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Title: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: trans4761 on August 17, 2016, 09:17:30 AM
Let's get this thread started...... Where is everyone for Labor Day ????   Who's team's looks good ????  Who's team should be playing B/A (Can't wait to see Mr./Mrs. Lil Gretzky's responses)

I would like to appoligize now for anyone that I may offend over the season....too bad, grow a pair.  It's all in fun.  Smack talk is not only appreciated but expected.  Good luck to everyone this year !
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: Reality check on August 17, 2016, 10:01:52 AM
Ok. Who cares about labor day, They all look good right now, And it should be who is going to sand bag ?
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: trans4761 on August 17, 2016, 10:50:12 AM
Ok. Who cares about labor day, They all look good right now, And it should be who is going to sand bag ?
They all look good ?

You didn't see my kids team last year at this time.
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: MO-ICETIME on August 17, 2016, 11:30:30 AM
Ok. Who cares about labor day, They all look good right now, And it should be who is going to sand bag ?


Well when i see 23 teams in BB and B each (only 9 in Squirt A), it seems for the 1st time clubs are keeping kids down instead of up? Especially this yer with soooo many 06 kids playing up to PeeWee. Is this actually happening or are they "Sand bagging"? Also will SCAHA step in and actually move (pressure) teams around that "OVER/UNDER PERFORM" during preseason? Will be interesting to watch!
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: goalie_dad on August 23, 2016, 11:24:21 AM
You missed the Ducks other SQ A team.  Runtso is a good coach who will take time with players.  His son is on the team but he does not focus on him.  His SQ A team last year was respectable.
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: Northland on August 23, 2016, 12:53:12 PM
I'd agree and disagree with you on your assessments:

#1: Ducks with Eugene K:   Coach is a screamer and focused on his own son who he also screams at and humiliates in public.  When he actually does communicate he tells parents one thing and then does another.  He prefers to have a team with kids who are already far along the skill path to make his job easier as a coach.  If he has kids with less skill who need some extra coaching he ignores them and short-benches them in games.  Parents see through him and eventually bail after one season to look to invest in their kids elsewhere.

100% spot on, I would personally not trust this guy if he were the last guy around coaching and no my kids never tried out for any of his teams so can't claim sour grapes on this one.


#2 Ice Dogs with Riley:.  Good Dad coach who's real job is working for Bauer Roller and seems to favor kids who also play roller. Had a great finish last season and dumped kids who worked hard for him to win a championship. He wants to build a team around his son and a few favs at a club that not only has taken a dive, but one that shows very little interest to players and parents for future. One only A team here now for Squirt as the other BB team broke up.

Certainly some truths here, but from what I have seen and heard he is pretty fair and not a yeller and they have a training coach working with this team that is fantastic (former D1 player out of CC). 


I would disagree regarding the club itself how it sits today.  The club has cleaned house and they have a whole new stock of coaches of which many are accomplished hockey players with excellent pedigree.  I think the Ice Dogs as a club is def on the right track and if you look at the new coaching staff for their teams its pretty impressive.  Time will tell of ownership and management of the club can jive over the long run.

#3 Wave: Two A teams in Artesia, one with a coach financed and biased with a specific family who's wild child is on the team and a second A squad who's coach has a bad rep with some parents.  Either way, not sure these choices at this club are for all families.

Coaching for the A team out of Artesia is very good and the club seems to have their act together.  I know nothing about the coach or squirt A team out of Ontario.

Aside from these three teams....one would have to love driving to consider Kings in LA or Wildcats (no thanks!) in Carlsbad or Riverside.  OCHC has no Squirt A team unless they bump up their BB team which could possibly happen depending on their early success.  Same goes for other BB teams at Ducks, Ice Dogs and other clubs. BB is a fun division regardless and there are great players in BB that could or should be in Squirt A.  However, a parent should be fine with BB as long as the kid is having fun and the coach is delivering the goods...making BB a far better choice than the options above.
 
I agree with you here.  Kings are a great choice if you are close enough and the Wildcats (no thanks).   I thought OCHC would certainly have a Squirt A team, but I think enough kids bolted preferring not to play for 'Bud Kilmer' in Yorba Linda.

Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: trans4761 on August 23, 2016, 12:56:56 PM
You wanted candid?  Here is the reality.  If you live near either of the three teams listed below then these are a parent and player's only options (unless you own a Prius and love SoCal traffic). I don't think the larger number of BB teams vs A teams is due to sand-bagging, but rather due to the fact that the only three options for SQUIRT A have sincere limitations...... Or they provide good reasons to look elsewhere for coaching ( just to have good fun playing the sport these kids and parents love to watch).

