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Hockey Discussions => Midget Hockey => Topic started by: Puck Yeah on July 24, 2017, 06:25:45 AM
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We have San Jose right around the corner. I have learned that the flight system can be divided at the leisure of the board. So that means the flights could be 8/8, 10,6 or ? Although I am unsure about this flight system that makes more sense than an arbitrary cut off at two flights of 8 if the middle of the pack teams are close. There will always be a few teams that don't belong.
What are the picks for the top 5 teams this year?
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1. Duck 1 or Wave 1
2. GSE 1
3. Sharks
4. Flyers
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1. Duck 1 or Wave 1
2. GSE 1
3. Sharks
4. Flyers
The Wave will be that strong? They are seeking two more players.
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Just wondering why 16AA would have so many teams with the draw of High School hockey now? I thought there would be way less. And why play 16/18AA when the High School Varsity seems to be pretty good?
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Just wondering why 16AA would have so many teams with the draw of High School hockey now? I thought there would be way less. And why play 16/18AA when the High School Varsity seems to be pretty good?
"pretty good" is subjective.
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Just wondering why 16AA would have so many teams with the draw of High School hockey now? I thought there would be way less. And why play 16/18AA when the High School Varsity seems to be pretty good?
Many players play both.
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...... and back to the prediction of the top 5 teams.......
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For the North Tier II teams, here's my prediction -
Flight 1
Santa Clara 1
San Jose
GSE
Flight 2
Santa Clara 2
Oakland
All 3 North Flight 1 teams should be decent again like last season, with Santa Clara 1 winning the State Championship again.
Which South teams are looking studly?
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The Flyers have nine 02s rostered but may do well as there are some boys that played together as the Riptide getting back together again. There are some fairly strong 02s in the mix as well. Their challenge will be size. They have to be one of the smallest teams out there.
Top 5? Maybe.
I would like to know more about the Wave this year.
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Per the SCAHA Meeting Notes from July...
Chris Carcerano went through the Tier II Flights/Jamboree format. He advised the presidents to plan on having 4-5 games for each Tier II team. The cost to the teams is $900/team. Participation is mandatory. Teams that elect not to participate will be ineligible to participate as a Tier II team in CAHA. Chris informed the presidents that CAHA needs evaluators. There is no reimbursement of coaches as evaluators if they are already there with their teams; others (coaches that do not have any teams at the Tier II Jamboree) will need approval from CAHA.
So, per the above statement, the coaches will be working as evaluators during the jamboree??? Well this outta be interesting...
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schedules came out and they are interesting.
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Any scrimmage scores to report from this weekend?
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how many returning players do the blackhawks have from their state championship team?
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Kinda quiet on here. What going on up north?
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https://stats.caha.timetoscore.com/display-stats?league=16 (https://stats.caha.timetoscore.com/display-stats?league=16)
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So looks like 2 top dogs are SCB1 and JD1....... Biggest surprise OCHC2. Wave1 in the mix.
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So looks like 2 top dogs are SCB1 and JD1....... Biggest surprise OCHC2. Wave1 in the mix.
I agree, but dont forget valencia.
Rumor around rink is that they will be splitting the division
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8 and 8? 10 and 6? Who is in? Out?
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Blackhawks 1 beat Valencia 4-0 and out shot them.
Only a couple of games with real wide margins in scoring unless you think 6-1 is a real wide margin. They could not split them up but probably will go 10 and 6 - maybe 9 and 7.
However we'll see - nothing in CAHA would surprise me anymore.
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From what I saw this weekend Blawkhawks were a much better team the JD1. Did they play each other this weekend?
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From what I saw this weekend Blawkhawks were a much better team the JD1. Did they play each other this weekend?
Yes they Tied 3-3
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OC's numbering appears to be backwards. OC2 is actually the older team with majority 01's and OC1 is almost pure 02. OC2 had a very good weekend and OC1 got one of the toughest draws out there but competed fairly well most of the time.
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Is there a time anticipated for the Decision regarding the flights?
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how many returning players do the blackhawks have from their state championship team?
