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Title: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Puck Yeah on June 06, 2016, 07:51:54 AM
How do the teams look for the upcoming season?

So far I have only heard the Heat had a weak showing and Valencia is fully rostered.

How are all the other teams looking?

How did the Mariners fair after the controversy with Pavel moving?  Which teams are looking strong?

What about JKs?  After the fiasco last year was a lesson learned?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Puck Yeah on June 07, 2016, 04:52:28 PM
400 views and no input?  The Bantam thread is usually busy.

I guess I am not being controversial or insulting enough.... ;)
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on June 08, 2016, 10:14:36 AM
I see that Valencia has just added AA for the Endless Summer Tourney Labor Day. Where is everyone going?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Southbay Hockey on June 11, 2016, 11:01:00 AM
I was told that the JKs have one AA team.  Didn't see them play in any Memorial Day tournaments. 


How does the team look? 
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: OneandDone on June 17, 2016, 11:49:32 AM
I see that Valencia has just added AA for the Endless Summer Tourney Labor Day. Where is everyone going?

IHE has so far:

OCHC1
OCHC2
Ducks
AZ Sun Devils
AZ Jr Coyotes
Carlsbad Saints
Wave (Ontario)
Gulls
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: IHE Tournaments on June 21, 2016, 09:48:54 PM
I see that Valencia has just added AA for the Endless Summer Tourney Labor Day. Where is everyone going?

IHE has so far:

OCHC1
OCHC2
Ducks
AZ Sun Devils
AZ Jr Coyotes
Carlsbad Saints
Wave (Ontario)
Gulls


The Ventura Mariners and Golden State Elite have registered for the Bantam AA division also. Only two spots left.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: orangecone on June 22, 2016, 08:05:58 AM
OCHC 2 (Wademan 03's) is playing the Labor Day Hockey fest.. Yorba, Lake Forest, Aliso.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Panther Coach on June 22, 2016, 08:56:13 AM
Did the Gulls end up with a AA team?  I had heard the turnout for AA was not good hence they dropped out of the Memorial Day Tournament in Riverside.  Just curious
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on June 22, 2016, 09:22:11 AM
Did the Gulls end up with a AA team?  I had heard the turnout for AA was not good hence they dropped out of the Memorial Day Tournament in Riverside.  Just curious

It says above they are still in the tourney as AA. Where did you hear they dropped?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Panther Coach on June 22, 2016, 09:24:57 AM
Did the Gulls end up with a AA team?  I had heard the turnout for AA was not good hence they dropped out of the Memorial Day Tournament in Riverside.  Just curious

It says above they are still in the tourney as AA. Where did you hear they dropped?



I had heard it from a couple of Gulls parent's that are now on our team familiar with the program. 
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on June 22, 2016, 09:30:25 AM
Did the Gulls end up with a AA team?  I had heard the turnout for AA was not good hence they dropped out of the Memorial Day Tournament in Riverside.  Just curious

It says above they are still in the tourney as AA. Where did you hear they dropped?



I had heard it from a couple of Gulls parent's that are now on our team familiar with the program.

Oh good info thanks
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Panther Coach on June 22, 2016, 09:51:37 AM
Did the Gulls end up with a AA team?  I had heard the turnout for AA was not good hence they dropped out of the Memorial Day Tournament in Riverside.  Just curious

It says above they are still in the tourney as AA. Where did you hear they dropped?



I had heard it from a couple of Gulls parent's that are now on our team familiar with the program.

Oh good info thanks


Their website does not show a coach assignment for AA, but it does indicate a Mite Elite coach which is great to see  ::)
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Maverick on June 22, 2016, 10:55:51 AM
Did the Gulls end up with a AA team?  I had heard the turnout for AA was not good hence they dropped out of the Memorial Day Tournament in Riverside.  Just curious


Yes they put together a AA team that is supposed to play out of Poway Ice.  They dropped out of the Memorial Day Tourney only is what I heard.   
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: trans4761 on June 22, 2016, 12:49:42 PM
Did the Gulls end up with a AA team?  I had heard the turnout for AA was not good hence they dropped out of the Memorial Day Tournament in Riverside.  Just curious

It says above they are still in the tourney as AA. Where did you hear they dropped?



I had heard it from a couple of Gulls parent's that are now on our team familiar with the program.

Oh good info thanks


Their website does not show a coach assignment for AA, but it does indicate a Mite Elite coach which is great to see  ::)
Sweet !
They can register and play in the Tinsel town '10 AAASUPERDUPERELITE. Division in the next tournament.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: HockeyDadx3 on June 22, 2016, 03:59:00 PM
Did the Gulls end up with a AA team?  I had heard the turnout for AA was not good hence they dropped out of the Memorial Day Tournament in Riverside.  Just curious

It says above they are still in the tourney as AA. Where did you hear they dropped?



I had heard it from a couple of Gulls parent's that are now on our team familiar with the program.

Oh good info thanks


Their website does not show a coach assignment for AA, but it does indicate a Mite Elite coach which is great to see  ::)
Sweet !
They can register and play in the Tinsel town '10 AAASUPERDUPERELITE. Division in the next tournament.


They need to hook up with that 06' Ducks parent/coach and get those kids on the International circuit of tournaments before it's too late!!!!
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on July 18, 2016, 09:51:52 AM
Calhockey is dead what's everyone doing chasing Pokemon go? Do I need to call Trans out?

 :'(
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: goonhockey on July 18, 2016, 11:29:50 AM
too busy in offseason training maybe LOL
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: trans4761 on July 18, 2016, 02:08:16 PM
My horse is not in the Bantam Derby.

Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on July 18, 2016, 02:20:25 PM
Yeah but look. now we have three new posts. Should I call out the Lady Ducks again for having to play games that don't count? lol
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: HockeyDadx3 on July 18, 2016, 02:32:12 PM
C'mon guys, I need some reading material. I am getting bored out here in Colorado. They don't have smack talking forums like this.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: goonhockey on July 18, 2016, 02:43:03 PM
when does vegas put out the odds on the 19 teams this year?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on July 18, 2016, 02:51:21 PM
when does vegas put out the odds on the 19 teams this year?

Our Bookie from last year is stuck in Pee Wees. Trans 8) Also I think the field in AA 14.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: goonhockey on July 18, 2016, 02:59:13 PM
1 bears
2 blackhawks
3 ducks1
4 ducks2
5 gse1
6 gse2
7 jr flyers
8 jr gulls
9 jr kings
10 mariners
11 oc1
12 oc2
13 oilers
14 jr sharks1
15 jr sharks2
16 saints
17 wave1
18 wave2
19 wildcats


14 socal and 5 norcal...

Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: rosetta on July 18, 2016, 03:34:31 PM
My bet is on the sharks 02 team. They were supposed to a major year AAA team this season, right? Can't wait for people calling them "sandbagging" ...  :)
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Handboni on July 18, 2016, 09:24:03 PM
Sharks 02 is a great call.  Despite losing three players to AAA, I think OC 02 will be one of the top teams, along with Ducks 02. What's the word on GSE and Blackhawks 02?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Face Wash on July 18, 2016, 10:18:12 PM
OC2 will never succeed with the coach they have!
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Handboni on July 19, 2016, 07:24:20 AM
Do you mean OC1, which is to 02 team, or OC2, which is the 03 team?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Puck Yeah on July 19, 2016, 08:17:21 AM
My bet is on the sharks 02 team. They were supposed to a major year AAA team this season, right? Can't wait for people calling them "sandbagging" ...  :)

What was the reasoning behind not icing a AAA major this year?  Was the team a wobbler and they decided to play down?  Players leave the north for the south.  I don't hear much about NorCal.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Face Wash on July 19, 2016, 09:00:21 AM
Do you mean OC1, which is to 02 team, or OC2, which is the 03 team?


I meant the 02 team.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on July 19, 2016, 10:04:32 AM
1 bears
2 blackhawks
3 ducks1
4 ducks2
5 gse1
6 gse2
7 jr flyers
8 jr gulls
9 jr kings
10 mariners
11 oc1
12 oc2
13 oilers
14 jr sharks1
15 jr sharks2
16 saints
17 wave1
18 wave2
19 wildcats


14 socal and 5 norcal...

Interesting I know that Bears team is strong they are are heavy 02 with some AAA players. Are both Wave teams that weak? 
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: slash on July 19, 2016, 10:10:02 AM

02 AAA Sharks reason for opting to go AA was mentioned in the Norcal forum:

Several players decided to move down to AA due to the amount of practice and travel involved with playing AAA and demands of their new high schools next year. Although they had enough kids at tryouts, the new kids trying out didn't have the skills. The AAA families were offered a team with a short bench, but two of the skaters decided to tryout out of state. The end result: One skater is playing 16AAA and one goalie made the 14AAA Ducks. The Jr. Sharks decided to have two 14AA teams (14AA National and 14AA American) The remaining AAA players are on the 14AA National team and will be treated like a AAA team with the exception of playing in the T1EHL.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Puck Yeah on July 19, 2016, 10:15:59 AM
1 bears
2 blackhawks
3 ducks1
4 ducks2
5 gse1
6 gse2
7 jr flyers
8 jr gulls
9 jr kings
10 mariners
11 oc1
12 oc2
13 oilers
14 jr sharks1
15 jr sharks2
16 saints
17 wave1
18 wave2
19 wildcats


14 socal and 5 norcal...

Interesting I know that Bears team is strong they are are heavy 02 with some AAA players. Are both Wave teams that weak?

I believe that is alphabetical order PK.........
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on July 19, 2016, 10:36:34 AM
1 bears
2 blackhawks
3 ducks1
4 ducks2
5 gse1
6 gse2
7 jr flyers
8 jr gulls
9 jr kings
10 mariners
11 oc1
12 oc2
13 oilers
14 jr sharks1
15 jr sharks2
16 saints
17 wave1
18 wave2
19 wildcats


14 socal and 5 norcal...

Interesting I know that Bears team is strong they are are heavy 02 with some AAA players. Are both Wave teams that weak?

I believe that is alphabetical order PK.........

Doh my bad  :P I just looked at the Wildcats in last and thought that sounds right.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Teemu8 on July 19, 2016, 11:13:53 AM
I think that Wave2 is all 03s ,  most of whom were peewee AA Ducks last year. 
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: BlindZebras on July 19, 2016, 12:07:06 PM
Hmmm...which team is the Wave2, Artesia or Ontario?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Teemu8 on July 19, 2016, 12:36:46 PM
Artesia
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Face Wash on July 19, 2016, 03:18:54 PM
OC2 will never succeed with the coach they have!


HAHAHA  LOL Daddy Goon has to troll the Bantam board.  Oh Wait! We are supposed to be impressed baby goon got a "scholarship" to the free online school.  You know the mass email that offered scholarships to basically everyone.  Wow, good luck with that.  Lets see how many games you and boy wonder get kicked out this year....  But I am sure it will be the opposing coaches fault, not your own!


Sorry man but you have me mixed up with another dad on here, I don't have a kid in the system.  I do watch my nephew who plays at the Ducks though.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Puck Yeah on July 19, 2016, 03:56:09 PM
OC2 will never succeed with the coach they have!

HAHAHA  LOL Daddy Goon has to troll the Bantam board.  Oh Wait! We are supposed to be impressed baby goon got a "scholarship" to the free online school.  You know the mass email that offered scholarships to basically everyone.  Wow, good luck with that.  Lets see how many games you and boy wonder get kicked out this year....  But I am sure it will be the opposing coaches fault, not your own!

Sorry man but you have me mixed up with another dad on here, I don't have a kid in the system.  I do watch my nephew who plays at the Ducks though.

DOHHH!!!    ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on July 19, 2016, 04:22:26 PM
OC2 will never succeed with the coach they have!

HAHAHA  LOL Daddy Goon has to troll the Bantam board.  Oh Wait! We are supposed to be impressed baby goon got a "scholarship" to the free online school.  You know the mass email that offered scholarships to basically everyone.  Wow, good luck with that.  Lets see how many games you and boy wonder get kicked out this year....  But I am sure it will be the opposing coaches fault, not your own!

Sorry man but you have me mixed up with another dad on here, I don't have a kid in the system.  I do watch my nephew who plays at the Ducks though.

DOHHH!!!    ;D ;D ;D ;D

Nothing like calling out the wrong guy. Awkward :o
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: In The Crease on July 19, 2016, 05:03:12 PM
OC2 will never succeed with the coach they have!


HAHAHA  LOL Daddy Goon has to troll the Bantam board.  Oh Wait! We are supposed to be impressed baby goon got a "scholarship" to the free online school.  You know the mass email that offered scholarships to basically everyone.  Wow, good luck with that.  Lets see how many games you and boy wonder get kicked out this year....  But I am sure it will be the opposing coaches fault, not your own!


Sorry man but you have me mixed up with another dad on here, I don't have a kid in the system.  I do watch my nephew who plays at the Ducks though.


So right Buddy!  BIG APOLOGIES!!!!!!!!  SO Sorry! 

Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Face Wash on July 19, 2016, 05:15:46 PM
OC2 will never succeed with the coach they have!


HAHAHA  LOL Daddy Goon has to troll the Bantam board.  Oh Wait! We are supposed to be impressed baby goon got a "scholarship" to the free online school.  You know the mass email that offered scholarships to basically everyone.  Wow, good luck with that.  Lets see how many games you and boy wonder get kicked out this year....  But I am sure it will be the opposing coaches fault, not your own!


Sorry man but you have me mixed up with another dad on here, I don't have a kid in the system.  I do watch my nephew who plays at the Ducks though.


So right Buddy!  BIG APOLOGIES!!!!!!!!  SO Sorry!


No worries, that other guy is still on here I bet!
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Handboni on July 19, 2016, 06:23:15 PM
Where did AAA players on Bears come from?  They are a returning team to Bantam AA.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on July 19, 2016, 08:50:21 PM
Where did AAA players on Bears come from?  They are a returning team to Bantam AA.


03 kids from their Pee Wee AAA team last year.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: orangecone on July 19, 2016, 10:12:33 PM
I think that Wave2 is all 03s ,  most of whom were peewee AA Ducks last year.
Same with OC2... All but 2 or 3 are 03's
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Puck Yeah on July 20, 2016, 06:58:42 AM
So OC2 is going to be that strong with nearly all 03s?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: goonhockey on July 20, 2016, 10:55:35 AM
few all minor (or mostly minor) teams will be able to compete from day 1, thus the rationale for people picking sharks1 as an early favorite.  they are mostly (all?) major and most have tier 1 experience.


for that same reason, oc1 (02s) and ducks1 (02s) are in the same grouping.


the minor teams with tier 1 experience will catch up a bit to the mixed teams, but hard to skate against a 15 yr old in january and february.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Handboni on July 20, 2016, 09:52:14 PM
Where did AAA players on Bears come from?  They are a returning team to Bantam AA.


03 kids from their Pee Wee AAA team last year.


Of course, makes sense.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: orangecone on July 20, 2016, 10:22:40 PM
So OC2 is going to be that strong with nearly all 03s?
Highly doubt that.. OC 2 is a much improved team over the Wademan team from last season... But will struggle this season as a minor team fielding 90 percent 03's. Thats the way it goes when you go that route.... hopefully it will pay off in the following season if the team stays together.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Handboni on July 21, 2016, 05:05:45 AM
So OC2 is going to be that strong with nearly all 03s?
Highly doubt that.. OC 2 is a much improved team over the Wademan team from last season... But will struggle this season as a minor team fielding 90 percent 03's. Thats the way it goes when you go that route.... hopefully it will pay off in the following season if the team stays together.