#1: Ducks with Eugene K:   Coach is a screamer and focused on his own son who he also screams at and humiliates in public.  When he actually does communicate he tells parents one thing and then does another.  He prefers to have a team with kids who are already far along the skill path to make his job easier as a coach.  If he has kids with less skill who need some extra coaching he ignores them and short-benches them in games.  Parents see through him and eventually bail after one season to look to invest in their kids elsewhere.

#2 Ice Dogs with Riley:.  Good Dad coach who's real job is working for Bauer Roller and seems to favor kids who also play roller. Had a great finish last season and dumped kids who worked hard for him to win a championship. He wants to build a team around his son and a few favs at a club that not only has taken a dive, but one that shows very little interest to players and parents for future. One only A team here now for Squirt as the other BB team broke up.

#3 Wave: Two A teams in Artesia, one with a coach financed and biased with a specific family who's wild child is on the team and a second A squad who's coach has a bad rep with some parents.  Either way, not sure these choices at this club are for all families.

Aside from these three teams....one would have to love driving to consider Kings in LA or Wildcats (no thanks!) in Carlsbad or Riverside.  OCHC has no Squirt A team unless they bump up their BB team which could possibly happen depending on their early success.  Same goes for other BB teams at Ducks, Ice Dogs and other clubs. BB is a fun division regardless and there are great players in BB that could or should be in Squirt A.  However, a parent should be fine with BB as long as the kid is having fun and the coach is delivering the goods...making BB a far better choice than the options above.
HP, you seem to be spot on.... Except I believe there is only one Sq A team in Artesia.  Yes the coaches are on some else's payroll.  I believe some of those parents are in for a long season.  I hear coach is a good skate coach, other partner is a good "coach". Just don't cross little "Anthony Freeman." **

** check out twilight zone episode 8 season 3 . "it's a good life "
             
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: justanotherhockeydad on August 23, 2016, 01:12:05 PM

I agree with you here.  Kings are a great choice if you are close enough and the Wildcats (no thanks).   I thought OCHC would certainly have a Squirt A team, but I think enough kids bolted preferring not to play for 'Bud Kilmer' in Yorba Linda.


Just curious, who is the Bud Kilmer of Yorba?
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: trans4761 on August 23, 2016, 01:29:32 PM

I agree with you here.  Kings are a great choice if you are close enough and the Wildcats (no thanks).   I thought OCHC would certainly have a Squirt A team, but I think enough kids bolted preferring not to play for 'Bud Kilmer' in Yorba Linda.


Just curious, who is the Bud Kilmer of Yorba?
LOL
You guys are in mid season form.
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: Hockey sophist on August 23, 2016, 04:01:25 PM
Interesting comments on Sq A coaches and Sq A v. BB.  We did BB out of OC 2 years ago and then PWAA last year with 'Cats.   Wildcats offer unstructured practices, equal playing time, and low pressure but no real development or coaching except maybe on "paper." "No Thanks" is a kind dismissal.  We saw dads coaching the Sq BBs last year.   A premium price for that?

We passed on all the PWAA teams and coaches within an hour of our home in Orange County and decided to play PWA at OCHC with Nick Silver.   He is an excellent coach out of Lake Forest who offers good stick times and outstanding skating lessons at Aliso.  His team should be competitive this year. He also has what looks like a good Sq BB team.  There are more coaches in the Mite through PW levels that we would NOT play for than we would.   Sad commentary for such a beautiful sport.
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: 6607 on August 24, 2016, 09:35:06 AM
Its great that there is a thread that has a frank discussion about coaches.  However, Northland's implication that there would have been a Squirt A team at OCHC if kids had not bolted because of the coach is inaccurate.  OCHC did not have a Squirt A team in waiting last year.  It did not have a Squirt BB group and its Squirt A group was largely made up of 05s.  A good portion of that Squirt A team is either playing for the same coach again this year at Pee Wee A (including two of the 4 06 skaters on the team last yeasar) or graduated to AA and AAA hockey.  There are others who  wanted to play for the same coach at Pee Wee AA but went elsewhere when they did not make Pee Wee AA.  I doubt that there are more than a handful of OCHC Squirts from last year playing Squirt A anywhere this season.
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: Northland on August 24, 2016, 09:41:25 PM
Its great that there is a thread that has a frank discussion about coaches.  However, Northland's implication that there would have been a Squirt A team at OCHC if kids had not bolted because of the coach is inaccurate.  OCHC did not have a Squirt A team in waiting last year.  It did not have a Squirt BB group and its Squirt A group was largely made up of 05s.  A good portion of that Squirt A team is either playing for the same coach again this year at Pee Wee A (including two of the 4 06 skaters on the team last yeasar) or graduated to AA and AAA hockey.  There are others who  wanted to play for the same coach at Pee Wee AA but went elsewhere when they did not make Pee Wee AA.  I doubt that there are more than a handful of OCHC Squirts from last year playing Squirt A anywhere this season.