Hearing 9 Blackhawks back from last season's state championship team. They showed some great chemistry already during the SJ labor day games.
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Hearing the divisions won't be announced till September 15ish.
Hope they keep the 16AA teams in 1 division. If they do split them, I'm thinking it'll be 8 top & 8 lower. My guess is:
Top Tier (In no particular order)
Ducks 1
Wave 1
Blackhawks 1
OC 2
GSE
Flyers
Bubble teams - all pretty equal. (In no particular order)
Jr Sharks
Ducks 2
Condors
Maple Leafs
Lower Tier (In no particular order)
Wave 2
Blackhawks 2
OC1
Oakland
Reign
Heat
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Pretty solid list with one comment. OC1 should probably be in the bubble group. They had a brutal draw and had to play 3 teams in a row from your top group...GSE, Flyers and Wave1. Wave1 is probably the only game that wasn't very competitive. Their only game outside the top group was a 4-1 win over the Heat. It would have been interesting to see them get an opportunity to play against one of the other bubble teams. Too bad they didn't get that chance.
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This is how I see it.
Top Tier (In no particular order)
Ducks 1
Wave 1
Blackhawks 1
OC 2
GSE
Flyers
TTier 2 (In no particular order)
Ducks 2
Condors
Maple Leafs
OC1
Oakland
Reign
Move To A
Heat
Wave 2
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Not sure if true or not, but I heard rumors they were trying to keep all the 16AA's together.
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USA HOCKEY=Progression and Development
CAHA jamboree=Anti-USA HOCKEY
That jamboree goes against everything Usa Hockey is working for!!
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USA HOCKEY=Progression and Development
CAHA jamboree=Anti-USA HOCKEY
That jamboree goes against everything Usa Hockey is working for!!
Jedi, I can see what you mean. Many of us suspect there to be some political shenanigans that will affect the entire process. I am still willing to wait and give the CAHA folks the opportunity to do the right thing. If, in the next couple weeks, we find out that some of the poor performing teams have been gifted spots in the top flight, we'll all know the real deal: It's who you know and what jersey you wear. I am speaking about 12u, 14u and 16u.
That said, CAHA has a terrific opportunity to show the entire California hockey community that ALL kids count, not just those in the "favored" clubs.
Let's keep our fingers crossed that reasonable people prevail.
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I agree. This is where the rubber hits the road. There is no overthinking this. You draw two lines. Line 1 = any team above line 1 is in flight 1, below line teams are flight 2.
Then draw a second line. Any teams below this second line go to A.
It like ripping off a band-aid. Do it quickly and without prejudice. It will sting for a minute, but it will be over and done with. Then we all move on
Otherwise you just missed the two foot put that sitting in front of you.
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This is how I see it.
Top Tier (In no particular order)
Ducks 1
Wave 1
Blackhawks 1
OC 2
GSE
Flyers
TTier 2 (In no particular order)
Ducks 2
Condors
Maple Leafs
OC1
Oakland
Reign
Move To A
Heat
Wave 2
Face Wash -
You left off the Sharks & Blackhawks 2.
I can't see Sharks being dropped to Tier 2, considering their one of the BIG clubs.
NORCAL doesn't have a 16A division, so dropping any NORCAL team from 16AA would mean dropping them to the NORCAL HS league.
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Flights and Tiers. Sounds like Midget AA has too many kids, too many teams?
I don't think so. It is a bad idea. As a parent who knows the 2001 and 2002 birthyear as well as anyone in this state, I would make the following comments:
1. Keep it 16 teams. These are virtually the same kids who have played each other since PW AA.
2. You never know what can happen. You play a good game against a Strong Team in the AM and then you lose in the PM. A key kid gets hurt or suspended and your whole outcome can be different.
3. It may be the last year of pretty good competitive hockey for the AA 2001s, you cannot and should not determine the strength of a team based upon LABOR DAY.
4. So many minor birthyear teams look good over LABOR Day and don't make Playdowns as they are outgrown and outpaced over the next six months by the older boys.