We'll see if that strategy pays off this major season for OC1, Ducks1 and Bears.  I suspect it will, especially with the Bears rounding out its roster with solid 03's from its AAA team.  Sharks are still the early season favorite.  Any other teams in that mix?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Reality check on July 21, 2016, 08:01:24 AM
I think the jets have a great chance. Who really knows!!!
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Puck Yeah on July 21, 2016, 08:07:57 AM
It is always interesting to see the changes from beginning of the season to the end.  Lower rung teams sometimes really gel and come on and the teams with high expectations sometimes plateau.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Handboni on July 22, 2016, 07:17:26 PM
That's where good coaching makes a difference.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Panther Coach on August 05, 2016, 12:44:51 PM
What are the thoughts on the IHE tournament?  I'm thinking Ducks and OCHC1 are going to be tough for the mostly minor year teams this early in the season.

 GSE 
 Ventura Mariners   
 CA Wave (Calder)
 Nevada Storm 
 AZ Jr Sun Devils
 CA Wave (Hamacher)   
 OCHC (Wademan)   
 San Diego Jr Gulls 
 AZ Jr Coyotes   
 San Diego Saints 
 Anaheim Jr Ducks 
 OCHC (Shand) 
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on August 05, 2016, 01:28:50 PM
What are the thoughts on the IHE tournament?  I'm thinking Ducks and OCHC1 are going to be tough for the mostly minor year teams this early in the season.

 GSE 
 Ventura Mariners   
 CA Wave (Calder)
 Nevada Storm 
 AZ Jr Sun Devils
 CA Wave (Hamacher)   
 OCHC (Wademan)   
 San Diego Jr Gulls 
 AZ Jr Coyotes   
 San Diego Saints 
 Anaheim Jr Ducks 
 OCHC (Shand)

If the GSE team is the Pee Wee AA team from last year I would put them in the mix of top teams.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Panther Coach on August 21, 2016, 08:08:48 PM
IHE schedule is posted
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Puck Yeah on August 23, 2016, 11:04:54 AM
14 SCAHA BTN AA teams, how many NorCal teams are there this year?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Panther Coach on August 23, 2016, 11:19:36 AM
14 SCAHA BTN AA teams, how many NorCal teams are there this year?


Sharks 1
Sharks 2
GSE 1
GSE 2
Blackhawks
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: BlindZebras on August 23, 2016, 05:10:23 PM
I hear that the Artesia Wave team fell victim to the PDR rule and will be forced to play down in Bantam A...
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Puck Yeah on August 23, 2016, 05:22:35 PM
I hear that the Artesia Wave team fell victim to the PDR rule and will be forced to play down in Bantam A...

If that is true and they are a BTN AA level team then they are not the only "victims".    BTN A getting their butts kicked by a AA team that takes State because they should be playing AA could be an unintended consequence.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: BBNMCAS on August 24, 2016, 06:52:51 AM
I hear that the Artesia Wave team fell victim to the PDR rule and will be forced to play down in Bantam A...

If that is true and they are a BTN AA level team then they are not the only "victims".    BTN A getting their butts kicked by a AA team that takes State because they should be playing AA could be an unintended consequence.

I heard they're playing in BN A and they won't be eligible for playoffs.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: HockeyPop2297 on August 24, 2016, 08:20:27 AM
Think that team was all 03's. Heard the Ducks 03AAA team has two openings from players that quit after making the team? If that's the case, can't those Wave players choose to switch to that team?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Puck Yeah on August 24, 2016, 08:41:33 AM
Think that team was all 03's. Heard the Ducks 03AAA team has two openings from players that quit after making the team? If that's the case, can't those Wave players choose to switch to that team?

They would need a release.  But that is apples and oranges.  Tier I and Tier II. 
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: rosetta on August 24, 2016, 09:56:54 AM
Why would signed players quit their team before the season even starts?  :o

Think that team was all 03's. Heard the Ducks 03AAA team has two openings from players that quit after making the team? If that's the case, can't those Wave players choose to switch to that team?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: HockeyPop2297 on August 24, 2016, 10:06:39 AM
Good question! Apparently kids changed schools over the summer. Maybe parents moved out of area? Did find out Wave players will be released from AA LOI and have to sign new LOI since changing to lower division! As far as Tier 1 vs Tier 2 being apples & oranges, dropping from Tier 2 to "A" is comparing oranges to plums? Am sure many of the players on Tier 1 teams came from Tier 2!
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Puck Yeah on August 24, 2016, 01:37:12 PM
Good question! Apparently kids changed schools over the summer. Maybe parents moved out of area? Did find out Wave players will be released from AA LOI and have to sign new LOI since changing to lower division! As far as Tier 1 vs Tier 2 being apples & oranges, dropping from Tier 2 to "A" is comparing oranges to plums? Am sure many of the players on Tier 1 teams came from Tier 2!


My point was dropping from Tier II to A  doesn't mean the Tier II  players have the chops to play Tier I... or maybe even the inclination.  A BIT more of a commitment. for sure.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Tripod on August 25, 2016, 09:44:30 AM
Good question! Apparently kids changed schools over the summer. Maybe parents moved out of area? Did find out Wave players will be released from AA LOI and have to sign new LOI since changing to lower division! As far as Tier 1 vs Tier 2 being apples & oranges, dropping from Tier 2 to "A" is comparing oranges to plums? Am sure many of the players on Tier 1 teams came from Tier 2!


My point was dropping from Tier II to A  doesn't mean the Tier II  players have the chops to play Tier I... or maybe even the inclination.  A BIT more of a commitment. for sure.

I believe that Wave team was in Escondido this past weekend.  Can anyone corroborate that?  I watched the game.  0-0 after 1, 5-0 after 2 and finished winning 5-4 over the Jr. Gulls U13AAA. 
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Shut Your 5-Hole on August 25, 2016, 10:17:45 AM
Kids could have also dropped because the game has totally changed with hitting involved now. Isn't that usually the case?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Tripod on August 25, 2016, 10:39:13 AM
Kids could have also dropped because the game has totally changed with hitting involved now. Isn't that usually the case?

I would say that is the case of an individual dropping out of  hockey. Dropping to bantam A does not get you out of body checking.  I would even argue that the lower the level, the more you see high elbows, high hands, hits from behind, etc. ... Where the kids have less mastery of hitting and avoiding/absorbing hits.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: rosetta on August 25, 2016, 01:24:17 PM
Is this for real? if true, I think it's shame to force those kids to play BNA. For once, I wish the association could think about players involved, instead of silly PDR numbers someone came up with two months before try-out.

I believe that Wave team was in Escondido this past weekend.  Can anyone corroborate that?  I watched the game.  0-0 after 1, 5-0 after 2 and finished winning 5-4 over the Jr. Gulls U13AAA.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Tripod on August 25, 2016, 02:13:29 PM
Is this for real? if true, I think it's shame to force those kids to play BNA. For once, I wish the association could think about players involved, instead of silly PDR numbers someone came up with two months before try-out.

I believe that Wave team was in Escondido this past weekend.  Can anyone corroborate that?  I watched the game.  0-0 after 1, 5-0 after 2 and finished winning 5-4 over the Jr. Gulls U13AAA.

The score is real.  The identity of the Wave team was relayed to me second hand as I did not speak with a Wave parent directly.  I don't see a purpose for PDR other than restricting player movement.  Frankly, restricting freedoms is not cool in the land of the free.  How about ensuring that your club and coaches are top notch to keep your customers coming back instead of saying that they will have to drop a tier or not be eligible for playoffs (presumably, that means all your league games will be exhibition).  That will make your club and SCAHA better.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: HockeyPop2297 on August 25, 2016, 02:16:15 PM
Yes, the Wave team being pushed down to A did play Gulls AAA in a scrimmage and won 5-4. They are being pushed down because of not making their PDR. what's even more ironic, although not AA, the Kings 03 AAA team are playing in the 02 division because of an "exception" by CAHA. Why couldn't CAHA make an exception for the Wave?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: BigDuke6 on August 25, 2016, 02:19:54 PM
Kids could have also dropped because the game has totally changed with hitting involved now. Isn't that usually the case?

I would say that is the case of an individual dropping out of  hockey. Dropping to bantam A does not get you out of body checking.  I would even argue that the lower the level, the more you see high elbows, high hands, hits from behind, etc. ... Where the kids have less mastery of hitting and avoiding/absorbing hits.

I would agree.  Based on what I've observed the lower the level the more hitting just to hit, and the more borderline hits.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: BBNMCAS on August 25, 2016, 02:29:56 PM
I believe the rules are in place to prevent coaches from "shopping" their teams to other clubs for more money. For example, coach goes to the president of a different club and offers to bring 15 families with him if the president will pay him more than his current salary.  While I understand everyone's point of allowing AA players to play in AA, it sets a bad precedent to not punish a team that follows a coach looking for more money. Just my $0.02...
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: rosetta on August 25, 2016, 03:01:03 PM
A coach with such loyal following probably did deserve a pay raise. :)

Seriously though, the revised PDR was announced in April. At that point, a lot of the teams already had their "core players" in mind. Even if it is a 100% good rule, CAHA could have avoid this by implementing it from the 2017-18 season.

BTW, is there any ground in the rulebook for banning them from BNA playoffs?
 
I believe the rules are in place to prevent coaches from "shopping" their teams to other clubs for more money. For example, coach goes to the president of a different club and offers to bring 15 families with him if the president will pay him more than his current salary.  While I understand everyone's point of allowing AA players to play in AA, it sets a bad precedent to not punish a team that follows a coach looking for more money. Just my $0.02...
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: SkatingDad on August 25, 2016, 11:15:17 PM
I believe the rules are in place to prevent coaches from "shopping" their teams to other clubs for more money. For example, coach goes to the president of a different club and offers to bring 15 families with him if the president will pay him more than his current salary.  While I understand everyone's point of allowing AA players to play in AA, it sets a bad precedent to not punish a team that follows a coach looking for more money. Just my $0.02...


Let's not forget that this Wave coach was one of the coaches allegedly fired from the Ice Dogs last season for shopping teams. This seems to be a fair application of the PDR rule based on the history of this team's coach. Unfortunately, to punish those who don't follow the rules or act in an ethical manner ultimately ends up punishing others. 
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: HockeyPop2297 on August 26, 2016, 12:26:02 AM
To sum it up: PDR is basically a decoy "supposedly" established to force clubs to develop their own players? But is actually a "non-compete" to prevent coaches from taking players they develop to other teams? So although parents pay the cost of this development, we face limitations as to what team we want to spend that money on. Unless we don't care in what division they play? Imagine a youth sport where parents would have freedom of choice...oops, guess that's what inhouse hockey is for! Once at the Tier level, the coach that's been with the players for years was only good at developing players while the coach belonged to the club. If they go elsewhere... their history of development is no longer valid. How ridiculous. Let there be no doubt, youth hockey clubs are more about business then player development... other than for retaining the revenue from us!
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Puck Yeah on August 26, 2016, 08:48:38 AM
This is only a symptom of our society at large.  See something you don't like happening? pass a  regulation.  That regulations begets 3 more unanticipated problems so pass 3 more regulations to try and rein that in.  Then you need more regulations to get the folks that get around those regulations.  Welcome to the new America.  Freedom has been traded in for safely and regulation.  Here is your participation trophy.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: BBelieber on August 26, 2016, 09:39:08 AM

Let's not forget that this Wave coach was one of the coaches allegedly fired from the Ice Dogs last season for shopping teams. This seems to be a fair application of the PDR rule based on the history of this team's coach. Unfortunately, to punish those who don't follow the rules or act in an ethical manner ultimately ends up punishing others.


While I have no dog (sorry) in this hunt, you have the order backwards: Dogs coach was "fired," and only then did he look elsewhere.  He was not fired because he tried to shop the team around.  But PDR still applies. 
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Face Wash on August 26, 2016, 10:48:15 AM
Whay was he fired?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Handboni on August 26, 2016, 11:34:39 AM
To sum it up: PDR is basically a decoy "supposedly" established to force clubs to develop their own players? But is actually a "non-compete" to prevent coaches from taking players they develop to other teams? So although parents pay the cost of this development, we face limitations as to what team we want to spend that money on. Unless we don't care in what division they play? Imagine a youth sport where parents would have freedom of choice...oops, guess that's what inhouse hockey is for! Once at the Tier level, the coach that's been with the players for years was only good at developing players while the coach belonged to the club. If they go elsewhere... their history of development is no longer valid. How ridiculous. Let there be no doubt, youth hockey clubs are more about business then player development... other than for retaining the revenue from us!


Telling it like it is!
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: MO-ICETIME on August 26, 2016, 11:55:51 AM

Let's not forget that this Wave coach was one of the coaches allegedly fired from the Ice Dogs last season for shopping teams. This seems to be a fair application of the PDR rule based on the history of this team's coach. Unfortunately, to punish those who don't follow the rules or act in an ethical manner ultimately ends up punishing others.


While I have no dog (sorry) in this hunt, you have the order backwards: Dogs coach was "fired," and only then did he look elsewhere.  He was not fired because he tried to shop the team around.  But PDR still applies.


No dog in the race either, but i was hearing of the shopping around during the end of the season as in the season was still going on. Again, it's just what I heard so the truth has to be somewhere in the middle? LOL!
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: BBelieber on August 26, 2016, 12:16:11 PM

No dog in the race either, but i was hearing of the shopping around during the end of the season as in the season was still going on. Again, it's just what I heard so the truth has to be somewhere in the middle? LOL!


Correct, but the "firing" occurred before the end of the season, and before the "shopping."  Coach is a good guy.  Personality differences caused the divorce, nothing more.   [/gossip]   8)
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: trans4761 on August 26, 2016, 02:53:15 PM
To sum it up: PDR is basically a decoy "supposedly" established to force clubs to develop their own players? But is actually a "non-compete" to prevent coaches from taking players they develop to other teams? So although parents pay the cost of this development, we face limitations as to what team we want to spend that money on. Unless we don't care in what division they play? Imagine a youth sport where parents would have freedom of choice...oops, guess that's what inhouse hockey is for! Once at the Tier level, the coach that's been with the players for years was only good at developing players while the coach belonged to the club. If they go elsewhere... their history of development is no longer valid. How ridiculous. Let there be no doubt, youth hockey clubs are more about business then player development... other than for retaining the revenue from us!
From my understanding, it came down to the jds getting butt hurt that a majority of their PWAA team jumped ship to follow their coach to the Wave. Upset their boyfiend found a better looking chick after leaving his things on the front porch. Because of that the rest of the Bantam A team's are going to get crushed.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Hockey05 on August 26, 2016, 11:15:29 PM
I don't know the details but why did it take this long to figure out the PDR rule had been broken?  If that is the case then parents and players were done a disservice. 
Last year we read the Riptide dilemma by other teams and how good they were.  This team sounds like it is even better if allowed in the playoffs. 
Maybe that team should play three fourths of the SCAHA games in order to travel.  Will they be fined by SCAHA for games missed?  Maybe they will commit to travel tournaments and other scrimmages. 
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: goaliedad19 on August 27, 2016, 06:21:38 AM
I heard early on the parents were aware after tryouts, but the thought was only that they would not be eligible for caha playoffs. The subsequent change to make scaha games count probably altered the situation.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Northland on August 27, 2016, 04:31:26 PM
To sum it up: PDR is basically a decoy "supposedly" established to force clubs to develop their own players? But is actually a "non-compete" to prevent coaches from taking players they develop to other teams? So although parents pay the cost of this development, we face limitations as to what team we want to spend that money on. Unless we don't care in what division they play? Imagine a youth sport where parents would have freedom of choice...oops, guess that's what inhouse hockey is for! Once at the Tier level, the coach that's been with the players for years was only good at developing players while the coach belonged to the club. If they go elsewhere... their history of development is no longer valid. How ridiculous. Let there be no doubt, youth hockey clubs are more about business then player development... other than for retaining the revenue from us!
From my understanding, it came down to the jds getting butt hurt that a majority of their PWAA team jumped ship to follow their coach to the Wave. Upset their boyfiend found a better looking chick after leaving his things on the front porch. Because of that the rest of the Bantam A team's are going to get crushed.