6607, it wasn't an implication, it was a thought which seems reasonable given that OCHC has had a squirt A team going as far back as I can remember.  If there was only a few 2006 players last year on the A team and no BB team then it makes logical sense that there is not a squirt A team this season.  Regardless, I have heard from several people that a that A LOT of players from Yorba's SQA and PWA teams from last season did bolt for other clubs for a multitude of reasons outside of not making AA/AAA.
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: robertalv on September 05, 2016, 12:12:06 PM
Hello from the Santa Barbara Ice Hawks Squirt BB!  This is my son's first season ever playing travel, and we are excited.  Although, after reading this page, didn't realize the amount of "inside baseball" in squirt hockey :/   Anyhow, good luck this season!
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: Hockeymomx on September 06, 2016, 05:09:54 PM
Anyone see any teams this weekend?  If so, how'd they look?
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: goalie_dad on September 06, 2016, 06:09:56 PM
I saw OCHC against Santa Barbara.  OCHC looked really strong; good puck control and passing.  They kept pressure all game long on Santa Barbara.

I am not sure how the competition was in the Anaheim tournament but I was impressed by their passing.  I think the Kings tourney had some strong teams as well but didn't see any of those games.
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: MO-ICETIME on September 06, 2016, 09:39:04 PM
The Valencia Jr Flyers looked like a pretty good team. They played against a few Squirt A teams and hung in there for a while but faded down the stretch. Good puck movement and i'm sure will only improve.
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: Mite06Dad on September 07, 2016, 08:52:32 AM
We were in San Diego this weekend. SDIA looked strong at moving the puck and goaltending, Gulls were pretty good forcing OT in the final vs SDIA. Room for improvement for both Ice Dog teams. Ice Dogs 1 did show a lot of improvement from game 1 to game 4, but then again I am a little biased lol.
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: Copernicus on September 22, 2016, 09:24:40 PM
Does anyone know the deadline to drop?
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: Hockey05 on September 22, 2016, 10:20:28 PM
I thought somebody posted the 25th.
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: Hockeymomx on September 26, 2016, 11:14:05 AM
Anyone heard if any BB teams are moving up or dropping?  Anyone know if any of the A teams are dropping to BB?  I heard one of the JD BB teams was dropping to B. 
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: vrspartak on September 26, 2016, 12:15:41 PM
I have it on good note Mariners A will be dropping to BB.  They will contend at BB for sure.
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: Handboni on September 26, 2016, 03:09:09 PM
If that happens, it's a smart move.
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: Pistonkev on September 27, 2016, 01:06:28 PM
I have it on good note Mariners A will be dropping to BB.  They will contend at BB for sure.

Hearing a lot of teams are being denied movement up or down. Shocking I know
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: yelo on October 03, 2016, 06:51:57 AM

Squirt BB went from 22 teams in preseason to 20 teams in regular season. Lost 4, gained 2.
Wave-Ont, JK BB2, JD BB2 and Saints moved down to B.
Mariners moved to BB from A.
Blaze moved to BB from B.
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: goaliemojodad on October 06, 2016, 11:47:35 AM
Really appreciate the no holds barred discussion on coaches earlier in this thread. It's an expensive mine field of lame coaches to navigate and as much money as we pay the owners of the rinks and clubs should be held MORE accountable. But our few rinks and distance between them makes for a lot of guarded comments. Lame coaches don't read anyway.... We found one we like after being shocked by the lack of professionalism in our last one. And the old club ownership never responded to our complaint letter, showing how much they cared.

We are NOW Mariner's and part of the their defection to BB. My son worked crazy hard all off-season to be ready. But finding another spot late was impossible unless we jumped to PeeWee and travelled 2hours one-way in traffic for practices (and why I guess lame owners and managers persist). After getting shredded by the A Wave last weekend in Artesia (they are AWESOME) we stopped by TSC and watched the BB JrGulls battle the JKings (Gasseau's). The difference in play speed was startling....

Having now played half of the A level teams, we will miss the competition and actually wish we were denied the request to move to BB. However, I hope all your kids battle hard and give mine some good shots to save.
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: MO-ICETIME on October 06, 2016, 01:47:13 PM
Really appreciate the no holds barred discussion on coaches earlier in this thread. It's an expensive mine field of lame coaches to navigate and as much money as we pay the owners of the rinks and clubs should be held MORE accountable. But our few rinks and distance between them makes for a lot of guarded comments. Lame coaches don't read anyway.... We found one we like after being shocked by the lack of professionalism in our last one. And the old club ownership never responded to our complaint letter, showing how much they cared.