5. Year after year PW AA, Bantam AA, and even last year, there were major surprises. Teams surpassed other teams, teams caved under pressure when no one thought that was possible. Teams came out of nowhere. In PW AA my son's team was never given a chance and they made State Finals. In Bantam AA, my son's team was a non factor and they finished 5th and even in Midget AA last year, many teams came out of nowhere, teams faltered and the top team failed miserably. I could go on and on.
6. 6 team leagues suck. Even 8 teams leagues kind of suck. Everyone needs a variety to keep it interesting and 4 or 5 CAHA weekends are great!
I wasn't in San Jose and for the first time in a decade, I missed my son's games. But I do know that clubs intentionally delayed games if they had the lead. One team didn't even shake hands after the game. And there should have been stop time with under 2 minutes to go. The concept was kind of cool but to give some teams a hall pass to Playdowns in February based upon Labor Day outcomes or subjective opinions is absurd. No sport pre-determines their Playoffs. Let the kids battle it out. You never know what can happen. My son's team beat a purported Top Tier Team in Midget AA last Labor Day and lost by February to the same team.
Caha has taken on a great experiment with this concept and I can understand perhaps at PWAA or maybe even Bantam AA, maybe the kids are not well known, but by Midget AA and only 16 teams...don't really need another experiment. We had that last year and it wasn't fun at all. One off games, not enough CAHA weekend bonding for the kids.
May everyone have a great season even though it started two months too early...best of luck.
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So...what is the story about the Jr. Kings not have a Midget Tier II team for the 2nd year in a row? And why is it that I heard a few years back, they had some sort of restriction, not allowing their kids to play for the Jr. Ducks? What kind of slip-shod organization is this and why does CAHA allow this sort of mismanagement of a club? It is really messed up when you live in the South Bay and you have to drive to either Artesia, the Valley or further for Tier II hockey. I guess it must have something to do with their high school program?
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Ducks 1 vs OCHC 2 ....5 to 0. that tells one story. These two teams played to a 0 to 0 tie just a week ago. The real story is that in those two games, the shots are approximately 75 to 10.
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So...what is the story about the Jr. Kings not have a Midget Tier II team for the 2nd year in a row? And why is it that I heard a few years back, they had some sort of restriction, not allowing their kids to play for the Jr. Ducks? What kind of slip-shod organization is this and why does CAHA allow this sort of mismanagement of a club? It is really messed up when you live in the South Bay and you have to drive to either Artesia, the Valley or further for Tier II hockey. I guess it must have something to do with their high school program?
JK Midget u16 became a disaster zone. My son tried out last season, only 10 skaters showed. Many kids prior left JK for other programs, and HS. Seemed like the interest by the organization just isn't there, especially for 02 birth year.
I don't think the JK organization will stop a kid from moving teams, but 1 coach in particular was upset over kids moving to other programs. I saw all the reactions first hand.
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They did not ever try for 16 and 18 AA teams the last 2 years. Zero information or clinics prior to tryouts so kids could skate and get a feel for coaches. They seem happy with AAA and nothing else at 16-18. Pretty sad to be honest.
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Weren't there rules in place that clubs had to have "feeder" clubs to have a Tier I team? The only feeder clubs to the JK Tier I is from other clubs and out of state.
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Weren't there rules in place that clubs had to have "feeder" clubs to have a Tier I team? The only feeder clubs to the JK Tier I is from other clubs and out of state.
Tier 1 - 8.1 Mission Statement - a - apply for team by 1/15 of year for next season; b - Have 2 or more Tier II teams in current and previous season (no level requirement); c - Approved by CAHA - deemed to be competitive
8.3 - Have 2 or more Tier II teams in current and previous season - (any level) - so does not have to be same age group.
Tier II
9.3 - Have three (3) or more Tier 1 teams in A, BB or B in the current and previous seasons - excludes High School - no age level requirement, just 3 teams.
So no need for JK to have 16U AA to have AAA - just need two AA teams across all age groups.
Player Development Requirement
6.23 - 25% of players on team must be returning from same club prior year - other 75% can come from anywhere.