Trans, man you nailed that and the part about their BF finding a better looking chick.  Classic!
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on August 27, 2016, 06:58:56 PM
So can someone confirm that we only have two pre season games now? What's going on with that? Were just keep losing games.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Teemu8 on August 27, 2016, 07:46:05 PM
So can someone confirm that we only have two pre season games now? What's going on with that? Were just keep losing games.

Schedule has 5 pre-season games
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Teemu8 on August 27, 2016, 07:46:50 PM
Bantam A schedule has 5.... not sure of AA
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: MO-ICETIME on August 27, 2016, 08:35:00 PM
Bantam A schedule has 5.... not sure of AA


All A/B teams have 5 preseason games from Squirt to Bantam. Can't speak to Teir...
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: MO-ICETIME on August 27, 2016, 08:43:45 PM
So can someone confirm that we only have two pre season games now? What's going on with that? Were just keep losing games.


Check with your Club Pres on that.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on August 27, 2016, 09:15:52 PM
So can someone confirm that we only have two pre season games now? What's going on with that? Were just keep losing games.


Check with your Club Pres on that.


It's all across the board in AA
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: MO-ICETIME on August 28, 2016, 12:08:13 AM
So can someone confirm that we only have two pre season games now? What's going on with that? Were just keep losing games.


Check with your Club Pres on that.


It's all across the board in AA


I see that. You asked for confirmation? I'm saying if you want to know why, I'd recommend talking to your club pres. I have learned it's a good place to start asking if you really want to know. After all, all rules are voted on by them.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: MO-ICETIME on August 28, 2016, 12:10:27 AM
So can someone confirm that we only have two pre season games now? What's going on with that? Were just keep losing games.


Check with your Club Pres on that.


It's all across the board in AA


I know, that I'd want to know why only 2 games, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: BlindZebras on August 29, 2016, 09:34:16 AM
Let's not forget that this Wave coach was one of the coaches allegedly fired from the Ice Dogs last season for shopping teams. This seems to be a fair application of the PDR rule based on the history of this team's coach. Unfortunately, to punish those who don't follow the rules or act in an ethical manner ultimately ends up punishing others.
I'm not sure we're talking about the same coach.  My understanding is that the Artesia Wave BN AA (now BN A) coach was with the JR Ducks last several years.  He supposedly got a one-year suspension by the club for Safe Sport misconduct but opted to quit and coach elsewhere, and in the process brought several JR Ducks kids with him.  This threw off the PDR percentage but they were perfectly willing to forego a playoff berth in order to play AA, but (again, allegedly) the PDR committee changed the rule this summer disallowing them from participating in AA at all.  I have no confirmation for these rumors, hence the use of the term "rumors", just spoke with an involved parent...
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Ziegler on August 29, 2016, 09:46:50 AM
If this is indeed true, the best part of the story is the multiple parents following a coach who violated safe sport misconduct.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Tripod on August 29, 2016, 10:36:02 AM
If this is indeed true, the best part of the story is the multiple parents following a coach who violated safe sport misconduct.

Maybe PDR should be tied to the coach and not the players if the clubs are trying to prevent coaches from taking players en masse.  Kind of like how sales or marketing people often cannot take their client lists to competing companies. 
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Ziegler on August 29, 2016, 10:37:39 AM
I think the current rule in place is that if a coach exits and goes to another team the max he can take from the old team is 5 or 6. Not sure if that has been revised.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: BigDuke6 on August 29, 2016, 11:25:57 AM
I thought it was less than that, maybe 3, but I believe that particular rule does exist.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: BBNMCAS on August 29, 2016, 12:26:43 PM
Let's not forget that this Wave coach was one of the coaches allegedly fired from the Ice Dogs last season for shopping teams. This seems to be a fair application of the PDR rule based on the history of this team's coach. Unfortunately, to punish those who don't follow the rules or act in an ethical manner ultimately ends up punishing others.
I'm not sure we're talking about the same coach.  My understanding is that the Artesia Wave BN AA (now BN A) coach was with the JR Ducks last several years.  He supposedly got a one-year suspension by the club for Safe Sport misconduct but opted to quit and coach elsewhere, and in the process brought several JR Ducks kids with him.  This threw off the PDR percentage but they were perfectly willing to forego a playoff berth in order to play AA, but (again, allegedly) the PDR committee changed the rule this summer disallowing them from participating in AA at all.  I have no confirmation for these rumors, hence the use of the term "rumors", just spoke with an involved parent...

From what I understand the "head" coach was with the Ice Dogs but the coach running the show was with JR Ducks.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: BlindZebras on August 29, 2016, 12:49:39 PM
Let's not forget that this Wave coach was one of the coaches allegedly fired from the Ice Dogs last season for shopping teams. This seems to be a fair application of the PDR rule based on the history of this team's coach. Unfortunately, to punish those who don't follow the rules or act in an ethical manner ultimately ends up punishing others.
I'm not sure we're talking about the same coach.  My understanding is that the Artesia Wave BN AA (now BN A) coach was with the JR Ducks last several years.  He supposedly got a one-year suspension by the club for Safe Sport misconduct but opted to quit and coach elsewhere, and in the process brought several JR Ducks kids with him.  This threw off the PDR percentage but they were perfectly willing to forego a playoff berth in order to play AA, but (again, allegedly) the PDR committee changed the rule this summer disallowing them from participating in AA at all.  I have no confirmation for these rumors, hence the use of the term "rumors", just spoke with an involved parent...

From what I understand the "head" coach was with the Ice Dogs but the coach running the show was with JR Ducks.
Judging by their current website, I'm inclined to agree with you.  If there is any truth to the Safe Sport violation, I'm surprised another club would want anything to do with that coach, same goes for the parents.  Oh well, to each their own.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: trans4761 on August 29, 2016, 01:10:41 PM
Let's not forget that this Wave coach was one of the coaches allegedly fired from the Ice Dogs last season for shopping teams. This seems to be a fair application of the PDR rule based on the history of this team's coach. Unfortunately, to punish those who don't follow the rules or act in an ethical manner ultimately ends up punishing others.
I'm not sure we're talking about the same coach.  My understanding is that the Artesia Wave BN AA (now BN A) coach was with the JR Ducks last several years.  He supposedly got a one-year suspension by the club for Safe 0Sport misconduct but opted to quit and coach elsewhere, and in the process brought several JR Ducks kids with him.  This threw off the PDR percentage but they were perfectly willing to forego a playoff berth in order to play AA, but (again, allegedly) the PDR committee changed the rule this summer disallowing them from participating in AA at all.  I have no confirmation for these rumors, hence the use of the term "rumors", just spoke with an involved parent...

From what I understand the "head" coach was with the Ice Dogs but the coach running the show was with JR Ducks.
Judging by their current website, I'm inclined to agree with you.  If there is any truth to the Safe Sport violation, I'm surprised another club would want anything to do with that coach, same goes for the parents.  Oh well, to each their own.
From my understanding, there was a SS violation, but nothing "major".  Probably something most people on this board have done 😋,
Either way, if my lil Gretzkie was playing Bantam A, I would be telling him that he's playing for 2nd place. It's too bad that the spite of a club, would affect the balance of a division. Jmo
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: BBNMCAS on August 29, 2016, 01:53:46 PM
Another bit of information I've heard is that each team is playing 5 preseason games to give SCAHA a true understanding of where teams should play.  I think they're are trying to avoid what happened with Riptide last season. (PW AA playing in A)  I think after the preseason SCAHA will consider moving that Wave team up to AA based on the scores. I sure hope so...
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: BlindZebras on August 29, 2016, 02:17:54 PM
Hmmm, I don't know what I'm missing, but when I just checked the iScaha site I am only seeing 2 or 3 preseason games in Bantam AA depending on which team you're looking at.  And who decides which teams get 2 games vs. 3 games?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Maverick on August 29, 2016, 02:27:24 PM
Let's not forget that this Wave coach was one of the coaches allegedly fired from the Ice Dogs last season for shopping teams. This seems to be a fair application of the PDR rule based on the history of this team's coach. Unfortunately, to punish those who don't follow the rules or act in an ethical manner ultimately ends up punishing others.
I'm not sure we're talking about the same coach.  My understanding is that the Artesia Wave BN AA (now BN A) coach was with the JR Ducks last several years.  He supposedly got a one-year suspension by the club for Safe 0Sport misconduct but opted to quit and coach elsewhere, and in the process brought several JR Ducks kids with him.  This threw off the PDR percentage but they were perfectly willing to forego a playoff berth in order to play AA, but (again, allegedly) the PDR committee changed the rule this summer disallowing them from participating in AA at all.  I have no confirmation for these rumors, hence the use of the term "rumors", just spoke with an involved parent...

From what I understand the "head" coach was with the Ice Dogs but the coach running the show was with JR Ducks.
Judging by their current website, I'm inclined to agree with you.  If there is any truth to the Safe Sport violation, I'm surprised another club would want anything to do with that coach, same goes for the parents.  Oh well, to each their own.
From my understanding, there was a SS violation, but nothing "major".  Probably something most people on this board have done 😋,
Either way, if my lil Gretzkie was playing Bantam A, I would be telling him that he's playing for 2nd place. It's too bad that the spite of a club, would affect the balance of a division. Jmo


Agree the SS violation couldn't have been that bad, or he would be out.  Probably no attendant or a phone in room, and the coach gets the infraction.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: BBNMCAS on August 29, 2016, 02:58:55 PM
Hmmm, I don't know what I'm missing, but when I just checked the iScaha site I am only seeing 2 or 3 preseason games in Bantam AA depending on which team you're looking at.  And who decides which teams get 2 games vs. 3 games?

I was referring to Bantam A and below.  We have 5 preseason games for SCAHA to place teams in their appropriate division.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on August 29, 2016, 03:34:34 PM
Another bit of information I've heard is that each team is playing 5 preseason games to give SCAHA a true understanding of where teams should play.  I think they're are trying to avoid what happened with Riptide last season. (PW AA playing in A)  I think after the preseason SCAHA will consider moving that Wave team up to AA based on the scores. I sure hope so...

As a parent of a kid who played on the Riptide team they wouldn't allow to move up I say good luck. I have little faith they will do the right thing.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: HockeyDadx3 on August 30, 2016, 06:34:19 PM
Amen to that, PK.

I need to start a discussion,,err....shit talking board here in Colorado. I am missing the smack talk!
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: trans4761 on August 31, 2016, 09:21:13 AM
Amen to that, PK.

I need to start a discussion,,err....shit talking board here in Colorado. I am missing the smack talk!
No shit talking here.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on August 31, 2016, 04:20:52 PM
Amen to that, PK.

I need to start a discussion,,err....shit talking board here in Colorado. I am missing the smack talk!
No shit talking here.

Says the biggest shit talker.  ;D
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: KickSave on September 05, 2016, 01:49:45 PM
At IHE, semi-finals:
OCHC (Shand) v Wave (Hamacher)
Jr Ducks v GSE

Finals: Jr Ducks v OCHC
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: goonhockey on September 05, 2016, 11:04:23 PM
labor day weekend is done...who drops? who are the favorites now to be top 4? where does everyone rank?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Detroit Hockey Life on September 06, 2016, 09:58:23 AM
Not sure how the North looks SJ? The final between OC and Ducks came down to the wire. Great game!
30 seconds left in a tie game, the Ducks won the face off, point shot went wide right and bounced off the back boards back to the slot.  Ducks popped it in. Should be a great season.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: The Hun on September 06, 2016, 12:06:04 PM

OCHC (Shand) v Wave (Hamacher)



I wonder whether or not a video of the game is available somewhere. I'd love to purchase it. It wasn't much hockey played (other than crashing and running at each-other), but plenty to learn from it.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: hockeystick on September 06, 2016, 04:38:35 PM
2016/17 Bantam AA Top 3 teams will be
Jr Ducks (Flick)
OC (Shand)
Jr Sharks 
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Puck Yeah on September 06, 2016, 04:52:08 PM
Are OC's teams major and minor or mixed?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: BlindZebras on September 06, 2016, 05:56:30 PM
They are mixed...
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Srt8bigm on September 07, 2016, 07:12:17 AM
OC 2 team currently has 1 Goalie and 1 skater that are 2002 birth year players.  With 90% of the team consisting of 2003 birth year players I would consider them minor. OC 1 team has 1 03 goalie and 2 03 forwards and the rest of the team consists of 02's.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Handboni on September 09, 2016, 08:20:29 AM
Bantam AA Sharks played in the Bantam AAA division at the Kings Labor Day tournament. They had one competitive game against the 02 AAA Kings.  Still, the faster speed of play was probably good preparation for the season. They should be a serious contender in AA, despite losing most of their top players from last year's AAA team.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: 1hockeydad on September 09, 2016, 12:32:10 PM
Bantam AA Sharks played in the Bantam AAA division at the Kings Labor Day tournament. They had one competitive game against the 02 AAA Kings.  Still, the faster speed of play was probably good preparation for the season. They should be a serious contender in AA, despite losing most of their top players from last year's AAA team.

Isn't that Sharks team a mix with some of the kids from the Bantam AAA minor team, and the other AA team a mix of birth years and includes 2 of the players from Bantam AAA minor team?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on September 15, 2016, 09:31:15 AM
Hard to believe only three managers have figured out how to post scores from last weekend.  ???
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Xfactor_56 on September 15, 2016, 02:26:13 PM
Sounds like we have a volunteer   ;D
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on September 15, 2016, 02:30:35 PM
Sounds like we have a volunteer   ;D

Did it all last year it's pretty simple. Message me I can walk you through it.  :P
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Teemu8 on September 15, 2016, 03:17:12 PM
Im a manager myself and it literally takes 5 min to input the stats.  This is just laziness.  When I was one day late with the upload of the score sheet they threatened to fine me.  Wonder if these guys have received the same threat.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on September 15, 2016, 03:35:47 PM
Im a manager myself and it literally takes 5 min to input the stats.  This is just laziness.  When I was one day late with the upload of the score sheet they threatened to fine me.  Wonder if these guys have received the same threat.

