norcal Silver Stick had no "street cred" maybe? I don't know...But I looked at the past winners and it looks like it's been the Wave pretty much every year, maybe the norcal teams say "why bother?" and don't enter? Which I find interesting because it looks like San Jose is a stepping stone to Detroit.
Am I asking really dumb questions? I don't mean to ask obvious things but there seems to be an underlining understanding I'm missing.
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Ducks 3 goalie was amazing in the tournament final if it wasn't for him the score would have been 10-0. I am impartial my son plays for a different team unfortunately we didn't win a banner.
Now I'm confused; RE Ducks 3 ONLY... One person said "strong teams went to Vegas" fact was Ducks3 made it to the Finals and lost by I believe 1 goal. I inquired about this, Trans asked (appropriately) "you mean the team in 11th?" now someone says the goalie is amazing? So...even at 11th can't be that bad, perhaps finding their feet?
Blades of Steel mentioned that Norcal Silver Stick had no "street cred" maybe? I don't know...But I looked at the past winners and it looks like it's been the Wave pretty much every year, maybe the norcal teams say "why bother?" and don't enter? Which I find interesting because it looks like San Jose is a stepping stone to Detroit.
Am I asking really dumb questions? I don't mean to ask obvious things but there seems to be an underlining understanding I'm missing.
No stupid question here, just stupid statements . :-[
My understanding is that the SS finals are a great experience for the kids. Opening ceremony, pin trading etc. That's the things our kids will remember, not wins or loses. Also my understanding that the level of play in the finals is quite high. I believe a very good experience for the kids. Especially in the non tier level. Usually dont get that kind of experience until tier level, if at all
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From my understanding Empire controlled the game and if it wasn't for the Ducks 3 goalie playing lights out the score could have been drastically different.
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From my understanding Empire controlled the game and if it wasn't for the Ducks 3 g
Hoalie playing lights out the score could have been drastically different.
Hockey team cannot live on goalie alone. If he's an 07, I know of an 07 birth year team that will need a goalie next year ;)
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Definitely not for an entire season but they can keep a team in a game.
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Ducks 3 goalie was amazing in the tournament final if it wasn't for him the score would have been 10-0. I am impartial my son plays for a different team unfortunately we didn't win a banner.
Now I'm confused; RE Ducks 3 ONLY... One person said "strong teams went to Vegas" fact was Ducks3 made it to the Finals and lost by I believe 1 goal. I inquired about this, Trans asked (appropriately) "you mean the team in 11th?" now someone says the goalie is amazing? So...even at 11th can't be that bad, perhaps finding their feet?
Blades of Steel mentioned that Norcal Silver Stick had no "street cred" maybe? I don't know...But I looked at the past winners and it looks like it's been the Wave pretty much every year, maybe the norcal teams say "why bother?" and don't enter? Which I find interesting because it looks like San Jose is a stepping stone to Detroit.
Am I asking really dumb questions? I don't mean to ask obvious things but there seems to be an underlining understanding I'm missing.
You can see it in my Power Rankings. of the four Ducks teams in PWA, D4 is probably the best (dropped down from AA) and it is a toss-up between D2 and D3. I feel that D3 has gotten better over the season, but might have hit a ceiling.
The SDIA, D3, Gulls2 and the Bears are all fighting for seeds 7-8 as the top 6 are a lead-pipe lock.
As for Silver Sticks, in my earlier post, I was going to go as far as to say "I guarentee Wave1 won every game at that tourney 10-0." ... when MHR was fixed/updated, I was proven correct. It was an "A" only tournament meaning they only advance to a lame "A" silver sticks international in Jan... I guess Wave won't be headed to any "AA" tournaments that weekend. (I established that Holiday, MLK, and Pres Day is when you go to tournaments and play UP to get ready for your own playoff run in CAHA.) Granted, SS Finals will still be a great "A" tourney. Hope they represent well.
I would say EHC, D3, and D2 (all went to Vegas) would have beaten all 5 NorCal teams in the SS tourney that didnt make the final. The one Wave1 played is the (Cougars) is about the level of the Vaca Jets.
Wave beat Cougars 5-1 (in championship)
EHC beat Jets 8-1 (round robin)
Similar to me.
D3 have 4 guarentee wins and 7 total possible winnable games left. That's a lot. That's why I look at the schedule and do the power rankings. I have D3 in the SCAHA playoffs. FWIW
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Pee Wee A is so watered down almost anyone can snag the 6-7-8 playoff spot. So many double B teams in the A division its ridiculous. Tired of delusional parents and coaches. Oh we will get better playing better teams BS your team and coach stink have fun losing all year for nothing!
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I think thats primarily because of the big clubs. They want to churn out players for Tier and could care less how A looks as long as parents pay. Its telling that half the teams are undefeated, and the other half is win-less (more or less).
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Big clubs trying to fill requirements for Tier is a huge problem... LOOKING AT YOU REIGN, ICE DOGS!!!
I don't want to hear how good your AAA, or AA team is, it's a glorified "A" team and your actual "A" teams are suffering because of that greed for another letter.
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Pee Wee A is so watered down almost anyone can snag the 6-7-8 playoff spot. So many double B teams in the A division its ridiculous. Tired of delusional parents and coaches. Oh we will get better playing better teams BS your team and coach stink have fun losing all year for nothing!
Only lucky scheduling will change the 7th 8th spots. As I see it, D3 and SDIA are the locks. Too bad Bears and Guls2... Your schedule is too tough and you are OUT!!!
Otherwise, teams 11-21 are total garbage and should be BB.
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So no one else lurks here on a Friday night? Cool. :o :'(
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So school me on the Power Rating and MHR#? A couple of observations; What is going on at the Ducks in general?! I thought D2 would have been stronger, but I understand they have all sorts of problems. I see how D4 panned out. SDIA is interesting, they have the short bench right? Another team was complaining the kids tend to have a lot of soccer injuries, ordered from the coach. Lions and LD...never understood why they enter the season, seems like a lot of money for basically scrimmages. What's the point of their involvement in SCAHA if the games don't count?
Yeah, I got a lot to learn.
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I found out a couple of things, apparently the Jr Sharks team at Silver Stick was a AA team that dropped down. Regarding entering AA tournaments coming up for various A teams, isn't that more of the dilution of a level? Kind of like the BB teams in A right now?
Regarding Jr. Reign dropping down and being at the bottom, did they lose players when they switched to A? I think that's what happened with D4.
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D4 lost players but they are still doing well. Unfortunately Reign are not in the same boat. That club unfortunately has been known to throw teams in divisions that are not the best fit for their players.
In regards to A team playing up at AA for tournaments as long as said teams are at the top of A and winning games/tournaments why not let them play up. I know some top A teams have scrimmaged AA teams and have held their own.
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I found out a couple of things, apparently the Jr Sharks team at Silver Stick was a AA team that dropped down. Regarding entering AA tournaments coming up for various A teams, isn't that more of the dilution of a level? Kind of like the BB teams in A right now?
Regarding Jr. Reign dropping down and being at the bottom, did they lose players when they switched to A? I think that's what happened with D4.
The SS had 2 sharks teams. Both are "A" teams. That was NOT the Sharks "AA" team. FYI. MHR had it wrong.
https://stats.caha.timetoscore.com/display-schedule.php?stat_class=5&league=18&level=4&conf=0&season=24 (https://stats.caha.timetoscore.com/display-schedule.php?stat_class=5&league=18&level=4&conf=0&season=24)
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Also, in regards to the top "A" teams playing up into "AA" tournaments, it is popular and helpful in that it gets them away from the "A" tournament teams that are garbage and should be "BB" anyway. Waste of time.
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Also, in regards to the top "A" teams playing up into "AA" tournaments, it is popular and helpful in that it gets them away from the "A" tournament teams that are garbage and should be "BB" anyway. Waste of time.
FYI, for a team that's a non tier team, it is very difficult to get into a REAL AA/AAA tournament. Tier teams do not want to play non tier teams. For them, it's a "waste of time" as you put it. The tournaments that let non tier teams into their "tiered" tournament are usually tournaments that need teams......i.e. BF.....still owes me $$
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Okay what were the results for the weekend? Are discussions about Ref's allowed? Cuz I got a few thoughts >:(
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Okay what were the results for the weekend? Are discussions about Ref's allowed? Cuz I got a few thoughts >:(
SCAHA ref's are the best in the country. SCAHA has an amazing accountability system in place to monitor and train its refs. I cannot imagine what you possibly could be interested in discussing about refs. Even at the "A" level, we get some of the top veterans and once in a while, a ref and TWO linesman!!!
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Also, in regards to the top "A" teams playing up into "AA" tournaments, it is popular and helpful in that it gets them away from the "A" tournament teams that are garbage and should be "BB" anyway. Waste of time.
FYI, for a team that's a non tier team, it is very difficult to get into a REAL AA/AAA tournament. Tier teams do not want to play non tier teams. For them, it's a "waste of time" as you put it. The tournaments that let non tier teams into their "tiered" tournament are usually tournaments that need teams......i.e. BF.....still owes me $$
Well, I disagree. Tier lines are blurred all the time during tournaments. CAHA weekends are separate altogether. Tournament directors who accept teams look at their current level as well as performance. They approve or deny team requests based on many other factors besides $$$. The concept and labeling of "REAL" tier tournaments are few and far between (Silver Sticks, Edina Invitational, for example). Most AAA/Elite summer tournaments are "all-star" teams put together anyway. Anyone can play (Carmen Starr, CHITOWN Shuffle, etc.) Typically, its the tournament that decides to put on the levels (A/B, AA, etc.) Put it this way, if an "A" team that was sub .500 in its league wanted to play in a AA tournament in PHX on Pres. Day, they would be told NO and put in "A" by the tourney director. Top teams play up, and garbage "TIER" 2 teams play down into "A" tourneys all the time.
I am speaking from having gone to dozens of tournaments all over the country with different clubs. I'm not a "know-it-all," just sharing my my experiences/observations.
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Also, in regards to the top "A" teams playing up into "AA" tournaments, it is popular and helpful in that it gets them away from the "A" tournament teams that are garbage and should be "BB" anyway. Waste of time.
FYI, for a team that's a non tier team, it is very difficult to get into a REAL AA/AAA tournament. Tier teams do not want to play non tier teams. For them, it's a "waste of time" as you put it. The tournaments that let non tier teams into their "tiered" tournament are usually tournaments that need teams......i.e. BF.....still owes me $$
Well, I disagree. Tier lines are blurred all the time during tournaments. CAHA weekends are separate altogether. Tournament directors who accept teams look at their current level as well as performance. They approve or deny team requests based on many other factors besides $$$. The concept and labeling of "REAL" tier tournaments are few and far between (Silver Sticks, Edina Invitational, for example). Most AAA/Elite summer tournaments are "all-star" teams put together anyway. Anyone can play (Carmen Starr, CHITOWN Shuffle, etc.) Typically, its the tournament that decides to put on the levels (A/B, AA, etc.) Put it this way, if an "A" team that was sub .500 in its league wanted to play in a AA tournament in PHX on Pres. Day, they would be told NO and put in "A" by the tourney director. Top teams play up, and garbage "TIER" 2 teams play down into "A" tourneys all the time.