Past movement rule asked about- no Kings to Ducks - that was just a 2 year transition rule - AAA only - when Jr. Ducks entered the Tier 1 Elite League the JK were already part of. JK had OC players they did not want to lose - Jr. Ducks wanted in Tier 1 Elite League, so they agreed to not sign any JK player who played the prior season with JK. That was a 2 year period that has expired - no longer any movement restriction between JK and JD at AAA level.
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Weren't there rules in place that clubs had to have "feeder" clubs to have a Tier I team? The only feeder clubs to the JK Tier I is from other clubs and out of state.
that was only one year, 3 seasons ago. Obviously it wasn't going to work out for the Jr Kings, so they changed it.
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Any scores from today?
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does anyone know if CAHA is going to use recent scaha games to make their decision on the flight system or have they already made up their minds from the jamboree
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Not sure however the website said that they would schedule games over the 2 weeks following the Jamboree. However I do not know if recent games were scheduled by CAHA or the individual teams. Hope they make their decisions soon. I'm almost positive my son's team will be Flight 1 unless something funky happens or they don't divide the 16 AA division.
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Wasn't CAHA supposed to announce the divisions/schedule on 9/15?
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The Jamboree information stated that they would play games up to 2 weeks later to determine the flights. So the 15th seems to be a little early if they wer going to have 2 weeks of games after the Jamboree.
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Also see a September 23rd meeting for CAHA. So they may decide at that meeting too. Who knows?
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Also see a September 23rd meeting for CAHA. So they may decide at that meeting too. Who knows?
This would be my guess as to when they set flights.
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wtf, a week before a caha weekend. :o
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Are the scores on SCAHA correct for this last weekend?
Wave1 & Reign tied 0-0 ?
Anyone know the scores from the two Flyers games?
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Flyers scores:
9/10 v. Maple Leafs - Flyers won 9-1
9/17 v. Lady Ducks - Flyers won 13-0
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Are the scores on SCAHA correct for this last weekend?
Wave1 & Reign tied 0-0 ?
Anyone know the scores from the two Flyers games?
Actually Wave 1 Beat Reign 5-1 and outshot them 65-14
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So based on the first 2 SCAHA games, does anyone feel like anything has changed regarding the "flight" placement (at least for the south teams)? I don't... If I was pressed to make a change, I would say OC-2 has dropped from Top Flight to Bubble, but I'm not convinced that is the case.
The area that is going to create hard feelings is the "Bubble" group. You could argue that the Sharks can slide up to the Top Flight, but where do you place the other 3? I think they all have to go in one division or the other. It would be hard to say one of Ducks-2, Condors, OC-1 is better than the other two.
Top Flight (no order)
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Wave 1
Ducks 1
Flyers
OC 2
GSE
Blackhawks 1
Bubble
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Ducks 2 (Beat OC 2 - beat Condors, lost to OC 1 - tied Maple Leafs)
OC 1 (No wins vs top flight teams - lost to Condors, beat Ducks 2 - no games played vs 2nd flight)
Condors (No wins vs top flight teams - beat OC 1 - *lost* to Wave 2)
Sharks (No wins vs top flight teams - beat Condors - wins vs all 2nd flight teams they've played)
2nd Flight (no order)
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Reign
Maple Leafs
Heat
Wave 2
Oakland
Blackhawks 2
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just got the email from our coach -
Flight 1
Blackhawks(1)
Ducks(1)
Ducks(2)
Flyers
GSE
OCHC(2)
Sharks
Wave(1)
Flight 2
Blackhawks(2)
Condors
Heat
Leafs
Oakland
OCHC(1)
Reign
Wave(2)
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Sharks and Ducks 2 should be in the lower division!
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The fix was in for the Sharks from the get-go. Their schedule at the Jamboree
Wave 1
Blackhawks 2
Leafs
Condors
Compared to OC1 schedule at Jamboree
Wave 1
GSE
Flyers
Heat
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Midget 16AA CAHA Weekend #4 cancelled. Riverside January 5-7, 2018 taken off the CAHA Tier II weekends schedule.