We are NOW Mariner's and part of the their defection to BB. My son worked crazy hard all off-season to be ready. But finding another spot late was impossible unless we jumped to PeeWee and travelled 2hours one-way in traffic for practices (and why I guess lame owners and managers persist). After getting shredded by the A Wave last weekend in Artesia (they are AWESOME) we stopped by TSC and watched the BB JrGulls battle the JKings (Gasseau's). The difference in play speed was startling....

Having now played half of the A level teams, we will miss the competition and actually wish we were denied the request to move to BB. However, I hope all your kids battle hard and give mine some good shots to save.


If the team wasn't ready, why wish to stay in A? It's not about the letter, it's about the kids development.
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: goalie_dad on October 06, 2016, 02:33:22 PM
Really appreciate the no holds barred discussion on coaches earlier in this thread. It's an expensive mine field of lame coaches to navigate and as much money as we pay the owners of the rinks and clubs should be held MORE accountable. But our few rinks and distance between them makes for a lot of guarded comments. Lame coaches don't read anyway.... We found one we like after being shocked by the lack of professionalism in our last one. And the old club ownership never responded to our complaint letter, showing how much they cared.

We are NOW Mariner's and part of the their defection to BB. My son worked crazy hard all off-season to be ready. But finding another spot late was impossible unless we jumped to PeeWee and travelled 2hours one-way in traffic for practices (and why I guess lame owners and managers persist). After getting shredded by the A Wave last weekend in Artesia (they are AWESOME) we stopped by TSC and watched the BB JrGulls battle the JKings (Gasseau's). The difference in play speed was startling....

Having now played half of the A level teams, we will miss the competition and actually wish we were denied the request to move to BB. However, I hope all your kids battle hard and give mine some good shots to save.


If the team wasn't ready, why wish to stay in A? It's not about the letter, it's about the kids development.

Totally agree.  When you lose all your games by double digits it is obvious you are in the wrong division.
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: Just Saying on October 06, 2016, 04:37:08 PM
Really appreciate the no holds barred discussion on coaches earlier in this thread. It's an expensive mine field of lame coaches to navigate and as much money as we pay the owners of the rinks and clubs should be held MORE accountable. But our few rinks and distance between them makes for a lot of guarded comments. Lame coaches don't read anyway.... We found one we like after being shocked by the lack of professionalism in our last one. And the old club ownership never responded to our complaint letter, showing how much they cared.

We are NOW Mariner's and part of the their defection to BB. My son worked crazy hard all off-season to be ready. But finding another spot late was impossible unless we jumped to PeeWee and travelled 2hours one-way in traffic for practices (and why I guess lame owners and managers persist). After getting shredded by the A Wave last weekend in Artesia (they are AWESOME) we stopped by TSC and watched the BB JrGulls battle the JKings (Gasseau's). The difference in play speed was startling....

Having now played half of the A level teams, we will miss the competition and actually wish we were denied the request to move to BB. However, I hope all your kids battle hard and give mine some good shots to save.


If the team wasn't ready, why wish to stay in A? It's not about the letter, it's about the kids development.

Totally agree.  When you lose all your games by double digits it is obvious you are in the wrong division.

Or... or... or... need MORE private lessons, MORE stuff from Hockeyshot.com, and a new pair of Vapor 1X Limited Edition skates with pink laces!
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: goaliemojodad on October 07, 2016, 11:01:25 AM
I am totally interested in kids development, but like all of you, put my kid first. Since he's a tender, getting the most adversity is the best thing for his future. I've watched the whole team grow over the last 8 games (4 in tournie) and am quite sure we would have won a few before the end of the he season. Now, regretfully, we will grow slower BUT your remarks will :) soon turn to whining about why SCAHA let us join your ranks. Have at you. ;D
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: Hockeymomx on October 07, 2016, 12:57:05 PM
Well, we'll do our best to give your son some adversity.
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: lcadad on October 07, 2016, 01:36:31 PM
I am totally interested in kids development, but like all of you, put my kid first. Since he's a tender, getting the most adversity is the best thing for his future. I've watched the whole team grow over the last 8 games (4 in tournie) and am quite sure we would have won a few before the end of the he season. Now, regretfully, we will grow slower BUT your remarks will :) soon turn to whining about why SCAHA let us join your ranks. Have at you. ;D


I'm sure I dont have to tell you that Goaltending is a specialized position in the sport, and realistically, unless you are part of a program with a dedicated goalie coach who is regularly scheduled to work with your kid, goalies often don't get the specialized training they need in team practices, unless there is an assistant coach with solid fundamentals who can run the goalies through drills and recognize and correct them, and provide the appropriate training regimen. 