I am speaking from having gone to dozens of tournaments all over the country with different clubs.
It's ok to disagree, I'm not a democrat. But the only way a credible tier tournament let's in a non tier team is if they need teams....or greedy. Seen it.
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......now, I have seen a fair amount of top AA teams play AAA tournaments. Just A to AA, not so much.
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$$$ and greedy hockey clubs running tournaments? Lies. All lies. USA Hockey Code of Ethics won't stand for it.
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Any guesses where the top teams are heading for Xmas, MLK, and Prez day? Is everyone going to different AA tournaments? or going to the same A tournament to face each other? I'd like to see the Wave play GR, I"m guessing thats going to be a good game. It might not be the normal opinion but I think the Wave might have the edge, based off both of their schedules. Although I think GR has always been strong?
RE: Jr. Sharks A1...They were dropped down from AA like Ducks 4, Gulls 2, and Reign after Jamboree. They were NOT a AA team entered as an A. I don't know if that is true but it is what I was told by someone who had previously played against them this year.
I am curious to see who enters our local tournaments for Xmas.
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POWER RANKINGS!!!
1. Gold Rush
2. Condoors
3. Wave1
4. EHC
5. Kings2
6. Gulls2
7. JD4
8. SDIA
9. JD3
10. JD1
OUT: Bears
HOT TAKE: JD3 catches and supplants SDIA for a playoff spot by seasons end. Gulls2 only have 2-3 wins left on the schedule... will that be enough?!?!!
It is really a 4 team battle for the last 2 spots: JD1, JD3, SDIA, Gulls 2
8 wins will not get you a place at the table... 9 wins or at least 19 points in the standings gets you a spot. (Last year it was 9 and 20)
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Also, I gave up on MHR until all the holiday tournament mistakes are fixed.
YES, after CAHA moronic jamboree weekend, these teams currently in "A" were dropped from "AA" - therefore are never to be considered "AA" ever again. (EVEN FOR THE SILVER STICKS TOURNEY)
NorCal:
Sharks1A *Played at SS
Blackhawks
SoCal:
Condors
Ducks4
Gulls2
Reign
I believe that's the list... and in case you are wondering?...
The Vaca Jets Team that went 1-3 in Vegas and lost to EHC 8-1 and JD1 5-2 just BEAT Sharks1A by a score of 6-3. Like I said, without Blackhawks there, that Silver Sticks in SJ was complete garbage. Too easy for Wave1.
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Oh I'm not disagreeing with you, I just wanted clarification on what happened at SS. I was also curious what the bet for Xmas tourneys will be, and why is Gold Rush's schedule So so EASY!? I think that warps the rankings.
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Gulls2 is a really big/skilled with good goaltending. Surprised they are where they are
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Oh I'm not disagreeing with you, I just wanted clarification on what happened at SS. I was also curious what the bet for Xmas tourneys will be, and why is Gold Rush's schedule So so EASY!? I think that warps the rankings.
XMas tourneys are good travel out-of-state tourneys. In SoCal, it's all smoke and mirrors. Valencia used to have one (cancelled this year) Tinseltown always whorez out a tourney, but not for xmas, Ana is average, and SD pretends to have an "outdoor" tournament, but we all really know where it's played....
"AA" has an amazingly timed-scheduled CAHA weekend right out of the XMas break, so it makes XMas tourneys redundant and opens doors for BURNOUT in athletes and families.
MLK is the first good "AA" tourney play-up weekend.
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Gulls2 is a really big/skilled with good goaltending. Surprised they are where they are
I really wanna know what the mod didnt like.... we are all adults here.
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Gulls2 is a really big/skilled with good goaltending. Surprised they are where they are
I really wanna know what the mod didnt like.... we are all adults here.
I think there was a reference to a specific player on a team. That's a no-no.
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Yep, keep the kids out of it. No matter the situation, it is the parents that make the decisions. Kids are just kids.... even if they are knuckleheads.
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Didnt say anything bad or use names. Very good player. But my bad, I guess.
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What if I talk about my own kid? Can I call my own kid a moron or a knucklehead? ;D
As for GR and their schedule, MHR has them at 18-0-1 aka undefeated, but digging deeply uncovers a loss.
They went to the Ana Ice Early Bird Tourney and lost in the semi to the Paramount tourney team that goes to every Ana tourney (Quakes). Quakes lost to EHC in the final. :o 18-1-1...
As for strength of schedule WOW! I had no idea, GR has played ZERO.... ZERO current PWA predicted playoff teams (ONLY possible playoff team is JD3 back in Oct. and beat em 7-3 which is a good win). Otherwise (played a "AA" team twice at Ana Thx Tourney - a "AA" team that played IDs twice and BARELY beat em. Sooooooo a non-"A" SCAHA playoff team also...)
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and wave 1 Beat the GR in exhibition game. 4 to 1 (I believe was final score) hard to tell from video
https://youtu.be/jy8vsRnvmw8 (https://youtu.be/jy8vsRnvmw8)
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What if I talk about my own kid? Can I call my own kid a moron or a knucklehead? ;D
As for GR and their schedule, MHR has them at 18-0-1 aka undefeated, but digging deeply uncovers a loss.
They went to the Ana Ice Early Bird Tourney and lost in the semi to the Paramount tourney team that goes to every Ana tourney (Quakes). Quakes lost to EHC in the final. :o 18-1-1...
As for strength of schedule WOW! I had no idea, GR has played ZERO.... ZERO current PWA predicted playoff teams (ONLY possible playoff team is JD3 back in Oct. and beat em 7-3 which is a good win). Otherwise (played a "AA" team twice at Ana Thx Tourney - a "AA" team that played IDs twice and BARELY beat em. Sooooooo a non-"A" SCAHA playoff team also...)
Jmo but at this age its more about the match ups. Just becsuse team A beat team B should beat team C becsuse....etc doesnt mean shit anymore. Sone teams, for whatever season natchup well with certain teams snd struggle whith others that they shouldnt strughls with. As a cocky JK coach once said, "Its all about the matchups."
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What if I talk about my own kid? Can I call my own kid a moron or a knucklehead? ;D
As for GR and their schedule, MHR has them at 18-0-1 aka undefeated, but digging deeply uncovers a loss.
They went to the Ana Ice Early Bird Tourney and lost in the semi to the Paramount tourney team that goes to every Ana tourney (Quakes). Quakes lost to EHC in the final. :o 18-1-1...
As for strength of schedule WOW! I had no idea, GR has played ZERO.... ZERO current PWA predicted playoff teams (ONLY possible playoff team is JD3 back in Oct. and beat em 7-3 which is a good win). Otherwise (played a "AA" team twice at Ana Thx Tourney - a "AA" team that played IDs twice and BARELY beat em. Sooooooo a non-"A" SCAHA playoff team also...)
Jmo but at this age its more about the match ups. Just becsuse team A beat team B should beat team C becsuse....etc doesnt mean shit anymore. Sone teams, for whatever season natchup well with certain teams snd struggle whith others that they shouldnt strughls with. As a cocky JK coach once said, "Its all about the matchups."
Holy shit, I agree with trans!
Coaching can also figure into this significantly. There are coaches who will roll lines, and other coaches who will match or shorten the bench in tight games or just to keep scores from getting out of hand. Sometimes it can come down to an assistant coach running the defense, who is good at looking at what the other team is doing, and will match the team's best D against the other team's top O.
Some teams just play a style that negates the things that make another team successful most of the time. Some coaches are good on the bench, and will make some in game changes based on what they are seeing. In general there are a lot of parents who don't really know the game of hockey too well, and base all their analysis on goals and wins and losses and scores. There are close games where a team loses by four goals and beatdowns where a team gets a tie.
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What if I talk about my own kid? Can I call my own kid a moron or a knucklehead? ;D
As for GR and their schedule, MHR has them at 18-0-1 aka undefeated, but digging deeply uncovers a loss.
They went to the Ana Ice Early Bird Tourney and lost in the semi to the Paramount tourney team that goes to every Ana tourney (Quakes). Quakes lost to EHC in the final. :o 18-1-1...
As for strength of schedule WOW! I had no idea, GR has played ZERO.... ZERO current PWA predicted playoff teams (ONLY possible playoff team is JD3 back in Oct. and beat em 7-3 which is a good win). Otherwise (played a "AA" team twice at Ana Thx Tourney - a "AA" team that played IDs twice and BARELY beat em. Sooooooo a non-"A" SCAHA playoff team also...)
Jmo but at this age its more about the match ups. Just becsuse team A beat team B should beat team C becsuse....etc doesnt mean shit anymore. Sone teams, for whatever season natchup well with certain teams snd struggle whith others that they shouldnt strughls with. As a cocky JK coach once said, "Its all about the matchups."
I don't think there is ever a sport that can easily dictate who can beat whom based on matchups especially when talking about top teams. So, I agree. I was just putting out all the "data."
As cor coaching, yep, coaching matters in games. It does. Some teams just roll lines and make everyone happy (pay-to-play) and other teams practice special teams and have PP units and specialists (best-players-play). Typical in "A" and lower levels to have coaches just roll lines. Matchups for teams vs teams matters for style of play, but also player matchups matter in-game. There are a few players that can't be stopped unless you focus on stopping them.
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and wave 1 Beat the GR in exhibition game. 4 to 1 (I believe was final score) hard to tell from video
https://youtu.be/jy8vsRnvmw8 (https://youtu.be/jy8vsRnvmw8)
How the hell did you find that!!! This is great look into these two teams, mucho gracias! Gonna share with some of the other teams (I know one team that is going to love this for an upcoming game!) so they can find the weaknesses, or two...at the very lease a look at the lines.
So looking at the schedules GR plays no one, and Empire, Wave and Condors all face each other. So no one faces GR until playoffs? Curious on Condors versus Empire this weekend.
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This weeks picks
JR CONDORS VA GRUSH CONDORS BY 1
JD1. JD4 JD4 BY 5
JD3. VS JR FLYERS1 JD3 BY 4
JRREIGN VS. WAVE2. WAVE2 BY 3
SDIA. VS. JRGULLS1. SDIA BY 5
EMPIRE. JK1 EMPIRE BY 5
ICE DOGS VS OC2 DOGS BY 3
OC1. VS JGULLS2. GULLS BY 6
Jk2 Vs. JD2 JKS BY 4
EPPERLYWAVE. VS JRFLYERS2. EPPWAVE BY 6
GOOD LUCK EVERYONE !!
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and wave 1 Beat the GR in exhibition game. 4 to 1 (I believe was final score) hard to tell from video
https://youtu.be/jy8vsRnvmw8 (https://youtu.be/jy8vsRnvmw8)
How the hell did you find that!!! This is great look into these two teams, mucho gracias! Gonna share with some of the other teams (I know one team that is going to love this for an upcoming game!) so they can find the weaknesses, or two...at the very lease a look at the lines.