 ;D This
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: HockeyPop2297 on September 16, 2016, 10:46:33 PM
I'm assuming the AA Managers are not aware of entering scores on SCAHA site. At least that sounds like a good reason!
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: area51 on September 17, 2016, 12:41:54 PM
maybe 5 minutes on the CAHA site, less than 30 seconds on the SCAHA site.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Puck Yeah on September 18, 2016, 08:13:58 PM
Still no scores being posted.  Hmmm.  I would be nice to see the outcomes.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on September 18, 2016, 08:32:26 PM
Still no scores being posted.  Hmmm.  I would be nice to see the outcomes.


Really lame! That and where is the schedule???
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Panther Coach on September 18, 2016, 08:44:28 PM
Ducks 1 over Kings . 12-0
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on September 18, 2016, 08:51:58 PM
Any word on any teams dropping down to A?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Panther Coach on September 18, 2016, 08:59:33 PM
There's about 4-5 that I could suggest...
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: hockeystick on September 19, 2016, 08:44:49 AM
The best player of Ducks even didn't show in this game.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Teemu8 on September 19, 2016, 09:15:20 AM
Wave team that should be AA has now won 2 A games by a combined score of 26-0. 
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: HockeyPop2297 on September 19, 2016, 09:53:16 AM
Wave team that should be AA has now won 2 A games by a combined score of 26-0.

I noticed that as well. Plus think they were playing one short with a player serving suspension. A case where rules vs. skills will most likely lead to a lopsided season. But if they are indeed ineligible for playoffs, the games are nothing more than exhibition games. Don't know the facts on that situation.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Teemu8 on September 19, 2016, 09:55:34 AM
A little birdie told me that they would not be eligible for playoffs at AA but they would be for A....
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Handboni on September 19, 2016, 10:02:21 AM
Are the relegated Wave players eligible to leave and go play AA for other teams?  Would think several might consider that if it is an option.  Different than last year's Riptide PWA team that wanted to play AA, but the club didn't have enough teams at the various levels to meet the criteria.  That team was allowed to compete for the state championship and won it all.  Will be interesting to see if the Wave team is eligible for playoffs.  They can certainly play AA tournaments and I'm sure will be looking for games with AA teams throughout the season. 
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on September 20, 2016, 07:15:40 AM
Some of the schedule is out looks like the first 6 weeks.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Detroit Hockey Life on September 20, 2016, 08:47:01 AM
Yep, Looks like CAHA is 10/16-17.

Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Puck Yeah on September 20, 2016, 08:56:33 AM
Are the relegated Wave players eligible to leave and go play AA for other teams?  Would think several might consider that if it is an option.  Different than last year's Riptide PWA team that wanted to play AA, but the club didn't have enough teams at the various levels to meet the criteria.  That team was allowed to compete for the state championship and won it all.  Will be interesting to see if the Wave team is eligible for playoffs.  They can certainly play AA tournaments and I'm sure will be looking for games with AA teams throughout the season.

The Wave has an AA BTN team.  Oddly enough they are listed as Wave (1).  Is the A team being denied an opportunity to play AA because the Wave must have an A team for eligibility for AA team?  If so, being relegated to be a place holder for another team is a disservice.  I think the rules need some reconsideration if that is the case.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Detroit Hockey Life on September 20, 2016, 10:02:14 AM
I heard it was PDR
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on September 20, 2016, 10:19:59 AM
I heard it was PDR

Yes it's PDR they won't move them. The must do what Riptide did last year now. Win state.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Detroit Hockey Life on September 20, 2016, 10:29:15 AM
Nothing new I guess. When we were b/a it always seemed there were teams playing to low.

Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Handboni on September 20, 2016, 10:56:12 AM
Agreed, they are staying put.  But if it is PDR, then shouldn't they be eligible for playoffs?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on September 20, 2016, 12:25:09 PM
Agreed, they are staying put.  But if it is PDR, then shouldn't they be eligible for playoffs?

In A I assume? Why wouldn't they be?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Panther Coach on September 20, 2016, 12:25:23 PM
I heard it was PDR


That is right and from I heard the parent's knew that was an issue when they signed. Everyone is complaining about CAHA when the rule is clear.  The Wave organization knows it and still fielded a team that didn't meet the requirements despite the first year of this new requirement allowing your 2014-2015 club to count towards the PDR.  They might be a top team in Bantam A but were not in AA.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Rats13 on September 20, 2016, 02:14:13 PM
Agreed, they are staying put.  But if it is PDR, then shouldn't they be eligible for playoffs?

In A I assume? Why wouldn't they be?

Maybe this?:
24.02 CAHA RULE - In order to be eligible for SCAHA and CAHA playoffs,Peewee, Bantam and Midget Tier II and ‘A’ level teams must meet the CAHA player development requirements (PDR)[/font]
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Handboni on September 20, 2016, 02:28:37 PM
Nice citation!
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Puck Yeah on September 20, 2016, 02:31:47 PM
Agreed, they are staying put.  But if it is PDR, then shouldn't they be eligible for playoffs?

In A I assume? Why wouldn't they be?

Maybe this?:
24.02 CAHA RULE - In order to be eligible for SCAHA and CAHA playoffs,Peewee, Bantam and Midget Tier II and ‘A’ level teams must meet the CAHA player development requirements (PDR)


So by moving up BOTH teams would become ineligible?

Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Detroit Hockey Life on September 24, 2016, 11:32:00 AM
And they're off! The first CAHA game is in the books. Good luck everyone. Have a safe fun season!
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: 1hockeydad on September 26, 2016, 10:07:35 AM
Looks like some big wins by JD1, OC1, Bears, and Wave.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on September 26, 2016, 10:34:26 AM
Looks like some big wins by JD1, OC1, Bears, and Wave.

What was the Wave score over Ducks?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: 1hockeydad on September 26, 2016, 10:57:30 AM
Looks like some big wins by JD1, OC1, Bears, and Wave.

What was the Wave score over Ducks?

On CAHA, 10 -1 win for Wave over JD2.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Panther Coach on September 26, 2016, 11:36:32 AM
Looks like some big wins by JD1, OC1, Bears, and Wave.

What was the Wave score over Ducks?

On CAHA, 10 -1 win for Wave over JD2.

I would have expected the JD1 and OC1 game scores but I thought the Bears v OC2 and Wave v JD2 would have been more competitive. 
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: BlindZebras on September 26, 2016, 12:39:12 PM
Definitely thought the Wave vs. Ducks(2) was gonna be tighter.  The Wave struggled putting the puck in the net during the two preseason games, despite out-shooting both opponents.  They seemed to figure things out yesterday, against a Ducks team that may have just under-performed.


Not surprised about the Bears vs. OC(2) score though, I think there's a decent talent gap there.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Panther Coach on September 26, 2016, 01:45:49 PM
Definitely thought the Wave vs. Ducks(2) was gonna be tighter.  The Wave struggled putting the puck in the net during the two preseason games, despite out-shooting both opponents.  They seemed to figure things out yesterday, against a Ducks team that may have just under-performed.


Not surprised about the Bears vs. OC(2) score though, I think there's a decent talent gap there.


Last years Bantam AA seemed a lot closer in terms of competitive teams top to bottom.  The JK's were the only team that got smoked while the rest had tighter competitive games.  Last year was also mostly major year teams while this one seems mixed to minor.  At this level teams shouldn't have double digit blowouts each week.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: The Hun on September 26, 2016, 02:05:34 PM
Definitely thought the Wave vs. Ducks(2) was gonna be tighter.  The Wave struggled putting the puck in the net during the two preseason games, despite out-shooting both opponents.  They seemed to figure things out yesterday, against a Ducks team that may have just under-performed.


Yep, they slightly under-performed...
It also helped that the Wave didn't hit the post 6 times (only 2 times), like last week, against the Kings.
There are days when everything goes in, and days when the puck finds a way to stay out after 30 shots. Hockey is funny, that way.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Puck Yeah on September 26, 2016, 02:54:21 PM
What was the outcome of the Wave vs Kings game prior?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Panther Coach on September 26, 2016, 08:13:48 PM
Game of the week this weekend. OC2 vs Ducks 2. Who will bounce back?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: BlindZebras on September 27, 2016, 07:26:59 AM
What was the outcome of the Wave vs Kings game prior?
Wave beat Wildcats 3-1 two weeks ago, and tied the Kings 2-2 last week.  I give credit to the defense and goal tenders on both teams because the Wave really struggled to put it in the net in both games.  A LOT of post shots and missed opportunities left on the ice.  The Ducks though, they had a solid tender in the net but he must've just had an off day, and his defense didn't do him any favors...
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: The Hun on September 27, 2016, 10:47:15 AM
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Wave beat Wildcats 3-1 two weeks ago, and tied the Kings 2-2 last week.  I give credit to the defense and goal tenders on both teams because the Wave really struggled to put it in the net in both games.  A LOT of post shots and missed opportunities left on the ice.  The Ducks though, they had a solid tender in the net but he must've just had an off day, and his defense didn't do him any favors...
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Plus, the fact that each of those games, a couple of forwards missed games (injury and personal reasons). And there was a suspension from the tournament before (Labor Day), that had to be served. So the offense was very depleted for a while and they played with two lines plus one player. This last game was the first time that they had a full roster, and one could feel the difference.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Srt8bigm on September 27, 2016, 09:58:09 PM
Definitely thought the Wave vs. Ducks(2) was gonna be tighter.  The Wave struggled putting the puck in the net during the two preseason games, despite out-shooting both opponents.  They seemed to figure things out yesterday, against a Ducks team that may have just under-performed.


Not surprised about the Bears vs. OC(2) score though, I think there's a decent talent gap there.


Bears team will be a difficult team to beat for most teams in bantam AA including the top teams. For the OC2 team they loss 4 players already,  3 defenseman and 1 forward, that definitely didn't help. Ether way the bears team was good and impressive to watch, they will be tough to beat.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: 1hockeydad on September 27, 2016, 10:33:27 PM
Definitely thought the Wave vs. Ducks(2) was gonna be tighter.  The Wave struggled putting the puck in the net during the two preseason games, despite out-shooting both opponents.  They seemed to figure things out yesterday, against a Ducks team that may have just under-performed.


Not surprised about the Bears vs. OC(2) score though, I think there's a decent talent gap there.


Bears team will be a difficult team to beat for most teams in bantam AA including the top teams. For the OC2 team they loss 4 players already,  3 defenseman and 1 forward, that definitely didn't help. Ether way the bears team was good and impressive to watch, they will be tough to beat.

Lost players?  What has happened?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: orangecone on September 28, 2016, 07:57:32 AM
Lost one to prep school and the rest are hurt. I would say the Bears are the most skilled team in Bantam AA that i've seen. OC2 is an 03 team with 2 02's.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: goonhockey on September 28, 2016, 10:42:33 AM
some NorCal scores available, albeit exhibitions: http://ncyh.com/Schedules.html


combined with the scores down South, including preseason and a bit of CAHA, any rankings ahead of the first "weekend"?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: The Hun on September 28, 2016, 05:03:58 PM

Bears team will be a difficult team to beat for most teams in bantam AA including the top teams. Ether way the bears team was good and impressive to watch, they will be tough to beat.


Yes. that's what I've heard.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on October 03, 2016, 10:22:02 AM
So how did teams do this weekend? Why are scores not being posted?

Ducks 1 beat Wildcats 14-0

Flyers over Gulls 8-2

Any other scores?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Crash on October 03, 2016, 11:27:15 AM
AA Jr. Kings beat  AA Mariners 4-1. Closer game than that looks but Kings had very good goaltending.

WAVE 3 beat A Mariners 15-0. I think the GF is now 54 and the GA is 1 after four games. Next Sunday Bears A which should be more competitive.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: BlindZebras on October 03, 2016, 11:47:29 AM
Wave AA 7 vs. Saints 1
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: 1hockeydad on October 03, 2016, 10:39:44 PM
AA Jr. Kings beat  AA Mariners 4-1. Closer game than that looks but Kings had very good goaltending.

WAVE 3 beat A Mariners 15-0. I think the GF is now 54 and the GA is 1 after four games. Next Sunday Bears A which should be more competitive.

Seems like JK v Mariners score was fair.  JK AA also apparently spent a lot of time on the PK, including killing a 3 on 5
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Crash on October 04, 2016, 05:55:17 AM
Yes always impressive. I forgot that. And it builds confidence.


Mariners had a PP late w about 3-4 min left I though they might pull the goalie and go 6-4 but they didn't. Not sure what the point of coaching conservatively is in that situation.


In the short tournaments when goal differential is huge maybe, but this weekend? I would have.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Panther Coach on October 04, 2016, 10:09:09 AM
Anyone catch the JD2 vs OC2 score?  Seems to be the only one missing from last week.  Just curious
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on October 07, 2016, 01:31:31 PM
Schedule is out and AA only plays 12 games this year plus a CAHA weekend. What a ripoff  :(
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: lcadad on October 07, 2016, 02:03:33 PM
Schedule is out and AA only plays 12 games this year plus a CAHA weekend. What a ripoff  :(


Crazy.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Panther Coach on October 07, 2016, 02:06:10 PM
Schedule is out and AA only plays 12 games this year plus a CAHA weekend. What a ripoff  :(


Crazy.

The funny thing they changed the format from last year to reduce travel and we are just going to play more tournaments to make up for the reduced games.  Still traveling
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on October 07, 2016, 02:13:28 PM
Schedule is out and AA only plays 12 games this year plus a CAHA weekend. What a ripoff  :(


Crazy.

The funny thing they changed the format from last year to reduce travel and we are just going to play more tournaments to make up for the reduced games.  Still traveling

I guess they just want to push everything to High school.  :-\
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: rosetta on October 07, 2016, 02:21:39 PM
Schedule is out and AA only plays 12 games this year plus a CAHA weekend. What a ripoff  :(

At least our club due this year is a lot cheaper, right?  ;)
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Handboni on October 07, 2016, 02:28:06 PM
Schedule is out and AA only plays 12 games this year plus a CAHA weekend. What a ripoff  :(


Crazy.

The funny thing they changed the format from last year to reduce travel and we are just going to play more tournaments to make up for the reduced games.  Still traveling


Feels like a AAA schedule.  Play the CAHA teams 3x's each, and go to tournaments.  Based on the new look AA, if the kid is good enough, AAA seems like a better option.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on October 07, 2016, 02:41:47 PM
Schedule is out and AA only plays 12 games this year plus a CAHA weekend. What a ripoff  :(

At least our club due this year is a lot cheaper, right?  ;)

Right! Good point. lol
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Puck Yeah on October 07, 2016, 07:18:26 PM
Schedule is out and AA only plays 12 games this year plus a CAHA weekend. What a ripoff  :(

So, squirt A has more games than Bantam AA.....
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: 1hockeydad on October 08, 2016, 12:16:34 AM
Schedule is out and AA only plays 12 games this year plus a CAHA weekend. What a ripoff  :(

So, squirt A has more games than Bantam AA.....

Freaking pathetic
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Puck Yeah on October 08, 2016, 10:15:09 AM
Schedule is out and AA only plays 12 games this year plus a CAHA weekend. What a ripoff  :(

So, squirt A has more games than Bantam AA.....

Freaking pathetic


I have sent off a very respectful letter to all the board members and suggest that everyone that is concerned about the lack of games do the same thing.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Crash on October 08, 2016, 12:01:30 PM
I just checked, the Bantam "A" schedule is 16 games.


Why would they not match?


Last year Pee Wee we were in Québec for 2 weeks and change, so maybe they are blocking time for something like that?


