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Hockey Discussions => Peewee Hockey => Topic started by: uggs on May 22, 2017, 06:44:12 AM
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Only 8 teams listed on iscaha so far, but I know there will be more than that.
Ducks 3
Heat 1
Gold Rush 1
Jr. Kings 1
Maple Leafs 1
Jr Gulls 1
Not declared but likely
Ice Dogs
Jr. Reign/Wildcats
Wave
Empire HC
OC
Does anyone want to add any more? Any BB teams moving up?
and will I have to drive to Bakersfield? Santa Barbara?
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Are there any height and weight requirements for moving the kids to the A/AA levels. My son plays multiple sports and only in hockey he is not even allowed to play 3x3 peewee because he is 07. He is excelling in all sports including hockey ( skill wise ) but somehow not able to break the jinx to go to next level. Any advice for tryouts will be helpful.
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07s are allowed to play up to Pee Wee. With AA tryouts in ten days, it may be a little late to get him the exposure that he needs, but get him to pre tryout clinics for A and AA teams immediately.
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Thanks a lot, we were not sure if he is allowed to play up. Will take him to some pre-tryout clinics.
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07s are allowed to play up to Pee Wee. With AA tryouts in ten days, it may be a little late to get him the exposure that he needs, but get him to pre tryout clinics for A and AA teams immediately.
6607 is 100% correct, "get him to pre tryout clinics... immediately." However, to play devil's advocate... was his birth year the ONLY reason the 3x3 opportunity was declined? A few questions I would ask to determine my encouragement for or against the play up if I may.
1. What is your player's height and weight?
-- since you brought it up, maybe the 3x3 director was concerned about the size of your player so he used the 2007 excuse knowing it contradicts CAHA/SCAHA's Guidelines. Birth year is NEVER a good reason a player should or should not play up, but people often don't know how to say, NO.
2. Did your CLUB have a SquritA team? and was your player a dominant and/or impactful player on his team??
-- I understand there were 8 SquirtA teams last season with one moving back to BB who ended up dominating that division. 4 of the Top 8 BB teams did not have a SquirtA team, thus you may have some reason to question your play up.
3. What does YOUR Club director suggest you do? What does your head coach from last season suggest you do??
-- you mentioned "He is excelling... (skill wise) which raises the question, he may be in off season clinics/camps/lessons. What does his current clinic/camps/lessons Coach suggest?
I just can't judge by what has been posted whether he should play up or not. If I had to choose, 3x3 director was not ready with a good reason and so blaming his birth year knowing your player would be a Squrit MAJOR this upcoming season. Nonetheless, if he can play with the big boys, by all means... play him where he is challenged and can have fun. Good luck with your decision.
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My son is an 07 who played SQBB last season, was second in scoring on his team, and would likely end up playing on his PWA team next season but we will probably be moving south this summer (RSM or Mission Viejo). Any recommendations on where to go? I see that OCHC, Jr Ducks and Gold Rush are all fielding PWA teams next season. Any thoughts, good or bad? Since we are not familiar with the area and teams, looking for some advice. Don't want to be tied up in traffic for hours. Our current rink is 25 minutes from home. Any recommendations/suggestions greatly appreciated. I know there's a couple of clinics next week before tryouts. Any recommendations on which ones to attend and which to skip? Thanks.
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philz39, I think all the teams you mentioned are good. Traffic wise, Goldrush would probably be your first choice, OC 2nd, Ice Dogs running 3rd and JD 4th. Just stay away from JD Runtso, because he plays out of Lakewood. If your 07 wants to be considered for the JD 07 super team for 2018/2019, you need to get him to JD. If that doesn't matter to you, all clubs you mentioned are good.
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philz39, I think all the teams you mentioned are good. Traffic wise, Goldrush would probably be your first choice, OC 2nd, Ice Dogs running 3rd and JD 4th. Just stay away from JD Runtso, because he plays out of Lakewood. If your 07 wants to be considered for the JD 07 super team for 2018/2019, you need to get him to JD. If that doesn't matter to you, all clubs you mentioned are good.
philz39 is right on about Clubs top to bottom. Since you're moving South, maybe stopping by Runtso's clinic to compete with other PeeWee A talent... http://www.jrducks.com/page/show/2488542-12u-pee-wee
Ice Dogs have Spring Clinic till June 11... https://www.icedogshky.com/clinics
Gold Rush just have the one clinic listed... May 29 from 6-7 pm https://www.goldrushhockey.com/new-events/
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@nuffsed (https://www.calhockey.com/index.php?action=profile;u=5434)
thanks for the suggestions.
My son is 4'4" and 75LB, he is 2nd degree black belt and one of the top fencer in North America, he is a excellent swimmer and have been playing hockey for last 5 years.
We are open to work with him for any short coming till we know what they are.
We thought by rule my son cannot play in Peewee and that is why I thought of putting it on the blog.
We are going to take him to whatever clinics we can this week and next.
We appreciate all the suggestions and insight. They are helpful.
Cheers
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South County to the Yorba Linda OCHC rink is fairly easy on the Toll Road. The Pee Wee A/B clinic is on Mondays at 7:10 PM and is hosted by Dean Wilson (B), Brady Horn (A) and Jordan Smerud (A). That would be a good clinic for your son to attend.
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Thank you all for the helpful tips. Very much appreciated.
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Only 8 teams listed on iscaha so far, but I know there will be more than that.
Ducks 3
Heat 1
Gold Rush 1
Jr. Kings 1
Maple Leafs 1
Jr Gulls 1
Not declared but likely
Ice Dogs
Jr. Reign/Wildcats
Wave
Empire HC
OC
Does anyone want to add any more? Any BB teams moving up?
and will I have to drive to Bakersfield? Santa Barbara?
How horrible having to drive to Santa Barbara to play in that broken down rink.
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Dont forget that awful drive to SB...basically on par with going to Riverside or Ontario or KHS....the worst.
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;D ;D
ok, so maybe Santa Barbara isn't too bad, but Bakersfield??
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Neckerfield is about the same distance from the South Bay Area as San Diego
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Does anyone know anything about the 2nd Jr. Kings PWA that was added this week? I know that the Tartaglione team is his 07 SQA team from last year. Is the new team the PWA 06 team or did they move up to PWAA? I've got an 05 that I'm looking for a spot for.
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well, with 23 declared Peewee A teams, I hope he found a spot.
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Congrats to the Runtso Ducks on their 103 penalty minutes this weekend and three suspensions in their first three games. :o :o :o
Keep your heads up out there! ;-)
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Congrats to the Runtso Ducks on their 103 penalty minutes this weekend and three suspensions in their first three games. :o :o :o
Keep your heads up out there! ;-)
WTF? Wow!
So what did the A teams look like over Labor Day? Top 4?
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Congrats to the Runtso Ducks on their 103 penalty minutes this weekend and three suspensions in their first three games. :o :o :o
Keep your heads up out there! ;-)
This not a surprise. He's a believer in getting them ready for checking early -- as in mites. I speak from experience.
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Congrats to the Runtso Ducks on their 103 penalty minutes this weekend and three suspensions in their first three games. :o :o :o
Keep your heads up out there! ;-)
WTF? Wow!
So what did the A teams look like over Labor Day? Top 4?
Kings - Demers seemed to have their way with both Ice Dogs squads, Kings - Tartaglione and Maple Leafs. They are a good team at this point, with the potential to be really good.
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Here's my wild-ass guess...
Contenders:
Wave1
Ducks1
Empire
Gold Rush
Kings1
Wave2
Maybe Teams:
Bears
OCHC
Ice Dogs1
Probably Non-Playoff Teams:
Ducks2
Ducks3
Kings2
Leafs
Ice Dogs2
Unknowns:
Reign1
Reign2
Heat
Gulls1
Gulls2
Mariners
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Here's my wild-ass guess...
Contenders:
Wave1
Ducks1
Empire
Gold Rush
Kings1
Wave2
Maybe Teams:
Bears
OCHC
Ice Dogs1
Probably Non-Playoff Teams:
Ducks2
Ducks3
Kings2
Leafs
Ice Dogs2
Unknowns:
Reign1
Reign2
Heat
Gulls1
Gulls2
Mariners
My guess below. Not really too sure until after preseason.
Top contenders no particular order:
Wave 1
Wave 2
Ducks 1
Gold rush
Leafs
All the rest;
OCHC - On the bubble with this one
Empire: haven't seen any stats for this team. Heard they were a squirt A team last season that came in the bottom. Maybe a PW BB team?
Ice dogs - we will see
Bears - not enough info yet
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Wave Beitner 8 Bears 5
Wave Wada 4 Empire 6
Runtso Ducks 15 Jr Reign 0
Oh and Bickley Peewee AA lost 1-3 to Runtso Peewee A.
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It's early but, who bumps down and to what PWB/BB?
Next week we should have a better idea. But as of now, I see two stand outs!!!!
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Okay this is a wild guess for games this week. Not going to try the point spread yet because it appears teams are all over the place. Maybe after the next couple of games.
