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Title: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 6607 on February 27, 2018, 09:02:50 AM
With the most of the talk at our rink being about next season, it seems like the right time to start this thread.  So first item -  what is everyone hearing as to which clubs/coaches/rinks that will be having Pee Wee AA teams next season? 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on February 27, 2018, 09:28:04 AM
Big clubs will do their thing as always...I am curious about the following:


What are the Wave doing since they can have AA again


Which Valley / North LA club will field a AA team.  I only see one team between the Bears, Mariners, Flyers, Heat and Maple Leafs. Not sure if they will be as competitive as the Bears / Flyers from this season...


The flight BS is going to be a real shit show since the level of play between the top teams vs the rest is going to be even worse next season.


Any northern team going to be a threat like GSE this year? GSE again probably since no other club will have the depth


Gold Rush going to have a AA?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: HockeyPop2297 on February 27, 2018, 02:27:14 PM
Gold Rush PW AA skates already posted on their website. Nick Silver coaching.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: trans4761 on February 27, 2018, 06:28:11 PM
I understand Wave PW AA will be coached by Trevor Wada.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Bear71 on February 28, 2018, 09:01:58 AM
Bears AA will be coached by Justin Blaszak.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on February 28, 2018, 10:11:42 AM
So for those keeping track at home...


Bears (Blaszak)
Wave (Wada)
Gold Rush (Silver)


Then...


Kings 1
Kings 2
Ducks 1
Ducks 2


OCHC
Ice Dogs
Gulls
Saints


GSE (Maybe 2 teams?)
Blackhawks


And then a few teams that dont belong...

Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 6607 on February 28, 2018, 10:30:28 AM
We were told that Dean Wilson will coach OCHC PWAA.  Hearing all sorts of rumors about which Ducks coaches will have AA teams and the age of those teams...
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: In The Crease on February 28, 2018, 10:43:02 AM
So for those keeping track at home...


Bears (Blaszak)
Wave (Wada)
Gold Rush (Silver)
OCHC (Dean Wilson)


Then...


Kings 1
Kings 2
Ducks 1
Ducks 2
Ice Dogs
Gulls
Saints


GSE (Maybe 2 teams?)
Blackhawks


And then a few teams that dont belong...
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on February 28, 2018, 11:52:12 AM
I will also take a stab at birth year


  Bears (Blaszak) - They will try to be all 06's but my guess it will be similar to what the Bears AA team is currently: mostly major year players with a couple minor years mixed it.
Wave (Wada) - 06
Gold Rush (Silver) - Similar to bears
OCHC (Dean Wilson) - 06/07




Then...




Kings 1 - 06
Kings 2 - 06/07
Ducks 1  - 06/07
Ducks 2 - 06/07/08
Ice Dogs - 06/07
Gulls - 06/07
Saints - 06/07




GSE (Maybe 2 teams?) 06 & 06/07
Blackhawks 99% 06




And then a few teams that dont belong...
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: jvreagan on February 28, 2018, 12:00:10 PM
I will also take a stab at birth year

Blackhawks 99% 06



I suspect the Blackhawks will have several 07s on their roster next year.  My understanding is that Sova Khuong will be the head coach although I don't believe that is official yet.  That's good news for Blackhawks 12U families.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on February 28, 2018, 12:13:42 PM
  Bears (Blaszak) - They will try to be all 06's but my guess it will be similar to what the Bears AA team is currently: mostly major year players with a couple minor years mixed it.
Wave (Wada) - 06
Gold Rush (Silver) - Similar to bears
OCHC (Dean Wilson) - 06/07
Blackhawks (Khuong?) - 06/07


Then...

Kings 1 - 06
Kings 2 - 06/07
Ducks 1 - 06/07
Ducks 2 - 06/07/08
Ice Dogs - 06/07
Gulls - 06/07
Saints - 06/07




GSE (Maybe 2 teams?) 06 & 06/07
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: LetsGoRangers on February 28, 2018, 12:55:00 PM
Jr Sharks wont have any AA? So are they just terrible AAA or nothing at this point?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Kangaroo Jack on February 28, 2018, 01:01:32 PM
Jr Sharks wont have any AA? So are they just terrible AAA or nothing at this point?


That is a little un-fair Terrible.  They prefer not that good but slow.

Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 6607 on May 01, 2018, 09:12:39 AM
With a little over a month to go before AA tryouts, here is my best stab at what clubs/teams are attempting to pull together AA teams. 

 
Southern California:
Bears
Ducks 1 (Runtso/07 core/Lakewood)
Ducks 2 (Texeira/07 birth year/Lakewood)
Empire (Hammacher/?/Ontario)
Flyers (?/?/Valencia)
GoldRush (Silver/mix/Lake Forest)
Gulls (Liebl/?)
Gulls 2 (declarations page lists 2 AA teams)
Ice Dogs 1 (Riley/06 birth year/KHS )
Ice Dogs 2 (Semenov/?/KHS)
Kings 1 (Calder/06 core/ TSC)
Kings 2  (Graham/?/TSC)
OCHC (Wilson/07 core/Yorba Linda)
OCHC 2 (declarations page lists 2 AA teams but I believe they are planning on 1?)
Reign (?/?/?)
Saints plans unclear
Wave (Owens and/or Wada/?/Artesia)
   
Northern Cal:
Sharks (Hirschel)(06-07)
Blackhawks (Khuong/?)
GSE North (Alexius/ 06-07)
GSE South (Rodriguez/ 06-07)
 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: OCHockeyDad07 on May 01, 2018, 10:49:03 AM
With a little over a month to go before AA tryouts, here is my best stab at what clubs/teams are attempting to pull together AA teams. 