At the Squirt level, almost all the kids are building up the needed core and leg strength and flexibility which can only be achieved through hours of repetition.  I don't know the situation at Simi, but in my experience just about every parent who has a goalie finds one or more coaches who are working with their kid in private lessons.  Of course the availability and cost of these sessions vary widely, and to your point, some coaches are better than others.  With that said, it's a long term project. 
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: goaliemojodad on October 07, 2016, 04:59:41 PM
Thanks for your input! We left the Iceoplex in-house world a year ago because there wasn't any resolve to develop young goalies. Besides more in-house, we have done a respectable amount of goalie coaching, camps and clinics and even a practice goalie position since. With some exceptions, we have found most coaches player oriented and want our kid to just stay in net without any specific netminder development at all, creating and repeating bad habits. Our club has a dedicated goalie coach on contract, but only comes for a varying chunk of one practice a week. But who's complaining?

It has been a great opportunity for the Mariner's team to play in the A level at the Anaheim Early Bird Tournament and these preseason games. We got stomped, but better as a result. I was worried from the start (after experiencing two prior A level tournaments) that we had didn't have enough A level players, and the truth revealed itself. I'm just bummed for my son who really dedicated himself to becoming an A level little puck stopper. I hope we dominate this BB world, of course, but that's not going to happen if we don't ALL develop as a Team. We have the coaches and the kid's to do it, if only we could get the parents out of the way. But who's complaining?

Hockey Mom... what team does your son play for and what position?
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: SeanJ on October 07, 2016, 05:22:11 PM
I watched the video you made and posted on youtube. Your son is very good!

Thanks for your input! We left the Iceoplex in-house world a year ago because there wasn't any resolve to develop young goalies. Besides more in-house, we have done a respectable amount of goalie coaching, camps and clinics and even a practice goalie position since. With some exceptions, we have found most coaches player oriented and want our kid to just stay in net without any specific netminder development at all, creating and repeating bad habits. Our club has a dedicated goalie coach on contract, but only comes for a varying chunk of one practice a week. But who's complaining?

It has been a great opportunity for the Mariner's team to play in the A level at the Anaheim Early Bird Tournament and these preseason games. We got stomped, but better as a result. I was worried from the start (after experiencing two prior A level tournaments) that we had didn't have enough A level players, and the truth revealed itself. I'm just bummed for my son who really dedicated himself to becoming an A level little puck stopper. I hope we dominate this BB world, of course, but that's not going to happen if we don't ALL develop as a Team. We have the coaches and the kid's to do it, if only we could get the parents out of the way. But who's complaining?

Hockey Mom... what team does your son play for and what position?
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: lcadad on October 07, 2016, 07:52:32 PM
I also think what you said previously is very true.  As a goalie parent, you don't want to play for the team that is beating everyone to the degree that your son is only seeing 15 low quality shots a game.


In my experience with the Squirt division, the difference between the teams at the top and bottom of each classification are typically separated by a handful of players.  In other words, there are players in each division that could do fine in any other division.   Overall, the speed of the games are faster as you go up, but there are plenty of BB players who could play in A, and are probably better than some of the kids at the bottom of the roster of many of the A teams.   If the team proves to be too good for the division, that can always be explored in tournament play.

Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: Hockeymomx on October 07, 2016, 08:06:17 PM
The regular season schedule is up and able to be filtered by teams.
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: MO-ICETIME on October 08, 2016, 03:31:23 PM
I am totally interested in kids development, but like all of you, put my kid first. Since he's a tender, getting the most adversity is the best thing for his future. I've watched the whole team grow over the last 8 games (4 in tournie) and am quite sure we would have won a few before the end of the he season. Now, regretfully, we will grow slower BUT your remarks will :) soon turn to whining about why SCAHA let us join your ranks. Have at you. ;D


I don't think it's a slower growth curve at all... Their are always tournaments and scrimmages available to your team. Also, there were other SQA teams relatively close to your location. If what I heard about your last team was correct (and it's a 2-way street), don't burn bridges, rep follows you around.. it's a small hockey world!   ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: goalie_dad on October 08, 2016, 10:09:25 PM
I heard there was a scrimmage between Jr Ducks (3) and Heat today.  Anyone know results?
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: Hockeymomx on October 09, 2016, 03:11:12 AM
I heard JD won 6-5.
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: goaliemojodad on October 09, 2016, 11:27:16 AM
I think what kind Icadad says is reality and there is going to be a good field of players, just perhaps not 5 on the ice at any given moment. Contrary to MoIce, I've watched a couple BB games and see a noticeable difference in the speed 'A' teams play. A much larger percentage of those A kids could be AA and very soon AAA players. But it's gonna be great and we sincerely hope to see more teams rise to the top of the BB heap, and the Mariner's cruising with them.