Hawks vs. Reign - Hawks for the win
ML vs GR - GR
Ice dogs1 vs. Gulls 2: Gulls 2
Ice dogs 2 vs Gulls 1: Gulls 1
Kings 1 vs ducks 2: ducks 2
OC vs Bears: Bears
Heat vs Lady Ducks: Heat
Wave 1 vs Wave 2: Wave 1 rematch from tournament
Kings 2 vs ducks 1: not a clue
Empire vs mariners: mariners
Ducks 3 vs reign 2: Ducks 3
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Both Ice dogs teams looked pretty soft at the last tournament. Either gulls teams should be able to pull that win off.
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Game of the week
Kings 1 vs. Ducks 2
Empire will beat Mariners.
Both Gulls FTW.
The rest, too early to predict.
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Welcome to the new A division. (Should be BB) AA flight 2 is the new A division. None of the games last week looking at scores were even very competitive. Yeah the teams that came out on top by a wide point spread, good for them, but the competition isn't very much this season either. What a weak and boring division. There should only be 3 teams in this division if that. Don't know because the competition has not been there to even tell. Even the 3 teams I think should be there don't even look that strong. Thanks CAHA for watering down the competition. You have made a mess of So Cal Hockey. This is going to be one boring PW A season.
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What SHOULD CAHA have done? Forced the flight 2 teams to A?
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Most definitely. Would of made a statement to both the clubs and the parents. Beware of where you place your teams.
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No thanks, Skates. Wouldn't want to be subjected to Icadad's daily diatribes of the injustices suffered by those Flight 2 teams in the PWA division. :D
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Maybe Caha got it right and maybe they didn't. I still wouldn't make fun of the teams on the bubble that may have been caught in the inexact science of the jamboree.
Stay classy.
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There are teams on the top and teams on the bottom of every division. You can think that this is only because parents and teams want an extra A, but the kids want it just as bad and they're the ones that need to keep earning it. I think then skates would want the Avs to move to the AHL given their performance last year in the NHL. If the AA bottom tier moved down there would be teams to move down in A and then BB and then B. Live with it and realize that some people win and some lose. Winners take home the prom queen and losers just go home.
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No thanks, Skates. Wouldn't want to be subjected to Icadad's daily diatribes of the injustices suffered by those Flight 2 teams in the PWA division. :D
You are probably right. I would be complaining about all the games we would be winning by 9 goal+ margins, and how the season went by really fast with a 3rd period running clock.
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Most definitely. Would of made a statement to both the clubs and the parents. Beware of where you place your teams.
Skates, didn't your kid's team go 1-3 in the jamboree?
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Skates, in what order would you rank the teams in PeeWee A? Whoever has to commute to San Jose this year is going to be thrilled.
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Most definitely. Would of made a statement to both the clubs and the parents. Beware of where you place your teams.
Skates, didn't your kid's team go 1-3 in the jamboree?
Nah, my team chose to back out of AA and never went to the Jamboree and the way we are playing in A I'm sure glad that we did. It appears we should be playing BB and not AA. I think in time we will definitely improve.
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Skates, in what order would you rank the teams in PeeWee A? Whoever has to commute to San Jose this year is going to be thrilled.
lol! I wouldn't know how to rank them at this point. What A teams are commuting to San Jose?
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Skates, I may be wrong but I heard that the Saints and San Jose are dropping to Peewee A.
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Saints was forced down to PWA. I'm glad they're here and hope they bring some competition. SJ team I heard is horrible.
My opinion, if you haven't scored more than 5 goals in 3 games in PWA, you probably don't belong in PWBB.
Some teams currently at top have had soft teams (and there are several) to play. It will sort itself out by end of pre-season.
1/3 of the teams will most likely bump down.
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Skates, I may be wrong but I heard that the Saints and San Jose are dropping to Peewee A.
That's correct. Both teams were about the same level in AA from what I saw.
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So that being said, it seems like there will be some road trips to San Jose coming up for some of us. It sounds like an exciting season on Interstate 5.
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So that being said, it seems like there will be some road trips to San Jose coming up for some of us. It sounds like an exciting season on Interstate 5.
San Jose will be PWA in NORCAL not SCAHA.
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I agree with you. Particularly with the stupid flight system as the alternative for real management.
Also, Jr. Ducks has suffered for years due to the Daddy coach/assistant coach environment. Better development has occurred at the other clubs (think Bears, Wave, OC, Empire)
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If I'm not mistaken, the Ducks Runtso team is majority 07's and they are one of the stronger teams so why not let them play up if they are good enough?
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If I'm not mistaken, the Ducks Runtso team is majority 07's and they are one of the stronger teams so why not let them play up if they are good enough?
I think Winston Wolf has a quote loaded and ready for that question.
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Lots of teams working out their kinks in PeeWee “A†and getting better in the pre-season. Whatever is showing currently as the strongest teams or weakest teams in pre-season doesn't mean they will stay that way by November. We saw lots of growth last year with weaker teams and also saw some of the stronger teams that looked great early take a dump by Christmas. It's all relative and easy to judge, but there may be some pleasantly surprising games and teams this season in “A.â€
In addition, there are lots of kids who are great players in “A†who did not want to deal with the political, ego-maniac coaches and teams carrying loads of bullshit just to play on or pay for "AA" dysfunctional teams. PeeWee is a great division for development and just because a kid's on “AA†doesn't sincerely mean they are "developing." We've seen lots of kids who had just signed with a “AA†team this past summer at tryouts jump to another team in pre-season because of either major dysfunction or not enough ice time. Instead of focusing on pre-season workouts and developing for the “actual season†these kids and their families are already stressing about their team, the coaches, their flight status, relegation, etc.
What a drag, truly and, these kids haven't even sprouted one hair in their arm-pits! Our kids and our team will develop well this year in “A†and pave their way to better prep for next season ---- and then where it really counts in Bantam ----- where they better be able to hit the ground running and the ice skating. Some Bantam teams already have kids out due to broken bones and season ending injuries before the real season has even begun.
Going forward, it would be a great move by SCAHA with the PeeWee division if the organization does two things.
- Abolish the upper flight/lower flight issue. There should only be one flight and one division for PeeWee “AA." Let the kids play Labor Day Weekend and see where they stand. Whether they are a superstar team or on the bubble they have decide to either stay in “AA†bump-down. If the team downright sucks then they should be relegated without argument or dispute. It is a long season to play on a team that blows and that cannot compete and any parent paying the bills for hockey should agree.
- Abolish lower birth years from being allowed to play-up in PeeWee. This should have fixed long ago and 07’ kids should not be playing in Peewee “AA,†let alone “A.†If USA hockey is all about development, including cross-ice for MITES and no playing up into Bantam then why can kids play up in PeeWee?? Or if they can play in “A†then they should not be allowed in “AA.†There are very few spots and teams for “AA†and those should only be open to the age appropriate players. Lots of 06’ and 05’ kids lost opportunities this season due to politics with the DUCKS and other teams because of this being allowed. If development is a real concern then it is not fair to the kids who should really be playing there in “AA.â€
CAHA has an interest in seeing teams compete with top teams on national/international level. All of the players except maybe 1 on the 06 Kings AAA team that is currently ranked 5th in the myhockey rankings played up in PWAA or PWA last year. The 03 Kings played up in PWA in their major squirt year and outscored their opponents 10-1during the regular season. 170 goals for and 17 against in their season. You're saying they should have been forced to play squirt A? They should have been forced to play PWAA, in my opinion. Kids should be able to play against similarly skilled opponents.
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I don't have a problem with 07's playing up in PWA or PWAA as long as they can hang with the older kids and as long their parents don't lose their $h1t every time their baby gets bumped. If you freak out every time you're kid gets roughed up a little, you're in the wrong sport. ;-)
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Ducks2 6 Kings2 0
Any other updates
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Wave (2) 2
OC 0
ID (1) 3
JD (1) 1
Empire 4
Maple Leafs 2
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Healthy Scratch & Skates, what's your guess on how the teams are ranked so far?
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Empire, Gold Rush, Wave 1, Ducks 2 are the top 4 teams. It's clear.
Gulls 2, Ice Dogs 2, Reign 1 are going to have a tough year
Kings 1, Golden Bears, Ducks 1, Heat should be playoff comtenders (Lady Ducks are at this level but can't qualify). Knocking on the door, but need to improve are; Ice Dogs 1, Mariners, Maple Leafs, Gulls 1, and Wave 2.
Teams that haven't proven anything yet based on schedule or sight test are OCHC, Reign 2, Ducks 3, Ice Hawks, Kings 2... Some may be closer to the bottom than the playoffs, but time will tell.
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I think the Lady Ducks can qualify this year. I don't think at the 12U level its exhibition anymore. May be wrong but that's what I heard.
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I think the Lady Ducks can qualify this year. I don't think at the 12U level its exhibition anymore. May be wrong but that's what I heard.