Some teams already received their schedule. 14 CAHA game schedule as each team plays the teams in their flight twice.
http://www.caha.com/tierIIweekends.pl
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CAHA finally has the schedules up on their site.
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So it's very quiet in here, thoughts on the two divisions?
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Sharks & Ducks 2 will battle for the last playoff spot in Flight 1
OC1 & Condors will battle for the single playoff spot in Flight 2
Not sure which of those scenarios is more enviable.
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Because things aren't convoluted enough, it would be reasonable to have the top 2 flight II teams play each other for a chance at a playoff spot in flight I. Especially if the top two teams are close in standings. That would make the flight II play a little more interesting and give the flight II teams something a bit more to play for.
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What if there is a tie (or worse, a 3-way tie) at the top of the Flight II standings at the end of the season? They'd be forced to hold some sort of pre-playoff playoff. And what if the tie involved teams from both the North and the South? Tack on Monday games in Vacaville?
CAHA has already thought of this, right? (doesn't bother to look at CAHA guidebook)
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What if there is a tie (or worse, a 3-way tie) at the top of the Flight II standings at the end of the season? They'd be forced to hold some sort of pre-playoff playoff. And what if the tie involved teams from both the North and the South? Tack on Monday games in Vacaville?
CAHA has already thought of this, right? (doesn't bother to look at CAHA guidebook)
No such thing as a tie
10.9 CAHA SCHEDULED WEEKENDS:
c. Following the completion of the CAHA Scheduled Weekends, if two (2) or more teams have an equal number of points, their position in the standings shall be determined by the current USA Hockey tie breaking procedures.
FROM USA HOCKEY
(e) YOUTH, GIRLS’/WOMEN’S AND HIGH SCHOOL VARSITY
AND/OR PREP SCHOOL – Tie Breaking Rules to Determine Standings Position
If two or more teams have an equal number of points, their position in the standings shall be determined by the following tiebreaking format. If one tie-breaker establishes a position for one or more teams, each team is placed in the applicable position. Once a team is placed, the remaining tied teams shall start the tiebreaking process over again at step 1. (If all tied teams have not played each other, then proceed to step 2. Note: a team may go into the tiebreaking process having defeated another of the tied teams and still not advance).
The tie-breaker formulas are as follows:
1. The results of the head-to-head games played between the tied teams in the following order:
a. Standings — Most points.
b. Most total wins.
c. Differential — Subtracting goals scored against from goals scored in these games, the positions being determined in order of the greatest surplus.
d. Quotient — Dividing the goals scored in these games by the goals scored against, the positions being determined in order of the greatest quotient. A quotient involving dividing by zero (0) has higher standing than a quotient from dividing by any number other than zero. Where two or more teams have no goals against and the quotient tiebreaker is required, the teams shall be ranked high to low in descending order of “goals for.â€
2. If after applying the formulas of 1 a, b, c or d the tie still exists, the results of all the games played by the teams tied in the following order.
a. Most total wins.
b. Differential — Subtracting goals scored against from goals scored in these games, the positions being determined in order of the greatest surplus.
c. Quotient — Dividing the goals scored in these games by the goals scored against, the positions being determined in order of the greatest quotient. A quotient involving dividing by zero (0) has higher standing than a quotient from dividing by any number other than zero. Where two or more teams have no goals against and the quotient tiebreaker is required, the teams shall be ranked high to low in descending order of “goals for.â€
d. Most periods won — In the games played by each tied team, points will be awarded for each regulation period won (2 points) and for each regulation period tied (1 point). Positions shall be in the order of highest point total.
e. Quickest first goal — The team that scored the quickest goal in their preliminary round games shall be ranked highest.
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Any scores from the weekend besides the two that are posted on scaha?
Wave 1 Over Flyers 3-1
Ducks 2 Over LD 4-0
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I did not see either games so I do not know the circumstances.
However I do not know which is more surprising - that GSE tied the Ducks 1 or ties the Jr. Sharks.