And regarding MoIce's suggestive aside, please speak your hearsay and tell us who you are if your brave enough (feeling vulnerable now, and at every game as a goalie Dad...), or better yet, approach me at the rink and I'll fill in the other 95% of the story you've only heard rumor about. (I'm the guy with the camera and Pens hat.) I may be wrong, but you appear a bit as a forum flamer and misinformed...as all the SQA teams local to me (do you have my address too?) have a full roster of goalies, or after discovering our decent to BB, we would in fact have tried-out for them. My son chose not to jump ship to PeeWee on his own where there were some options, although our "other" goalie did make the choice to leave and play up.

MoIce "I don't think it's a slower growth curve at all... Their are always tournaments and scrimmages available to your team. Also, there were other SQA teams relatively close to your location. If what I heard about your last team was correct (and it's a 2-way street), don't burn bridges, rep follows you around.. it's a small hockey world!   ;) ;) ;) "
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: MO-ICETIME on October 09, 2016, 03:39:26 PM
I think what kind Icadad says is reality and there is going to be a good field of players, just perhaps not 5 on the ice at any given moment. Contrary to MoIce, I've watched a couple BB games and see a noticeable difference in the speed 'A' teams play. A much larger percentage of those A kids could be AA and very soon AAA players. But it's gonna be great and we sincerely hope to see more teams rise to the top of the BB heap, and the Mariner's cruising with them.

And regarding MoIce's suggestive aside, please speak your hearsay and tell us who you are if your brave enough (feeling vulnerable now, and at every game as a goalie Dad...), or better yet, approach me at the rink and I'll fill in the other 95% of the story you've only heard rumor about. (I'm the guy with the camera and Pens hat.) I may be wrong, but you appear a bit as a forum flamer and misinformed...as all the SQA teams local to me (do you have my address too?) have a full roster of goalies, or after discovering our decent to BB, we would in fact have tried-out for them. My son chose not to jump ship to PeeWee on his own where there were some options, although our "other" goalie did make the choice to leave and play up.

MoIce "I don't think it's a slower growth curve at all... Their are always tournaments and scrimmages available to your team. Also, there were other SQA teams relatively close to your location. If what I heard about your last team was correct (and it's a 2-way street), don't burn bridges, rep follows you around.. it's a small hockey world!   ;) ;) ;) "


I'll approach you no problem if I see you around. I am no flame thrower, however when you throw comments out there on a forum that say something about a club or coach and when I hear something from numerous parents about an incident that led you to write about lack of professionalism etc... I just have to put it out there.. So flame thrower?? Naa, just responding to a comment you spoke about and adding perspective.
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: goaliemojodad on October 09, 2016, 07:18:44 PM
Is your son or daughter even in Squirt BB, moicerumormonger? Rumors of the ethereal kind. You don't even quote sources or name yourself. Or even have any idea what your talking about. Did you sneeze or do you want to talk about something? Are you an ugly person deep inside? Or worse yet, a Ducks fan? Please.

BB will be marvelous and we as parents can help keep it positive and remember it is for our children. We are all hockey lovers and that should make us some sort of family. There is no question we ALL have ongoing dramas with our coaches, with the chemistry of our team's parents, managers or even rambunctious teammates. It is a team sport and it is the best sport. And as a goalie dad, I find player-kids/family/and coaches are sometimes in a different zip code as this MoIce lover has proven. You will never understand the stresses of goalie parent until you are one.

Love MoIce. Go Pens! And oh yeah, the Mariner's too! Hopefully you approach me when I'm not in a bad mood.
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: MO-ICETIME on October 09, 2016, 08:12:36 PM
Is your son or daughter even in Squirt BB, moicerumormonger? Rumors of the ethereal kind. You don't even quote sources or name yourself. Or even have any idea what your talking about. Did you sneeze or do you want to talk about something? Are you an ugly person deep inside? Or worse yet, a Ducks fan? Please.

BB will be marvelous and we as parents can help keep it positive and remember it is for our children. We are all hockey lovers and that should make us some sort of family. There is no question we ALL have ongoing dramas with our coaches, with the chemistry of our team's parents, managers or even rambunctious teammates. It is a team sport and it is the best sport. And as a goalie dad, I find player-kids/family/and coaches are sometimes in a different zip code as this MoIce lover has proven. You will never understand the stresses of goalie parent until you are one.

Love MoIce. Go Pens! And oh yeah, the Mariner's too! Hopefully you approach me when I'm not in a bad mood.