 
Southern California:
Bears
Ducks 1 (Runtso/07 core/Lakewood)
Ducks 2 (Texeira/07 birth year/Lakewood)
Empire (Hammacher/?/Ontario)
Flyers (?/?/Valencia)
GoldRush (Silver/mix/Lake Forest)
Gulls (Liebl/?)
Ice Dogs 1 (Riley/06 birth year/KHS )
Ice Dogs 2 (Semenov/?/KHS)
Kings 1 (Calder/06 core/ TSC)
Kings 2  (Graham/?/TSC)
OCHC (Wilson/07 core/Yorba Linda)
Reign (?/?/?)
Saints plans unclear
Wave (Owens and/or Wada/?/Artesia)
   
Northern Cal:
Sharks (Hirschel)(06-07)
Blackhawks (Khuong/?)
GSE North (Alexius/ 06-07)
GSE South (Rodriguez/ 06-07)


Does OCHC have 2007s that can play AA?  If 2007s will be the core seems a weak team.


Also, I hear Goldrush are struggling to get enough talent for AA and might drop down to A.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: hockeyboy on May 01, 2018, 01:41:12 PM
Ducks AA 1 (Coach Runtso) is actually 06/07 core with open spots for players for 18-19 season.  Coach Runtso is looking for 06/07 players (good players/good families) to develop a competitive team.  Last season, Coach Runtso & Oleg Tverdovsky focused on player development, taking the PW A team to play AA in tournaments and had a strong season, playing in the SCAHA semifinals. Runtso's spring clinics are Tuesdays and Thursdays, generally at 6:30 pm at Lakewood.  Details on the Jr Ducks website.  Coach Runtos is also offering scrimmage and tournament opportunities. 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: keepdrinkinthekoolaid on May 02, 2018, 06:56:06 PM
Ducks AA 1 (Coach Runtso) is actually 06/07 core with open spots for players for 18-19 season.  Coach Runtso is looking for 06/07 players (good players/good families) to develop a competitive team.  Last season, Coach Runtso & Oleg Tverdovsky focused on player development, taking the PW A team to play AA in tournaments and had a strong season, playing in the SCAHA semifinals. Runtso's spring clinics are Tuesdays and Thursdays, generally at 6:30 pm at Lakewood.  Details on the Jr Ducks website.  Coach Runtos is also offering scrimmage and tournament opportunities.
Pretty sure you mean this team could actually use some good core players to make them competitive for the 2018-2019 AA CAHA Season, right? 

Jr Ducks PWAA1 in a scrimmage vs '07 PW AAA Minor Jr Ducks team on Apr 15, 2018, score 3-7.

Jr Ducks PWAA1 went to the 2018 STX ChiTown Shuffle, April 20 - 22, 2018 - 2006 AAA Division.  Record of 1-3 as LA Stars (Info on GameOn App)
Jr Ducks PWAA1's Losses to (1) DC Selects, (2) Jr Chargers (did not even get to finish the game; coach forfeit) & (3) Jr Falcons
Jr Ducks PWAA1's Win was against another 1-3 team, Central Illinois Fire

Have not heard how the Jr Ducks PWAA1 scrimmage against Ice Dogs/Renegades went on Sunday April 28, 2018 @ 3:30pm

Are both Jr Ducks PW AA teams going to be in CAHA PW Flt 2?
A
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 25083643 on May 03, 2018, 08:50:50 AM
Jr Sharks wont have any AA? So are they just terrible AAA or nothing at this point?


It has hardly ever stopped them before.  They’re failing at Tier 1 hands down and it trickles down.  CB has been telling SQT parents “exposure” is important and it’s “Sooo competitive”.  They had 4 SQT teams last season and now a lot of them are moving up with CB still trying to fill his rinks with the “exposure” angle. 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on May 03, 2018, 10:11:12 AM
Ducks AA 1 (Coach Runtso) is actually 06/07 core with open spots for players for 18-19 season.  Coach Runtso is looking for 06/07 players (good players/good families) to develop a competitive team.  Last season, Coach Runtso & Oleg Tverdovsky focused on player development, taking the PW A team to play AA in tournaments and had a strong season, playing in the SCAHA semifinals. Runtso's spring clinics are Tuesdays and Thursdays, generally at 6:30 pm at Lakewood.  Details on the Jr Ducks website.  Coach Runtos is also offering scrimmage and tournament opportunities.
Pretty sure you mean this team could actually use some good core players to make them competitive for the 2018-2019 AA CAHA Season, right? 

Jr Ducks PWAA1 in a scrimmage vs '07 PW AAA Minor Jr Ducks team on Apr 15, 2018, score 3-7.

Jr Ducks PWAA1 went to the 2018 STX ChiTown Shuffle, April 20 - 22, 2018 - 2006 AAA Division.  Record of 1-3 as LA Stars (Info on GameOn App)
Jr Ducks PWAA1's Losses to (1) DC Selects, (2) Jr Chargers (did not even get to finish the game; coach forfeit) & (3) Jr Falcons
Jr Ducks PWAA1's Win was against another 1-3 team, Central Illinois Fire

Have not heard how the Jr Ducks PWAA1 scrimmage against Ice Dogs/Renegades went on Sunday April 28, 2018 @ 3:30pm

Are both Jr Ducks PW AA teams going to be in CAHA PW Flt 2?
A




Damn...someone not make a team or something? Thats a lot of detailed negative information when you could have just summed it up in a few shorts words.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Diehardfan on May 04, 2018, 06:37:49 AM
Ducks AA 1 (Coach Runtso) is actually 06/07 core with open spots for players for 18-19 season.  Coach Runtso is looking for 06/07 players (good players/good families) to develop a competitive team.  Last season, Coach Runtso & Oleg Tverdovsky focused on player development, taking the PW A team to play AA in tournaments and had a strong season, playing in the SCAHA semifinals. Runtso's spring clinics are Tuesdays and Thursdays, generally at 6:30 pm at Lakewood.  Details on the Jr Ducks website.  Coach Runtos is also offering scrimmage and tournament opportunities.
Pretty sure you mean this team could actually use some good core players to make them competitive for the 2018-2019 AA CAHA Season, right? 

Jr Ducks PWAA1 in a scrimmage vs '07 PW AAA Minor Jr Ducks team on Apr 15, 2018, score 3-7.