So looking at the schedules GR plays no one, and Empire, Wave and Condors all face each other. So no one faces GR until playoffs? Curious on Condors versus Empire this weekend.
Know kids on both teams. Even though schedules are skewed I believe these to be the top two teams for A. They play better as a team then Empire and Condors. I haven't seen JD4 yet.
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Now the next two weekends are game-free. There should have been games this weekend coming up.
LAME! THANKS, SCAHA.
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No cherps from GR/Condors ?
SOC peeps must of lost their shit that they thought didnt stink.
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No cherps from GR/Condors ?
SOC peeps must of lost their shit that they thought didnt stink.
No idea what happened in that game, you? NE1?
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and wave 1 Beat the GR in exhibition game. 4 to 1 (I believe was final score) hard to tell from video
https://youtu.be/jy8vsRnvmw8 (https://youtu.be/jy8vsRnvmw8)
How the hell did you find that!!! This is great look into these two teams, mucho gracias! Gonna share with some of the other teams (I know one team that is going to love this for an upcoming game!) so they can find the weaknesses, or two...at the very lease a look at the lines.
So looking at the schedules GR plays no one, and Empire, Wave and Condors all face each other. So no one faces GR until playoffs? Curious on Condors versus Empire this weekend.
Know kids on both teams. Even though schedules are skewed I believe these to be the top two teams for A. They play better as a team then Empire and Condors. I haven't seen JD4 yet.
YIKES! Is that a type-o or did one of your top 2 teams, because they play better as a team, get beat 8-1 :o by the only playoff team on their schedule? (Just jabbin ya, sometimes we all have to eat crow now and again.) :P ... gotta be a type-o...
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After watching all three teams play empire, condors and the wave.
This is hands down the waves season to win everything they were by far the best team of the group. I didnt really see any weakness in the game I watched.
Similar to last years Wave team in Peewee A.
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After watching all three teams play empire, condors and the wave.
This is hands down the waves season to win everything they were by far the best team of the group. I didnt really see any weakness in the game I watched.
Similar to last years Wave team in Peewee A.
TONS of hockey still left to play. Handful of teams can win it IMO
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I had no idea they had hockey in Artesia ;)
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After watching all three teams play empire, condors and the wave.
This is hands down the waves season to win everything they were by far the best team of the group. I didnt really see any weakness in the game I watched.
Similar to last years Wave team in Peewee A.
TONS of hockey still left to play. Handful of teams can win it IMO
very true they are 11 and 12 year olds and we all know how that can go.
And to go even further with it I have seen all but 2 of the top 11 teams play. And hands down the Wave 1 team is the best of them all. ( I am non- Wave affiliated ) so no bias here.
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After watching all three teams play empire, condors and the wave.
This is hands down the waves season to win everything they were by far the best team of the group. I didnt really see any weakness in the game I watched.
Similar to last years Wave team in Peewee A.
TONS of hockey still left to play. Handful of teams can win it IMO
very true they are 11 and 12 year olds and we all know how that can go.
And to go even further with it I have seen all but 2 of the top 11 teams play. And hands down the Wave 1 team is the best of them all. ( I am non- Wave affiliated ) so no bias here.
Let's pump the breaks on all the hyperbole. "Hands down"? The wave team that lost to Empire, tied SDIA, and had close calls against Gulls2 and Kings 2 recently is in no way a clear cut favorite. To quote the great Taylor Swift, you need to calm down.
Check back and enjoy this weeks POWER RANKINGS!!!
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Agree with BO, think there are no "hands down" favorite. Think the the JK is the dark horse. Good, skilled team with exceptional goal keeping. If they get a growth spurt, look out !.
But then again if my uncle had tits, he'd be my aunt.
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Agree with BO, think there are no "hands down" favorite. Think the the JK is the dark horse. Good, skilled team with exceptional goal keeping. If they get a growth spurt, look out !.
But then again if my uncle had tits, he'd be my aunt.
I (we all, probably) look at scores every day. There are so many questionable trends and performances. Each has an explanation. Basically, the biggest excuse is that they are only 12 year-olds and I agree.
The only indication that I truly value as to a team's shot at a title is their tournament history throughout the season. How many do they play, win, level played, etc. Why? Because that is the SCAHA and CAHA playoff format. Single week game one-offs are in no way equal to the grind of 4-6 games in three days. Knowing this design, there are a few teams that can handle that load and others that will fizzle out.
So far, Wave, Empire, have had tourney championships, Condors played a CAHA weekend and played "up" kind-of in a turkey tourney at KHS (tinsel town), Goldrush played in a pretty easy Ana turkey tourney and won, that Kings2 team goes to all the tournaments-plays well-never wins it all, and so on and so forth...
If you are asking now, the final four weekend in SCAHA will be Wave, Empire, Condors, Kings2/GR ... So thats 5 teams, so what.
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WEEK 10 POWER RANKINGS!!!
1. Wave
2. Condors
3. EHC
4. Kings2
5. Goldrush
6. JD4
7. SDIA
8. JD3
9. Gulls2
10. Bears
Gulls 2 stock CRASHING!!! New #1, GR falls from grace, BEARS back... so youre sayin there a chance?!?!?(NO!) and more!!!
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Time to start lookin at schedules!!!
HUGE! Big games remaining!!! The games that tell us who is for real!
Wave1: vs JD4, Condors
Condors: vs Kings2, Wave1, EHC
EHC: vs Condors
Kings2: vs GR, Condors
Goldrush: vs Kings2, JD4, SDIA
JD4: vs Wave1, GR, SDIA
Team with most games that could go either way (4): SDIA: vs JD2, JD4, GR, JD3
Team with a good schedule that could squeak them in a playoff spot: JD3: vs Flyers2, Wave2, Gulls2, JD1, Bears, SDIA
Teams that miss out of the playoffs, but think they still have a chance:
Bears: vs GR, EHC, JD4, JD3
Gulls2: vs EHC, JD3, GR
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After watching all three teams play empire, condors and the wave.
This is hands down the waves season to win everything they were by far the best team of the group. I didnt really see any weakness in the game I watched.
Similar to last years Wave team in Peewee A.
TONS of hockey still left to play. Handful of teams can win it IMO
very true they are 11 and 12 year olds and we all know how that can go.
And to go even further with it I have seen all but 2 of the top 11 teams play. And hands down the Wave 1 team is the best of them all. ( I am non- Wave affiliated ) so no bias here.
Let's pump the breaks on all the hyperbole. "Hands down"? The wave team that lost to Empire, tied SDIA, and had close calls against Gulls2 and Kings 2 recently is in no way a clear cut favorite. To quote the great Taylor Swift, you need to calm down.
Check back and enjoy this weeks POWER RANKINGS!!!
Empire beat Wave? I see they have 0 losses, has SCAHA not updated? Don't know about the Gulls but Kings are tiny and pull a ton of penalties from the opposing team, kind of like another little team that like to use the refs to try and get an edge. Just an observation.
Could you briefly explain this power ranking? Sorry to drum on about it.
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Power Rankings are the eye-test, strength of schedule, tourney history, etc. Fun commentary like they do on ESPN and other sites.
MHR lists all games posted (tourney, preseason, season, etc.) Wave1 is 18-3-1. Losses to Kings2, EHC, DucksAAA08.
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Power Rankings are the eye-test, strength of schedule, tourney history, etc. Fun commentary like they do on ESPN and other sites.
MHR lists all games posted (tourney, preseason, season, etc.) Wave1 is 18-3-1. Losses to Kings2, EHC, DucksAAA08.
Those 2 losses to kings 2 and ehc were in preseason and memorial day tournament before they added a few players to roster. Given they did tie sdia and have a squeeker with Gulls 2 at home after the roster addition. And last loss was to AAA minor team.
The goldrush team which is ranked higher in MHR hasnt played anyone that is any good Ducks 2 and Ducks 3 are best two teams they have played and only played them once. This is also proven by the smackdown that was laid on the Rush by the Condors last weekend.
This is where MHR is completely Wrong having high goal differential against teams that just simply aren't as skilled or well coached is not better then winning close games against tough competition.
The wave have had to play empire twice kings 2 twice both of which are much tougher teams then ducks 2 and ducks 3.
This is IMHO where the eye test of seeing a majority of these teams play is better than any MHR ranking will be! The only ones I haven't seen yet are SDIA and Gulls teams in the Entire Peewee A division.
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Power Rankings are the eye-test, strength of schedule, tourney history, etc. Fun commentary like they do on ESPN and other sites.
MHR lists all games posted (tourney, preseason, season, etc.) Wave1 is 18-3-1. Losses to Kings2, EHC, DucksAAA08.
Those 2 losses to kings 2 and ehc were in preseason and memorial day tournament before they added a few players to roster. Given they did tie sdia and have a squeeker with Gulls 2 at home after the roster addition. And last loss was to AAA minor team.
The goldrush team which is ranked higher in MHR hasnt played anyone that is any good Ducks 2 and Ducks 3 are best two teams they have played and only played them once. This is also proven by the smackdown that was laid on the Rush by the Condors last weekend.
This is where MHR is completely Wrong having high goal differential against teams that just simply aren't as skilled or well coached is not better then winning close games against tough competition.
The wave have had to play empire twice kings 2 twice both of which are much tougher teams then ducks 2 and ducks 3.
This is IMHO where the eye test of seeing a majority of these teams play is better than any MHR ranking will be! The only ones I haven't seen yet are SDIA and Gulls teams in the Entire Peewee A division.
Technically, GR has 2 losses now. vs Paramount Quakes, Condors
Empire has 3 losses vs OCHC AA, Wave1, and KingsAAA08 - very similar losses like the Wave.
SDIA are pure over-achievers. Eye-test tells me they are not the real deal.
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Power Rankings are the eye-test, strength of schedule, tourney history, etc. Fun commentary like they do on ESPN and other sites.
MHR lists all games posted (tourney, preseason, season, etc.) Wave1 is 18-3-1. Losses to Kings2, EHC, DucksAAA08.
Those 2 losses to kings 2 and ehc were in preseason and memorial day tournament before they added a few players to roster. Given they did tie sdia and have a squeeker with Gulls 2 at home after the roster addition. And last loss was to AAA minor team.
The goldrush team which is ranked higher in MHR hasnt played anyone that is any good Ducks 2 and Ducks 3 are best two teams they have played and only played them once. This is also proven by the smackdown that was laid on the Rush by the Condors last weekend.
This is where MHR is completely Wrong having high goal differential against teams that just simply aren't as skilled or well coached is not better then winning close games against tough competition.
The wave have had to play empire twice kings 2 twice both of which are much tougher teams then ducks 2 and ducks 3.
This is IMHO where the eye test of seeing a majority of these teams play is better than any MHR ranking will be! The only ones I haven't seen yet are SDIA and Gulls teams in the Entire Peewee A division.
I had no idea about the MHR, just the SCAHA site and I have to agree regarding the two pre season losses. I'm sure you all look at it differently but I just look at pre season as an extra month of hockey. Teams do some weird things at that time. Why did the wave play a Ducks AAA team? wasn't it a given that would be a loss? a double A I think can go either way with most A teams depending on the roster, weekend, and coach.