Nothing but respect for Goalie parents... My point wasn't that.. Just to be careful throwing stones... It's a small hockey world, simple as that and I won't resort to name calling, have at it! ,<wink>... I sent you a PM out of respect, to not air it. your kid looked good today <wink>. I'll approach you either way, no worries.. HAHA!
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: MO-ICETIME on October 09, 2016, 08:14:20 PM
Is your son or daughter even in Squirt BB, moicerumormonger? Rumors of the ethereal kind. You don't even quote sources or name yourself. Or even have any idea what your talking about. Did you sneeze or do you want to talk about something? Are you an ugly person deep inside? Or worse yet, a Ducks fan? Please.

BB will be marvelous and we as parents can help keep it positive and remember it is for our children. We are all hockey lovers and that should make us some sort of family. There is no question we ALL have ongoing dramas with our coaches, with the chemistry of our team's parents, managers or even rambunctious teammates. It is a team sport and it is the best sport. And as a goalie dad, I find player-kids/family/and coaches are sometimes in a different zip code as this MoIce lover has proven. You will never understand the stresses of goalie parent until you are one.

Love MoIce. Go Pens! And oh yeah, the Mariner's too! Hopefully you approach me when I'm not in a bad mood.


Nothing but respect for Goalie parents... My point wasn't that.. Just to be careful throwing stones... It's a small hockey world, simple as that and I won't resort to name calling, have at it! ,<wink>... I sent you a PM out of respect, to not air it. your kid looked good today <wink>. I'll approach you either way, no worries.. HAHA!


Looked good as in Battled and moved pretty good! Good glove!
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: goaliemojodad on October 10, 2016, 02:08:53 PM
Thanks MoIce for the comments on my son's play. It was actually a extremely emotional time for him, since he had always wanted to be on that team, and then there was the other thing. He battles good no matter his head space. Impresses me every time. I'm not sure he actually enjoyed himself. Thanks for trying to be nice while you go craigslist on me.

Hearing spurious rumors of a BB team dropping to B. One of the JrKing's teams.

 
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: Hockeymomx on October 10, 2016, 02:17:14 PM
One of the Jr Kings teams (JK2) did move to B.  Are you hearing rumors another dropped? 
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: goaliemojodad on October 11, 2016, 12:21:18 PM
Read back and saw yelo report previously on the JK drop. It's a Coach Bain parent (is that JK2?) that shared a week ago, along with other parental dramas - mostly similar to what some of our parents went through on the Mariner's when told of our drop to BB. Most Mariner's were okay with the re-signing, but a few wanted to stay and battle. One defected completely.

We played our last A game against the Bear's Sunday and it was another slaughter. We scored 5 to their 11, but couldn't grab our center passes or rebounds fast enough to do better. Still, it was a great opportunity.
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: vrspartak on October 13, 2016, 09:03:29 AM
goaliemojodad-- I know plenty of parents and kids on the Simi team, as my son plays for the hawks in SB.  Simi is great all around and will dominate BB except for the top few teams.  If most of the parents were ok with staying in A, why drop? 


Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: goaliemojodad on October 13, 2016, 10:12:46 AM
Vrspartak - only a handful wanted to stay in 'A' for the abuse. Most quietly acquiesced and followed our Head Coach Joe's thoughtful recommendations.

Of course I hope you are right but there are a lot of teams to measure against and the Mariner's have a lot of work to do. We play JrGulls this Sunday as our first BB challenge and I'm hoping the kids don't get nervous seeing their uniforms after being successfully pecked at by their A counterparts in the recent Early Bird Anaheim Memorial Weekend Tournament.

Look forward to playing the Hawks and meeting you in Goleeta soon! Good luck!
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: goalie_dad on October 13, 2016, 10:21:58 AM
Based on preseason I would not expect Mariners will have any trouble against the Gulls (3).  If the Mariners do maybe they should have moved down to SQB.
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: vrspartak on October 13, 2016, 12:31:46 PM
goaliemojodad--Thanks for the response, and I'll see you in a couple weeks!  Based on the many BB games I've seen and tournys, you guys will do great with the talent you have.
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: trans4761 on October 13, 2016, 01:43:56 PM
goaliemojodad--Thanks for the response, and I'll see you in a couple weeks!  Based on the many BB games I've seen and tournys, you guys will do great with the talent you have.
Hope you guys are done spooning.
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: Just Saying on October 13, 2016, 02:50:36 PM
goaliemojodad--Thanks for the response, and I'll see you in a couple weeks!  Based on the many BB games I've seen and tournys, you guys will do great with the talent you have.
Hope you guys are done spooning.


Have you ever been to Simi Valley?! It's freezing at the Iceoplex!  Spooning is the only way to stay warm... especially if you don't have quarters for the heaters...
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: vrspartak on October 15, 2016, 07:32:11 AM
goaliemojodad--Thanks for the response, and I'll see you in a couple weeks!  Based on the many BB games I've seen and tournys, you guys will do great with the talent you have.
Hope you guys are done spooning.