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I know and and then Ducks tie Wave 1, looks like Wave 1 was the strongest team this weekend!
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I know and and then Ducks tie Wave 1, looks like Wave 1 was the strongest team this weekend!
Wave 1 is clearly a top team, but not sure a tie with the Ducks 1 who out shot them 2 to 1 makes them the strongest team. Wave 1 still has to play GSE and Blackhawks who should round out the top 4.
Either way, this is looking like it will be a good season where every game is a game.
Anybody want to join with me to say that maybe CAHA got this right. What a great weekend with a lot of great hockey games. I am really looking forward to the next CAHA weekend, unfortunately, we still have to play the bottom teams in SCAHA. One thing at a time I guess.
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hear! hear! :)
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Anybody want to join with me to say that maybe CAHA got this right. What a great weekend with a lot of great hockey games. I am really looking forward to the next CAHA weekend, unfortunately, we still have to play the bottom teams in SCAHA. One thing at a time I guess.
agreed! Looking forward to some more competitive hockey at the next CAHA weekend. At least you guys have games to play, up here in Norcal we have to find scrimmages where we can.
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Anyone here going to do game predictions for this weekend?
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Should prove an interesting weekend. All teams are closely ranked at Myhockeyrankings with the JD, Blackhawks and Wave at 11, 21 and 27th, but within a point of each other.
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A little separation is starting to happen, Wave1 remain top dog followed closely by the Ducks1. Ducks1 had close games with Ducks 2 and Valencia, Wave also had close games through 2 periods with Blackhawks and GSE. Very tight division and there's still a lot of hockey to play. Looking forward to seeing Wave1 vs. Ducks1 in Valencia.
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Good to see 4 close games today. Tomorrow may be different however. But maybe not. That's why they play the games. ;D
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Wave 1 and JD1...that is what youth hockey is all about. Great games between these two who will fight it out to the end. Makes for very exciting playoffs down the line where anything can happen and often does!
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A little separation is starting to happen, Wave1 remain top dog followed closely by the Ducks1. Ducks1 had close games with Ducks 2 and Valencia, Wave also had close games through 2 periods with Blackhawks and GSE. Very tight division and there's still a lot of hockey to play. Looking forward to seeing Wave1 vs. Ducks1 in Valencia.
Tight game with Wave 1 and Valencia yesterday. Flyers lead much of the game. Final 2-2.
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Much of the weekend went like expected, Ducks1 and Wave1 had a great game and like the last game was very close, in the end Wave1 won 1-0.
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lets get a little post season chatter going....
PREDICTION--Maple Leafs will decline the opportunity to play the sharks in the play in game for the Tier 2 play downs. Thought process--if you are the maple leaf parents, do you want to spend the money and time to go to San Jose for one game? If you lose that is a very expensive one game....By the way, if you win, then you get to go to Vacaville one week later for only two games with the first being against Ducks 1 who just beat them in Pasadena 11-0. The 2nd game would be against Ducks 2 or Valencia both of whom crushed them earlier this year, 12-0 and 9-1 respectively. I will be shocked if the parents from Pasadena are willing to spend all that money for the potential to get beat up in Vacaville. If i were on that team, my vote would be NO THANKS. Thoughts?
Valencia could be back in form for play downs if they can get some players back. While they have been struggling lately, it is due to a very shortened bench. Word on the street is that some players will be back for play downs.
Ducks 2 are the most improved team in the division. They definitely have a chance to make it through play downs. They have beat both the wave and ducks 1 this year.
Are the brackets being done properly? Should it be 1-4-5-8 and 2-3-6-7, or should it be 1-2-7-8 and 3-4-5-6? If we want to make the regular season mean something, the latter would be the way to go. Thoughts?
There is going to be some good hockey in Vacaville. Please provide your predictions for who makes it through play downs into states.
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lets get a little post season chatter going....
Valencia could be back in form for play downs if they can get some players back. While they have been struggling lately, it is due to a very shortened bench. Word on the street is that some players will be back for play downs.