I'd be happy with any of the top 4 teams minus one (I don't like one of the clubs ethics or coach). Although, I kind of think Gold Rush kind of gets by easy with their ranking and season. Who knows maybe they won't perform well this year because they are dumbing down their playing with weak teams. Semi finals will either be a rewarding "told ya" or a slap of reality.
and thanks for helping me put to sleep the whole power ranking questions...one day I'll even understand that LR thing under my name.
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Not sure how you can say a team is "dumbing down their play" by playing weak teams when no team has any control over their schedule. The top 8 teams at the end of this season will have gotten there by playing mostly weak teams.
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Not sure how you can say a team is "dumbing down their play" by playing weak teams when no team has any control over their schedule. The top 8 teams at the end of this season will have gotten there by playing mostly weak teams.
Simply meaning since who they are playing isn't that hard, they don't play at their best. No insult implied.
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Hope everyone had good and safe holidays
This weeks picks
Grush. Vs JK2. JKsBY 2
CO-GAME OF THE WEEK
SDIA. VS. JD2 SDIA BY 4
JGULLS2 VS. EMPIRE EMPIRE BY 2
BEARS VS. GRUSH RUSH BY 5
OC2. JREIGN JR BY 2
JD3. VS JFLYERS JD BY 3
EPPERLY WAVE. JD4 EP WAVE BY 3
WAVE2 VS JGULLS1 WAVE BY 2
JCONDORS VS JK2. UGLY BIRDS BY 2
CO-GAME OF THE WEEK
GOOD LUCK EVERYONE
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Very interested in seeing who comes out rusty vs who played in holiday tourneys.
Also, GR v JK2 is for sure a big one to tell us contenders v pretenders. Same for Condors v JK2.
Looks like it's put up or shut up weekend for a few teams, especially the Kings2!!!
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How'd the first games of 2020 go?
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Since B.O.(S) is not chirping, I would guess his horse didnt have a good weekend. ;)
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Since B.O.(S) is not chirping, I would guess his horse didnt have a good weekend. ;)
Nah, just waiting for all the scores to come in. Super exciting weekend of contenders and pretenders! Also, a few MLK schedules are already out. A LOT going on to digest and RANK!!!
I see JK2 lost to GR 5-1, but haven't seen any others yet. I had about 47 tabs open last night on MHR seeing if anyone was posting.
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There is literally only one other game posted so far: Empire over Gulls2 9-0.
...and as predicted in my Dec. 18 post, Gulls 2 (and Bears) miss playoffs, but think they still have a chance. A 9-0 loss crushes those dreams.....
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JK2 VS Ugly Birds score
...anyone......
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JK2 VS Ugly Birds score
...anyone......
If I had to guess, probably Condors 6-2 win...
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Condors vs JK2 4-2
Wave1 vs JD4 4-0
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JK2 was a little rusty after the long layoff. Condors looked a little rusty too, not sure if they took any time off. Goldbrickers played like they practiced every day including Christmas and New Years.
Since B.O.(S) is not chirping, I would guess his horse didnt have a good weekend. ;)
This bird quit chirping a long time ago but since you mentioned it my horse is the 5-4 favorite to win the 2050 TSC Bronze AA cup like his old man did back in '11 and '12
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Lol !!
Bet theres a different perspective in 2020.
You have a few years inder your belt now.
Really like the JKs but you cant fight physics.
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There must be some lingo or jargon going over my head... either that or you think I like the Kings. I fkn hate the Kings. Hate all their tournaments too. Smallest baby banner my kids ever won. Great job cutting costs on the banner size.
Tinsel Town... More like Skimp-sel Town.
Ducks > Kings
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There must be some lingo or jargon going over my head... either that or you think I like the Kings. I fkn hate the Kings. Hate all their tournaments too. Smallest baby banner my kids ever won. Great job cutting costs on the banner size.
Tinsel Town... More like Skimp-sel Town.
Ducks > Kings
Sometimes you love the ones you hate.
Come on, come out of the closet.
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There must be some lingo or jargon going over my head... either that or you think I like the Kings. I fkn hate the Kings. Hate all their tournaments too. Smallest baby banner my kids ever won. Great job cutting costs on the banner size.
Tinsel Town... More like Skimp-sel Town.
Ducks > Kings
Sometimes you love the ones you hate.
Come on, come out of the closet.
BladesofSteel99 ??? Never!
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Power... POWer... POWER RANKINGS, HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Rank (big game remaining)
1. Wave (vs Condors)
2. Condors (vs Wave1, Empire)
3. Empire (vs Condors)
4. Goldrush (vs JD4, SDIA) ----- The GR vs SDIA game could be HUGE in the standings...
5. SDIA (vs JD4, GR, JD3) ----- SLIM chance to finish in the top 3, but doubtful...
6. Kings2 (all automatic wins remaining)
7. Ducks3 (vs Gulls2, SDIA)
8. Ducks4 (vs GR, SDIA)
9. Gulls 2 ...... OUT
10. Bears .......OUT
Well, it seems clear there is a top 4 and the rest all wasting their time. Not much left to the imagination.
Still only a real chance for (3) of the teams to still finish with the 1st seed (Wave1, Condors, Goldrush) EHC would lose the head-to-head even to a 1 loss Wave1. SDIA is a wayyyy outside dark horse (and a pretender).
How you ask?
Wave win out, they are #1 seed. A loss to the Condors (or a tie) causes a huge mess.
Goldrush walks away as #1 seed. If Wave1, EHC, Condors all beat each other (Condors have to beat Wave1, EHC has to beat Condors).
Condors win out they are #1 seed. At this point, it comes down to goal differential with GR.
Enjoy!
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This weeks picks
SDIA VS. ICE DODS. SDIA BY 5
JD4 VS. GOLDRUSH. RUSH BY 3
JD2 VS EPPERLYWAVE EPPWAVE BY 5
JREIGN BEARS DABEARS BY 2
JD1. VS JFLYERS2 JFLY BY 2
OC1 VS JK1 OC1 BY 1
WAVE 2. VS JD3. JD3 BY 1
OC2 VS JR CONDORD. UGLY BIRDS BY 7
JK2. VS JRGULLS1. JK2 BY 5
GOOD LUCK EVERYONE !!
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No EHC?
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No EHC?
I'll help you... EHC v Flyers1 Empire by 10
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:o
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Gulls1 tied Kings2.... please tell me that is a mistake. That's like the Titans beating the Ravens :o
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The death of PW hockey predictions, you ask? TIE SCORES! Go kiss ur friggin sister.
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The death of PW hockey predictions, you ask? TIE SCORES! Go kiss ur friggin sister.
Are u on meds ?
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The death of PW hockey predictions, you ask? TIE SCORES! Go kiss ur friggin sister.
Are u on meds ?
So, I am ridiculed for elevated language and "big words," yet when I go base, it's short bus mizundastood.
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The death of PW hockey predictions, you ask? TIE SCORES! Go kiss ur friggin sister.
Are u on meds ?
So, I am ridiculed for elevated language and "big words," yet when I go base, it's short bus mizundastood.
Yes
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This weeks picks
Bears. Vs JK1. DaBEARS BY 3
SDIA. VS JD4. SDIA BY 1
EMPIRE. JD1 EMPIRE BY 3
JFLYERS. VS OC2. FLYERS BY 1
JCONDORS. VS. EPPERLYWAVE PICK
JK2. VS OC1 JKs BY 5
JGULLS. VS. JD2 GULLS BY 2
GOLDRUSH VS. WAVE 2. RUSH BY 4
ICEDOGS. VS JREIGN. DOGS BY 4 (BF STILL OWES ME $$)
good luck everyone
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Would like some opinions. Going from PWA to bantams, what would be the consensus....go Bantam A or AA
I want to hear from people that have already done it. Not a PW parent that thinks his Lil Gretzky is bound for Bantam AA because he did ok in non tiered PW
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Would like some opinions. Going from PWA to bantams, what would be the consensus....go Bantam A or AA
I want to hear from people that have already done it. Not a PW parent that thinks his Lil Gretzky is bound for Bantam AA because he did ok in non tiered PW
Not knowing the kids skill level, I would think the bigger question would be how he handles contact--as with Bantams comes increased checking/physical play. If he is one who shies away from contact naturally, or he is much smaller than others his age, I would tend to let him adjust in a more comfortable place. Pressure to play up combined with anxiousness about checking can be a big issue--been there...seen that.
Now, obviously if he is really only a A player, you need to know and understand that and make the right choice. Putting a kid up a level when he is not ready, can have the same effect. But you will need to make that determination between you, your kid and his coaches and those on the AA team he would try out for. There is a wide range of answers here--does your A player need to be a STUD in A in order to consider moving to AA--absolutely not. But he at least needs to be a solid A player who responds well to a challenge. JMHO
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Is your kid a strong skater? Does he have speed? Does he pass well? Does he stay in position? Does he understand the difference in "I or team?" If he is I player? Have him play A so he can continue to be a little Gretzky!
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Looking more as a group-team than individial
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Looking more as a group-team than individial
That would make the decision even harder to make--especially with little to no information.
But the same decision points would still apply A) Do the kids feel comfortable with higher physicality? B) are the kids average to strong A players at best?
Obviously much harder to give generic answer since you would need to make those calls for EACH kid on the team, then aggregate into a team decision. LOTS of possibilities that would make AA a good option and just as many making it a bad option. Too many variables to give a decent answer.
Ideally, this decision would be best/most accurately made on a player by player basis.
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are this weekends scores correct? the ones that have been posted
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are this weekends scores correct? the ones that have been posted
Which ones surprised you ?
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Looking more as a group-team than individial
If the team is cleaning up at A, then that's a good reason to look towards AA.
Historically, minor year teams moving to Bantam struggle with the physicality. Size of the team does matter, but most likely an average size minor year Bantam team is going to end up in Flight2.
The AA Flight system is a joke, but if the main objective is competition, it's probably better to play in Flight2 than to play in Bantam A and win 90% of all the games by 5+ goals. Again this presupposes that you have a team that has just outgrown PWA and/or should have been playing AA all year. Usually that is obvious at this point of the season, and can be proven in end of year tournament play.
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There is a great new hockey podcast many of you may enjoy. It's a weekly show geared towards parents who are newer to the sport or are just starting out and have questions. Check it out if you have a chance..https://anchor.fm/randy-gifford (https://anchor.fm/randy-gifford)
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are this weekends scores correct? the ones that have been posted
Which ones surprised you ?
Ducks 4 and SDIA
And while not really surprising Condors are probably going to drop in the next 3 games. I thought if they beat Wave they might be really strong.
any idea who is going to be 6-7-8
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There is a great new hockey podcast many of you may enjoy. It's a weekly show geared towards parents who are newer to the sport or are just starting out and have questions. Check it out if you have a chance..https://anchor.fm/randy-gifford (https://anchor.fm/randy-gifford)
Listened to all 3 episodes. Smart, funny, plenty of "hot takes" as the kids like to say.