And is it always announced so late? Maybe they knew peeps would complain, so they left it too late to change.


Trust no one.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on October 08, 2016, 02:19:49 PM
Schedule is out and AA only plays 12 games this year plus a CAHA weekend. What a ripoff  :(

So, squirt A has more games than Bantam AA.....

Freaking pathetic


I have sent off a very respectful letter to all the board members and suggest that everyone that is concerned about the lack of games do the same thing.


Thanks!
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Puck Yeah on October 08, 2016, 02:49:06 PM
CAHA is suggesting if you are unhappy with the current AA schedule you should contact CAHA, SCAHA, and the commissioners and make them aware. 
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on October 08, 2016, 03:08:15 PM
CAHA is suggesting if you are unhappy with the current AA schedule you should contact CAHA, SCAHA, and the commissioners and make them aware.


Can you post email address

Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Landshark on October 08, 2016, 05:27:16 PM
I received a polite response telling me that people has been complaining about Caha weekends for many years and this was their solution. I responded that taking games off the schedule might not be the best way to raise the level of competition in socal.   
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on October 08, 2016, 07:28:52 PM
I received a polite response telling me that people has been complaining about Caha weekends for many years and this was their solution. I responded that taking games off the schedule might not be the best way to raise the level of competition in socal.


Exactly!!!
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Puck Yeah on October 08, 2016, 08:06:16 PM
We need to press SCAHA to schedule exhibition games to make up the difference.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on October 08, 2016, 08:08:16 PM
We need to press SCAHA to schedule exhibition games to make up the difference.


Maybe they can fill some of those long gaps in the schedule.

Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: goonhockey on October 09, 2016, 09:33:07 PM
well, first "weekend" is officially in the books.  anyone care to provide some updated rankings?  looks like our SD friends took a few on the chin and looks like the 02 sharks are the real deal...
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on October 09, 2016, 09:39:11 PM
well, first "weekend" is officially in the books.  anyone care to provide some updated rankings?  looks like our SD friends took a few on the chin and looks like the 02 sharks are the real deal...


Sharks and Bears are my top two.


The next mix looks like
Ducks 1
GSE2
OC1
Blackhawks
Wave


That's my top 7 today.

Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Panther Coach on October 09, 2016, 09:57:52 PM
With the new schedule and less games than teams, the Bears don't even play OC1 or Ducks 1 in the regular season. Although a few months back both teams beat the Bears Memorial Day. For me the Bears have more to prove this early since they didn't play the IHE tournament with the rest of the top teams. They are good but small
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on October 09, 2016, 10:10:38 PM
With the new schedule and less games than teams, the Bears don't even play OC1 or Ducks 1 in the regular season. Although a few months back both teams beat the Bears Memorial Day. For me the Bears have more to prove this early since they didn't play the IHE tournament with the rest of the top teams. They are good but small


You do know that the Bears spring team wasn't as loaded as there team now right? Also you are not correct they play The Ducks and OC as part of their 12 games.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: 1hockeydad on October 09, 2016, 10:26:47 PM
well, first "weekend" is officially in the books.  anyone care to provide some updated rankings?  looks like our SD friends took a few on the chin and looks like the 02 sharks are the real deal...

You do know SJ1 was the Bantam Minor AAA team from last year minus 2 that went to St. Louis Jr Blues and 1 to SJ U16 AAA?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on October 09, 2016, 10:42:39 PM
well, first "weekend" is officially in the books.  anyone care to provide some updated rankings?  looks like our SD friends took a few on the chin and looks like the 02 sharks are the real deal...

You do know SJ1 was the Bantam Minor AAA team from last year minus 2 that went to St. Louis Jr Blues and 1 to SJ U16 AAA?


I didn't realize that, thanks for the info. They look like the top dogs.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Panther Coach on October 10, 2016, 07:12:18 AM
With the new schedule and less games than teams, the Bears don't even play OC1 or Ducks 1 in the regular season. Although a few months back both teams beat the Bears Memorial Day. For me the Bears have more to prove this early since they didn't play the IHE tournament with the rest of the top teams. They are good but small


You do know that the Bears spring team wasn't as loaded as there team now right? Also you are not correct they play The Ducks and OC as part of their 12 games.


I don't see on the CAHA schedule where they play these teams but it looks like 10 games are scheduled and maybe the 2 remaining are them.  I also get that Spring teams change.  Both OC and Ducks teams changed a couple of players as well.  All I am saying is they haven't played any of the top teams yet and blowing out low end AA to A teams is not a good measure.  The Bears AA last year was not very strong in the AA division and while I get adding the 03's from their AAA program will help I don't see it that much.  Look at the AAA Gulls at IHE playing AA Labor Day. 
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Puck Yeah on October 10, 2016, 07:42:11 AM
The Bears will be a top team this year.  Plenty of talent and good coaching.  According to some sources they are ranked #14!   ;)


They beat the Jr. Flyers yesterday in a game that was close for 2 periods and then finished 9-4.  Flyers down one strong player and the 03 goalie in net.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: goonhockey on October 10, 2016, 08:20:24 AM
defense wins championships - and by my estimation, they have surrendered 6 goals in 2 CAHA games against mid to weak opponents while others are posting shutouts.

just saying...
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on October 10, 2016, 08:25:27 AM
With the new schedule and less games than teams, the Bears don't even play OC1 or Ducks 1 in the regular season. Although a few months back both teams beat the Bears Memorial Day. For me the Bears have more to prove this early since they didn't play the IHE tournament with the rest of the top teams. They are good but small


You do know that the Bears spring team wasn't as loaded as there team now right? Also you are not correct they play The Ducks and OC as part of their 12 games.





I don't see on the CAHA schedule where they play these teams but it looks like 10 games are scheduled and maybe the 2 remaining are them.  I also get that Spring teams change.  Both OC and Ducks teams changed a couple of players as well.  All I am saying is they haven't played any of the top teams yet and blowing out low end AA to A teams is not a good measure.  The Bears AA last year was not very strong in the AA division and while I get adding the 03's from their AAA program will help I don't see it that much.  Look at the AAA Gulls at IHE playing AA Labor Day.


It's on the SCAHA schedule.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Teahupoo on October 10, 2016, 08:28:30 AM
we will find out if the bears are the real deal on Nov 6th when they play OC1. History has shown they do not like to get hit. and I do not want to hear any excuses about having two games on that day.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Panther Coach on October 10, 2016, 08:34:26 AM
With the new schedule and less games than teams, the Bears don't even play OC1 or Ducks 1 in the regular season. Although a few months back both teams beat the Bears Memorial Day. For me the Bears have more to prove this early since they didn't play the IHE tournament with the rest of the top teams. They are good but small


You do know that the Bears spring team wasn't as loaded as there team now right? Also you are not correct they play The Ducks and OC as part of their 12 games.





I don't see on the CAHA schedule where they play these teams but it looks like 10 games are scheduled and maybe the 2 remaining are them.  I also get that Spring teams change.  Both OC and Ducks teams changed a couple of players as well.  All I am saying is they haven't played any of the top teams yet and blowing out low end AA to A teams is not a good measure.  The Bears AA last year was not very strong in the AA division and while I get adding the 03's from their AAA program will help I don't see it that much.  Look at the AAA Gulls at IHE playing AA Labor Day.


It's on the SCAHA schedule.

Got it.  Thanks.  I don't know why they can't get the 2 to match and it would be nice to see the NorCal games on the CAHA website not just weekends
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on October 10, 2016, 08:38:55 AM
With the new schedule and less games than teams, the Bears don't even play OC1 or Ducks 1 in the regular season. Although a few months back both teams beat the Bears Memorial Day. For me the Bears have more to prove this early since they didn't play the IHE tournament with the rest of the top teams. They are good but small


You do know that the Bears spring team wasn't as loaded as there team now right? Also you are not correct they play The Ducks and OC as part of their 12 games.





I don't see on the CAHA schedule where they play these teams but it looks like 10 games are scheduled and maybe the 2 remaining are them.  I also get that Spring teams change.  Both OC and Ducks teams changed a couple of players as well.  All I am saying is they haven't played any of the top teams yet and blowing out low end AA to A teams is not a good measure.  The Bears AA last year was not very strong in the AA division and while I get adding the 03's from their AAA program will help I don't see it that much.  Look at the AAA Gulls at IHE playing AA Labor Day.


It's on the SCAHA schedule.

Got it.  Thanks.  I don't know why they can't get the 2 to match and it would be nice to see the NorCal games on the CAHA website not just weekends


Totally, things are so messed up this year. Wave drop a bit in the rankings getting killed 5-0 by Ducks 1
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: area51 on October 10, 2016, 09:24:09 AM
Last year Bantam AA played 12 games on the SCAHA schedule, this year it's 14 games (12 reg/2 pre) CAHA weekends are similiar to doing a tournament, you still have to pay to play in them. Pick up a couple more tournaments and the cost will end up being the same.
My son's Peewee AA team will be pushing 70 games counting playdowns, and we're taking XMas break off.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: rosetta on October 10, 2016, 09:35:09 AM
Last year Bantam AA played 12 games on the SCAHA schedule, this year it's 14 games (12 reg/2 pre) CAHA weekends are similiar to doing a tournament, you still have to pay to play in them. Pick up a couple more tournaments and the cost will end up being the same.
My son's Peewee AA team will be pushing 70 games counting playdowns, and we're taking XMas break off.

In Bantam AA, there will be about 20 league games including pre-season (CAHA and SCAHA). Add 5 games in playdown if you go all the way. Where are you guy getting the other 45 games? That's about 10 tournaments.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on October 10, 2016, 09:57:41 AM
Totally, things are so messed up this year. Wave drop a bit in the rankings getting killed 5-0 by Ducks 1
While I wouldn't coin the phrase "killed 5-0", I must admit that the Wave did look out of their element against a bigger, stronger, and more seasoned team. (disclaimer: I am a Wave parent)  The Ducks played more physical and the Wave paid for it, although the Ducks spent more time in the box.  One silver lining was how the Ducks defense got exposed on several occasions that led to 2-on-1 and 1-on-0 situations.  If not for the exceptional play of their goalie it may not have ended in a shut out.  The Ducks did put tremendous pressure in the offensive zone which lead to those scoring chances but the Wave were unable to capitalize.  Maybe against a bigger team the Ducks will play a bit more conservative on D, and maybe the Wave will improve on putting the puck in the net when the opportunity presents itself.  The Ducks won a game they should have, but saying the Wave got killed is a bit of an overstatement, IMO.  Hopefully they will see each other again as the learning experience benefits the Wave more than the Ducks.


Yes killed is way too strong good point. 5-0 is dominated though.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: area51 on October 10, 2016, 10:05:00 AM
Last year Bantam AA played 12 games on the SCAHA schedule, this year it's 14 games (12 reg/2 pre) CAHA weekends are similiar to doing a tournament, you still have to pay to play in them. Pick up a couple more tournaments and the cost will end up being the same.
My son's Peewee AA team will be pushing 70 games counting playdowns, and we're taking XMas break off.

In Bantam AA, there will be about 20 league games including pre-season (CAHA and SCAHA). Add 5 games in playdown if you go all the way. Where are you guy getting the other 45 games? That's about 10 tournaments.
CAHA/SCAHA 18 games, five tournaments 25 games minimum, scrimmage games 20 (already have 10), playdowns 4 games = 67 games.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Teahupoo on October 10, 2016, 10:19:31 AM
Totally, things are so messed up this year. Wave drop a bit in the rankings getting killed 5-0 by Ducks 1
While I wouldn't coin the phrase "killed 5-0", I must admit that the Wave did look out of their element against a bigger, stronger, and more seasoned team. (disclaimer: I am a Wave parent)  The Ducks played more physical and the Wave paid for it, although the Ducks spent more time in the box.  One silver lining was how the Ducks defense got exposed on several occasions that led to 2-on-1 and 1-on-0 situations.  If not for the exceptional play of their goalie it may not have ended in a shut out.  The Ducks did put tremendous pressure in the offensive zone which lead to those scoring chances but the Wave were unable to capitalize.  Maybe against a bigger team the Ducks will play a bit more conservative on D, and maybe the Wave will improve on putting the puck in the net when the opportunity presents itself.  The Ducks won a game they should have, but saying the Wave got killed is a bit of an overstatement, IMO.  Hopefully they will see each other again as the learning experience benefits the Wave more than the Ducks.

it's your story, spin it whatever way you want to. What I saw was an ass kicking. when you can't score on a 5 on 3 power play and then get scored on in the same 2 man advantage, that's an ass kicking. the wave had no answer for the Ducks size and speed, although they are not a highly skilled team, they have 4 big solid lines that come in waves( excuse the pun) at you and will be tough for even the top teams to deal with, just ask OC1. they have lost to them 3 times this year already. the breakways were a self inflicted wound. it was the same knuckle head d-man who got all the penalty and was one of the ones that kept jumping up and giving the breakaways. that can be corrected by benching him, since they have 6 competent d-men.
btw, you are correct, the goalie is awesome and last I checked a goalie is part of the team and having a good goalie does cover up your flaws, just ask the LA Kings.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Handboni on October 10, 2016, 10:45:35 AM
well, first "weekend" is officially in the books.  anyone care to provide some updated rankings?  looks like our SD friends took a few on the chin and looks like the 02 sharks are the real deal...

You do know SJ1 was the Bantam Minor AAA team from last year minus 2 that went to St. Louis Jr Blues and 1 to SJ U16 AAA?

SJ goalie also left.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Crash on October 10, 2016, 11:23:12 AM
Well, you can't have your rhetorical sandwich both ways. If the Ducks are THAT good, then why didn't they win by more?

SOG give a lot of context. I'm not a complete analytics nut, and we shouldn't be at this level, but to fairly weigh two teams against each other accurately you need to consider a lot of factors and watch the game.

We played a game this year, maybe a scrimmage, where the other team had ZERO shots. Maybe 1. That's KILLING. Also it's a season, not a short tournament. Teams play each other the first time, the next time, there are adjustments on both sides.

Hockey is interesting because there are a lot of variables. Reaching into the hyperbole basket this early in the year just makes you look like a rookie, which is fine too, just don't expect to be taken seriously.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: 1hockeydad on October 10, 2016, 12:10:11 PM
well, first "weekend" is officially in the books.  anyone care to provide some updated rankings?  looks like our SD friends took a few on the chin and looks like the 02 sharks are the real deal...

You do know SJ1 was the Bantam Minor AAA team from last year minus 2 that went to St. Louis Jr Blues and 1 to SJ U16 AAA?

SJ goalie also left.

Yes, correct.  On JD 02 AAA.   Crazy. It is a shame for JS that the AA1 team couldn't stay Tier 1.  Good group of players.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Tripod on October 10, 2016, 03:33:19 PM
well, first "weekend" is officially in the books.  anyone care to provide some updated rankings?  looks like our SD friends took a few on the chin and looks like the 02 sharks are the real deal...

You do know SJ1 was the Bantam Minor AAA team from last year minus 2 that went to St. Louis Jr Blues and 1 to SJ U16 AAA?

SJ goalie also left.

Yes, correct.  On JD 02 AAA.   Crazy. It is a shame for JS that the AA1 team couldn't stay Tier 1.  Good group of players.