Jr Ducks PWAA1 went to the 2018 STX ChiTown Shuffle, April 20 - 22, 2018 - 2006 AAA Division.  Record of 1-3 as LA Stars (Info on GameOn App)
Jr Ducks PWAA1's Losses to (1) DC Selects, (2) Jr Chargers (did not even get to finish the game; coach forfeit) & (3) Jr Falcons
Jr Ducks PWAA1's Win was against another 1-3 team, Central Illinois Fire

Have not heard how the Jr Ducks PWAA1 scrimmage against Ice Dogs/Renegades went on Sunday April 28, 2018 @ 3:30pm

Are both Jr Ducks PW AA teams going to be in CAHA PW Flt 2?
A
I guess it seems pretty unfortunate for you that you have to club hop between the kings and ducks and you can’t just buy your way in to get your son on the team all those steak dinners and flights you have bought for Eugene and he is still not taking your kid who is one of the biggest kids who will age out and be one of the biggest kids in pewee it is really unfortanite that rens 07 and majority’s of runsto 07 had to take your sons opportunity for Alex V to get the 06 team so Eugene after all those bribes you have gave him could have helped you get your son on a team .I think your best bet is the bears are in need of donations and putting 06 team together I’m sure you can buy your self a spot on that team since you are a jersey collector good luck and drink that hateraid Mr Coilaid drinker it is really unfortunate since your kid is a good kid
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on May 04, 2018, 08:08:22 AM
Ducks AA 1 (Coach Runtso) is actually 06/07 core with open spots for players for 18-19 season.  Coach Runtso is looking for 06/07 players (good players/good families) to develop a competitive team.  Last season, Coach Runtso & Oleg Tverdovsky focused on player development, taking the PW A team to play AA in tournaments and had a strong season, playing in the SCAHA semifinals. Runtso's spring clinics are Tuesdays and Thursdays, generally at 6:30 pm at Lakewood.  Details on the Jr Ducks website.  Coach Runtos is also offering scrimmage and tournament opportunities.
Pretty sure you mean this team could actually use some good core players to make them competitive for the 2018-2019 AA CAHA Season, right? 

Jr Ducks PWAA1 in a scrimmage vs '07 PW AAA Minor Jr Ducks team on Apr 15, 2018, score 3-7.

Jr Ducks PWAA1 went to the 2018 STX ChiTown Shuffle, April 20 - 22, 2018 - 2006 AAA Division.  Record of 1-3 as LA Stars (Info on GameOn App)
Jr Ducks PWAA1's Losses to (1) DC Selects, (2) Jr Chargers (did not even get to finish the game; coach forfeit) & (3) Jr Falcons
Jr Ducks PWAA1's Win was against another 1-3 team, Central Illinois Fire

Have not heard how the Jr Ducks PWAA1 scrimmage against Ice Dogs/Renegades went on Sunday April 28, 2018 @ 3:30pm

Are both Jr Ducks PW AA teams going to be in CAHA PW Flt 2?
A
I guess it seems pretty unfortunate for you that you have to club hop between the kings and ducks and you can’t just buy your way in to get your son on the team all those steak dinners and flights you have bought for Eugene and he is still not taking your kid who is one of the biggest kids who will age out and be one of the biggest kids in pewee it is really unfortanite that rens 07 and majority’s of runsto 07 had to take your sons opportunity for Alex V to get the 06 team so Eugene after all those bribes you have gave him could have helped you get your son on a team .I think your best bet is the bears are in need of donations and putting 06 team together I’m sure you can buy your self a spot on that team since you are a jersey collector good luck and drink that hateraid Mr Coilaid drinker it is really unfortunate since your kid is a good kid


You just took run on sentences to a whole new level.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: lcadad on May 04, 2018, 08:48:31 AM
 :(



Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Diehardfan on May 04, 2018, 09:21:06 AM
I think so Mr drink that hateraid is so up Eugene’s ass & hands out so many donations and after all could not buy his way in to Eugene’s team dinners to nice steak house for Eugene and family air fare tickets etc. maybe he should be paying and bribing a higher up maybe take it to the next level . If that don’t work look at the bright side you will be much closer to home at the bears I’m sure you can buy your way in somewhere big mouth
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: keepdrinkinthekoolaid on May 04, 2018, 11:45:07 AM
Welcome to Calhockey.com Diehardfan, and so glad I could be a part of your first post - which was so inspiring with factual, grammatical and spelling mistakes even before you double down with more incoherent babbling!

Look, it’s obvious the only hater is you. I point out facts, things that have actually happened, then voice frustration at the Jr Ducks Organization & what I believe to be shortsightedness regarding opportunities for 2006's at the AA level. 

How were you able to turn that into a personal rant against me with so many false accusations? 
Glad you like my son, I guess?  Actually, leave my son out of it. 

IN ORDER FOR YOU TO INSULT ME, I MUST FIRST VALUE YOUR OPINION.  NICE TRY THOUGH!

Well actually, since you’ve classified me as such a big spender, here’s how generous I am. If you are going to keep posting on this forum, I’ll happily pay for you to have an English tutor, moron. 

See you around the rink and by the way, has your son stolen any of his teammate's skates lately?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Bear71 on May 04, 2018, 04:18:05 PM
Welcome to Calhockey.com Diehardfan, and so glad I could be a part of your first post - which was so inspiring with factual, grammatical and spelling mistakes even before you double down with more incoherent babbling!

Look, it’s obvious the only hater is you. I point out facts, things that have actually happened, then voice frustration at the Jr Ducks Organization & what I believe to be shortsightedness regarding opportunities for 2006's at the AA level. 

How were you able to turn that into a personal rant against me with so many false accusations? 
Glad you like my son, I guess?  Actually, leave my son out of it. 

IN ORDER FOR YOU TO INSULT ME, I MUST FIRST VALUE YOUR OPINION.  NICE TRY THOUGH!

Well actually, since you’ve classified me as such a big spender, here’s how generous I am. If you are going to keep posting on this forum, I’ll happily pay for you to have an english tutor, moron. 

See you around the rink and by the way, has your son stolen any of his teammate's skates lately?