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SDIA is a fake team... Pretenders.
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are this weekends scores correct? the ones that have been posted
Which ones surprised you ?
Ducks 4 and SDIA
And while not really surprising Condors are probably going to drop in the next 3 games. I thought if they beat Wave they might be really strong.
any idea who is going to be 6-7-8
Have you NOT read my POWER RANKINGS?!?!? All your answers are there.
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:o
Was I wrong?!?!?
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SDIA is a fake team... Pretenders.
my guess is they were short some players (the one that i got admonished for praising)
Changes that team
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:o
Was I wrong?!?!?
Not at all!!!!
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Running through some potential scenarios with this years playoff seedings I just now noticed GR plays an extra game. 16 reg games vs everyone else's 15.
This happened last year in SQBB where they were 1 point shy of a playoff spot and could have bumped a team that earned a spot but played 1 less game. Teams were told they picked a game at random at the beginning of the season and will "unveil" that pick when the season is over. Unveil to whom I have no idea. Win or lose the game is dropped, potentially affecting their qualifying for playoffs or seeding (like it will this year especially if they drop their loss to Bakersfield).
How is it the GR is awarded this luxury of an extra game? Do their clubs always get an extra game and I am just now noticing? I'm calling BS.
Also, teams like Wave 1 only play their regular 15 while most other clubs played at least 1 exhibition game and at least 1 team (looking at you Kings 2) will have played 2.
So GR could potentially come out of this season undefeated and top seed if that loss is discarded at the end of the season.
/rant off
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With 21 teams getting a 15 game schedule someone would need to play an extra game. How the decide who plays that game and the random dropped game I have no idea but I somehow there some grand conspiracy at the PWA level. My experience has been mostly seems like SCAHA drops the teams and ices slots into a scheduling system and it is what it is. We've been on teams with 2 home games all season. Going to away games twice in one season to the same team. I'm sure it's a big job to balance but i'm not certain they care that much. My 2 cents
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With 21 teams getting a 15 game schedule someone would need to play an extra game.
I fully understand that part but it's just 2 years in a row with the same club makes me suspect.
My seeding predictions:
1 Wave (1) 29 pts
2 Goldrush 28 pts (Max 30 - Bakersfield Loss Dropped)
3 Empire HC 25 pts (Max 27 - Win vs Condors)
4 Jr Condors 24 pts (Max 26 - Win vs Empire)
5 SDIA 23 pts (Max 25 - Win vs Ducks3)
6 Jr. Kings (2) 21 pts
7 Jr. Ducks (3) 21 pts (Max 23 - Win vs SDIA)
8 Jr. Ducks (4) 19 pts
Wave 1 vs Jr. Ducks (4)
Goldrush vs Jr. Ducks (3)
Empire HC vs Jr. Kings (2)
Jr Condors vs SDIA
So some potential for minor changes but i'd say it's going to be pretty close.
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Running through some potential scenarios with this years playoff seedings I just now noticed GR plays an extra game. 16 reg games vs everyone else's 15.
Also, teams like Wave 1 only play their regular 15 while most other clubs played at least 1 exhibition game and at least 1 team (looking at you Kings 2) will have played 2.
So GR could potentially come out of this season undefeated and top seed if that loss is discarded at the end of the season.
/rant off
LMAO!!!!! You mean GR played 16 and STILL didn't have to play the 2 best teams (Wave1, EHC) lolololololololz!
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With 21 teams getting a 15 game schedule someone would need to play an extra game.
I fully understand that part but it's just 2 years in a row with the same club makes me suspect.
No, the schedule is a guarantee as such for all teams/clubs: a combination of 20 games TOTAL (pre, exb, season). That's what you pay to get. Having 21 teams means nothing for 15 or 16, that's nonsense.
GR got 4 preseason and 16 season. Some got 4 pre, 1 exb, 15 season.... it all balances out. I get it.... not balanced for playoffs. I hear you...
I have even been part of a season where there was 5 pre, 15 season and 0 exb. FYI it is the 20 game number SCAHA cares about fulfilling.
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With 21 teams getting a 15 game schedule someone would need to play an extra game.
Wave 1 vs Jr. Ducks (4)
Goldrush vs Jr. Ducks (3)
Empire HC vs Jr. Kings (2)
Jr Condors vs SDIA
So some potential for minor changes but i'd say it's going to be pretty close.
Unless there was a major change, that is not how playoff work. It is round-robin 1,4,5,8 in Pool A and 2,3,6,7 in Pool B. Top 2 records from each Pool after Pool-play advance to a semi (single-elimination) then a championship.
Top 4 that are probably going to be in the semis (Wave1, EHC, Goldrush, and winner of SDIAvCondors)
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Good to know. I just assumed.
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Running through some potential scenarios with this years playoff seedings I just now noticed GR plays an extra game. 16 reg games vs everyone else's 15.
Also, teams like Wave 1 only play their regular 15 while most other clubs played at least 1 exhibition game and at least 1 team (looking at you Kings 2) will have played 2.
So GR could potentially come out of this season undefeated and top seed if that loss is discarded at the end of the season.
/rant off
LMAO!!!!! You mean GR played 16 and STILL didn't have to play the 2 best teams (Wave1, EHC) lolololololololz!
Realistically GR is probably in for a very rough play offs. They haven't played many "hard games" so it looks good in the standings but it might be just smoke and mirrors. But when the season started no one knew who was really going to be strong and who was just a lot of hot air.
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Running through some potential scenarios with this years playoff seedings I just now noticed GR plays an extra game. 16 reg games vs everyone else's 15.
Also, teams like Wave 1 only play their regular 15 while most other clubs played at least 1 exhibition game and at least 1 team (looking at you Kings 2) will have played 2.
So GR could potentially come out of this season undefeated and top seed if that loss is discarded at the end of the season.
/rant off
LMAO!!!!! You mean GR played 16 and STILL didn't have to play the 2 best teams (Wave1, EHC) lolololololololz!
Realistically GR is probably in for a very rough play offs. They haven't played many "hard games" so it looks good in the standings but it might be just smoke and mirrors. But when the season started no one knew who was really going to be strong and who was just a lot of hot air.
Goldrush is a legit team
Not as good as their parents think they are, but legit.
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Goldrush is a legit teamNot as good as their parents think they are, but legit.
I have seen them play several times. There is a reason I have them in the semi-final round. As far as I am concerned, if the seeding play out as we all think...
Pool A
1 - Wave1
4 - Condors
5 - SDIA
8 - JD4 (head-to-head v Bears in 2 weeks... last chance for Bears)
Pool B
2 - Goldrush
3 - Empire
6 - JK2
7 - JD3
Pool A - Wave1, Aaaaaaaaaaaaaand the second is a huge coin flip! My instinct says Condors.
Pool B - GR, EHC (other two have zero chance.)
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This weeks picks
JGULLS1 VS OC2 GULLS BY 3
JK1. VS JD2 DUCKS BY 3
Da BEARS VS EMPIRE EMPIRE BY 6
JDUCKS4. VS. FLYERS2 DUCKS BY 3
JDUCKS3 VS. JGULLS2 DUCKS BY 2
ICE DOGS VS JFLYERS1 DOGS BY 2
GOLDRUSH. VS. JRBENNYS. RUSH BY 12
OC1 VS. JR. CONDORD
IGLY BIRDS BY 13
GOOD LUCK EVERYONE
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POWER RANKINGS WK 12 and final standings predictions
1. Wave1 = 11-0-1 ; 14-0-1(29)
2. Condors = 9-2-0 ; 12-3-0(24)
3. Empire HC = 9-1-1 ; 13-1-1(27)
4. Goldrush = 11-1-0 ; 14-1-1(27) win taken away
5. SDIA = 8-1-3 ; 10-1-4(24) huge TIE vs Goldrush prediction!!!
6. Kings2 = 8-4-1 ; 10-4-1(21)
7. Ducks3 = 7-3-1 ; 9-5-1(19)
8. Ducks4 = 5-4-3 ; 7-4-4(18)
9. Bears = 6-4-1 ; 7-6-2(16)
10. Gulls1 = 5-5-2 ; 7-6-2(16)
Playoff Pool-seeds:
A
1. Wave1
4. Condors
5. SDIA
8. JD4
B
2. Goldrush (GD over EHC)
3. Empire HC
6. Kings2
7. JD3
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Your group A looks very competitive
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Your group A looks very competitive
I said it in an earlier post... Unlucky draw I guess, but Condors, SDIA, and JD4 all could beat each other on any given good/bad day, but I give Condors the edge.
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This is playoffs....ANY of those 4 teams can beat each other.
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Wow..... JD3 got blown out by Gulls2?!?!? *MINDBLOWN
They are so inconsistent it is ridiculous. That's all about coaching. They blow out typical bottom feeder teams, play tight in big games, but also get blown out. Bad game maybe?
They seem to have potential, but it might be too little, too late to get in the playoffs...
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Wow..... JD3 got blown out by Gulls2?!?!? *MINDBLOWN
They are so inconsistent it is ridiculous. That's all about coaching. They blow out typical bottom feeder teams, play tight in big games, but also get blown out. Bad game maybe?
They seem to have potential, but it might be too little, too late to get in the playoffs...
Crazy. Watching teams currently ranked 7th, 8th, & 9th finish is going to be pretty exciting. Good chance Ducks 3 will slip to 8th but can possibly lose their playoff spot to Gulls 1. Next 2-3 games are crucial for both clubs and they both have some competition waiting.
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Wow..... JD3 got blown out by Gulls2?!?!? *MINDBLOWN
They are so inconsistent it is ridiculous. That's all about coaching. They blow out typical bottom feeder teams, play tight in big games, but also get blown out. Bad game maybe?
They seem to have potential, but it might be too little, too late to get in the playoffs...
Crazy. Watching teams currently ranked 7th, 8th, & 9th finish is going to be pretty exciting. Good chance Ducks 3 will slip to 8th but can possibly lose their playoff spot to Gulls 1. Next 2-3 games are crucial for both clubs and they both have some competition waiting.
I stand by my predictions!!! Also, coming soon.... new POWER RANKINGS!
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No predictions for tomorrow?
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With 21 teams getting a 15 game schedule someone would need to play an extra game.
My seeding predictions:
1 Wave (1) 29 pts
2 Goldrush 28 pts (Max 30 - Bakersfield Loss Dropped)
3 Empire HC 25 pts (Max 27 - Win vs Condors)
4 Jr Condors 24 pts (Max 26 - Win vs Empire)
5 SDIA 23 pts (Max 25 - Win vs Ducks3)
6 Jr. Kings (2) 21 pts
7 Jr. Ducks (3) 21 pts (Max 23 - Win vs SDIA)
8 Jr. Ducks (4) 19 pts
Wave 1 vs Jr. Ducks (4)
Goldrush vs Jr. Ducks (3)
Empire HC vs Jr. Kings (2)
Jr Condors vs SDIA
UPDATE!!! - Quite the little shake-up at the bottom of the playoff race... It's THE PUSH TO THE PLAYOFFS!!!