I heard the same thing.
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Would love to see at the end of the day only 16 teams in PWA, allowing each team to play against everybody else so nobody can complain about a "favorable" schedule. Can the hockey gods please answer my prayer?
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Agree 100% with Bear71. Pre-season has been favorable to some.
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Based on what I've seen and heard so far...
The Contenders: Ducks2, Wave1, Empire
Almost Contenders: Kings1, Wave2, Gold Rush
Possible Playoff Teams: Bears, Gulls1
There might be a few other "diamonds in the rough" out there too.
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My weekend picks:
Ice dogs 1 vs ducks 2 - ducks2 by a lot
Maple leaves vs bears - bears by 4
Kings 1 vs ice hawks - kings1 by 3
OCHC vs Wave 1 - wave 1 by 2
Gulls 1 vs gulls 2 - gulls 1 by 4
Ice dogs 2 vs ducks 1 - ID by 2 8)
Lady ducks vs Empire - close game
Jr Ducks 3 vs kings 2 - Ducks 3 by 1
Heat vs reign 2 - heat by 3
Wave 2 vs mariners - Wave 2 by 3
Reign 1 vs gold rush- gold rush by a lot
Good luck everyone.
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Any other updates besides?
Ducks2 12 Ice Dogs 1
Maples Leafs 6 Bears 5
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Empire - 6
Lady Ducks - 6
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Hard not to put the Lady Ducks as a contender if Empire is up there.
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The Lady Ducks are legit. Besides having the advantage of physical size at this age, they get a LOT of ice time and are well coached.
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Empire was beat by Kings 1 6-2 in a scrimmage... just putting that out there for digestion.
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Schedule Please... trying to plan kids birthday, and life in general.
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Schedule Please... trying to plan kids birthday, and life in general.
Schedule up through Nov 5
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where is the rest of it?
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Only the minds at SCAHA know... :o
I don't ever remember SCAHA sending out the regular season piecemeal like this before....
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I seem to recall that one year they sent out the schedule through Christmas, then released the second half.
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They are to busy sticking their noses into places it does not belong instead of doing their actual function. CAHA and SCAHA are such a joke!
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At least by publishing piece meal, SCAHA can create favorable matchups for teams after seeing how the first 4 games go. Especially when there are more teams then games to go around.
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At least by publishing piece meal, SCAHA can create favorable matchups for teams after seeing how the first 4 games go. Especially when there are more teams then games to go around.
So there are 22 teams in PeeWee A and by publishing the results in sections and creating favorable match ups are they for lack of better terms advocating that only the strong teams are potentially Playoff eligible?
We are only going to play 15 games in regular season. If Scaha is trying to create a more competitive schedule they should also relegate teams to not be playoff eligible because they did not have to play a team that in the eyes of Scaha is stronger or weaker than the other team. Someone this year will make playoffs because they got a more favorable schedule and some will have to play 15 strong teams to make it. (Not saying there is 15 strong teams in PeeWee A because there obviously isnt!)
There are at least 4 teams that should have been bumped down to BB but will have to give all players a release. So it comes back to the almighty $$$ to determine our schedule.
I believe they are just trying to locate Ice for the teams that did bump up and down, and with the AA Flight 1 and 2 Debacle A is just an after thought to get the schedule complete.
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Ice is ice man. As long as clubs dont add teams overall, the ice is already there.
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The last thing SCAHA and CAHA are thinking about is PWA hockey.
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The last thing SCAHA and CAHA are thinking about is PWA hockey.
It is not like it is a lot to manage...
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The last thing SCAHA and CAHA are thinking about is PWA hockey.
It is not like it is a lot to manage...
It is when they are trying to figure out how to build a full schedule for Ducks 2 that doesn't require them to travel more than 10 miles. ;)
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Bear71, it almost sounds like you want to play for the Ducks2. Maybe next year!!! I'm sure their looking for a team secretary if your qualified, not manager they already have a really good one.
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Bear71, it almost sounds like you want to play for the Ducks2. Maybe next year!!! I'm sure their looking for a team secretary if your qualified, not manager they already have a really good one.
No thanks, I wouldn't understand you as I don't speak (cross) Czech.
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I believe you're required to have a couple major penalties to be in that team?!
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First requirement is, you have to be able to skate forwards and backwards. Second is you can't blame the coach for your kids misdeeds, third you have to be willing to shut the hell up and enjoy the game from the stands.
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First requirement is, you have to be able to skate forwards and backwards. Second is you can't blame the coach for your kids misdeeds, third you have to be willing to shut the hell up and enjoy the game from the stands.
I’m going to give you #1 and #2, but there’s no way you meet the third criteria!
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Skates & Healthy Scratch, what are your predictions for this weekends game. You guys have been pretty accurate.
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My Predictions are.......
Jr Reign 2 vs Empire - Empire by 4
Wave 2 vs ML - Wave 2 by 2
OC vs Wave 1 - Wave 1 by 2
Lady Ducks vs Bears - close game Bears by 1
Jr Ducks 1 vs Jr ducks 2 - Ducks 2 by 5
Kings 2 vs Heat - Heat by 2
Kings 1 vs GR - GR by 4
Saints vs Mariners - I am going with the saints since they thought they were AA
Ducks 3 vs gulls - Ducks 3 by 2
Ice Dogs1 vs hawks - close game. Can go either way
Ice dogs 2 vs Condors - Jr Condors by 3 (Jr Condors moved from BB to A)
Good luck to everyone.
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Jr. Condors moved to A?? Noooo! I don’t want to drive to Bakersfield.
In other news, Jr. Reign Riverside dropped to peewee bb. I’m happy for them and hope they have a good season.
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Jr. Condors moved to A?? Noooo! I don’t want to drive to Bakersfield.
In other news, Jr. Reign Riverside dropped to peewee bb. I’m happy for them and hope they have a good season.
Well maybe the Jr. Condors don't want to drive to play your team either, have you ever thought about that? The Jr. Condors will drive farther then you will the whole season. It is called travel hockey otherwise you can play in-house hockey.
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My Predictions are.......
Jr Reign 2 vs Empire - Empire by 4
Wave 2 vs ML - Wave 2 by 2
OC vs Wave 1 - Wave 1 by 2
Lady Ducks vs Bears - close game Bears by 1
Jr Ducks 1 vs Jr ducks 2 - Ducks 2 by 5
Kings 2 vs Heat - Heat by 2
Kings 1 vs GR - GR by 4
Saints vs Mariners - I am going with the saints since they thought they were AA
Ducks 3 vs gulls - Ducks 3 by 2
Ice Dogs1 vs hawks - close game. Can go either way
Ice dogs 2 vs Condors - Jr Condors by 3 (Jr Condors moved from BB to A)
Good luck to everyone.
Stone cold lock of the week: Wave 1 (-2) vs. OCHC. Pull out your 401k money for this one.
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I’m gonna complain about anything over an hour and a half drive. If my kid could play in an in-house league with really stellar talent, iI would pull him from SCAHA for sure. But we’re not in Minnesota. So I do it for my kid.
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Jr Reign 2 vs Empire - Empire by 4
Wave 2 vs ML - Wave 2 by 2
OC vs Wave 1 - Wave 1 by 2
Lady Ducks vs Bears - close game Bears by 1
Jr Ducks 1 vs Jr ducks 2 - Ducks 2 by 5
Kings 2 vs Heat - Heat by 2
Kings 1 vs GR - GR by 4
Saints vs Mariners - I am going with the saints since they thought they were AA
Ducks 3 vs gulls - Ducks 3 by 2
Ice Dogs1 vs hawks - close game. Can go either way
Ice dogs 2 vs Condors - Jr Condors by 3 (Jr Condors moved from BB to A)
Wave1 by 6 over OC
Lady Ducks by 1 over Bears
Kings1 by 1 over Gold Rush
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Have you seen one Gold Rush game Healthy Scratch? That team is stacked and 10-0 to start the year. Rumor has it that they have several players that could play AA but don’t because it’s a new program.
I agree with your other changes mind you. But you have that team wrong.
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Nah, think you are wrong Wags. I have seen gold rush play. They are your average A team. You will see them around 5th place by season end. Nothing special there.
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Wags, Not all 10-0 records are created equal. ;-)
This weekend will be another datapoint.
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I’m gonna complain about anything over an hour and a half drive. If my kid could play in an in-house league with really stellar talent, iI would pull him from SCAHA for sure. But we’re not in Minnesota. So I do it for my kid.
Really? Not even all travel club teams have stellar talent at the A level. Some kids with stellar talent only play in house because that's all they can afford. Either your kid has natural talent or not. That's what separates the best from the rest. Just because a kid plays in house does not mean they don't have talent. I have seen a kid come from in house, Play one year of travel at the PW level and surpass those kids playing travel for 7 years already. SMH... Guess you must be one of those parents that thinks their kid is the super star of the team.
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You are 100 percent correct. Just ask those travel teams that were beaten by The Rinks and Ice Quakes in house teams during tournaments over the years.