Lol!
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: goaliemojodad on October 15, 2016, 01:04:48 PM
Spoonatory is a lot more productive than defamatory.

I wonder how many of our teams have coaches that care only about banners and not our kids safety or development. Or how many of our parents or clubs that are okay with that.... Winning at all costs, is going to get the team to last place. Didn't you guys ever see Karate Kid?

Wow...no posts for awhile...didn't mean to kill this thread. The craigslist guy is back in his shell or just hanging on his proper thread, so please talk amongst yourselves. (Our Mariner's have been doing better in BB but my goalie son only saw 6 shots in his first BB regular season game (versus the near 60 he was getting in A). The second game offered him 24 shots, a little more exciting. I see that there will be some challenges ahead and there is a lot for our team to learn, so have at us, HockeyMomX. Or not and be nice and say hello.)
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: trans4761 on January 27, 2017, 09:52:29 AM
Shit, the BB board is more dead than the PW AA. !!


Top 5 slots are pretty much set.  Seeding might move around, but pretty set.  JR Gulls (why are SD parents so chippy.?  They play a physical style of play, which is fine, but throw a tissy fit when their lil Gretzkys get touched), Mariners, JR Flyers, OC and JD3.


SEVEN teams battling for the last three spots.  JG2 (see above) , Heat, Wave, JK3, ID2, Maple Leafs , Kitties ( nothing personal with kitties, but BF still owes me $$, so I won't be rooting for you).


Should be fun to watch.  Good luck everyone.
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: Dydduh92809 on February 14, 2017, 06:06:54 PM
A few Gulls parents are a bunch of whiners...for sure....!  Coaches talk trash to opposing players !


Enjoy sitting our of the playoffs Gulls 2 !
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: trans4761 on February 14, 2017, 07:51:56 PM
A few Gulls parents are a bunch of whiners...for sure....!  Coaches talk trash to opposing players !


Enjoy sitting our of the playoffs Gulls 2 !
At one of our games vs a Gull team, one of our players made a rough play.  No problem, kid deserved it, got the penalty.  One of the coaches (who my oldest said looks like Walter White from Breaking Bad) yelled at one of our coaches  saying, "You better control that kid or I will !"  That Didn't go over well with our coaches/parents.  After the game in the parking lot he talks shit to the kids dad and challenger the dad to fight.  Lol.....Mr Walter White needs to be more careful who he talks shit to, he and his flip flops might get worked over.
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: trans4761 on February 23, 2017, 01:08:35 PM
This section of CH sucks !!  Pick it up BB parents !


End of season poll ..........


Which club has nuttier parents........ Jr Gulls or OC


Let the bashing begin........


Picks for the week


BLAZE.                   VS.                 SDIA.               SDIA BY 2


WILDCATS.                                  JR GULLS.      JG BY 3 (was going to be 1 but BF still owes me $$)


CONDORS.             VS.                 JD1.                JD1 BY 2


MAPLE LEAFS.                             ID 1.                ID1 BY 2


JR FLYERS.            VS.                 OC.                 JF BY 2 ( JF should wrap their kids in bubble wrap)


WAVE.                                            HAWKS.        WAVE BY 3


ID2.                            VS.              JR GULLS 3.     ID2 BY 4


JK1.                                                JD3.                JD3 BY 4


GOOD LUCK EVERYONE !!
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: trans4761 on March 03, 2017, 09:43:21 AM
Playoff teams set just a matter of seeding 2 games this week with implications...


MARINERS.                    VS.                 JK1.                MARINERS BY 5


JK3.                                                        JD1.                JK3 BY 2


SEEDING IMPLICATION GAMES.......




ICE DOG 2.                    VS.                     HEAT.                 HEAT BY 1


JD3.                                                          JR GULLS 1.     JG1 BY 2


good luck everyone
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: Hockeymomx on March 05, 2017, 06:35:43 PM
ID 8 Heat 3


JD3 4- JG1 2


So the seedlings should be released in a day or two.  Good luck to all the teams.
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: trans4761 on March 05, 2017, 08:19:04 PM
ID 8 Heat 3


JD3 4- JG1 2


So the seedlings should be released in a day or two.  Good luck to all the teams.
Took these picks in the nuts this week.  :-[
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: trans4761 on March 05, 2017, 08:22:08 PM
Saw parts of the JG-JD3 game.


SSJRJRD looked good. They'll be a team to deal with in the playoffs.


Especially with SG reffing the game from the bench.  :P
Title: Re: SQ. BB 2016/2017
Post by: trans4761 on March 26, 2017, 08:43:37 PM
Good job Jr Flyers on your win.