My seeding predictions:
1 Wave (1) 29 pts
2 Goldrush 28 pts (Max 30 - Bakersfield Loss Dropped)
3 Empire HC 25 pts (Max 27 - Win vs Condors)
4 Jr Condors 24 pts (Max 26 - Win vs Empire)
5 SDIA 23 pts (Max 25 - Win vs Ducks3)
6 Jr. Kings (2) 21 pts
1 thru 6 All LOCKED UP! Then the sh!tstorm... the cutoff for playoff points seems to be 18.
Jr. Ducks (3) *17pts (2GR, fate in their own hands, but two impossible matchups vs Bears and SDIA. Wow, just wow.)
Bears *15pts (2GR, is that last game vs Wave2 an automatic win? Will JD3 ruin their hopes?)
Gulls 1 *14pts (2GR, is game vs IcePups an automatic win? Will the final game vs JD4 even matter?)
2-22-20 Bears v JD3... play-in game?!?!?
OUT!!!
Jr. Ducks (4) *15pts (1GR, screwed themselves by losing to Bears. HUGE swing game. Can they even beat Gulls1?)
Gulls 2 *16pts (1GR, MUST beat Goldrush for a shot and 18 pts.... sooooooo yeah, goodbye)
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Basically,
if Gulls 1 wins out... JD3 v Bears is a play-in game.
if Gulls 1 can't beat JD4, JD4, Bears/JD3 loser goes to GD... JD3 is lowest.
Three teams for the last two spots and it's really a toss-up.
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What's probably gonna happen?
Bears win out (19pts)
JD3 beats SDIA (19Pts
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What's probably gonna happen?
Bears win out (19pts)
JD3 beats SDIA (19Pts
Cant see JD3 beat SDIA
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Dont see too many playoff teams in tournaments this weekend, why ??
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EHC is doing a tournament in Colorado.
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Goldrush is as well
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Is GR playing EHC in CO?
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No, they are not.
They are playing OCHC 12UAA though. That's the only Cali team they are playing out there.
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They are in the same AA division different pools
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Wave1 went to Tinseltown and is 0-2. Lost to BWC and Bears AA. Playing in AA Elite.
Haven't found if Bakersfield went anywhere.
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SDIA in a weak AA tournament in SD. 4 teams and one is Gulls2 PWA.....
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Jk tournament has
AAA DUCKS 08
AAA KINGS 08
AABEARS
BC TEAM
WAVE
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Wave 0-3 at Tinseltown.
Goldrush 0-2-2 in CO (will it get reported to MHR? lolol no).
Empire HC 2-1-1 in CO
SDIA 1-2 in SD AA tourney... got smoked by the 2 AA teams they played... only beat Gulls2 A.....
No info on Condors???
That's the top 5 in SCAHA 12UA. Not jumping to conclusions, but contenders and pretenders separating themselves.
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Wave 0-3 at Tinseltown.
Goldrush 0-2-2 in CO (will it get reported to MHR? lolol no).
Empire HC 2-1-1 in CO
SDIA 1-2 in SD AA tourney... got smoked by the 2 AA teams they played... only beat Gulls2 A.....
No info on Condors???
That's the top 5 in SCAHA 12UA. Not jumping to conclusions, but contenders and pretenders separating themselves.
Condors went 4-0 in Vegas at A however. (https://www.lasvegasice.com/HOCKEY/YOUTHTOURNAMENTS/TournamentSchedule.aspx)
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Wave 0-3 at Tinseltown.
Goldrush 0-2-2 in CO (will it get reported to MHR? lolol no).
Empire HC 2-1-1 in CO
SDIA 1-2 in SD AA tourney... got smoked by the 2 AA teams they played... only beat Gulls2 A.....
No info on Condors???
That's the top 5 in SCAHA 12UA. Not jumping to conclusions, but contenders and pretenders separating themselves.
Condors went 4-0 in Vegas at A however. (https://www.lasvegasice.com/HOCKEY/YOUTHTOURNAMENTS/TournamentSchedule.aspx)
Wow, kind of a letdown. I mean, an "A" tourney with Gulls and IceDogs? That Flagstaff team is ranked #305 on MHR. Yikes. They didn't really go out of their way to challenge themselves, did they?
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What happened? Did everyone's account get banned?
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THIS WEEKS PICKS
JK1. VS EPPERLY WAVE. EPP WAVE BY 8
DaBEARS. VS. JD3 Da BEARS BY 1
FLYERS 1. JD2 JDs by 2
CONDORS VS. EMPIRE. UGLY BIRDS BY 2
JK1. VS OC2. OC BY 2
WAVE 2. VS. FLYERS 2 WAVE BY 1
ICE DOGS. VS. GULLS 1 DOGS BY 2
GOLDRUSH VS SDIA RUSH BY 1/2
GOOD LUCK EVERYONE
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There is one team to beat in Pee Wee A this season’s
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THIS WEEKS PICKS
JK1. VS EPPERLY WAVE. EPP WAVE BY 8
DaBEARS. VS. JD3 Da BEARS BY 1
FLYERS 1. JD2 JDs by 2
CONDORS VS. EMPIRE. UGLY BIRDS BY 2
JK1. VS OC2. OC BY 2
WAVE 2. VS. FLYERS 2 WAVE BY 1
ICE DOGS. VS. GULLS 1 DOGS BY 2
GOLDRUSH VS SDIA RUSH BY 1/2
GOOD LUCK EVERYONE
I think you meant JD1 vs Epp Wave (not JK1) Not sure if that changes your prediction
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Nope
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Nope
I don't know, I see that the Ducks 1 are playing Wave 1 at Great Parks. It's listed here as J. KINGS 1, but I guess SCAHA makes mistakes.
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Any word on empire/condors ?
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Heard Condor/Empire was a tie 1-1 and SDIA lost 2-1 against GR.
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Confirmed!
EHC and Jr. Condors tied 1-1.
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Just when you think you have it all figured out..... the Bears go and ruin everything...
SPOTS 1-6 are all locked up. With the recent upsets and under-achievers, there are amazingly 5, yep, FIVE teams all fighting for the FINAL 2 spots for SCAHA playoffs.
Jinkies!!!
Bears, Ducks3, Gulls1, Gulls2, and Ducks 4
Bears 17 --(19) easy win vs Wave2
Ducks3 17 --(??) huge play-in game vs SDIA
Gulls2 16 --(??) very tough gm vs Goldrush
Gulls1 16 --(??)
vs ----------- Play-in gm??? HUGE
Ducks4 15 --(??)
Predictions: A lot of possibilities. In reality, 4 teams for 1 spot. Just try and wrap your heads around all the "what if's"
REALITY - Ducks3 lose, Gulls2 lose, Gulls1vDucks4 winner in.... WOW!!!
Good luck! *can you imagine being Ducks3 and missing playoffs because of goal differential to (JD4)...JINKIES!!!
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Wow...
Gulls1 with the big win over Ducks4.
Fun Facts: ZERO Ducks teams in the playoffs ;D
Gulls2 almost beat Goldrush, but it would not have mattered.
Gulls 1 and 2 were playing at home at the same time today. LAME!
Ducks3 had their fate in their own hands and fell on their beaks. (JD3 beat Gulls1 during the season)
Any word on the "fake game" thrown away for Goldrush?
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Thats all thats left to be seen.
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Scaha will probably take away the game gold rush got smoked by the condors lol
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Well look at that, GR dropped a win (and a lot of GF/GD points). They finish 2nd.
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Who’s winning it all??? Predictions???
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Not sure who wins it all, top 4 teams are solid. After 1st round of playoffs semifinals should look like this.
Wave vs GR
Empire vs Condors
Team that shows up wins. Scaha and Caha title comes from Socal so final prediction is Wave vs Empire for both championships.
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Not sure who wins it all, top 4 teams are solid. After 1st round of playoffs semifinals should look like this.
Wave vs GR
Empire vs Condors
Team that shows up wins. Scaha and Caha title comes from Socal so final prediction is Wave vs Empire for both championships.
I likely agree on the final 4 and the matchups; however, I will say I have kept a CLOSE eye on the SC Blackhawks. They were at the jamboree CAHA weekend for AA and dropped down. They are ranked just as high/higher (depending on time of season) as Wave1 and Empire. SCB has pretty much dominated every "A" team in NorCal. Yes, the NorCal teams are a joke, but they still have played 14 or so AA tournament games and have taken their lumps. I would say they are a very, VERY capable team.
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SC Blackhawks do look legit, just looked them up. Should be interesting, good luck to all.
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Will be surprised if all top 4 teams in the regular season go on. Few years ago PW AA #1 seed lost to #8 seed and went home.
ANYONE CAN BEAT ANYONE.
An overconfident team can easily get bounced.
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When looking at the teams, I truly believe that there is a clear gap between 1-4 and 5-8. It has been a long season and these teams have played enough games to predict accurately what's going to happen.
Just take a look, the top 4 just don't lose games unless it is against the other top 4 caliber teams. SDIA is scrappy, but never really has proven to separate itself from the weaker teams (MAYBE, if anyone makes it, it might be SDIA, but do you really believe they can beat Wave1 or Condors? I do not).
As for that Kings team, it is no cowinkidink that all their losses (including preseason) are to every top 5 team and a tie to the other playoff team. The only playoff team they beat was the Bears.... and I had them OUT of the playoffs a month ago.
I would be shocked if anyone outside of 1-5 made it. SHOCKED, I SAY!!!
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Few years ago PW AA #1 seed lost to #8 seed and went home.
Bro, that #1 seed PWAA squad lost to the "9th" seed 8)
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Few years ago PW AA #1 seed lost to #8 seed and went home.
Bro, that #1 seed PWAA squad lost to the "9th" seed 8)
I figured you would cherp in. Good luck in States
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I figured you would cherp in. Good luck in States
You know how I do it! Come watch bro!!!
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You guys should be more worried about the coronavirus than a non-top 4 team advancing.
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You guys should be more worried about the coronavirus than a non-top 4 team advancing.
I'm good......i drink Pacifico.
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You guys should be more worried about the coronavirus than a non-top 4 team advancing.
I'm good......i drink Pacifico.
YIKES!! Only Tito's is an approved disinfectant.
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Saturday's winner was the Wave parent that was chirping the SDIA CLUCKING CHICKENS...Beers on me!! Somehow, they managed to annoy everyone in that building! It's all in good fun and all but, seriously enough of a reason to join the Gulls instead. In Playoff news, did GR really lose to the Bears and Empire beat the King in OT?! Further proof that anyone can win it.
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Not only did the Bears win the were up 3-0 by the second pd. Goldrush made a valiant effort at a comeback. And if Empire hadn't tied it with 9 seconds left, they wouldn't have gotten a chance to win in overtime on a play that should have been whistled dead.
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Uh oh! It's that time of year for the Excuses Train!
CHOOOO-CHOOOOOO!!!!
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Uh oh! It's that time of year for the Excuses Train!
CHOOOO-CHOOOOOO!!!!