I would even argue they are the hardest working Bantam team.  They just are not quite as big as the other teams.  There are AAA teams and then there are AAA teams willing to fly around everywhere to play in "showcase" tournaments.  In last years bantam minor playoffs, I believe they finished 3rd, ahead of the wave and kings.  In bantam major this year, I think they could have been competitive with the Gulls, 02 and 03 Kings.  But you have those players who are looking at a bigger arena than just California. 
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: KickSave on October 12, 2016, 09:48:45 AM
So why the drop to AA?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Tripod on October 12, 2016, 11:02:54 AM
I would assume that the parents/players would prefer to be at the top of AA than in the middle of AAA.

I would say the same for AA teams from GSE, Ducks.

I don't think the travel is all that different between AA and AAA (for the in state games, anyways).  Last year, we travelled to San Jose and got all our league games against the Sharks over a single weekend.  The difference is when you have a collection of parents/players who want to travel all over the continental US and the 10 provinces to attend "showcase" tournaments where no CA AAA team can really crack the top 20. 
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Teahupoo on October 12, 2016, 11:14:18 AM
they call themselves the Sharks 14AA national, so I am assuming that they dropped to compete in the AA nationals.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: PutYourFootOnTheGas on October 12, 2016, 12:41:23 PM
SJ AA National team is good but the lopsided scores at first CAHA weekend have more to do with how BAD the Saints, Oilers, Gulls and Kings are. The GSE team and Santa Clara teams were also blowing them out. Let's see how they do against Ducks, OC and Bears.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: 1hockeydad on October 12, 2016, 01:23:30 PM
SJ AA National team is good but the lopsided scores at first CAHA weekend have more to do with how BAD the Saints, Oilers, Gulls and Kings are. The GSE team and Santa Clara teams were also blowing them out. Let's see how they do against Ducks, OC and Bears.
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Don't know if all those teams are "bad"  as much as SJ1 and GSE2 are almost all 02 birth year teams.  Same for JD1.  Teams with mostly 03 will tend to struggle against bigger, faster kids that can be close to 2 years older.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: dustydad on October 14, 2016, 12:33:22 PM
SJ AA National team is good but the lopsided scores at first CAHA weekend have more to do with how BAD the Saints, Oilers, Gulls and Kings are. The GSE team and Santa Clara teams were also blowing them out. Let's see how they do against Ducks, OC and Bears.

Take a look at the current CAHA standings after only 3 games. The top 5-6 teams are dominating, it's not just the SJ AA national team. But you're right, it'll be interesting to see SJ1 and GSE1 play the Ducks1 and Bears.

I wouldn't call those lower teams BAD. The challenge is that they're not A teams (just like the Artesia Wave move-down) so playing AA is appropriate, but they don't have enough players with size and skill so they will struggle against the bigger and better teams. It's the same issue with the top AA teams - they're good and could probably play AAA, but they're still not refined enough relative to the stronger AAA teams so AA is appropriate for them. Though if the SJ national team continues to have double digit shutouts, then I'll change my mind and say they should have moved up!
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Handboni on October 14, 2016, 06:22:09 PM
SJ AA National team is good but the lopsided scores at first CAHA weekend have more to do with how BAD the Saints, Oilers, Gulls and Kings are. The GSE team and Santa Clara teams were also blowing them out. Let's see how they do against Ducks, OC and Bears.

Take a look at the current CAHA standings after only 3 games. The top 5-6 teams are dominating, it's not just the SJ AA national team. But you're right, it'll be interesting to see SJ1 and GSE1 play the Ducks1 and Bears.

I wouldn't call those lower teams BAD. The challenge is that they're not A teams (just like the Artesia Wave move-down) so playing AA is appropriate, but they don't have enough players with size and skill so they will struggle against the bigger and better teams. It's the same issue with the top AA teams - they're good and could probably play AAA, but they're still not refined enough relative to the stronger AAA teams so AA is appropriate for them. Though if the SJ national team continues to have double digit shutouts, then I'll change my mind and say they should have moved up!


There was a previous discussion on the Midget board about how the 02 AAA JD dominated one of the top Midget AA teams. Based on that, I doubt any of the AA Bantam teams could be competitive in AAA.  The SJ National team lost some of their best players, so would be challenging for them also.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: 1hockeydad on October 14, 2016, 11:18:58 PM
SJ AA National team is good but the lopsided scores at first CAHA weekend have more to do with how BAD the Saints, Oilers, Gulls and Kings are. The GSE team and Santa Clara teams were also blowing them out. Let's see how they do against Ducks, OC and Bears.

Take a look at the current CAHA standings after only 3 games. The top 5-6 teams are dominating, it's not just the SJ AA national team. But you're right, it'll be interesting to see SJ1 and GSE1 play the Ducks1 and Bears.

I wouldn't call those lower teams BAD. The challenge is that they're not A teams (just like the Artesia Wave move-down) so playing AA is appropriate, but they don't have enough players with size and skill so they will struggle against the bigger and better teams. It's the same issue with the top AA teams - they're good and could probably play AAA, but they're still not refined enough relative to the stronger AAA teams so AA is appropriate for them. Though if the SJ national team continues to have double digit shutouts, then I'll change my mind and say they should have moved up!


There was a previous discussion on the Midget board about how the 02 AAA JD dominated one of the top Midget AA teams. Based on that, I doubt any of the AA Bantam teams could be competitive in AAA.  The SJ National team lost some of their best players, so would be challenging for them also.

I have seen good  AAA teams.  From what I have observed, JS1 and GSE2 could hang in at AAA level.  So could JD1.  Bears are on the cusp.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Handboni on October 15, 2016, 06:59:45 AM

[quote author=1hockeydad link=topic=3209.msg38542#msg38542 date=1476512338

I have seen good  AAA teams.  From what I have observed, JS1 and GSE2 could hang in at AAA level.  So could JD1.  Bears are on the cusp.
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Bears played 2015 Carmen Star in the AAA division and were not competitive.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on October 16, 2016, 05:35:03 PM
Any scores from today?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Crash on October 16, 2016, 07:48:15 PM
Bears AA 12
Kings AA 0

Someone posted for another age group that there was a big power outage in San Diego, many games cancelled. Don't know if it was rink or area, but a huge drag for all concerned.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: 1hockeydad on October 18, 2016, 12:26:37 AM
Bears AA 12
Kings AA 0

Someone posted for another age group that there was a big power outage in San Diego, many games cancelled. Don't know if it was rink or area, but a huge drag for all concerned.

Not much, but Bears v Kings was 11 -0.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Xfactor_56 on October 18, 2016, 08:54:24 AM
Bears AA 12
Kings AA 0

Not much, but Bears v Kings was 11 -0.

Thanks for clarifying  ;D
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: 1hockeydad on October 18, 2016, 04:54:21 PM
Bears AA 12
Kings AA 0

Not much, but Bears v Kings was 11 -0.

Thanks for clarifying  ;D

And still, ouch.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: goonhockey on October 21, 2016, 10:45:27 AM
a couple 3-0 teams square off in an x-game tomorrow morning - GSE NORTH coming down to play the BEARS.


any predictions?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Crash on October 21, 2016, 12:02:22 PM
GSE AA (Not sure if 1 or 2) play WAVE 3 Saturday Night here @ KHS, then WAVE 3 play Saints A Sunday afternoon in San Diego.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: goonhockey on October 21, 2016, 12:30:20 PM
must be the same GSE NORTH (GSE2) team down here for a exhibition weekend...
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on October 21, 2016, 01:16:33 PM
a couple 3-0 teams square off in an x-game tomorrow morning - GSE NORTH coming down to play the BEARS.


any predictions?

Bears by 5
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: 1hockeydad on October 21, 2016, 07:38:22 PM
a couple 3-0 teams square off in an x-game tomorrow morning - GSE NORTH coming down to play the BEARS.


any predictions?

Bears by 5

If it is GSE 2, it will be interesting and close.  GSE2 is bigger.  Physical team, but quick.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Stark on October 21, 2016, 08:58:59 PM
Sat
10/22/16
7:50 AM
Burbank
134XG1/X
Burbank Golden Bears Ban AA
Golden State Ban AA2
Sat
10/22/16
8:10 PM
Anaheim KHS
134XT1/X
Cal Wave Ban A
Golden State Ban AA2
Sun
10/23/16
11:35 AM
Anaheim
135XK1/X
Anaheim Jr Ducks Ban AAA
Golden State Ban AA2
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: goonhockey on October 21, 2016, 09:26:14 PM
are they playing the 02 ducks? or 03 ducks?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: PutYourFootOnTheGas on October 22, 2016, 09:27:28 AM
GSE 2 beat the Bears 6-3 this morning.


They are playing the '03 AAA Ducks tomorrow after the 3 games today. Quite the trip.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: goonhockey on October 22, 2016, 10:05:22 AM
does that end the BEARS as contenders talk? losing at home sounds more like pretender...
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: MO-ICETIME on October 22, 2016, 11:58:41 AM
does that end the BEARS as contenders talk? losing at home sounds more like pretender...

That was a fun game to watch.. GSE got 2 empty net goals and the Bears out shot them as well.... GSE was big and FAST!! Sounds a bit too early to be calling them "pretenders"....
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Teahupoo on October 22, 2016, 02:55:54 PM
GSE had a better team called GSE elite in labor day tournament and the ducks beat them handedly , so I think  calling the bears pretenders is appropriate.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Puck Yeah on October 22, 2016, 03:04:43 PM
Man, you guys are vicious..... :)
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: goonhockey on October 22, 2016, 03:37:00 PM
the gse team at labor day was the SOUTH (GSE1), unless I'm mistaken. they are the worse of the two...
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: 1hockeydad on October 22, 2016, 03:42:27 PM
the gse team at labor day was the SOUTH (GSE1), unless I'm mistaken. they are the worse of the two...

Yes.  That was GSE1.  They are good too, but GSE2 is just solid, and an 02 team.  GSE1 is mix of 03 and 02.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: goonhockey on October 22, 2016, 04:26:57 PM
still, bears might not be the darling everyone thinks they are. will be curious to see how they do against the ducks...
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: MO-ICETIME on October 22, 2016, 05:29:18 PM
Man, you guys are vicious..... :)


Sounds like haters actually!  LOL!
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Stark on October 23, 2016, 01:52:13 AM
Wow!

(https://s21.postimg.org/fuuexugxj/image.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/lj0poql9v/)
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Panther Coach on October 23, 2016, 11:52:23 AM
Wow!

(https://s21.postimg.org/fuuexugxj/image.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/lj0poql9v/)



Which Wave 1 team did they play?  A or AA?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: nzone on October 23, 2016, 02:20:54 PM
Wave1 AA (Ont) ..... Wave3 A (Art)
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Stark on October 23, 2016, 02:55:38 PM
GSE Bantam AA North Update -

(https://s17.postimg.org/bf8vonp8f/Capture2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/7ivjso48r/)
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Panther Coach on October 23, 2016, 06:04:32 PM
GSE Bantam AA North Update -

(https://s17.postimg.org/bf8vonp8f/Capture2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/7ivjso48r/)



Impressive. Nice work GSE
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: 1hockeydad on October 23, 2016, 07:46:47 PM
GSE2 is a very good team.  Big and fast.   Not surprised they had such a good showing.  I do see that good AA teams are 02 majority and have been well coached.  "Bad" AA teams are mostly 03 kids, and need coaching.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Crash on October 23, 2016, 09:10:11 PM
WAVE 3 lost to Golden State last night 3-1

WAVE 3 beat Saints A this afternoon 9-0, both Saints' goalies were excellent as shots were 76-6

Saints AA beat Kings AA 3-0 on an empty netter and an own goal.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Handboni on October 23, 2016, 11:00:26 PM

WAVE 3 beat Saints A this afternoon 9-0, both Saints' goalies were excellent as shots were 76-6

Wave 3 needs to work on their shooting if they only converted 9 of 76 shots.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Puck Yeah on October 24, 2016, 08:08:49 AM
I wonder if the Bears game and score is going to make to My Hockey Rankings.  Bears are ranked much higher than GSE.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on October 24, 2016, 08:36:49 AM
I wonder if the Bears game and score is going to make to My Hockey Rankings.  Bears are ranked much higher than GSE.

It will only take one of those teams putting it in to effect them. I assume GSE will add it.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: rosetta on October 24, 2016, 09:21:03 AM
GSE Bantam AA North Update -

(https://s17.postimg.org/bf8vonp8f/Capture2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/7ivjso48r/)

There is basically no separation for the four SoCal teams in three difference divisions (A/AA/AAA). Interesting. :)
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: KickSave on October 24, 2016, 09:26:05 AM
Except they played the A team as third game of the day...
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Handboni on October 24, 2016, 09:45:32 AM
And it was an 03 AAA team, not an 02.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Detroit Hockey Life on October 24, 2016, 10:02:17 AM
Anybody hear if Anaheim Ice got things reparied? 4:00pm game cancelled on both sheets due to melt down yesturday. OC1 vs Ducks2 cancelled.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: goonhockey on October 24, 2016, 11:29:30 AM
so, revised rankings?


i think everyone can agree that these are currently the top 3 teams, with sharks the top and ducks (slightly) ahead of gse, maybe -
sharks 1(2002)
ducks 1 (2002)
gse 2 (north)


the next grouping is a relative crapshoot at this point -
bears
wave
flyers
blackhawks
oc 1 (2002)


can probably group these together -
gse 1 (south)
ducks 2 (2003)
kings
sdia


and then the rest -
sharks 2
oc 2 (2003)
gulls
mariners
saints
wildcats


placement among the groupings can shift a bit, but hard to justify, for now, that anyone should move up or down a group...

Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Panther Coach on October 24, 2016, 11:33:10 AM
I would still have OC1 among the top group and no my kid does not play for them.  That team has the talent and compete level to win on any day.  Just saying
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: goonhockey on October 24, 2016, 11:40:52 AM
that's probably fair, just looked at their scores again...
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Panther Coach on October 24, 2016, 11:43:21 AM
that's probably fair, just looked at their scores again...


They made it to the final at Labor Day as well.  My prediction is they will beat the Bears and GSE North.  We will see on the Sharks.  They haven't played any teams they should blow out that I have seen.  Lakewood in a few weeks will be good with the Ducks playing both GSE and the Sharks.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on October 24, 2016, 12:00:38 PM
so, revised rankings?


i think everyone can agree that these are currently the top 3 teams, with sharks the top and ducks (slightly) ahead of gse, maybe -
sharks 1(2002)
ducks 1 (2002)
gse 2 (north)


the next grouping is a relative crapshoot at this point -
bears
wave
flyers
blackhawks
oc 1 (2002)


can probably group these together -
gse 1 (south)
ducks 2 (2003)
kings
sdia


and then the rest -
sharks 2
oc 2 (2003)
gulls
mariners
saints
wildcats


placement among the groupings can shift a bit, but hard to justify, for now, that anyone should move up or down a group...