Injury, CAHA discipline and other issues have plagued the Flyers lately. A very talented but uncoachable forward gets benched frequently. Just 2 Defenseman for the GSE and Sharks games last weekend and they were down to 1 Defenseman 20 seconds into the Ducks 1 game. Another 1st period injury resulted in a loss of a forward. It is an understatement to say "short benched". Playdowns are very up in the air for them right now.
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Interesting weekend at the Playdowns... Both Ducks teams, GSE, and the Flyers advance. You have to wonder what happened to the mighty Blackhawks and Wave teams? My opinion, was that the Wave team was going to be a representative at nationals. Oc and the Sharks were just outmatched.
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From what I saw of the Wave team they are big, physical, and talented but could be outskated. Didn't see any of their games in the playdowns to see if that is what happened or not.
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Did the Blackhawks have injuries? Did GSE have a stellar goalie steal a game... any opinions?
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Blackhawks had one of their centers break his collar bone last weekend. Another player was playing with a broken big toe and then separated his shoulder. Those are the injuries that I know of. GSE goalie was pretty solid and they only had 11 skaters in their first game. I missed their second game.
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Predictions...
At States:
1st Place: Ducks1 (Too Strong on Defense to lose!)
2nd Place: GSE (Goalie comes up Huge!)
3rd Place: Ducks2 (Competitive, but not deep enough!)
4th Place: Flyers (Just too small)
Any other ideas or opinions?
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Interesting. I see things a bit differently:
1. Ducks (1)
2. Flyers
3. GSE
Ducks (2)
Ducks (1) is tough to beat! They are beatable though. Flyers have 4 of the top 10 goal scorers in the Flight - and they like to shoot!. It's a toss up for third place. GSE has been getting better, but I don't think they have all the pieces together just yet. Last weekend had some great effort by their goalie, but overall, both goalies are not stellar. Ducks (2) has a lot of enthusiasm and momentum on their side. I see them as more of a threat for second than GSE. Just my $.02 since you put it out there. No matter how it shakes out, it will be a lot of fun! Good luck to all participants.
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The Flyers have been "too small" all season. That hasn't changed.
Duck 1 is surely the favored team to take it all but "on any given Sunday" as it goes. GSE has been the spoiler of late season and also beat the Flyers in Vegas. Flyers upset the Wave, Duck 2 upset the Flyers with an OT win.
I think both GSE and the Flyers can beat Ducks 1 if the play well and the Goalies have a great game. When the Flyers do as coached they do well, when they start playing "showcase" hockey not so much.
I guess that is why they play the game. It should be a great weekend of hockey.
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Well here it is... The State Finals. Who predicted the four teams?
Here are the stories as I see it... At this level...
Ducks 1: Will Defense win? Will the core be able to crack but not break under pressure? It is theirs to loose.
Valencia: Will Offense win? Does size matter? Do special teams win big games? Lets see...
Ducks 2: Playing with "House Money..." Will Cinderella's shoe drop? Will a Goalie steal a game? Will shot blocking help them win? Once again, playing with "Nothing to loose..."
GSE: Will a Goalie steal the show? Have they had enough time to perfect their systems? Can they produce high enough quality with a short bench? Will the long trip to Escondido be an issue? Can this team be patient and capitalize on mistakes.
Just a humble opinion...
Lets play hockey Boys!
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I just dont see the JD1 team losing any games and will be heading to Nationals again.
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JD1 in nationals "again"? Their M16 team didn't go last year so not sure about the "again".
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Lets see what happens... There is always the wildcard issue... Injuries. 8)
On another note, Do one or two teams go to Nationals?
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Just one.
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Consensus seems to be...
1. The Ducks 1 are the best team.
2. There isn't a team going that cant beat the Ducks 1.
3. Goalies could be the difference.
Sounds like a great weekend of youth hockey.
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Consensus seems to be...
1. The Ducks 1 are the best team.
2. There isn't a team going that cant beat the Ducks 1.
3. Goalies could be the difference.
Sounds like a great weekend of youth hockey.
And watch Flyers beat Ducks 1.
A huge upset but no one is unbeatable.