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He would skate circles around our local in-house teams (I know because use we tried it once), and if there was a tournament team locally, we might try it. If I really thought he was all that, I'd have had him try to get on a AA team. But we don't need the extra A. We are playing locally, with kids and parents that don't take themselves or this sport too seriously. And we're trying to have fun. Imagine that. As I said, I hate driving, but I do it for my kid.
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I'd also like to point out that peewee A only has, what, 7 pages? and Peewee AA is up to 45+? I'm happy that A is so much more chill. Some may call it glorified BB or watered down, or whatever. I don't care. My kid is having fun. That's all that matters.
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He would skate circles around our local in-house teams (I know because use we tried it once), and if there was a tournament team locally, we might try it. If I really thought he was all that, I'd have had him try to get on a AA team. But we don't need the extra A. We are playing locally, with kids and parents that don't take themselves or this sport too seriously. And we're trying to have fun. Imagine that. As I said, I hate driving, but I do it for my kid.
Yep, you must be one of those parents.......
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Ok fine. My kid is God’s gift to Hockey. He’s going to play D1 and in the NHL. There. Happy? Now can we get back to hockey?
Thanks
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Ducks 2 3-1 Ducks 1, it was a hard fought game. Any other updates?
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Ducks 2 3-1 Ducks 1, it was a hard fought game. Any other updates?
It was such a good game. Stayed after my son's game to watch it. Exciting and fun game to watch. Ducks 1 goalie was on; he was really amazing.
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Lady Ducks - 3
Bears - 3
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Heat 9-2 against Kings 2.
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Kings 1 5-3 over Gold rush
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Wags, Not all 10-0 records are created equal. ;-)
This weekend will be another datapoint.
Great call!!!!!
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Have you seen one Gold Rush game Healthy Scratch? That team is stacked and 10-0 to start the year. Rumor has it that they have several players that could play AA but don’t because it’s a new program.
I agree with your other changes mind you. But you have that team wrong.
It appears Healthy scratch was right about Gold Rush. Where were all the AA players yesterday? By looking at the scoresheet, there might only be one AA/A player on that team. I think their pre season schedule might have been too light to see how well the team really is.
Healthy Scratch also got the OC vs Wave game right. It appears OC had a hard pre season schedule, playing all predicted top teams.
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It appears Healthy scratch was right about Gold Rush.
Ha ha. Don’t expect the same fortune-telling results next week. Im pretty sure I’ve reached my peak and it’s all downhill from here. :-)
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Skates & Healthy Scratch, do you guys have any pre-weekend lines? Any upset on the horizon?
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My Predictions for the coming weekend:
Bears vs Reign - Bears by 3
Ice Dogs 2 vs Hawks - Hawks by 2
Jr Ducks 3 vs Ducks 1 - Ducks 1 by 2
Ice Dogs 1 vs Heat - Heat by 2
Gold Rush vs Kings 2 - Gold Rush for the win
Condors cs Gulls - Gulls by 4
Mariners vs OC - will be a close game - I will go with OC for the win
Ducks 2 vs Wave 1 - will be the game of the week! Ducks by 2
Lady Ducks 2 vs Wave 2 - will be a close game.
Maple Leafs vs Saints - probably a close game. Saints have not posted their score from last week yet. I can't make a prediction at this time.
Empire vs Kings 1- will be a close game. I will go with Kings 1 for the win.
Should be some good match ups this weekend.
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Mariners won 3-2 against the Saints
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Then my bet is ML will win against the Saints.
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Bears vs Reign - Bears by 3
Ice Dogs 2 vs Hawks - Hawks by 2
Jr Ducks 3 vs Ducks 1 - Ducks 1 by 2
Ice Dogs 1 vs Heat - Heat by 2
Gold Rush vs Kings 2 - Gold Rush for the win
Condors cs Gulls - Gulls by 4
Mariners vs OC - will be a close game - I will go with OC for the win
Ducks 2 vs Wave 1 - will be the game of the week! Ducks by 2
Lady Ducks 2 vs Wave 2 - will be a close game.
Maple Leafs vs Saints - probably a close game. Saints have not posted their score from last week yet. I can't make a prediction at this time.
Empire vs Kings 1- will be a close game. I will go with Kings 1
Here are my picks:
Bears by 5 over Reign
Hawks by 3 over ID2
Ducks1 by 3 over Ducks3
Heat by 3 over ID1
Gold Rush by 2 over Kings2
Gulls by 3 over condors
OC by 2 over Mariners
Wave1 by 2 over Ducks2
Wave2 by 2 over Lady Ducks
Leafs by 1 over Saints
Empire and Kings1 Tie
Good luck!
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Bears and Reign cancelled, as referees were a no show. Nothing better than a 7am Sunday morning scrimmage...except maybe the drive to and from Carlsbad.
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Bears and Reign cancelled, as referees were a no show. Nothing better than a 7am Sunday morning scrimmage...except maybe the drive to and from Carlsbad.
This game should be rescheduled at Pickwick!
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Ducks 2 tied Waves 1 4-4 it was a well played game by both teams. Any of updates?
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Ducks 1 tied Ducks 3 6-6.
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Wave (2) - 4
Lady Ducks - 2
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Bears and Reign cancelled, as referees were a no show. Nothing better than a 7am Sunday morning scrimmage...except maybe the drive to and from Carlsbad.
This game should be rescheduled at Pickwick!
I’d settle for a reasonable explanation of how this could happen. It’s not like only one referree showed up while the others overslept/had car trouble/etc; zero showed up. Skates, you have a line on my chances of getting that explanation? +$300?
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Bears and Reign cancelled, as referees were a no show. Nothing better than a 7am Sunday morning scrimmage...except maybe the drive to and from Carlsbad.
This game should be rescheduled at Pickwick!
I’d settle for a reasonable explanation of how this could happen. It’s not like only one referree showed up while the others overslept/had car trouble/etc; zero showed up. Skates, you have a line on my chances of getting that explanation? +$300?
OK, I'm gonna take a shot at these odds, I'm guessing 1:Infinityx2
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Condors beat Gulls 4-3
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What are the lines going into this weekend?
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Skates & Healthy Scratch what are your lines for Sunday?
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Healthy Scratch, you win the prize this week. You nailed the kings vs Empire game.
And hawks vs ice dogs, lady ducks vs Wave (2).
Would the Reign please update their scores from the last 2 weeks!
Good Job!
My picks for this weekend:
Ducks 1 vs Condors - Ducks by 1
Saints vs Lady Ducks - Close game - saints by 1
Ducks 2 vs Ducks 3 - Ducks 2 by 3
Kings 2 vs Empire - Empire by 6
Heat vs Dogs 2 - Heat by 3
Mariners vs Wave 1 - Wave 1 by 2
Gulls vs Hawks - Hawks by 3
OCHC vs Maple Leaves by 2
Jr Kings 1 vs Bears - Kings by 1
Gold Rush vs Dogs 1 - Dogs by 2
Jr Reign vs Wave 2 - Wave 2 by 3
Good luck to everyone!
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Reign haven't played an official game yet. Referees haven't shown up.
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Lady Ducks - 2
Saints - 1
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Ducks 2 won 9-0 against Ducks 3, any other update
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Skates and Healthy Scratch, what do the lines look like this weekend.
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Looks like there were some upsets last weekend! Maybe some teams are not as strong as we thought.
How does Empire tie kings1 and then loses to kings 2?
My picks for this week:
Gold Rush vs Ice dogs 2 - GR by 3
ML vs Mariners: Mariners by 1
Heat vs gulls - Heat by 3
Ducks 3 vs Wave 1 - Wave 1 by 3
Wave 2 vs kings 1 - Wave 2 by 2
Empire vs Ice dogs 1- last week my guess would of been Empire. Close game maybe this week? I will leave this prediction to Healthy Scratch
Jr Reign vs Saints -Saints by 4
Ducks 1 vs hawks- - Hawks by 2
Lady ducks vs OC -LD by 2
Jr Condors vs Ducks 2 - Ducks 2 by 3
Bears vs kings 2 - Bears by 1
Good luck to everyone!
Carl Henry what are your picks?
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Skates, if I were to list a line on these games I would give everyone a good laugh. I can probably guess who might win but even that is a crapshoot.
Ducks 8-3 vs Condors any other scores
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Lady Ducks - 4
OCHC - 1
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So after this weekend it appears that we have the top 7 teams set pretty much. Ducks 1 will probably fall out of 8th place and may be replaced with the bears.
Any thought from anyone else?
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If nobody knows shit what is your opinion worth?
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Which team forfeited this upcoming weekend, Lady Ducks or Mariners?
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Probably the Lady Ducks because I heard they are traveling out of state this weekend. Another reason why SCAHA didn't want to make their games count because they will miss a lot to travel to girl tournaments and that is not fair to the kids that now have no game. Lady Duck games should be Exhibition only.