I would say I agree with the top 8.
Sharks
Ducks1
GSE 2
Bears
OC1
a cut above the next group

Wave
Flyers
Blackhawks
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: rosetta on October 24, 2016, 12:18:50 PM
I will be surprised if flyers end up in top 8. They have had a very soft schedule so far.

so, revised rankings?


i think everyone can agree that these are currently the top 3 teams, with sharks the top and ducks (slightly) ahead of gse, maybe -
sharks 1(2002)
ducks 1 (2002)
gse 2 (north)


the next grouping is a relative crapshoot at this point -
bears
wave
flyers
blackhawks
oc 1 (2002)


can probably group these together -
gse 1 (south)
ducks 2 (2003)
kings
sdia


and then the rest -
sharks 2
oc 2 (2003)
gulls
mariners
saints
wildcats


placement among the groupings can shift a bit, but hard to justify, for now, that anyone should move up or down a group...
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on October 24, 2016, 01:06:08 PM
I will be surprised if flyers end up in top 8. They have had a very soft schedule so far.

so, revised rankings?


i think everyone can agree that these are currently the top 3 teams, with sharks the top and ducks (slightly) ahead of gse, maybe -
sharks 1(2002)
ducks 1 (2002)
gse 2 (north)


the next grouping is a relative crapshoot at this point -
bears
wave
flyers
blackhawks
oc 1 (2002)


can probably group these together -
gse 1 (south)
ducks 2 (2003)
kings
sdia


and then the rest -
sharks 2
oc 2 (2003)
gulls
mariners
saints
wildcats


placement among the groupings can shift a bit, but hard to justify, for now, that anyone should move up or down a group...

So who has hard a hard schedule out of the second tier teams? If not Flyers who do you have jumping into the top eight?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Puck Yeah on October 24, 2016, 02:05:08 PM
It is funny how we all look at the same stats and conclude completely different rankings.


There is an argument that OC1 should be ranked higher and also Flyers won't make the top 8.  Preseason OC1 5 vs Flyers 3.   That would seem to indicate either that OC1 is weaker or Flyers are stronger but it can't mean both, can it?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: rosetta on October 24, 2016, 02:23:13 PM
You have a good point. Sorry I didn't want this to sound like a personal attack on the flyers. Guess what I mean is I agree with the choice of the other top 7 teams, but not convinced on the 8th spot.

Other than the loss to Bears, Flyers won four games against teams combined to win 1, tie 3 out of 23 league games. 2 of the ties were between Saints and Mariners themselves. 4 of the 5 games were home for flyers.

I will be surprised if flyers end up in top 8. They have had a very soft schedule so far.


So who has hard a hard schedule out of the second tier teams? If not Flyers who do you have jumping into the top eight?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on October 24, 2016, 02:33:04 PM
You have a good point. Sorry I didn't want this to sound like a personal attack on the flyers. Guess what I mean is I agree with the choice of the other top 7 teams, but not convinced on the 8th spot.

Other than the loss to Bears, Flyers won four games against teams combined to win 1, tie 3 out of 23 league games. 2 of the ties were between Saints and Mariners themselves. 4 of the 5 games were home for flyers.

I will be surprised if flyers end up in top 8. They have had a very soft schedule so far.


So who has hard a hard schedule out of the second tier teams? If not Flyers who do you have jumping into the top eight?

I agree there will be 4 teams fighting for the 8th seed.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Puck Yeah on October 24, 2016, 02:37:42 PM
You have a good point. Sorry I didn't want this to sound like a personal attack on the flyers. Guess what I mean is I agree with the choice of the other top 7 teams, but not convinced on the 8th spot.

Other than the loss to Bears, Flyers won four games against teams combined to win 1, tie 3 out of 23 league games. 2 of the ties were between Saints and Mariners themselves. 4 of the 5 games were home for flyers.

I will be surprised if flyers end up in top 8. They have had a very soft schedule so far.


So who has hard a hard schedule out of the second tier teams? If not Flyers who do you have jumping into the top eight?


I don't take anything on this or any other board personally.  The reality will be what the outcomes are, not what someone's option of a teams is.  There is also usually some change in the weaker and stronger teams by the end of the season as well.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Panther Coach on October 25, 2016, 01:28:02 PM
Is anyone familiar with how the NorCal games against each other will be recognized on CAHA for the standings like the SCAHA games are now? 
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: goonhockey on October 30, 2016, 03:17:37 PM
http://stats.caha.timetoscore.com/oss-scoresheet?game_id=11737&mode=display&auto_refresh=1


don't book those national flights just yet Sharks 1...
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: 1hockeydad on October 30, 2016, 08:34:48 PM
http://stats.caha.timetoscore.com/oss-scoresheet?game_id=11737&mode=display&auto_refresh=1


don't book those national flights just yet Sharks 1...

Looks like it was a tough game from 2 solid teams.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Panther Coach on October 31, 2016, 10:33:25 AM
http://stats.caha.timetoscore.com/oss-scoresheet?game_id=11737&mode=display&auto_refresh=1


don't book those national flights just yet Sharks 1...

Looks like it was a tough game from 2 solid teams.


Lakewood in a couple of weeks will be interesting.  Ducks 1 play GSE 2 and Sharks 1 back to back.  Ducks will be coming home from Chicago after playing some tough teams.

Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: lcadad on November 01, 2016, 08:42:34 AM
Shots 28-13!!  Looks like a goalie just stole a game. 
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on November 17, 2016, 10:48:52 AM
So with Thanksgiving just a week away where are teams going? Also any teams doing a Christmas Tourney?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Panther Coach on November 17, 2016, 11:18:25 AM
Ducks 1 is not playing Thanksgiving or Christmas, but will be at Silver Sticks in LV in early Dec.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Crash on November 17, 2016, 11:33:57 AM
Nothing like traveling somewhere to play a team you could have played at  home.
 :-[
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Panther Coach on November 17, 2016, 11:36:57 AM
The goal is to win the regional tournament that yes includes teams from around your region/home/league to hopefully get to Port Huron.  If we could just go to Port Huron we would. 

Crash I saw your comment about the Ducks 1 refusing to play Wave 3.  What would be the point for Ducks 1?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: BlindZebras on November 17, 2016, 12:02:17 PM
...What would be the point for Ducks 1?
Think of it as a checking camp, except the mannequins move around and try to steal the puck...
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Panther Coach on November 17, 2016, 12:07:05 PM
...What would be the point for Ducks 1?
Think of it as a checking camp, except the mannequins move around and try to steal the puck...

But then we would have to read a long message about checking, them getting screwed by CAHA, and their team being hurt because they don't seem to have awareness at the Bantam level.  Blah blah blah.  If they are playing well enough in LV maybe we get to have our clinic.   
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on November 17, 2016, 12:49:55 PM
Ducks 1 is not playing Thanksgiving or Christmas, but will be at Silver Sticks in LV in early Dec.

I see a Ducks 1 vs Steal heads final.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Panther Coach on November 17, 2016, 01:12:39 PM
Ducks 1 is not playing Thanksgiving or Christmas, but will be at Silver Sticks in LV in early Dec.

I see a Ducks 1 vs Steal heads final.




We played them a couple weeks ago in Chicago. They are big and have some good players.  Ducks won 7-1
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on November 17, 2016, 01:28:41 PM
Ducks 1 is not playing Thanksgiving or Christmas, but will be at Silver Sticks in LV in early Dec.

I see a Ducks 1 vs Steal heads final.

Wow! I saw them last year in Pee Wee AA at Silversicks they looked really good. Might be a different team. No slight against the Ducks team by sayin that. 



We played them a couple weeks ago in Chicago. They are big and have some good players.  Ducks won 7-1
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Panther Coach on November 27, 2016, 01:40:47 PM
Does anyone have insight as to why the Bears and Ducks 2 score is still missing from Oct?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: coachbombay on November 27, 2016, 02:03:02 PM
they were in a tournament back east, so they did not play
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Panther Coach on November 27, 2016, 02:04:24 PM
Wonder if it was rescheduled per the rules?  Otherwise not good for playdowns
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Crash on November 27, 2016, 03:27:37 PM
I can verify what Coach Bombay said, Bears were back east. Perhaps they forfeited the scheduled game? I don't know, I'm just saying if it wasn't re-skedded that might be what happened.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Crash on November 27, 2016, 03:30:22 PM
As for a Ducks - Steelheads final, that's great for me to post on the dressing room wall. Save your money for the slots, lads.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Panther Coach on November 27, 2016, 04:04:46 PM
I can verify what Coach Bombay said, Bears were back east. Perhaps they forfeited the scheduled game? I don't know, I'm just saying if it wasn't re-skedded that might be what happened.






I hope they rescheduled as you can't forfeit this year and still be eligible for playdowns. Also has to be rescheduled before the date to be played not necessary played before the date originally scheduled
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Crash on November 27, 2016, 04:40:59 PM
Thanks for the helpful clarification.




By the way, AA Bears beat AA OCHC  5-0 to win the Aliso-Viejo / Lake Florist Tournament. I'd like to think that OC were exhausted after playing Wave 3 last night :-)

Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: BlindZebras on November 28, 2016, 07:30:14 AM
By the looks of it, OC 1 had a rough tourney overall.  Yes they went 4-1, but all 4 wins came against predominantly 03 squads and were relatively close games: 4-2 vs. JK, 4-2 vs. Wave AA (with an empty-netter), 3-0 vs. Wave A, and 2-1 vs. Wave A.  Then to get beaten soundly by Da Bears 5-0.  Wave AA almost beat the Bears in that semi final, too.  I realize that March is a ways off, and there's a lot of hockey to be played between now and then, but play downs should prove to be interesting if the younger teams continue to improve at their current rate. (Too bad Crash and the Wave A won't be invited to that party...)
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Crash on November 28, 2016, 08:11:50 AM
BlindZebra - we may not be invited to the party, but we may well "crash" it.


Our boys are really, really adaptive. Yeah we lost 3-0 to OC Saturday afternoon. Just a few hours later, with no practice, just verbal adjustments by Coach, we damn near beat them. It was 1-1 with 22 seconds left. Next time we will beat them.


So save your change for the slots. Don't bet against Wave 3.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: BlindZebras on November 28, 2016, 08:27:10 AM
Sorry Crash, your boys aren't on the parlay card so I couldn't bet on them if I wanted to.  Winning the SCAHA Bantam A banner still won't get you a ticket into the AA dance.  Should you guys be there?  Probably.  But that still won't change the reality.  Please don't let that stop you from posting about "if only's" and "what if's".  Besides the OC1 vs. JD1 rivalry, and the gift of the Bears vs. JK gong show, your posts are likely the only thing keeping this Bantam board alive. Cheers!  8)
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Crash on November 28, 2016, 10:23:34 AM
Thanks!


It's true we can't play AA Playoffs. I think that was true before we even got demoted.


Just want to do everything possible to embarrass the powers that be. :-)


As for this board, it's not designed to encourage actual participation, bizarre as that sounds. Cheers.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Grinder on November 28, 2016, 10:09:25 PM
Thanks!


It's true we can't play AA Playoffs. I think that was true before we even got demoted.


Just want to do everything possible to embarrass the powers that be. :-)


As for this board, it's not designed to encourage actual participation, bizarre as that sounds. Cheers.


You go Crash!
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: goonhockey on November 29, 2016, 10:26:42 AM
can we stop this crash circle jerk and get back to the REAL 2a teams?!
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: bandicoot on November 29, 2016, 12:07:18 PM
Haven't been on Calhockey in a long time.  What Bantam AA tournys are going on for Dec.  My son is looking to play.  Not rostered on any travel team.  Hoping to stay local (SoCal).  Can anyone help with information on what teams are playing where?  Thank you in advance to those who help us out. 
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Crash on November 29, 2016, 02:31:16 PM
Wave 3 and Kings AA and a Ducks team are in Vegas for the Silver Stink Dec 9-11. Wave 3 are in Minnesota in mid January.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: BlindZebras on December 05, 2016, 02:35:05 PM
Whoa.  Blackhawks beat both OC1 and JD1 this weekend.  WTF???
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on December 05, 2016, 02:58:41 PM
Whoa.  Blackhawks beat both OC1 and JD1 this weekend.  WTF???

I watched the OC game Blackhawks are big and skilled. I also saw the first period of Sharks 1 vs Simi. Simi was only down 1-0 after one period not sure what the final was. 
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: dustydad on December 05, 2016, 03:02:42 PM
Whoa.  Blackhawks beat both OC1 and JD1 this weekend.  WTF???

Just looking at Blackhawks scores:

3-0 over JK
2-0 over OC1
1-0 over JD1


A good team, and win is a win, but only 3 goals over those Jr. Kings who Crash claims:
"A" is where 90% of their players belong.


0-3 doesn't seem like such a tough loss for an "Bantam A" team against one of the strongest teams in AA. 
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on December 05, 2016, 03:07:00 PM
Whoa.  Blackhawks beat both OC1 and JD1 this weekend.  WTF???

Just looking at Blackhawks scores:

3-0 over JK
2-0 over OC1
1-0 over JD1


A good team, and win is a win, but only 3 goals over those Jr. Kings who Crash claims:
"A" is where 90% of their players belong.


0-3 doesn't seem like such a tough loss for an "Bantam A" team against one of the strongest teams in AA.

The JK are not anywhere near those teams not sure how that was only 3-0
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: KickSave on December 05, 2016, 03:27:19 PM
Kids traveling 6-8 hr v kids fresh from home? Just a thought.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: BlindZebras on December 05, 2016, 04:37:12 PM
And now that I think of it, didn't Wave A beat the Blackhawks in a scrimmage during the Lakewood CAHA weekend?  Never gonna hear the end of this...
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: 1hockeydad on December 07, 2016, 05:36:10 PM
Kids traveling 6-8 hr v kids fresh from home? Just a thought.


Heard that it took most JK players 3 to 4 hours of drive to get to Riverside.  Also heard JK actually played a strong game and two of the goals were soft.

Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on December 08, 2016, 10:26:44 PM
And now that I think of it, didn't Wave A beat the Blackhawks in a scrimmage during the Lakewood CAHA weekend?  Never gonna hear the end of this...


Allegedly
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: hockey4life123 on December 11, 2016, 03:44:59 PM
As for a Ducks - Steelheads final, that's great for me to post on the dressing room wall. Save your money for the slots, lads.

Did you forget to post on wall?

Final was Ducks-Steelheads
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on December 12, 2016, 10:18:15 AM
As for a Ducks - Steelheads final, that's great for me to post on the dressing room wall. Save your money for the slots, lads.

Did you forget to post on wall?

Final was Ducks-Steelheads

I think I nailed that one.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: 1hockeydad on January 05, 2017, 09:03:28 PM
Any thoughts here as the season comes toward the end??
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: orangecone on January 06, 2017, 10:52:40 AM
Has a minor team ever been in the top 6?

Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on January 06, 2017, 11:45:55 AM
Has a minor team ever been in the top 6?

Yes many times, are you talking about this year?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: chpNsk8 on January 06, 2017, 01:54:02 PM
Who are the top minor teams? Who has the best shot for AA in 2018? Looks like 03s are thinner than pervious birth years.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on January 06, 2017, 02:51:14 PM
Who are the top minor teams? Who has the best shot for AA in 2018? Looks like 03s are thinner than pervious birth years.

Out of the top 8 teams right now I believe none are all 03 teams. The only one I am not sure about is the Wave team.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: BlindZebras on January 06, 2017, 07:15:50 PM
Who are the top minor teams? Who has the best shot for AA in 2018? Looks like 03s are thinner than pervious birth years.