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I agree... Ducks 1 are totally the best team. They have proven it all year. Let's see what happens... Let's see if little David can bring down GOLIATH. Gee it's never happened before... tongue in cheek.
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Consensus seems to be...
1. The Ducks 1 are the best team.
2. There isn't a team going that cant beat the Ducks 1.
3. Goalies could be the difference.
Sounds like a great weekend of youth hockey.
And watch Flyers beat Ducks 1.
A huge upset but no one is unbeatable.
Boom! Flyers take down Ducks 1
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Never under estimate your opponent! The Flyers are a very solid team as are the Ducks1, Ducks2 and GSE. The Ducks1 team are not a given to win and it's anyones game to win in the playoffs, good luck to both teams today!
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Any update?
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Well... it was a good fight... Valencia and Ducks 2 gave ducks 1 a scare, but in the end couldn’t overcome them. A tip of the hat to them. Good luck at nationals.
Last words...
Respect your opponent and respect the game. If you don’t... things might not go so favorably next time.
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Well... it was a good fight... Valencia and Ducks 2 gave ducks 1 a scare, but in the end couldn’t overcome them. A tip of the hat to them. Good luck at nationals.
Last words...
Respect your opponent and respect the game. If you don’t... things might not go so favorably next time.
Was there a problem regarding teams respecting each other?
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Kings impressed in Tier 1 in States!
2018 CAHA State Champions
Mar 18, 2018 9:04 PM
CONGRATULATIONS to the following 2018 CAHA State Champions:
Tier I:
Midget 18U - L.A. Jr. Kings
Midget 16U - L.A. Jr. Kings
Midget 15 - L.A. Jr. Kings
Bantam - L.A. Jr. Kings
Bantam Minor - L.A. Jr. Kings
PeeWee - L.A. Jr. Kings
PeeWee Minor - L.A. Jr. Kings
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Kings impressed in Tier 1 in States!
2018 CAHA State Champions
Mar 18, 2018 9:04 PM
CONGRATULATIONS to the following 2018 CAHA State Champions:
Tier I:
Midget 18U - L.A. Jr. Kings
Midget 16U - L.A. Jr. Kings
Midget 15 - L.A. Jr. Kings
Bantam - L.A. Jr. Kings
Bantam Minor - L.A. Jr. Kings
PeeWee - L.A. Jr. Kings
PeeWee Minor - L.A. Jr. Kings
And why are you posting this in the AA forum?
Old news
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C'mon you can't ever get enough JK Tier1 news PK.
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C'mon you can't ever get enough JK Tier1 news PK.
Looks at us we won the state title over two other teams. ::)
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Well... it was a good fight... Valencia and Ducks 2 gave ducks 1 a scare, but in the end couldn’t overcome them. A tip of the hat to them. Good luck at nationals.
Last words...
Respect your opponent and respect the game. If you don’t... things might not go so favorably next time.
The Flyer's most valuable player took a cross check to the liver in the 1st potential championship game. He was unable to play in the final game. It might have been a closer match had he been able to play. When you are down a defensive smart, forward that looks for the assist first it hurts. Of course the Flyers didn't help themselves with 150 minutes of penalties. Frequently taking retaliation penalties even on delayed penalty calls in their favor. A total lack of discipline.
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Flyers were lacking discipline...
The best story of the tournament was the Ducks 2 team. This group of "also rans, and kids without political pull." Ducks 2 just went to work... As I see it they gave the Ducks 1 team a run for their money... Ducks 2 had the game on their stick three separate times. If one of those shots goes in... we would have seen Ducks 1 eliminated by the "secondary team." I couldn't have been happier for these kids.
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Flyers were lacking discipline...
The best story of the tournament was the Ducks 2 team. This group of "also rans, and kids without political pull." Ducks 2 just went to work... As I see it they gave the Ducks 1 team a run for their money... Ducks 2 had the game on their stick three separate times. If one of those shots goes in... we would have seen Ducks 1 eliminated by the "secondary team." I couldn't have been happier for these kids.
Yes, know some Ducks 2 kids. A good group.