The first lesson is free: it's English, not english.   ;)
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: lcadad on May 04, 2018, 06:00:43 PM
Still the spring, and if this thread is any indication, 2018 should be a banner year at Calhockey.  At the risk of turning this towards the informational, I know that some of EK's players have departed, but I also had heard a rumor that EK was not going to be coaching the '06 team next season.  True/False/unknown?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Bear71 on May 04, 2018, 06:12:12 PM
Still the spring, and if this thread is any indication, 2018 should be a banner year at Calhockey.  At the risk of turning this towards the informational, I know that some of EK's players have departed, but I also had heard a rumor that EK was not going to be coaching the '06 team next season.  True/False/unknown?
Per Kangaroo Jack, it won’t be a banner year in Hobo Village.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: lcadad on May 04, 2018, 06:36:54 PM
Still the spring, and if this thread is any indication, 2018 should be a banner year at Calhockey.  At the risk of turning this towards the informational, I know that some of EK's players have departed, but I also had heard a rumor that EK was not going to be coaching the '06 team next season.  True/False/unknown?
Per Kangaroo Jack, it won’t be a banner year in Hobo Village.


Haha.  Too bad he can't make these sort of statements anymore now that he's joining the CAHA board.  Gotta play the political game ya know.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: keepdrinkinthekoolaid on May 04, 2018, 06:57:50 PM
Still the spring, and if this thread is any indication, 2018 should be a banner year at Calhockey.  At the risk of turning this towards the informational, I know that some of EK's players have departed, but I also had heard a rumor that EK was not going to be coaching the '06 team next season.  True/False/unknown?
ALLEGEDLY i am very close to the situation, although "admittedly" not in the best position to hear clearly (on my knees and on the backside) while currently wearing Jr Ducks swag.

I will defer to Kangaroo Jack or state unknown. 

DIEHARDFAN, where did you go rookie?  Any further fiction, spelling errors and run-on sentences you want to bless us with this pre-season? 
I almost forgot, my son has outgrown his current ice skates, if I were to give them to your son, would that take the fun out of his travel hockey experience?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Diehardfan on May 04, 2018, 07:13:13 PM
KeepdrinkintheKoolaid, Im Back my friend, talk about facts, i think your confused about who this is. Just cause your mad don’t take it out on everyone else. My sons not a thief, the only thing he may steal is your sons AA spot. Let’s make a deal you sponsor my English classes and I will sponsor your Jenny Craig’s membership.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: keepdrinkinthekoolaid on May 04, 2018, 07:32:04 PM
KeepdrinkintheKoolaid, Im Back my friend, talk about facts, i think your confused about who this is. Just cause your mad don’t take it out on everyone else. My sons not a thief, the only thing he may steal is your sons AA spot. Let’s make a deal you sponsor my English classes and I will sponsor your Jenny Craig’s membership.
Mad, nope.  Deal YES, but please check with Mrs DIEHARDFAN first.  She definitely didn’t mind the extra lbs again last night. (I’ll be here all night, all week & all year “bud”!)
AND plenty of hockey opportunities especially since I seem to love variety & to spend extra money to get what I want, CHEERS.
Your fat “friend” Big Mouth.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: hockeydad21 on May 06, 2018, 09:23:57 AM
This is why I come to this forum. Hilarious. Keep it going while I make some popcorn.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 6607 on May 16, 2018, 10:30:57 AM
Any one want to make early predictions about what teams make Flight 1, Flight 2 or move down (either voluntarily or by relegation) to A?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: keepdrinkinthekoolaid on May 20, 2018, 10:18:38 AM
Any one want to make early predictions about what teams make Flight 1, Flight 2 or move down (either voluntarily or by relegation) to A?
Heard DIEHARDFAN & Jr Ducks Runtso just played well & beat Jr Kings Calder/Tatovasian, 3-2, in a scrimmage at Lakewood this morning.
CONGRATS! Looks like I have to eat my words about that Jr Ducks team
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: OCHockeyDad07 on May 22, 2018, 08:22:39 AM
I saw in the March SCAHA Meeting Minutes that CAHA is considering eliminating flight II and moving those teams to A. Does anyone have any more current information on this?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: goonhockey on May 22, 2018, 08:34:15 AM
I saw in the March SCAHA Meeting Minutes that CAHA is considering eliminating flight II and moving those teams to A. Does anyone have any more current information on this?




too bad CAHA has stopped posting their Minutes...
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Maverick on May 22, 2018, 12:09:18 PM
too bad for next years weak A teams that think they are A...
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: SDhockeydad07 on May 23, 2018, 11:36:12 AM
Gulls are planning 2 AA teams:


AA-1 coached by Greg Pruden.  Likely made up with large parts of our AA-2 team from last year (which he coached), and all probably 06.
AA-2 coached by Sean Birkle. Likely made up with large parts of the 07 Squirt A team from last season, plus a few 06.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: OCHockeyDad07 on May 28, 2018, 08:56:02 PM
I saw that the OCHC Wilson team played in the Rinks tournament as a PW A team and didn’t do well.  I think it’s that same kids that plan to play PW AA...



Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on May 29, 2018, 10:25:06 AM
How about some predictions for the upcoming season based on tournaments? Watched most of the 06 teams at Carmen Starr but not any 07 games...here is from that


Jr Kings 1(Calder) - played AAA at CS, went 3-2 - dominated GSE & Angry Eskimos but had a tough time with Jr Gulls / Ducks
Jr Kings 06 - played at AAA level, went 2-3
Jr Kings 07? [/size]2 teams at AAA 07 level at CS
Wave - Played as angry eskimos at AAA level, went 2-3
Ice Dogs 1 - Played at Elite level at Carmen Starr and went 1-4, should not have played at that level
Ice Dogs 2 - Played at AAA level at CS, went 0-5
Jr Ducks 1 (runtso) [/size]Played at AAA level at CS, went 3-2
Jr Gulls 1 - played AAA level at CS, went 3-2
Jr Gulls 2 - played 07 AA at CS?
GSE - played AAA level at CS, went 4-2 - did very well against some teams and then got smoked by both patriot teams
Bay Area Blazers played AA level at CS, went 2-3