Expect them to forfeit their game on January 14th too since they will be attending their annual MLK girls tournament. Maybe the ice dogs 1 in advance can set up a scrimmage with another team on that day.
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Probably the Lady Ducks because I heard they are traveling out of state this weekend. Another reason why SCAHA didn't want to make their games count because they will miss a lot to travel to girl tournaments and that is not fair to the kids that now have no game. Lady Duck games should be Exhibition only.
Even if the LD were exhibition only the kids would STILL not have a game. So from a playing standpoint it makes no difference.
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Probably the Lady Ducks because I heard they are traveling out of state this weekend. Another reason why SCAHA didn't want to make their games count because they will miss a lot to travel to girl tournaments and that is not fair to the kids that now have no game. Lady Duck games should be Exhibition only.
Even if the LD were exhibition only the kids would STILL not have a game. So from a playing standpoint it makes no difference.
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Not true... they would of been scheduled to play someone else or would have a bye week so the family could plan for that weekend in advance or knowing it is a bye week some teams schedule extra practices or scrimmages. And it messes up the standings because now the mariners get the 2 points and not all teams get that extra free 2 points. Please don't let them compete unless they cancel their travel weekends.
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Probably the Lady Ducks because I heard they are traveling out of state this weekend. Another reason why SCAHA didn't want to make their games count because they will miss a lot to travel to girl tournaments and that is not fair to the kids that now have no game. Lady Duck games should be Exhibition only.
Even if the LD were exhibition only the kids would STILL not have a game. So from a playing standpoint it makes no difference.
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Not true... they would of been scheduled to play someone else or would have a bye week so the family could plan for that weekend in advance or knowing it is a bye week some teams schedule extra practices or scrimmages. And it messes up the standings because now the mariners get the 2 points and not all teams get that extra free 2 points. Please don't let them compete unless they cancel their travel weekends.
They also have to pay the fine for missing the game.
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My picks for this week:
OC vs Jr Reign - close game
Wave 1 vs Maple Leaves- Wave 1 by 1
Lady Ducks vs Mariners - Mariners by forfeit
Jr Kings 1 vs Saints - Close game kings 1 by 1
Ducks 1 vs heat - close game - Heat by 2
Gulls Vs Gold Rush - Gold Rush by 4
Condors vs Ducks 3 - Close game - Ducks 3 by 1
Hawks Vs Ducks 2 - Close game - Ducks 2 by 1
Kings 2 vs - Wave 2- wave 2 by 2
Empire vs Ice Dogs 2 - close game Empire by 1
Ice dogs 1 vs Bears - Bears by 2
A lot of good match ups this weekend. Close games
Good luck everyone!
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Ducks 2 5-2 against the Ice Hawks, the games was a lot closer than the score indicates. Any other scores?
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Ice Hawks are a decent team. One problem, they play breakaway hockey because they have tons of speed. PP is non-existent.
Bears over Ice Dog 5-3
Ducks 1 over Heat 6-3
Kings 1 over Saints 5-1
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Probably the Lady Ducks because I heard they are traveling out of state this weekend. Another reason why SCAHA didn't want to make their games count because they will miss a lot to travel to girl tournaments and that is not fair to the kids that now have no game. Lady Duck games should be Exhibition only.
Even if the LD were exhibition only the kids would STILL not have a game. So from a playing standpoint it makes no difference.
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Not true... they would of been scheduled to play someone else or would have a bye week so the family could plan for that weekend in advance or knowing it is a bye week some teams schedule extra practices or scrimmages. And it messes up the standings because now the mariners get the 2 points and not all teams get that extra free 2 points. Please don't let them compete unless they cancel their travel weekends.
Give me a break. SCAHA board decided to also not let anyone reschedule. Don't you think the girls want to play all of these games? They're already at a disadvantage in having to travel to get recognized. Its the board that is limiting the options for girls. Yes the schedulers could have recognized that the girls NEED to play in these tournaments and set up their bye weeks. Its different for the girls to get ahead and by limiting them to exhibition games they're still a wasted game for everyone. Don't blame it on the girls blame it on the board. They deserve every right to play and compete for the SCAHA finals.
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They aren't treating them any different than they have treated other teams that wanted to do tournament travel. They simply want to do it more than other teams, and thus face more forfeits and fines.
I'm sure from SCAHA's point of view it is a slippery slope that they don't want to deal with.
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Its pretty easy and not a slippery slope. The boys teams can get ranked and invited to national tournaments and USA nationals simply by playing boys and some normal holiday tourneys. Girls must play against other girls teams to get the ranking. At the 12U and lower they're at the same non-checking level so its more than fair all around (14U should be exhibition since the rules change) and the SCAHA and CAHA boards should recognize that there requirements on the girls that simply can be handled via a scheduling. These tournaments are known prior to the season starting and advised to the board for relief. But none is given and many of you blame the wrong people. If you want to continue to grow hockey in CA then you need to include everyone. How many of the Lady Ducks players are now on the USA Women's National Team playing in this year's Olympics? Given we only have at best 3 organizations with a girls program at all, I'd say the girls have done a lot better than the boys.
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Respectfully, there are a number of holes in your argument. First off, this is Peewee A. National championships and rankings don't fit into this in any way at least on the Boys teams. Peewee A can win SCAHA and/or go to states and that is it. With 22 teams in Peewee A, scheduling is a logistical issue, and with that many teams there are already significant issues with strength of schedule that can effect whether or not a team makes the playoffs. If it's anything like last year the last few spots will come down to a game or 2.
It seems you want the girls to have their cake and eat it too, being able to contend in SCAHA and play in the girls division in tournaments and nationally. That is great for them, and I wish them all the luck in the world, but it doesn't mean that the rest of SCAHA should be re-arranged to cater to them, and it IS a slippery slope, because other teams, particularly at the top of the division, may find it desirable to push their limits by seeking out tournament opportunities during the standard SCAHA schedule as well. It certainly was that way in Squirt A a few years ago. Girls have plenty of options at 12u. They can play on regular boys teams, they can play for a girls team, or in some cases they can play for both.
I don't see how this is important to the state of Socal hockey at this age. This is a development age group, and nobody is recruiting or taking anything too seriously for 12 year olds that are playing no-check. The entire issue is sorted at 14u when things begin to get serious, and you don't see too many girls choosing to play full check travel hockey at 14u.
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Ehh. Hockey is mostly a boy's sport. Any help to promote girls teams and advancement should be considered. Even if that means scheduling around their mandated tournaments and national playing requirements and giving them games in SCAHA. Its only a slippery slope if people get hung up on this approach.
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The point I'm really trying to make is that if you let team (boys and girls) try and reschedule if possible it does give everyone the chance to play. The board decided that they can't reschedule and that limits everyone. There are A level teams that have forfeited games to go play in tournaments. I think you'll see it in the next couple weeks for some really fun tournaments out of town. It is an opportunity for these teams. If the team the ends up with a conflict can work out a rescheduling with the other team that is the best outcome, but not being allowed to even have that opportunity is wrong. The more kids we get playing this sport the better it gets.
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I would say I agree. As long as SCAHA knows about tournaments in advance, and you limit this to one request per season per team. Knowing these facts before the schedule is set in motion should not be an issue and the games will fall into place. Then no one has to reschedule.
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I would say I agree. As long as SCAHA knows about tournaments in advance, and you limit this to one request per season per team. Knowing these facts before the schedule is set in motion should not be an issue and the games will fall into place. Then no one has to reschedule.
That would be a reasonable compromise.
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Ducks 2 5-1 Heat
Any other updates
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Score from Saturday...
LD - 4
Maple Leafs - 0
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Goldrush over Duck(1) 5-2
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Since this site has gone radio silent, I thought I’d have a crack at it this week.
Maple Leads vs Jr Kings 1 – Kings by 3
OCHC vs Ice Dogs 1 – Dogs by 2
Jr Condors vs Heat – Heat by 1
Saints vs Ice Dogs 2 – Saints by 4
Empire vs Jr Ducks 2 – Game of the week Ducks by 3 (reeling from their loss last week)
Mariners vs Jr Kings 2 – Mariners by 1
Wave 1 vs Ice Hawks – Wave by 3
Wave 2 vs Jr Gulls (1) – Wave by 5
Jr Ducks 1 vs Golden Bears – Bears by 2
Lady Ducks vs Jr Reign – Lady Ducks by 4
Jr Ducks 3 vs Goldrush – GR by 3
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I agree with your picks! All except for Mariners vs kings 2. I think Kings 2 will get the win.
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Since this site has gone radio silent, I thought I’d have a crack at it this week.
Maple Leads vs Jr Kings 1 – Kings by 3
OCHC vs Ice Dogs 1 – Dogs by 2
Jr Condors vs Heat – Heat by 1 - Nailed it!