No excuses just facts. Tell us what the future holds this week oh swami!
You guys should be more worried about the coronavirus than a non-top 4 team advancing.
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Wave vs bears
Empire vs condors
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2 teams that score at least 1 more goal than the other will go on.
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Well, as predicted all year....
SDIA was a garbage and a false prophet from day 1.
Bronzerush was hiding all there losses on MHR and was highly over ranked.
***(all of the sudden they have lost 5 out of last 7 (1-5-1) and are going home.)
Wave1, Empire, Condors have been the teams to beat ALL SEASON LONG.
Only thing I got wrong was Bears. To be honest, after watching a bunch of their games, they have a big goalie(s) and 5 players that stand in front of the net (like the glory days of OCHC teams - PACK IT IN!) Just like BLUTARSKY's GPA, they have a ZERO-POINT-ZERO chance of advancing to the finals! *in bold, but NOT a bold prediction.
Also, that little (young) Kings team was too young for the big stage. I guess winning a PW "A" aka Squirt Tinseltown tournament didn't prepare them for big-boy playoff hockey. (Not a slight. Just a joke. Don't get your panties jammed in your crack. Aren't those kids 09s? They will be fine.)
AND! The Bears advancing was about the 1-3% equivalence of fatal coronavirus spread in CA.
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Not only did the Bears win the were up 3-0 by the second pd. Goldrush made a valiant effort at a comeback. And if Empire hadn't tied it with 9 seconds left, they wouldn't have gotten a chance to win in overtime on a play that should have been whistled dead.
It “should†have been whistled dead but the unfortunate goaltender lifted his glove off the puck before the whistle. The intent to whistle rule doesn’t exist in youth hockey I guess. Nothing controversial really, just hockey.
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Not only did the Bears win the were up 3-0 by the second pd. Goldrush made a valiant effort at a comeback. And if Empire hadn't tied it with 9 seconds left, they wouldn't have gotten a chance to win in overtime on a play that should have been whistled dead.
It “should†have been whistled dead but the unfortunate goaltender lifted his glove off the puck before the whistle. The intent to whistle rule doesn’t exist in youth hockey I guess. Nothing controversial really, just hockey.
Also, you realize IF Empire lost that game in regulation they would STILL be the #1 seed out of that pool b/c they beat Bears head-to-head. That game seems to have proven to mean nothing except for IFs and BUTs and COCONUTS!
...and this whole board had it wrong - everyone thought Pool A was brutal, yet it went pretty much as planned. Pool B had the closer/tougher games. Not sure what that means, :o
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Well, as predicted all year....
SDIA was a garbage and a false prophet from day 1.
Bronzerush was hiding all there losses on MHR and was highly over ranked.
***(all of the sudden they have lost 5 out of last 7 (1-5-1) and are going home.)
Wave1, Empire, Condors have been the teams to beat ALL SEASON LONG.
Only thing I got wrong was Bears. To be honest, after watching a bunch of their games, they have a big goalie(s) and 5 players that stand in front of the net (like the glory days of OCHC teams - PACK IT IN!) Just like BLUTARSKY's GPA, they have a ZERO-POINT-ZERO chance of advancing to the finals! *in bold, but NOT a bold prediction.
Also, that little (young) Kings team was too young for the big stage. I guess winning a PW "A" aka Squirt Tinseltown tournament didn't prepare them for big-boy playoff hockey. (Not a slight. Just a joke. Don't get your panties jammed in your crack. Aren't those kids 09s? They will be fine.)
AND! The Bears advancing was about the 1-3% equivalence of fatal coronavirus spread in CA.
I dont know about calling a team of 12 year olds garbage. A bit harsh.
There are a few of what i would call "dirty" players and parents are a bit........animated.
Seems like typical SD group to me. Nutty parents and a few kids with short fuses.
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Sorry, not sorry. I have had a personal rivalry with SDIA for years. Just clean trash-talk. Rivalries are healthy. They still have the coolest Zamboni door in all of California.
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And the Jerseys are cool. I wonder has anyone ever played a game against SDIA where there wasn't a MAJOR injury? You know the kind that takes 10-20 min. to check with their "team doctor" but the kid is back on the ice in 5? Kids will be kids, some are hot heads and do questionable things, but it all starts from the Coach.
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And the Jerseys are cool. I wonder has anyone ever played a game against SDIA where there wasn't a MAJOR injury? You know the kind that takes 10-20 min. to check with their "team doctor" but the kid is back on the ice in 5? Kids will be kids, some are hot heads and do questionable things, but it all starts from the Coach.
Lolololololz... they are not the only team that does this, but you kinda nailed it.
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Anyone hear that Goldrush is contesting their games or just a rumor??
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Anyone hear that Goldrush is contesting their games or just a rumor??
I heard the same...........nothing confirmed though.
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Just looking at good old posts from pg1...
It was known from the start.... even though some teams were moving down from AA, the writing was on the wall back in August!
FIVE.... 5 of the 8 playoff teams were in Ana playing the Early Bird Tourney.
GR(3-1-1), Kings2(3-2-0), Wave1(3-1-0), Gulls1(3-1-0), Empire (6-0-0).
Three of the semi round teams were all in POOL B last weekend (EHC, GR, JK2).
Bakersfield was the only AA team (of 3 teams) to make playoffs. Don't know where SDIA or Bears were that weekend.
Simply put, there were no real surprises this season IMO.
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Anyone hear that Goldrush is contesting their games or just a rumor??
I heard the same...........nothing confirmed though.
Contesting what ??
That their lil Gretzkys are not as good as they thought.
Those SOC parents have excuses for EVERYTHING !
we were missing players.....dog ate our skates......should have been #1 seed.......
If they would have been in the other bracket every one of those teams bounce them !!
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Maybe they already had rooms booked in San Jose :-*
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Flights to NorCal are dirt cheap... Maybe because the bay area is the outbreak monkey thanks to that cruise ship.
Santa Clara County reports new cases, bans large gatherings of 1,000 or more. This is San Jose, where states are. Still not one word from CAHA on the matter. What an absolute JOKE!
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****PLAYOFF POWER RANKINGS!!!!!****
These bad-boys include NorCal teams as well.
1. Black Hawks (21-9-0 overall... 18-0-0 NorCal)
2. Wave1 (25-4-2 overall... 17-0-1 SCAHA)
3. Empire (28-7-5 overall... 15-1-2 SCAHA)
4. Condors (18-7-1 overall... 14-3-1 SCAHA)
5. C. Thunder (12-3-2 MHR...... 15-2-1 NorCal)
6. Vaca Jets (10-6-3 MHP....... 11-5-2 NorCal)
7. Bears (11-13-4 overall.. 11-6-1 SCAHA)
8. Cu.Cougars (9-11-1 MHR....... 9-9-0 NorCal)
Those are the remaining teams and the MHR Rankings order. Interesting...
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Flights to NorCal are dirt cheap... Maybe because the bay area is the outbreak monkey thanks to that cruise ship.
Santa Clara County reports new cases, bans large gatherings of 1,000 or more. This is San Jose, where states are. Still not one word from CAHA on the matter. What an absolute JOKE!
Wow, really? All those kids going into a known infection zone? Even Coachella has been postponed (ie canceled).
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Anyone hear that Goldrush is contesting their games or just a rumor??
I've literally never heard of a contested game result ever being overturned.
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The ban effects gatherings of 1,000 people or more at one time. I'm doubting youth hockey is bringing that many people together all at once. They could always change venues to Irvine if they are that worried 😁
I'd hate for them to cancel after all the hard work the kids put in to get to finals as some other states have seen happen.
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The ban effects gatherings of 1,000 people or more at one time. I'm doubting youth hockey is bringing that many people together all at once. They could always change venues to Irvine if they are that worried 😁
I'd hate for them to cancel after all the hard work the kids put in to get to finals as some other states have seen happen.
The facility is 4 sheets of ice and games going on at all times. There is more than 1,000 people in there guaranteed. Been there, seen it. And they have a restaurant. :o [size=78%] [/size]
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The ban effects gatherings of 1,000 people or more at one time. I'm doubting youth hockey is bringing that many people together all at once. They could always change venues to Irvine if they are that worried 😁
I'd hate for them to cancel after all the hard work the kids put in to get to finals as some other states have seen happen.
The facility is 4 sheets of ice and games going on at all times. There is more than 1,000 people in there guaranteed. Been there, seen it. And they have a restaurant. :o
Yup, there will be way more than 1000 people. They are already canceling events at the venue, I think it's just a matter of time. Moving it to Irvine won't help because you have possible contamination from people up north coming down here. Would it suck? hell yes, but let's be real some kids grand parent could get it (or anyone "at risk") and pass away, is any youth sport worth that? And yes, I have heard the "It's just like the flu" argument many times already. It's going to be interesting to see how CAHA, the Clubs, the parents, all react.
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http://www.norcalyouthhockey.org/news-story.php?id=170
NORCAL NEWS NORCAL Playoffs & COVID-19 Update As you may have heard by now, the County of Santa Clara Public Health Dept issued an order this evening to cancel any mass gatherings of 1000 people of more. This will take effect on March 11th and last for three weeks. Please click HERE (https://www.sccgov.org/sites/phd/DiseaseInformation/novel-coronavirus/Pages/home.aspx) for full details.
This obviously has a major impact on the NORCAL 10A, 12A, 14A 14B Flight II and 16A division playoffs scheduled at Solar4America Ice this upcoming Friday, March 13th, through Sunday, March 15th. The Executive Board is working through and finalizing the details of a plan to reduce the number of spectators attending playoffs. We will also be reaching out to our governing bodies, CAHA and USA Hockey, for guidance on this situation. Lastly, we continue to work with rink management to make sure we can hold playoffs and still abide by the mandate from Santa Clara County.
The Executive Board will continue to update you as more specifics continue to unfold. We will have more information to the playoff-bound teams by Wednesday evening.
I do ask for your patience and understanding as we work through this unique time. With everyone’s cooperation, I strongly believe that we can still give our young players the playoff experience they have worked so hard for this season. Providing them with a fun, safe and healthy hockey experience is the primary goal of everything we do. I ask that we all keep that in the back of our minds this week.
More to come soon. Thank you.
Matt Adams
NORCAL President
(posted 3/10/2020)
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http://www.norcalyouthhockey.org/news-story.php?id=170 (http://www.norcalyouthhockey.org/news-story.php?id=170)
NORCAL NEWS NORCAL Playoffs & COVID-19 Update As you may have heard by now, the County of Santa Clara Public Health Dept issued an order this evening to cancel any mass gatherings of 1000 people of more. This will take effect on March 11th and last for three weeks. Please click HERE (https://www.sccgov.org/sites/phd/DiseaseInformation/novel-coronavirus/Pages/home.aspx) for full details.
This obviously has a major impact on the NORCAL 10A, 12A, 14A 14B Flight II and 16A division playoffs scheduled at Solar4America Ice this upcoming Friday, March 13th, through Sunday, March 15th. The Executive Board is working through and finalizing the details of a plan to reduce the number of spectators attending playoffs. We will also be reaching out to our governing bodies, CAHA and USA Hockey, for guidance on this situation. Lastly, we continue to work with rink management to make sure we can hold playoffs and still abide by the mandate from Santa Clara County.