Out of the top 8 teams right now I believe none are all 03 teams. The only one I am not sure about is the Wave team.
Ont Wave has four 02 skaters.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: orangecone on January 11, 2017, 11:10:08 AM
Wademan OC 2 has 2 02 skaters. One is a goalie.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on January 11, 2017, 01:51:22 PM
I am hearing GSE 2 is also an 03 team. Not in the top 8 but looking good at 9th.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: goonhockey on January 11, 2017, 03:38:49 PM
when we played them, one of the dads said they (GSE2) were 75% majors...
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: KickSave on January 11, 2017, 03:59:26 PM
GSE 2 mostly 02s. GSE 1 mostly 03s. Someone else mentioned GSE designates 1 and 2 based on location.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on January 11, 2017, 04:13:36 PM
GSE 2 mostly 02s. GSE 1 mostly 03s. Someone else mentioned GSE designates 1 and 2 based on location.

Sorry I had it backwards then. 
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: BigDuke6 on January 11, 2017, 09:11:11 PM
GSE 2 mostly 02s. GSE 1 mostly 03s. Someone else mentioned GSE designates 1 and 2 based on location.


From what I understand GSE1 = South Bay Area and GSE2 = North Bay Area.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: HockeyGuy on January 17, 2017, 04:12:19 PM
GSE 2 mostly 02s. GSE 1 mostly 03s. Someone else mentioned GSE designates 1 and 2 based on location.


From what I understand GSE1 = South Bay Area and GSE2 = North Bay Area.


That is correct, for each age group the '1' team is south bay, the '2' team is north bay.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: BlindZebras on February 08, 2017, 07:04:07 AM
After looking at the results of last weekend's CAHA games in San Jose, what happened to OC1?  Anybody see those games?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: KickSave on February 08, 2017, 08:27:45 AM
They played the NorCal teams  ;D 
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on February 08, 2017, 09:53:38 AM
Here is my top 6 in order now after seeing all the teams.

Sharks1
Bears
Ducks1
GSE2
Black-Hawks
OC1

IMO  8)
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: In The Crease on February 08, 2017, 09:57:46 AM
They played the NorCal teams  ;D


Can't argue with that.


Sharks1 Game was 3-2 going into the 3rd.  Simply beat by better team 5-2.  Game took a lot of gas out of OC's tank.
Sharks2 OC convincing win 6-1
GSE1 OC dominated the play and shots but GSE goalie played amazing! 2-2 tie
GSE2  OC did not play well and couldn't finish chances.  GSE2 was more consistent and deserved the win!
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: In The Crease on February 08, 2017, 10:00:16 AM
Here is my top 6 in order now after seeing all the teams.

Sharks1
Bears
Ducks1
GSE2
Black-Hawks
OC1

IMO  8)


Good List.  I see that as accurate if GSE2 beats Blackhawks this weekend. 


If Blackhawks win,  I am guessing
Sharks 1
Bears
Blackhawks
Ducks 1
OC1
GSE2

Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on February 08, 2017, 10:20:53 AM
They played the NorCal teams  ;D


Can't argue with that.


Sharks1 Game was 3-2 going into the 3rd.  Simply beat by better team 5-2.  Game took a lot of gas out of OC's tank.
Sharks2 OC convincing win 6-1
GSE1 OC dominated the play and shots but GSE goalie played amazing! 2-2 tie
GSE2  OC did not play well and couldn't finish chances.  GSE2 was more consistent and deserved the win!

I would add that GSE1 goalie is pretty darn good as well. Impressed me.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: HockeyDadx3 on February 08, 2017, 12:20:51 PM
Agreed. That GSE1 Goalie is a beast. #30

Came to Colorado and played our AAA team. Our boys chased their first goalie (3 goals on 18 shots in the 1st period) and the 2nd kid came in and shut our kids down. Ended up blanking us in a shootout to win, 4-3.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: goonhockey on February 12, 2017, 09:40:30 PM
regular season is over, any scores to report? some managers are slow on the data entry...
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: BlindZebras on February 13, 2017, 09:37:00 AM
Barring major upsets from Wildcats or Ducks2, the Bears should move into the #2 seed and there's your 1-8 playdown standings.  The top 4 teams will be very difficult to upset in order for any of the bottom 4 to make the State Tourney...
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on February 13, 2017, 09:53:30 AM
Bears Beat Ducks2 by the score of 7-0. Ducks 2 and Flyers in a tie for eight first tiebreaker is wins so Flyers get the 8th seed. Bears move up to the 2 seed. 
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: goonhockey on February 13, 2017, 10:46:33 AM
Bears Beat Ducks2 by the score of 7-0. Ducks 2 and Flyers in a tie for eight first tiebreaker is wins so Flyers get the 8th seed. Bears move up to the 2 seed.


first tie breaker is most wins AMONG tied teams, so essentially head-to-head.  in this case, flyers and ducks 2 tied in their only match-up, so what is the next tie breaker?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: BlindZebras on February 13, 2017, 01:30:38 PM

http://files.leagueathletics.com/Images/Club/2695/Post_Season/2012-2013%20Post%20Season/USAH_Tie_Break_Rules_For_Standings.pdf (http://files.leagueathletics.com/Images/Club/2695/Post_Season/2012-2013%20Post%20Season/USAH_Tie_Break_Rules_For_Standings.pdf)


The tie-breaker formulas are as follows:
1. The results of the head-to-head games played between the tied teams in the following order:
a. Standings — Most points.
b. Most total wins.
c. Differential — Subtracting goals scored against from goals scored in these games, the positions being determined in order of the greatest surplus.
d. Quotient — Dividing the goals scored in these games by the goals scored against, the positions being determined in order of the greatest quotient. A quotient involving dividing by zero (0) has higher standing than a quotient from dividing by any number other than zero. Where two or more teams have no goals against and the quotient tiebreaker is required, the teams shall be ranked high to low in descending order of “goals for.”


I guess this means that the Wave and OC1 will swap places...
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Crash on February 27, 2017, 06:58:56 AM
WAVE 3 beat Mariners yesterday, while OCHC 1 beat Bears. WAVE 3 retains first place by 1 point. Assuming both teams win out their last games, WAVE 3 will finish first. In the event of a tie, WAVE 3 beat OCHC and outscored them.  The WAVE 3 loss was a forfeit to enable them to go to Minnesota.


Just the facts Ma'am.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on February 27, 2017, 07:09:10 AM
WAVE 3 beat Mariners yesterday, while OCHC 1 beat Bears. WAVE 3 retains first place by 1 point. Assuming both teams win out their last games, WAVE 3 will finish first. In the event of a tie, WAVE 3 beat OCHC and outscored them.  The WAVE 3 loss was a forfeit to enable them to go to Minnesota.


Just the facts Ma'am.


This needs to be moved to the bantam A thread. Also Wave three are not a playoff bound team so it doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Crash on February 27, 2017, 08:39:59 AM
Wave 3 were offered a crap deal last to play limited AA games with NO playoffs, OR accept demotion to a full A schedule, which is what they did.


Wave 3 are unbeaten in A, the loss is a forfeit so they could play in Minnesota. The only pretenders are OCHC 1, whom Wave 3 beat, and have outscored 100-63. OCHC have given up 18 goals. Wave 3 have given up 10, and Bears, whom OC beat yesterday.

I am not posting this for your benefit, PKiev, but for the benefit of readers who might be interested in facts.

Why do you have such a hate on for 14 year old boys who have taken enough abuse this season?



   
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on February 27, 2017, 09:36:02 AM
Wave 3 were offered a crap deal last to play limited AA games with NO playoffs, OR accept demotion to a full A schedule, which is what they did.


Wave 3 are unbeaten in A, the loss is a forfeit so they could play in Minnesota. The only pretenders are OCHC 1, whom Wave 3 beat, and have outscored 100-63. OCHC have given up 18 goals. Wave 3 have given up 10, and Bears, whom OC beat yesterday.

I am not posting this for your benefit, PKiev, but for the benefit of readers who might be interested in facts.

Why do you have such a hate on for 14 year old boys who have taken enough abuse this season?



 

I don't hate and have given the Wave kids tons of credit for their play in the past. I am just hearing that because of the PDR they will not be allowed in the A playoffs. Since they are an A team not saying they couldn't of played AA skill wise. Why post in the AA thread? 
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: BlindZebras on February 27, 2017, 09:43:51 AM
Wave 3 were offered a crap deal last to play limited AA games with NO playoffs, OR accept demotion to a full A schedule, which is what they did.


Wave 3 are unbeaten in A, the loss is a forfeit so they could play in Minnesota. The only pretenders are OCHC 1, whom Wave 3 beat, and have outscored 100-63. OCHC have given up 18 goals. Wave 3 have given up 10, and Bears, whom OC beat yesterday.

I am not posting this for your benefit, PKiev, but for the benefit of readers who might be interested in facts.

Why do you have such a hate on for 14 year old boys who have taken enough abuse this season?
Pretenders? Really? WOW.  You guys get EXACTLY what you deserve, and you gladly pound on a division you are admittedly better than in an effort to "send a message", and yet you accuse PKev of hating on your team?  LMFAO!  Nobody I know has had anything bad to say about the boys, but you bring this misery on yourself.  If anyone is pretending, it's you posting in the AA thread.  NOBODY cares anymore about how CAHA is out to get you!  What you should be talking about is how one of your little angels walked out on his team after the first game in Phoenix. Now THAT'S Entertainment!!
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: OnePuck on February 27, 2017, 10:46:57 AM
 Okay, enough of that!
3 out of the 4 top teams who play in the Bantam AA division made it to States. The only team knocked out of the race were the Ducks 1 who lost badly to GSE2 in Sunday mornings game. SC Blackhawks took advantage of OC1’s slow started in the first period of their final game going up by two goals very quickly. OC picked up their game in the 2nd and 3rd period but it wasn’t enough and they lost 2-1. State championships should be a tight competitive weekend.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on February 27, 2017, 10:56:40 AM
Yes, good showing for NoCal since they sent 3 of the 4 teams to state.

I still give the Sharks the overall nod with Bears and GSE just a tad behind them.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: HockeyDadx3 on February 27, 2017, 11:33:27 AM
Wave 3 were offered a crap deal last to play limited AA games with NO playoffs, OR accept demotion to a full A schedule, which is what they did.


Wave 3 are unbeaten in A, the loss is a forfeit so they could play in Minnesota. The only pretenders are OCHC 1, whom Wave 3 beat, and have outscored 100-63. OCHC have given up 18 goals. Wave 3 have given up 10, and Bears, whom OC beat yesterday.

I am not posting this for your benefit, PKiev, but for the benefit of readers who might be interested in facts.

Why do you have such a hate on for 14 year old boys who have taken enough abuse this season?



 

I don't hate and have given the Wave kids tons of credit for their play in the past. I am just hearing that because of the PDR they will not be allowed in the A playoffs. Since they are an A team not saying they couldn't of played AA skill wise. Why post in the AA thread?

Just think how much shit we would have caught last season if we went in the Peewee AA thread and bragged about our Riptide team scoring 335 total goals last season; all while playing regular season games in the A bracket and AA tournaments? We didn't, because we expected them to score that much and skill wise, they were SUPPOSED to score that much due to the fact that they played in the crap-weak Peewee A division last season.

Just like the WAVE3 should be scoring 100+ if they are truly AA.

Crash, let it go, man.....no one cares that your team is beating up on weaker team in the wrong division. Maybe if you guys had scored 100 total during playing "UP" in AA tournaments and you posted about THAT, than you may earn yourself some street cred instead of being viewed as a crybaby braggart.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Crash on February 27, 2017, 01:17:40 PM
You guys can't have it both ways. Is WAVE 3 an AA team playing down?  Or is WAVE 3 an A team? You call it, but neither answer will make you happy.

They've played A games, AA games and AAA games. And beat the CAHA AA Blackhawks in the nastiest youth hockey game I've ever witnessed, in which one of our players had his wrist broken, among other things.

I am not going to comment on any of the internal player issues on the team. And I am not going to comment on SCAHA or CAHA and their politics.


All I can tell you is the boys have played through a ton of adversity and are more than ready for the playoffs. And that I will post wherever I feel like it.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on February 27, 2017, 01:24:48 PM
You guys can't have it both ways. Is WAVE 3 an AA team playing down?  Or is WAVE 3 an A team? You call it, but neither answer will make you happy.

They've played A games, AA games and AAA games. And beat the CAHA AA Blackhawks in the nastiest youth hockey game I've ever witnessed, in which one of our players had his wrist broken, among other things.

I am not going to comment on any of the internal player issues on the team. And I am not going to comment on SCAHA or CAHA and their politics.


All I can tell you is the boys have played through a ton of adversity and are more than ready for the playoffs. And that I will post wherever I feel like it.

SCAHA shows them as a top A team.

Do you know 100% that they are allowed to play in the playoffs as an A team?   
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: The Hun on February 27, 2017, 01:28:41 PM
This is all water under the bridge now.


The real question that all should care about, is "what's next, the coming season?". How can we make sure that our kids gets the most challenge, so that their learning curve keeps rising at the right rate?
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: BlindZebras on February 27, 2017, 01:44:19 PM
All I can tell you is the boys have played through a ton of adversity and are more than ready for the playoffs...
That is, assuming they're allowed to play, right?  That Wave PWAA team thought they were in the playdowns......until a week before playdowns.


Having it both ways? Not sure anyone here really cares.  In hindsight, if you desired to play a AA schedule, maybe you guys should've gone independent, a la CJ his first year at the Ducks.  You could've spent your money traveling the country seeking the level of competition you desired instead of wasting a season of games in Bantam A.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: area51 on February 27, 2017, 03:18:27 PM
You guys can't have it both ways. Is WAVE 3 an AA team playing down?  Or is WAVE 3 an A team? You call it, but neither answer will make you happy.

They've played A games, AA games and AAA games. And beat the CAHA AA Blackhawks in the nastiest youth hockey game I've ever witnessed, in which one of our players had his wrist broken, among other things.

I am not going to comment on any of the internal player issues on the team. And I am not going to comment on SCAHA or CAHA and their politics.


All I can tell you is the boys have played through a ton of adversity and are more than ready for the playoffs. And that I will post wherever I feel like it.
WAVE3 IS A BANTAM A TEAM
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Crash on February 27, 2017, 03:47:52 PM
I don't know what SCAHA / CAHA / will do. And if I did I could not comment on it.

The deal last fall was a limited, bad schedule in AA and NO playoffs (Vacaville - one game) a 7 hour drive. WAVE 3 rejected it -- as would every one of you.


The alternative was to drop down to A, which is where we are. Presumably we will be allowed to play a full season.


My main concern is my own kid, who is finally not injured for the first time since October.



Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Rainman on February 28, 2017, 10:40:45 PM

I don't know what SCAHA / CAHA / will do. And if I did I could not comment on it.

The deal last fall was a limited, bad schedule in AA and NO playoffs (Vacaville - one game) a 7 hour drive. WAVE 3 rejected it -- as would every one of you.


The alternative was to play AA on a team that followed the rules and met PDR.

My main concern is my own kid, who is finally not injured for the first time since October.
Title: Re: Bantam AA 16/17
Post by: Pistonkev on March 20, 2017, 08:36:44 AM
well, first "weekend" is officially in the books.  anyone care to provide some updated rankings?  looks like our SD friends took a few on the chin and looks like the 02 sharks are the real deal...


Sharks and Bears are my top two.


The next mix looks like
Ducks 1
GSE2
OC1
Blackhawks
Wave


That's my top 7 today.


Props to The Bears on a great year. Shout out to GSE2 really came on strong great job.