Saints vs Ice Dogs 2 – Saints by 4
Empire vs Jr Ducks 2 – Game of the week Ducks by 3 (reeling from their loss last week)
Mariners vs Jr Kings 2 – Mariners by 1
Wave 1 vs Ice Hawks – Wave by 3
Wave 2 vs Jr Gulls (1) – Wave by 5
Jr Ducks 1 vs Golden Bears – Bears by 2
Lady Ducks vs Jr Reign – Lady Ducks by 4 Nailed IT
Jr Ducks 3 5 vs Goldrush GR by 3
You almost nailed it with the exception of:
OCHC 4 Ice Dogs 2
Saints 7 Ice Dogs 0
Ducks 2 3 Empire 2
You were right about Mariners taking the win!
Wave 1 6 Hawks 0
Wave 2 5 gulls 2 - so close
Ducks 1 1 Bears 2
Lady Ducks 6 Jr reign 4
Ducks 3 1Gold Rush 3
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I only missed 1 game. OCHC’s win. And the spreads were fairly close.
Not sure what you are saying here.
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I only missed 1 game. OCHC’s win. And the spreads were fairly close.
Not sure what you are saying here.
I thought it was great! I said you nailed it except for the ones I mentioned. But yes you were very close on the point spread.
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Thanks. I’m going to retire on top.
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Ducks2 9 - Bears 4, any other updates
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Lady Ducks - 2
Jr. Kings (1) - 2
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Anyone know who won Ice Dogs vs. Mariners?
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So it looks like there is really only 4 top competitive team in PW A this season put off 22 teams. That's kind of sad. Why is that? Too many teams playing AA that should not be?
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In my opinion that is the reason. At the same time, there are teams playing A that should be at BB or B.
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Top six look pretty close to me (3pts). I don't think the disparity between the top and bottom is much different from previous years.
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As of today's standing, teams 1-7 belong in PWA. Teams 8-15, belong in PW BB and the remainder, in PW B. This will all change as the season goes on but the bottom five teams are going to stay where they are.
Not fun waking up a 4 am to drive for two hours (one way) to play a team that is going to get blown out and doesn't have a chance to win. Even less, be competitive... my two cents.
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Perhaps SCAHA could look to expand the flighting system...oh wait, they are! From September's board meeting:
New Business Crissy Finney would like to flight out the Squirt B division. Chris Carcerano asked Crissy Finney to field a committee to review a potential “Squirt C/Squirt B2†flighting format and will report at the next meeting.
That's right, folks, Squirt B flighting! :-X
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Since this site is dead for PeeWee A, I'll throw in my 2 cents. I have been watching my sons team for the entire season and have seen a decline in the performance level and game intensity. I truly think my son was actually playing better hockey at tryouts early in the season. In part, from doing 4 clinics a week with AA teams.
I look at our coaches who seem to be doing there jobs, but can't help to want to blame them for this. My son is moving to bantam and I feel it's the coaches job to ready the kids for the next level. After all, we all know that bantam is where you know if your kid wants to play. Hitting changes everything..
The funny thing is the team is doing well and most likely to get into the playoffs. Does anyone else have the same opinion or am I just way off?
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I definitely agree with you that it is the coach's job to prepare their players for the next level.
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At some level I agree. One of the coaches responsibilities is to help prepare players for the next level.
But an equal weight falls upon the family and the player.
A typical 'A/B' coach has the kids for 2 hours a week + game time.
Most kids that want to take the next step need a liberal dose of stick times, shooting, roller, and other activities that lie outside of coaches window of opportunity.
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I agree with this as well.
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At some level I agree. One of the coaches responsibilities is to help prepare players for the next level.
But an equal weight falls upon the family and the player.
A typical 'A/B' coach has the kids for 2 hours a week + game time.
Most kids that want to take the next step need a liberal dose of stick times, shooting, roller, and other activities that lie outside of coaches window of opportunity.
That and you don't get better in a game,games are where you can showcase your skills.
Kids need to put in time on their own that can include other sports that will help with eye hand coordination and speed.
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At some level I agree. One of the coaches responsibilities is to help prepare players for the next level.
But an equal weight falls upon the family and the player.
A typical 'A/B' coach has the kids for 2 hours a week + game time.
Most kids that want to take the next step need a liberal dose of stick times, shooting, roller, and other activities that lie outside of coaches window of opportunity.
That and you don't get better in a game,games are where you can showcase your skills.
Kids need to put in time on their own that can include other sports that will help with eye hand coordination and speed.
Saying "you don't get better in a game" is completely wrong. While hockey involves skill, speed, and hand eye coordination (as you mentioned) as well as other intangibles; games are the great teacher. While each game unique, games are a series of similar patterns and occurrences. The more you are exposed to seeing those patterns and situations, the easier the game becomes: this is hockey IQ/hockey sense. You can have all the skill in the world, be the fastest player on the planet, but if you are constantly reacting rather than knowing how the game is played, then none of those skills will matter.
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I agree with Mr. Development 100%. I can send you a long list of kids that breeze through drills (skating and shooting) and look smazing. Once the puck drops in a game, they are out position, constantly chasing the puck and make bad decisions. Hockey IQ separates the men from the boys.
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A HOCKEY GAME BY THE NUMBERS :
The following statistics were recorded during a 60-minute Peewee level hockey game:
- Players will have the puck on their stick for an average of 8 seconds per game.
- Players will take an average of 1 – 2 shots per game.
- 99% of the feedback coaches give players is when they have the puck. Ironically players only have the puck on their stick for 0.2% of the game.
- 1 efficient practice will give a player more skill development than 11 games collectively.
A PRACTICE BY THE NUMBERS
The following facts and figures relate to a 60-minute practice session:
- 1 efficient practice will give a player more skill development than 11 games collectively.
- Each player should have a puck on his or her stick for 8 – 12 minutes.
- Each player should have a minimum of 30 shots on goal.
- Players will miss the net over 30% of the time in a minor hockey practice.
- Coaches should try to run 4 – 5 different drills / games / activities each practice. More is not better; execution of what you do is development.
- No more than 5 minutes should be spent in front of a teaching board each practice.
- If you have 10 players on the ice, strive to keep 4 – 5 players moving at all times.
- If you have 15 players on the ice, strive to keep 9 – 10 players moving at all times.
- If you have 20 players on the ice, strive to keep 14 – 15 players moving at all times.
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There's a difference between (1) individual skill development and (2) being able to play hockey. Clinics and skating lessons are great for (1). Games are necessary for (2). Team practices are good for both (1) and (2), but not enough. "No battle plan survives first contact with the enemy."
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There's a difference between (1) individual skill development and (2) being able to play hockey. Clinics and skating lessons are great for (1). Games are necessary for (2). Team practices are good for both (1) and (2), but not enough. "No battle plan survives first contact with the enemy."
I am not saying games are not needed at all.
Just saying this.
Most skills and strength and growth are done outside of actual games.
Sure they need games and contact and to battle and get better ice sense and work on positions.
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There's a difference between (1) individual skill development and (2) being able to play hockey. Clinics and skating lessons are great for (1). Games are necessary for (2). Team practices are good for both (1) and (2), but not enough. "No battle plan survives first contact with the enemy."
I am not saying games are not needed at all.
Just saying this.
Most skills and strength and growth are done outside of actual games.
Sure they need games and contact and to battle and get better ice sense and work on positions.
My comment was not made to detract from practices & the importance of skill and skating development. The statistics you provided are the exact ones I use to encourage families to not play in a spring/summer tournament every other weekend. Practice:game ratio at each level is extremely important. There's a reason squirts and peewees don't play the same amount of games as midget teams. But to say "you don't get better in games" is the kind of misinformation that gets thrown around way too much. There's a reason small area games are used so much in practices. Knowing how to correctly play without the puck (on offense or defense) is just as much a skill as the things you are able to do with it, usually even moreso.
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There's a difference between (1) individual skill development and (2) being able to play hockey. Clinics and skating lessons are great for (1). Games are necessary for (2). Team practices are good for both (1) and (2), but not enough. "No battle plan survives first contact with the enemy."
I am not saying games are not needed at all.
Just saying this.
Most skills and strength and growth are done outside of actual games.
Sure they need games and contact and to battle and get better ice sense and work on positions.
My comment was not made to detract from practices & the importance of skill and skating development. The statistics you provided are the exact ones I use to encourage families to not play in a spring/summer tournament every other weekend. Practice:game ratio at each level is extremely important. There's a reason squirts and peewees don't play the same amount of games as midget teams. But to say "you don't get better in games" is the kind of misinformation that gets thrown around way too much. There's a reason small area games are used so much in practices. Knowing how to correctly play without the puck (on offense or defense) is just as much a skill as the things you are able to do with it, usually even moreso.
I'm with you maybe you don't get better in games was too strong of a statement. Just saying you practice and master skills then showcase them in games.
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A HOCKEY GAME BY THE NUMBERS :
The following statistics were recorded during a 60-minute Peewee level hockey game:
- Players will have the puck on their stick for an average of 8 seconds per game.
- Players will take an average of 1 – 2 shots per game.
- 99% of the feedback coaches give players is when they have the puck. Ironically players only have the puck on their stick for 0.2% of the game.