Rankings based on who has declared and who will obviously have AA teams


1 - Jr Ducks 1 (Runtso)
2 - Jr Kings 1 (Calder)
3 - GSE North
4 - Empire
5 - Jr Gulls 1
6 - GSE South
7 - Wave
8 - Jr Reign
9 - Jr Ducks 2
10 - Jr Kings 2 (07)

11 - Ice Dogs 1
12 - OCHC 1
13 - [/size]Bay Area Blazers
14 - Jr Flyers
15 - OCHC 2
16 - Jr Gulls 2
17 -
Ice Dogs 2
18 - Bears










Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on May 29, 2018, 01:13:40 PM
Uneducated guess based on talent
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on May 29, 2018, 01:40:50 PM
Not correct....so how would you rank them?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: lcadad on May 29, 2018, 02:37:20 PM
Valencia will have a PWAA team coached by Pavel Sisak.  It likely will be a young team, but there is talent in that group, and the opportunity to play for an elite coach for a few seasons.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on May 29, 2018, 02:49:21 PM
Valencia will have a PWAA team coached by Pavel Sisak.  It likely will be a young team, but there is talent in that group, and the opportunity to play for an elite coach for a few seasons.



Yeah, I had them 14th - I watched them play this weekend against the Bears "AA" team at the PWA level @ Ice Station. You are right, there is some really good talent but I dont think enough. Of course, all that changes based on who shows up to try-outs this weekend!


1 - Jr Ducks 1 (Runtso)
2 - Jr Kings 1 (Calder)
3 - GSE North
4 - Empire
5 - Jr Gulls 1
6 - GSE South
7 - Wave
8 - Jr Reign
9 - Jr Ducks 2
10 - Jr Kings 2 (07)
11 - Ice Dogs 1
12 - OCHC 1
13 - Bay Area Blazers
14 - Jr Flyers
15 - OCHC 2
16 - Jr Gulls 2
17 - Ice Dogs 2
18 - Bears

Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: lcadad on May 29, 2018, 05:55:26 PM
Sorry if I missed that.  I don't think they expect to have a Flight1 team, but I do know the coach and the program, and I know there will be development and improvement over the course of the season.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on May 29, 2018, 06:37:52 PM
Sorry if I missed that.  I don't think they expect to have a Flight1 team, but I do know the coach and the program, and I know there will be development and improvement over the course of the season.


I agree - their package for AA is one of the best and with Pavel I would be excited if I was a 07 and part of that team. 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: NotfromSoCal on May 30, 2018, 12:54:03 AM
The Bay Area Blazers are a tournament team and wont even have a regular season team.  Many of these teams that played in Carmen Star are not even the same teams or the same players that will play next season.  Not sure how you come to any conclusions other than a complete guess.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: FlySouthAAA on May 30, 2018, 11:04:31 AM
Blazers kids are mostily A and B skaters from NorCal clubs. Blazers is the spring program for them.
Sharks also have 2 teams in AA this season.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on May 30, 2018, 11:12:20 AM
"rankings" are based on what I saw at Carmen Starr and heard about at Ice Station. Yes, those teams are not the exact rosters that will be playing next season but for most of them that is damn well close...we all know Memorial Day tournaments are usually a tryout before the tryouts.


So, because I have nothing better to do but rank 10/11/12 year olds...



Playoff teams
  1 - Jr Ducks 1 (Runtso)
2 - Jr Kings 1 (Calder)
3 - GSE North
4 - Empire
5 - Jr Gulls 1
6 - GSE South
7 - Wave
8- Jr Sharks 1


Non-playoff teams
9 - Jr Reign
10 - Jr Ducks 2
11 - Jr Kings 2 (07)
12 - Ice Dogs 1
13 - OCHC 1
14 - SJ Sharks 2
15 - Jr Flyers
16 - OCHC 2
17 - Jr Gulls 2
18 - Ice Dogs 2
19 - Bears




Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: lcadad on May 30, 2018, 12:12:22 PM
Fun to see the rebuttal, but without someone risking an assessment initially, it's crickets. 


My question though, aren't most of the Patriots going to be JK's? 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: overHEATed on May 30, 2018, 12:47:47 PM
Patriots 2006 PWAAA from CS  (Not the Selects) will be Calder's Kings PWAA team. They will tweak final roster by 2-3 different or additional players.
Adjust your rankings accordingly.


Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: rmackintosh on May 30, 2018, 12:54:00 PM
socalhockeydad, you are either trying to make the ducks or kings team, know nothing about hockey or are really trolling this board...


Reality in red:

2 - Jr Kings 1 (Calder) (Lost to Patriots, Blazers, Ducks, and GSE at CS. Barely beat a weak Gulls team, are you also trying to make this team as well? Might want to keep your ringer on for this team as well)






3 - GSE North (Great showing at CS, made it to finals before losing. Beat BOTH teams ranked above them. Have a few really strong kids on that team. They will be in the top 5 for sure)



Hockey Dad 123, here's some reality in black.

Unfortunately for GSE, the Patriots team they lost to 8-1 is basically the Kings that will be AA next season. But the really bad news for GSE is that they'll be also adding a couple of kids from the Western Patriots (who also beat GSE 8-1), as well as a kid or two from the Kings team they did beat (congrats on smoking a peewee A team!) and a couple who didn't play this weekend. Thanks for kicking all that awesome knowledge in red though! And congrats to GSE on a great showing. You know, minus the two games they lost 8-1 that went to running clock. 


I have no idea who was on that GSE Carmen Starr team, but you should know that GSE does not field "fall rostered" teams in spring. The GSE spring teams are just a bunch of kids from their spring program who want to go experience a tournament with great coaching. The teams typically are a hodge podge of North/South players and most times they are filled with kids taking a look at the program. Oftentimes the GSE regulars are taking the spring season off for other sports, etc.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: HockeyDad123 on May 30, 2018, 01:03:09 PM
Fun to see the rebuttal, but without someone risking an assessment initially, it's crickets. 