The Executive Board will continue to update you as more specifics continue to unfold. We will have more information to the playoff-bound teams by Wednesday evening.
I do ask for your patience and understanding as we work through this unique time. With everyone’s cooperation, I strongly believe that we can still give our young players the playoff experience they have worked so hard for this season. Providing them with a fun, safe and healthy hockey experience is the primary goal of everything we do. I ask that we all keep that in the back of our minds this week.
More to come soon. Thank you.
Matt Adams
NORCAL President
(posted 3/10/2020)
Can hear the Cons ( incorrect spelling?) solution.....Vacaville......"Its in a different county. No problem."
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We need to rattle some cages... we cant leave this decision up to NORCAL!!!!!
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Bring the state finals down here
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Bring the state finals down here
This is CAHA, I doubt they could handle the logistical changes that would be necessary. I’m sure they’ll come up with a ticketed solution. Like 3 tickets per player/coach or something along those lines. They’ll probably charge the kids and their families triple the normal rate for hotel stays to cover their loses.
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Dr. Trump has COVID-19 under control. NOCAL should let them play!
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SCAHA CORONA VIRUS MESSAGE Corona virus and semi finals and finals
Published On : Mar 12 2020 03:53 AM Hello Hockey Families[/size]As you may know, in late December the first case of Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) was reported in Wuhan, China. Since that time, many health organizations around the world have been following the virus closely, by January 21 the first case on US soil was confirmed. As with any newly emerging infectious disease, knowledge evolves with time and recommendations are changing rapidly. We are closely monitoring information from public health officials and will continue to follow their prevention guidelines to help keep everyone in our hockey community stay informed. This weekend is our final weekend for hockey in Scaha - We are aware that in Northern California the area's are advising to keep and public gathering to under 1000 people. From a semi final perspective, we have 20 games spread across 4 facilities - so the gatherings at each facility on Saturday will certainly be reasonable and will reflect a typical SCAHA weekend in general.For Sunday (Championship Day), We will be hosting 10 games total - playing games on both sheets. As long as families do not linger after their championship game, we will be good with that 1,000 person guideline. (20 team members x 8 teams in the building at any one time with approx 3-4 family members per player is approx 800 people).We ask our families to please me mindful of this guideline, and keep your attendance to your immediate family only. Norcal, due to their county's requirements - are handing out wristbands and are limiting attendance to just two people per player. We currently do not have such a requirement from the county. The King's facility supports live barn on the internet - so the game is available to watch live remotely for extended family and friends. (great news). We will also be changing our post game handshakes - We will limit them to a single line of fist bumps after the game with the gloves remaining on the hands. We will forgo the extended handshakes when awarding the hardware after the game.While at the facility: Please use the friendly elbow bump or fist bump to say hello. Wash your hands frequently with warm, soapy water for at least 20 seconds. Cough and sneeze etiquette is encouraged Clean frequently touched surfaces. Please do not linger. After your game, please head on out and enjoy the rest of the afternoon.We will stay informed and will let everyone know if events change in this dynamic situation. If you would like more information on the Coronavirus, please refer to: https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019 (https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019) Kind regards,SCAHA
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USA hockey canceled Nationals
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CURRENT STATUS: GAME ON
Update as of March 11th, 2020 @ 6:30pm
Limit of 2 spectators per player for the Playoff games this weekend. There will be a registration table and wrist bands….
Dates: March 13-15th
Location: Solar for America Ice, 500 S 10th St, San Jose, CA 95112 (https://goo.gl/maps/uz8n6tqYPyd4MZSAA)
If you won’t be at the games you can watch it via LiveBarn (https://www.livebarn.com/). Use the following promo code for a 10% discount: San Jose: solr-8a8c
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CURRENT STATUS: GAME ON
Update as of March 11th, 2020 @ 6:30pm
Limit of 2 spectators per player for the Playoff games this weekend. There will be a registration table and wrist bands….
Dates: March 13-15th
Location: Solar for America Ice, 500 S 10th St, San Jose, CA 95112 (https://goo.gl/maps/uz8n6tqYPyd4MZSAA)
If you won’t be at the games you can watch it via LiveBarn (https://www.livebarn.com/). Use the following promo code for a 10% discount: San Jose: solr-8a8c
10%? So generous.
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CURRENT STATUS: GAME ON
Update as of March 11th, 2020 @ 6:30pm
Limit of 2 spectators per player for the Playoff games this weekend. There will be a registration table and wrist bands….
Dates: March 13-15th
Location: Solar for America Ice, 500 S 10th St, San Jose, CA 95112 (https://goo.gl/maps/uz8n6tqYPyd4MZSAA)
If you won’t be at the games you can watch it via LiveBarn (https://www.livebarn.com/). Use the following promo code for a 10% discount: San Jose: solr-8a8c
10%? So generous.
Seriously.
Funny thing is, SCAHA and CAHA will NOT have the backing of USA hockey if anything goes wrong. USA Hockey has washed its hands of anything "sanctioned". It is no longer their responsibility, you're on your own. I think it's funny the organizer thinks "if it's under 1000 people, everyone will be safe". Put me in a room with 10,000 healthy people vs. a room of 10 with 1 infected. That 1000 number is totally random.
Is it too late to get into professional video gaming?
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Thomas Hancock, President, California Amateur Hockey Association CAHA State Events Status – COVID-19March 12, 2020
To: All CAHA Post Season ParticipantsRe: CAHA State Events Dear CAHA Participant Members,
This communication is being sent to advise that at this time Tier 2 State Championships are proceeding as scheduled.
As everyone must be aware, yesterday Governor Newsom announced the updated recommendations by California Department of Public Health that large gatherings of 250 or more attendees be canceled or rescheduled, the precise language that would apply to our events is cited as follows (the actual document from CDPH can be found here); “Large gatherings that include 250 people or more should be postponed or canceledâ€â€œâ€¢ A “gathering†is any event or convening that brings together people in a single room or single space at the same time, such as an auditorium, stadium, arena, large conference room, meeting hall, cafeteria, or any other indoor or outdoor space.â€Although for our Tier 2 Event this coming weekend we do not expect to be near that 250 person limit at any given time, CAHA nonetheless recommends that all State Championship bound teams follow the following event protocols and CDPH/CDC recommendations;
1) Teams are not to arrive at the event earlier that 1 hour prior to their scheduled game time
2) Teams are to leave the event not later than 30 minutes at the conclusion of each game played
3) Spectators should not enter the event earlier than 30 minutes prior to their player’s scheduled game time
4) People that are considered to be in a CDC defined "higher risk" demographic should voluntarily stay home
5) Attendees should diligently follow CDC’s recommendations for "protecting themselves"
With respect to CAHA’s upcoming Select Camp and A/BB/B and High School Division 1B/2B State Championships, at this time CAHA is still planning on proceeding with these events as well, but as the COVID-19 situation is very fluid, that decision may change depending on any new updates or mandates by California Department of Public Health.
Sincerely,Thomas Hancock PresidentCc:D. Bigelow, SCAHAM. Adams, NORCALD. Bigelow, SCAHAM. Blanchart, ADHSHLM. Petrovich, LAKHSHLS. Galaviz, SHSHLG. Leibl, CAHAMember Participants
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This communication is being sent to advise that at this time Tier 2 State Championships are proceeding as scheduled.
We have a global pandemic, the CDC, NIH, and state of Cal are trying to reduce the spread of COVID-19, countless events are being cancelled across the country including Natys, and this is considered a responsible decision by CAHA. WTF?
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Current Status: Playoffs Postponed
Update as of March 12th, 2020 @ 5:00pm
NorCal voted to postpone playoff games this weekend due to concerns regarding COVID-19. They will reconvene March 31st to decide when or if the games can be rescheduled — we will keep you up to date. All clubs were and will be represented during the decision making.
Individuals teams will be notified through TeamSnap if any new ice time or practices are made available for them.
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This communication is being sent to advise that at this time Tier 2 State Championships are proceeding as scheduled.
We have a global pandemic, the CDC, NIH, and state of Cal are trying to reduce the spread of COVID-19, countless events are being cancelled across the country including Natys, and this is considered a responsible decision by CAHA. WTF?
Calm down its not like they are canceling the March Madness or something. Also don't worry I believe there will only be 249 people there so everyone is safe. I mean each sheet of ice is it's own arena right?
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Tier 2 State Championships cancelled.
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Updated: 3/12/2020 Sharks Ice Community,
As we continue to monitor the developing situation with the COVID-19 virus, the Sharks Ice Network of public skating facilities (Solar4America Ice in San Jose and Fremont and the Oakland Ice Center) will temporarily close operations to the general public for three days beginning Friday March 13th thru Sunday March 15th. We will reopen on Monday March 16th for normal programing. During this pause, we will use the opportunity to enhance our cleaning practices and to assess upcoming events and programming to determine the best schedule that will comply with all governmental mandates for the communities safety.
The Norcal “A†Championships that were scheduled to be played at Solar4America Ice at San Jose have been postponed to a later date.
While information from the local, state and federal government is changing rapidly, please continue to follow our social channels and website for updated information. We thank all of our guests for their patience and understanding during this time.
Information about reschedule or other compensatory measures for canceled programs will be released shortly.
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Playoffs have been cancelled, not postponed! Sign the petition to have SCAHA reconsider postponement. http://chng.it/kFSBVFtN6B
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I'm just realizing everything for spring is going to get affected. This bs is not going away in a month, anyone get a notice yet of selects being canceled? Sticktimes? Lessons? I know parents that are canceling thing but I was wondering if the programs are canceling too. Sadly I think the coaches are going to go through a tough few months.
Edit: The Rinks are CLOSED
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Remaining CAHA State Events Status Mar 13, 2020 9:59 PM March 13, 2020
To: All CAHA Members
Re: Remaining 2019-2020 CAHA State Events Cancellation
Dear Participant Members,
Effective immediately by unanimous vote, CAHA has cancelled all remaining CAHA Post Season events. This includes CAHA Select Camp scheduled for March 20-22, 2020, in Lakewood, and Youth A/BB/B and High School 1B/2B State Championships scheduled for March 27-29, 2020 in San Jose.
This decision was made after careful deliberation and in the primary interest of protecting the health and safety of our member clubs, spectators, and most importantly, our athletes.
While we understand this decision is disappointing, we strongly believe that the opportunity to compete in these events does not outweigh our obligation to place the health and safety of our membership above all else. The impact of COVID-19 has created many unexpected challenges as our season draws to an end, and we want to thank everyone involved for their flexibility, patience, and commitment in providing our athletes a great experience despite this unique situation.
Lastly, we want to recognize the hard work and commitment our athletes/teams have made to reach their respective League Playoffs/Championships that would have qualified them to advance to CAHA State Championships, and salute them for the accomplishment.
Sincerely,
Thomas Hancock
President