- 1 efficient practice will give a player more skill development than 11 games collectively.
A PRACTICE BY THE NUMBERS
The following facts and figures relate to a 60-minute practice session:
- 1 efficient practice will give a player more skill development than 11 games collectively.
- Each player should have a puck on his or her stick for 8 – 12 minutes.
- Each player should have a minimum of 30 shots on goal.
- Players will miss the net over 30% of the time in a minor hockey practice.
- Coaches should try to run 4 – 5 different drills / games / activities each practice. More is not better; execution of what you do is development.
- No more than 5 minutes should be spent in front of a teaching board each practice.
- If you have 10 players on the ice, strive to keep 4 – 5 players moving at all times.
- If you have 15 players on the ice, strive to keep 9 – 10 players moving at all times.
- If you have 20 players on the ice, strive to keep 14 – 15 players moving at all times.
So if there are 15 skaters on a team, and each skater touches the puck for an average of 8 seconds, that means skaters have the puck for about 4 minutes of a 45 minute game. I know peewee is not very good hockey, but I kind of doubt these numbers.
One things about games though-they're way more fun for the kids than boring practices.
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Any scores from today? Wave 2 10-6 over Bears.
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Ducks 2 4-1 Kings
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So what will be the final rankings for the #6,7,8,9 spots? Looks like it was close.
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Should be:
Maple Leafs - 6 (more wins)
Empire - 7 (Goal Differential over Lady Ducks)
Lady Ducks - 8 (Goal Differential over Bears)
Bears - 9
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Anyone have any idea when the Playoff schedule will be out?
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Ducks2 5-2 Kings1, Game was a lot closer than the score indicates. First two periods was a dogfight.
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Wave2 vs Wave 1
Jr Duck(2) vs Gold Rush
According to SCAHA
Bracket 2 - Gold Rush and Wave 2 are moving on.
Bracket 1 - will it be the Wave 1 or how about those Kings 1! What a game Yesterday! And Jr Ducks 2 are in.
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The leafs? ?.. Please..
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Final two will be.......
Wave1 and Ducks2
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How do you think the SoCal teams stack up against NorCal for State Finals ?
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I bet Wave makes it into the finals.
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Stockton is the easy favorite to come out of the North, they're unbeaten in Norcal and have done very well in AA competition, winning more games against AA teams than they've lost. If they declared Tier II this year they would have been a flight 1 team. But, anything can happen...
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Final two will be.......
Wave1 and Ducks2
Ducks 2 HC got a game misconduct penalty at the end of their game Sunday. Assuming that means he can't be on the bench for the semi-final game this weekend, but crazier things have happened in the past.
I'll take Wave 1 and Gold Rush to play for the "We Weren't Eligible for AA Playdowns - Flight 3" championship.
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Stockton is the easy favorite to come out of the North, they're unbeaten in Norcal and have done very well in AA competition, winning more games against AA teams than they've lost. If they declared Tier II this year they would have been a flight 1 team. But, anything can happen...
Flight 1, really?
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Stockton is the easy favorite to come out of the North, they're unbeaten in Norcal and have done very well in AA competition, winning more games against AA teams than they've lost. If they declared Tier II this year they would have been a flight 1 team. But, anything can happen...
Flight 1, really?
OC1 AA had a chance to play Stockton in Colorado Springs in February. They're an impressive team that doesn't quit easily. First period was tight but OC1 pulled away as the game went on - ultimately for a 4 or 5 goal victory. Stockton also came from behind to beat a strong AA team in the tourney consolation game. Maybe Stockton doesn't have the depth for AA, but certainly don't count them out as a strong A competitor.
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Wave 1 Wave 2 and Goldrush should of all been playing AA flight 1 this year, but their clubs were not allowed AA this season, so they will be pretty dominate in the state championship run. The true PW A teams this year didn’t have a chance.
I disagree, those teams are true A level teams and not AA Flight 1. The problem with the A division this year is that it was really watered down with teams playing A which should have been BB or B.
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Stockton was playing their 3rd game of the day when they played OC and was the only team that had to play 3 games in a day. Combine that with playing at altitude and might explain tailing off in the second half of the game. Stockton has the top 4 scorers in NorCal and 6 of the top 7 scorers on their team. 18-0 in league play and they have won 10 games against AA opponents. Doesn’t sound like an A team to me. Nobody will ever know how that translates to CA AA Flight 1 because they weren’t playing AA.
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Teams that placed 11th and under definitely should not of been playing A. 5th through 10th were true A teams. The top 4 could of easily played flight 1 AA and the flight 2 teams should of been playing A. Both wave teams scrimmaged some flight 1 AA teams and tied them so yes they should of been playing AA flight 1.
Good luck to the 4 remaining teams this weekend.
Wave 1 and 2 probably had enough kids between them to put together a good AA team, but to say that both could of easily played AA flight 1 is a bit off base. To include Ducks 2 in that conversation is either hubris or reckless.
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Wave 1 and 2 probably had enough kids between them to put together a good AA team, but to say that both could of easily played AA flight 1 is a bit off base. To include Ducks 2 in that conversation is either hubris or reckless.
Would they have been Flight 1 or maybe the Flight 2 season champs?
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Teams that placed 11th and under definitely should not of been playing A. 5th through 10th were true A teams. The top 4 could of easily played flight 1 AA and the flight 2 teams should of been playing A. Both wave teams scrimmaged some flight 1 AA teams and tied them so yes they should of been playing AA flight 1.
It is doubtful you saw much AA this year. Stockton seems like a solid team that should have played AA this season, and I was a bit surprised they didn't. With that said, they lost to GSE2 twice, who finished flight1 in 9th place. I did see that Stockton knocked off the Blackhawks in a game. To claim that the top 4 PWA teams should have been in AA Flight1 is to ignore the results of those rare times when they played up.
Playing lowly ranked AA teams from other states doesn't prove much about local competitiveness which was pretty good. Myhockeyrankings isn't perfect, especially when there isn't enough head to head competition to settle things definitively, but it certainly doesn't agree with you.
There are example to be had, as in for example, JD2 PWA, who played in Tinseltown AA President's day division, went 0-4 including losing to the Flight2 Icedogs. They lost 2-0 to Krivo hockey school, a team that the flight2 champs Valencia beat 8-1. They also lost to the last place Flight2 Reign in the SD tournament. Wave teams of course, would have had at least one team in AA, but it's impossible to say if that team would have been flight2 or flight1.
Goldrush, lost to Flight2 OCHC2 in AZ by a goal. Again you can look at how Valencia did vs. OCHC2 in CAHA...
I understand the frustration of playing in a 22 team division. That system produces anomalies and obviously a lot of blow outs but extrapolating that to a belief they would succeed against higher division teams, when there is little to no data that supports the opinion isn't a great way to go about making that statement.
It does look like Cal hockey is moving towards a Chicago style flighting system, so we will see if this gets adopted by Scaha and becomes institutionalized here.
Bantams is a major reset. Wada wave for example, who won PWAA states last year saw limited Flight2 success this season. Obviously the team wasn't entirely the same one as the year prior, but they not only didn't win Flight2, but also lost in the Flight2 tourney. Bantam is a whole different game, and people who have an '05 should be more worried about a safe and successful transition to "real" hockey and less about whether they played BB, A or AA.
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Teams that placed 11th and under definitely should not of been playing A. 5th through 10th were true A teams. The top 4 could of easily played flight 1 AA and the flight 2 teams should of been playing A. Both wave teams scrimmaged some flight 1 AA teams and tied them so yes they should of been playing AA flight 1.
It is doubtful you saw much AA this year. Stockton seems like a solid team that should have played AA this season, and I was a bit surprised they didn't. With that said, they lost to GSE2 twice, who finished flight1 in 9th place. I did see that Stockton knocked off the Blackhawks in a game. To claim that the top 4 PWA teams should have been in AA Flight1 is to ignore the results of those rare times when they played up.
Playing lowly ranked AA teams from other states doesn't prove much about local competitiveness which was pretty good. Myhockeyrankings isn't perfect, especially when there isn't enough head to head competition to settle things definitively, but it certainly doesn't agree with you.
There are example to be had, as in for example, JD2 PWA, who played in Tinseltown AA President's day division, went 0-4 including losing to the Flight2 Icedogs. They lost 2-0 to Krivo hockey school, a team that the flight2 champs Valencia beat 8-1. They also lost to the last place Flight2 Reign in the SD tournament. Wave teams of course, would have had at least one team in AA, but it's impossible to say if that team would have been flight2 or flight1.
Goldrush, lost to Flight2 OCHC2 in AZ by a goal. Again you can look at how Valencia did vs. OCHC2 in CAHA...
I understand the frustration of playing in a 22 team division. That system produces anomalies and obviously a lot of blow outs but extrapolating that to a belief they would succeed against higher division teams, when there is little to no data that supports the opinion isn't a great way to go about making that statement.