My question though, aren't most of the Patriots going to be JK's?


Icadad,


So glad you saw the irony in my post. My "red" comments were just as speculative and ridiculous as ranking teams that have not even held tryouts yet. Until players are signed a lot can happen.


Good Luck to everyone this season. Hoping for some competitive hockey all around. 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Hockey05 on May 30, 2018, 01:08:46 PM
Buyer beware, the question here is if CAHA sticks to what it has done previously and limits these flights to two divisions with 16 teams max.  IMO, a lot of time and money spent here (wasted) in breaking PWAA to two flights.  If they do limit PW tier II to 16 teams then your kid might be playing the same 5 teams in flight two all year.  But they could also go the other direction with it.  If you are playing the same 5 teams in flight 1 you may want to beef up your out of town schedule.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on May 30, 2018, 01:50:27 PM
socalhockeydad, you are either trying to make the ducks or kings team, know nothing about hockey or are really trolling this board...


Reality in red:

2 - Jr Kings 1 (Calder) (Lost to Patriots, Blazers, Ducks, and GSE at CS. Barely beat a weak Gulls team, are you also trying to make this team as well? Might want to keep your ringer on for this team as well)






3 - GSE North (Great showing at CS, made it to finals before losing. Beat BOTH teams ranked above them. Have a few really strong kids on that team. They will be in the top 5 for sure)



Hockey Dad 123, here's some reality in black.

Unfortunately for GSE, the Patriots team they lost to 8-1 is basically the Kings that will be AA next season. But the really bad news for GSE is that they'll be also adding a couple of kids from the Western Patriots (who also beat GSE 8-1), as well as a kid or two from the Kings team they did beat (congrats on smoking a peewee A team!) and a couple who didn't play this weekend. Thanks for kicking all that awesome knowledge in red though! And congrats to GSE on a great showing. You know, minus the two games they lost 8-1 that went to running clock. 


Quick correction...CS only shows a 7 goal differential...the margin of victory was actually higher for both patriot teams.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on May 30, 2018, 01:54:54 PM
socalhockeydad, you are either trying to make the ducks or kings team, know nothing about hockey or are really trolling this board...



I have no idea who was on that GSE Carmen Starr team, but you should know that GSE does not field "fall rostered" teams in spring. The GSE spring teams are just a bunch of kids from their spring program who want to go experience a tournament with great coaching. The teams typically are a hodge podge of North/South players and most times they are filled with kids taking a look at the program. Oftentimes the GSE regulars are taking the spring season off for other sports, etc.


Additional correction...in talking to GSE parents that team seems to have a core of what their team will be next year. As I have said A FEW TIMES these arent the actually 18/19 AA teams but they, for the most part, are pretty close...or at least close enough to get a good sense of how they will be.


Also, if you are angry about a meaningless ranking to get conversations going for next season you should probably start smoking some weed...it is legal now.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: LetsGoRangers on May 30, 2018, 02:01:59 PM
Buyer beware, the question here is if CAHA sticks to what it has done previously and limits these flights to two divisions with 16 teams max.  IMO, a lot of time and money spent here (wasted) in breaking PWAA to two flights.  If they do limit PW tier II to 16 teams then your kid might be playing the same 5 teams in flight two all year.  But they could also go the other direction with it.  If you are playing the same 5 teams in flight 1 you may want to beef up your out of town schedule.
The real question i want answered is will CAHA make socal teams travel to Vacaville to play all socal teams...
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Pistonkev on May 30, 2018, 02:10:30 PM
Buyer beware, the question here is if CAHA sticks to what it has done previously and limits these flights to two divisions with 16 teams max.  IMO, a lot of time and money spent here (wasted) in breaking PWAA to two flights.  If they do limit PW tier II to 16 teams then your kid might be playing the same 5 teams in flight two all year.  But they could also go the other direction with it.  If you are playing the same 5 teams in flight 1 you may want to beef up your out of town schedule.
The real question i want answered is will CAHA make socal teams travel to Vacaville to play all socal teams...
Why would that change? Come on now. 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 6607 on May 31, 2018, 10:24:12 AM
Having watched a lot of "AAA" hockey at CS last weekend, it seemed to me that those teams were smaller, slower, younger and less experienced than all of  last year's Flight 1 teams (except Ducks 2) and the top Flight 2 team (the Flyers).  The exceptions were the Western Patriots and the Riley Ice Dogs (who played at the elite level).  Unless some of these teams get a significant makeover this weekend, I think it may create a significant dilemma for CAHA.  I think Flight 1 is likely to be smaller this season, and perhaps, not enough quality teams to flight the division at all.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: FlySouthAAA on May 31, 2018, 11:18:57 AM
Pretty sure Western Patriots were alot of SJ AAA Sharks, and some ringers from Vegas. Says something that the other Patriots team was not in the medal contention. Something good must be going on in SoCal with so many hockey families leaving their homes to play here. 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on May 31, 2018, 11:29:48 AM
Pretty sure Western Patriots were alot of SJ AAA Sharks, and some ringers from Vegas. Says something that the other Patriots team was not in the medal contention. Something good must be going on in SoCal with so many hockey families leaving their homes to play here.


Please see my other post regarding the Patriots and what they did to GSE...if you watched the teams throughout the tournament the Finals should have been Patriots vs Patriots or Western Patriots vs Jr Ducks. Those were the 3 best teams IMO with the Western Patriots being the best.


Western Patriots had 4 Jr Sharks AAA kids (a team then went 0-10 with a GD of -89 last season) and then a mix of out of state and socal kids. They played great and deserved to take home the medal.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on May 31, 2018, 11:31:40 AM
Having watched a lot of "AAA" hockey at CS last weekend, it seemed to me that those teams were smaller, slower, younger and less experienced than all of  last year's Flight 1 teams (except Ducks 2) and the top Flight 2 team (the Flyers).  The exceptions were the Western Patriots and the Riley Ice Dogs (who played at the elite level).  Unless some of these teams get a significant makeover this weekend, I think it may create a significant dilemma for CAHA.  I think Flight 1 is likely to be smaller this season, and perhaps, not enough quality teams to flight the division at all.