It does look like Cal hockey is moving towards a Chicago style flighting system, so we will see if this gets adopted by Scaha and becomes institutionalized here.
Bantams is a major reset. Wada wave for example, who won PWAA states last year saw limited Flight2 success this season. Obviously the team wasn't entirely the same one as the year prior, but they not only didn't win Flight2, but also lost in the Flight2 tourney. Bantam is a whole different game, and people who have an '05 should be more worried about a safe and successful transition to "real" hockey and less about whether they played BB, A or AA.
For you 05 parents that believe you lil Gretzky is going to dominate Bantams in your minor year are in for a shock. Even the shity 04 teams are going to give you trouble. HUGE physical jump from minor to major major year. WW was a physical/skilled team their PW year yet they were usually outmatched physically by the major year bantams this year. Having a 2 flight system ( if they have it next year) will help minor year teams. Just be happy if your lil Greyzkys doesn' get hurt. Bright spot....the folling year, if he' still playing, won' t be a lil Greyzky any more. :)
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Valencia was Flight 2 top seed after the season, but lost in the playoffs for flight 1. The Flight 2 Champions were the Jr Kings, not Valencia. Jr. Kings had defeated Valencia in the Presidents day tourney a few weeks early as well. On another note, looking back a couple posts in AA, Jr. Kings defeated Ducks 1 5-4 but apparently they didn't have their best kids, although several AAA from the previous season were in attendance. Funny, because the 05 AAA team played the full crew this week and were missing several of their top players. They, on the other hand, were still able to defeat Ducks 1 handedly 6 to 2. Good lucks Ducks 1. You'll need it!
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Bear71, since you always like bringing up the Ducks 2 I will be more than happy to post when our tryouts are for next year. No guarantees either of our kids will make it though!!!! Sunday will be a tough game, come join us in Valencia on Sunday since I know you guys have been on Vacation since March 4th. Lol
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Bear71, since you always like bringing up the Ducks 2 I will be more than happy to post when our tryouts are for next year. No guarantees either of our kids will make it though!!!! Sunday will be a tough game, come join us in Valencia on Sunday since I know you guys have been on Vacation since March 4th. Lol
Didn't know there was room available in the Hobo Village (copyright Kangaroo Jack). I know the Ducks typically get preferential treatment, but I was under the impression that tryouts were June 1 for everyone, but thanks for looking out for my son.
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Bear71, we have two spots for sure, their moving up. Rumor has it that they may have a shorter bench and are looking for a cheerleader if your interested. Lol
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Valencia was Flight 2 top seed after the season, but lost in the playoffs for flight 1. The Flight 2 Champions were the Jr Kings, not Valencia. Jr. Kings had defeated Valencia in the Presidents day tourney a few weeks early as well.
That's hilarious. Flight2 champions! Did you guys get a banner for that?
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of course we got a banner we won the championsip
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of course we got a banner we won the championsip
Indeed you won the end of year round robin of teams that were between 12th and 15th in the standings. Kudos.
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Well the Flyers tried to fly too high and their wings got burned and they tumbled into the sea. It's the ancient tragic tale of a classic case of hubris that plays out over and over in life even to this day.
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Well the Flyers tried to fly too high and their wings got burned and they tumbled into the sea. It's the ancient tragic tale of a classic case of hubris that plays out over and over in life even to this day.
It's the tale of a team that was made up of older kids that were better than yours, and outplayed and outshot your team in every game they played you, typically with the margin being 10+ shots. The coach also played our 3rd line against your team -- a lot - sorry to break it to you. True story! In your glorious victory at President's day, where you got out to a big lead and then held on for dear life, all your goals were scored against the 3rd line, except for a PP goal. You did score any number of PP goals against us, and candidly, our PK was not good all year, and I think we could have done a lot better but it was never prioritized as something we should practice for, unfortunately.
Your goalie is really good and kept you in a lot of games. Loved watching that kid compete, and truthfully i admire the compete of most of your kids going up against our mostly older kids... yet I digress.
Anyways, we won the opportunity to have a one game winner take all playoff vs. the flight1 8th place team and then went up and won that playoff, winning the opportunity to play in the play downs as #8. We had no interest in a Flight2 playoff against teams we had already beaten numerous times, as it didn't seem like much of an achievement to win.
At the start of the season, we had a reasonable goal of making the Flight1 playoffs. Due to circumstances beyond our control our team was placed in Flight2, but we overcame that obstacle, and got to the play downs. In doing so, any reasonable competitor of ours should have been congratulating our kids and rooting for us, as it gives credibility to your results, but I realize that is not how you roll.
Out of our 2 play down games, we were in one we played close, had many scoring chances and might have won, but did not. Not at all a bad way to end the season. We made the CAHA play downs and you played in a consolation SCAHA tournament that was hatched partway through the season.
As to how CAHA looks at this, as we both had the unfortunate experience of being experimental offering for the new flight system, the powers that be put so little thought into it, that they didn't even code the statistics system to keep track of Flight2 team scoring in the playins, play downs, or the Flight2 tournament. That is the last laugh, and it was on both of us.
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Hey,
Isn’t this a Peewee A blog?
Who’s got a line on this weekend’s SCAHA 12U A Final?
I smell a low scoring game... I’ve always been partial to the Goldrush. Most depth in the league... In my opinion.
But that Wave 1 team has been very impressive all year.
Go Peewee A!
:-)
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I don't know what these guys are talking about... Call me stupid...
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Gold rush vs Wave (1)--- 2-1 or 3-2 anyone's game. Will be a god one to watch..
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I don't know what these guys are talking about... Call me stupid...
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Well the Flyers tried to fly too high and their wings got burned and they tumbled into the sea. It's the ancient tragic tale of a classic case of hubris that plays out over and over in life even to this day.
It's the tale of a team that was made up of older kids that were better than yours, and outplayed and outshot your team in every game they played you, typically with the margin being 10+ shots. The coach also played our 3rd line against your team -- a lot - sorry to break it to you. True story! In your glorious victory at President's day, where you got out to a big lead and then held on for dear life, all your goals were scored against the 3rd line, except for a PP goal. You did score any number of PP goals against us, and candidly, our PK was not good all year, and I think we could have done a lot better but it was never prioritized as something we should practice for, unfortunately.
Your goalie is really good and kept you in a lot of games. Loved watching that kid compete, and truthfully i admire the compete of most of your kids going up against our mostly older kids... yet I digress.
Anyways, we won the opportunity to have a one game winner take all playoff vs. the flight1 8th place team and then went up and won that playoff, winning the opportunity to play in the play downs as #8. We had no interest in a Flight2 playoff against teams we had already beaten numerous times, as it didn't seem like much of an achievement to win.
At the start of the season, we had a reasonable goal of making the Flight1 playoffs. Due to circumstances beyond our control our team was placed in Flight2, but we overcame that obstacle, and got to the play downs. In doing so, any reasonable competitor of ours should have been congratulating our kids and rooting for us, as it gives credibility to your results, but I realize that is not how you roll.
Out of our 2 play down games, we were in one we played close, had many scoring chances and might have won, but did not. Not at all a bad way to end the season. We made the CAHA play downs and you played in a consolation SCAHA tournament that was hatched partway through the season.
As to how CAHA looks at this, as we both had the unfortunate experience of being experimental offering for the new flight system, the powers that be put so little thought into it, that they didn't even code the statistics system to keep track of Flight2 team scoring in the playins, play downs, or the Flight2 tournament. That is the last laugh, and it was on both of us.
sorry to break it to you but our coach played our third line against you too. A lot. That's how hockey players are developed, if you have to bury your third line against better teams (in your case kids the same age as yours) then you're doing it wrong. And somehow I doubt your coach shortened the bench to give your third line more time in the President's Day tourney when you were down 5-1 to us in the 2nd period. What happened in the other playdown game?
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ICADAD - Go with whatever helps you sleep at night! Your 05 lost to a group of 07's. Two other times they barely defeated them. Also hate to break it to you, but the goalie for the Kings wasn't making saves while the kids were putting the puck in your net. Good luck in Bantams!
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oh - and please do tell us how you lost to the Jr. Grizzlies at Presidents Day? Did they too have a bunch of no good 07's and the best goalie in the world? They were crushed by the Seattle team that barely defeated the Kings 07. Was your third line playing for the Grizzlies that day?
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Feel free to move this to AA and let the PW A people have a rest. ::)
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Congratulations to Wave 1 on their SCAHA championship! It sounds like it was an amazing game. Good luck to both teams as they head up north!
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Congratulations to Wave 1 on their SCAHA championship! It sounds like it was an amazing game. Good luck to both teams as they head up north!
North Riverside? :P
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It’s in Riverside?? I thought everyone always had to go to San Jose.
Ok then,
Good luck to Wave 1 and Gold Rush as they drive inland!
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Does anyone know who won the PeeWee A State Championship?
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Stockton Colts won Peewee A. Undefeated season in league and playoffs. Although a couple close calls to California Cougars.
Impressive.