This I agree with, based on the CS tournament and other spring events there are maybe 3 truly flight 1 teams...the rest, if this was last year, are flight 2 or maybe bumped down to A
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: #4BobbyOrr on June 01, 2018, 10:27:37 PM
Awful quiet out hear tonight any surprises?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: BFinny77 on June 02, 2018, 08:10:53 PM
Any info on bears?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on June 03, 2018, 11:30:30 AM
Any info on bears?


Bears didnt happen - low turnout for Flyers, but guessing they still fielded a AA team. What I saw most of the teams from memorial day are somewhat similar plus or minus a few kids.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: lcadad on June 03, 2018, 06:47:11 PM
From what I heard, Flyers picked up some kids from the non-Bears team. 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on June 04, 2018, 12:12:09 PM
I heard the Kings AA team added half of Socal to their 06 roster.... :o
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: overHEATed on June 04, 2018, 09:13:06 PM
Lol!
Team is pretty stacked! Everyone one else will be playing for second place.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 6607 on June 05, 2018, 09:37:37 AM
So overHEATed did the roster turn out as you predicted -- a few additions to the Cal Patriots team from CS or was there a major overhaul?   I have no doubt that the the three Kings/Patriots teams could be distilled to a really good AA team even after the out of town guests left.  Still, its a bit early to be claiming the banner. The Kings will not be the only good team out there...
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 6607 on June 05, 2018, 09:46:32 AM
So I think after tryouts, we are down up to 17 19 possible AA teams.  Not sure about the status of Gulls 2.  Does anyone care to comment on the 07 vs 06 balance on the Runtso Ducks?  And is Perkins or Wilson coaching the OC group?


Southern California:
Bears
Ducks 1 (Runtso)
Ducks 2 (Tex)
Empire
Flyers
GoldRush
Gulls 1
Gulls 2
Ice Dogs 1 (Riley)
Ice Dogs 2 (Semenov)
Kings 1 (Calder)
Kings 2  (Pitcher)
OCHC (Wilson?)
OCHC 2
Reign
Saints
Wave
PML

SCAHA declarations page shows 14 15, adding PML and still counting the Bears. Earlier post says the Bears did not make...
   
Northern Cal:
Sharks 1
Sharks 2
Blackhawks (Khuong/?)
GSE North (Alexius/ 06-07)
GSE South (Rodriguez/ 06-07)
 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Bear71 on June 05, 2018, 10:24:46 AM
So I think after tryouts, we are down to 17 possible AA teams.  Not sure about the status of Gulls 2.  Does anyone care to comment on the 07 vs 06 balance on the Runtso Ducks?  And is Perkins or Wilson coaching the OC group?


Southern California:
Bears
Ducks 1 (Runtso)
Ducks 2 (Tex)
Empire
Flyers
GoldRush
Gulls 1
Gulls 2
Ice Dogs 1 (Riley)
Ice Dogs 2 (Semenov)
Kings 1 (Calder)
Kings 2  (Graham)
OCHC (Wilson?)
OCHC 2
Reign
Saints
Wave

SCAHA declarations page shows 14, still counting the Bears.  Earlier post says the Bears did not make...
   
Northern Cal:
Sharks (Hirschel)(06-07)
Blackhawks (Khuong/?)
GSE North (Alexius/ 06-07)
GSE South (Rodriguez/ 06-07)


Bears didn't field a AA team, but word has it that Pasadena might try to depending on the turnout this weekend.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on June 05, 2018, 10:58:36 AM
So I think after tryouts, we are down to 17 possible AA teams.  Not sure about the status of Gulls 2.  Does anyone care to comment on the 07 vs 06 balance on the Runtso Ducks?  And is Perkins or Wilson coaching the OC group?



Bears didn't field a AA team, but word has it that Pasadena might try to depending on the turnout this weekend.


Good for Pasadena...flight 2 could really use another team to compete for last place.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: SDhockeydad07 on June 05, 2018, 05:19:38 PM
Gulls planning for 2 AA teams,




AA1 Pruden -- for flight 1... made primarily of the AA2 team from last season, plus a couple of the top 07 SqA kids from last season and some A/BB kids that made large strides in development


AA2 Birkle -- for flight 2... made from the 07 SqA core from last season, plus six or seven 06 kids from AA2/A/BB last year


Ignore the CS rosters, only about half of the rosters ended up being on the actual AA teams after tryouts
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: overHEATed on June 06, 2018, 08:56:27 PM
Did Flyers end up forming a team?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Laking2018 on June 07, 2018, 04:16:33 AM
Yes they did
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: overHEATed on June 07, 2018, 11:07:05 PM

I'm assuming they are a mix of 06-07? Heavier on the 07 side as I don't recall them retaining many 06's.
Two key 06 players from their PWAA team last season are on Calder's team (forward & a Goalie), they have to be down to just a  couple 06's.
Wish them luck but I don't see them competing in flight one with a heavy 07 team that played PWBB or SQA last season.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Laking2018 on June 08, 2018, 04:25:30 AM
You are correct. Only 1 returning player from thier AA last season. The other 06s are from bb or inhouse. The 07s will be an inhouse, squirt A and squirt B mix. The top 07 and 06s flyers from last season have signed at other clubs. There is a chance the Bb team is stronger than the AA. ???
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: uggs on June 11, 2018, 08:32:41 AM
Has anyone heard if the labor day jamboree will be in San Jose again?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: goonhockey on June 11, 2018, 08:34:21 AM
Has anyone heard if the labor day jamboree will be in San Jose again?


Cahn-ville maybe...
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on June 11, 2018, 09:23:42 AM
Has anyone heard if the labor day jamboree will be in San Jose again?


Cahn-ville maybe...


Hoping for Vacaville! Been awhile since I have had my car broken into...my son could use some new equipment!
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 6607 on June 11, 2018, 04:57:23 PM
I wonder how many parents whose kids just made an AA team understand that their AA aspirations may soon come to an end over Labor Day, Flighting, Relegation weekend.   

Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on June 12, 2018, 10:58:26 AM
If you play for a big club you have nothing to worry about no matter how bad your team....if you play for the Flyers, Maple Leafs, etc...dont get attached to that extra A
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Teemu8 on June 12, 2018, 11:47:37 AM
How many teams got kicked down to A last year?  There were none at the Bantam level. 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: jvreagan on June 12, 2018, 12:01:08 PM
Jr Sharks had a PWAA team drop down to A last year after the Labor Day Jamboree plus a couple other evaluation games.  Not sure if there were others (no others in Norcal).
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on June 12, 2018, 12:36:40 PM
Jr Sharks had a PWAA team drop down to A last year after the Labor Day Jamboree plus a couple other evaluation games.  Not sure if there were others (no others in Norcal).


Jr Sharks dont count - basically each of their teams should be playing a level lower. AAA should be AA...AA should be A, etc etc
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Bear71 on June 12, 2018, 02:13:25 PM
How many teams got kicked down to A last year?  There were none at the Bantam level.
Saints got dropped to A last year and that they weren't dropped lower might have been generous.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: overHEATed on June 12, 2018, 02:30:25 PM
How many teams got kicked down to A last year?  There were none at the Bantam level.
Saints got dropped to A last year and that they weren't dropped lower might have been generous.
I believe, not checking the stats, they only won half their games.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: In The Crease on June 13, 2018, 02:28:50 PM
I wonder how many parents whose kids just made an AA team understand that their AA aspirations may soon come to an end over Labor Day, Flighting, Relegation weekend.


OC will likely be first to drop down regardless of who is coaching .


 ???  Ummm ok?!  What would lead you to make that comment?  Honestly, I would like to know. Seems you have some information.  Will be interesting to see how your prognostication unfolds.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 6607 on June 14, 2018, 08:55:13 AM
Starting to wonder if there will be a jamboree this year.  Various local tournaments are offering AA divisions in Bantam and/ or Pee Wee over Labor Day.  Any one hear anything recently? 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Pistonkev on June 14, 2018, 09:04:18 AM
Starting to wonder if there will be a jamboree this year.  Various local tournaments are offering AA divisions in Bantam and/ or Pee Wee over Labor Day.  Any one hear anything recently?
SCAHA said in there last meeting they were thinking of getting rid of it. Mentioned forcing teams to A. 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Teemu8 on June 14, 2018, 11:45:35 AM
I can say with absolute certainty that there will be a jamboree this season.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on June 14, 2018, 12:06:50 PM
Too much money not to do it...


Cant wait to hear all those parents fuming over all the money the spent going to Vacaville / San Jose just to get destroyed and bumped down to A!
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: rmackintosh on June 14, 2018, 12:20:25 PM
Too much money not to do it...


Cant wait to hear all those parents fuming over all the money the spent going to Vacaville / San Jose just to get destroyed and bumped down to A!


If they ARE getting destroyed...why shouldn't they go down to A (or Flight 2 if that makes everyone feel better). There is also a simple way to avoid the frustration at all...honestly evaluate the players/teams in your club and make a better effort to place them where they belong vs. where the parents THINK they belong. Communicate to your parents accurately and honestly what level team you think you may have this year and what and where you will play based on the team you have. That way, there will only be a few on the bubble that will still try to make it to AA and get bumped down instead an entire leagueision. JMHO
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Rainman on June 14, 2018, 12:26:54 PM
Isn’t jamboree in SoCal this year?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on June 14, 2018, 12:45:14 PM
Too much money not to do it...


Cant wait to hear all those parents fuming over all the money the spent going to Vacaville / San Jose just to get destroyed and bumped down to A!


If they ARE getting destroyed...why shouldn't they go down to A (or Flight 2 if that makes everyone feel better). There is also a simple way to avoid the frustration at all...honestly evaluate the players/teams in your club and make a better effort to place them where they belong vs. where the parents THINK they belong. Communicate to your parents accurately and honestly what level team you think you may have this year and what and where you will play based on the team you have. That way, there will only be a few on the bubble that will still try to make it to AA and get bumped down instead an entire leagueision. JMHO


You must be new to SOCAL hockey...can't disagree with anything you said but that is now how it works. Its all about the money...


Sure there are always examples of clubs who wont try and play a higher level but then they are the ones who lose the kids whose parents feel (something right sometimes wrong) their kid should be playing higher.



Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: trans4761 on June 14, 2018, 01:29:14 PM
Too much money not to do it...


Cant wait to hear all those parents fuming over all the money the spent going to Vacaville / San Jose just to get destroyed and bumped down to A!
Doubt anyone gets relegated to A.  That would constitute releasing players, the hope they will play A.  ALWAYS, AND I MEAN ALWAYS will be those few parent who think their , Lil Gretzkys are too good for A. One or two players leaving could lead to a mass migration  from said team, possibly causing teams to fold.....doubt that happens.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: LetsGoRangers on June 14, 2018, 01:36:01 PM
The only way a team or teams get bumped down to A is if turns out AA has 3 levels of teams...Top, middle and bottom. Top teams are the ones destroying or beating badly the middle / Bottom teams...middle teams beat up on the bottom teams. Easy to bump the bottom teams...but, if there is only the top and the rest that are close then no one gets bumped.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Pistonkev on June 14, 2018, 01:58:52 PM
Too much money not to do it...


Cant wait to hear all those parents fuming over all the money the spent going to Vacaville / San Jose just to get destroyed and bumped down to A!
Doubt anyone gets relegated to A.  That would constitute releasing players, the hope they will play A.  ALWAYS, AND I MEAN ALWAYS will be those few parent who think their , Lil Gretzkys are too good for A. One or two players leaving could lead to a mass migration  from said team, possibly causing teams to fold.....doubt that happens.
That and we all know that there are tons of roster spots in AA
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: SDhockeydad07 on June 14, 2018, 05:23:25 PM
Too much money not to do it...


Cant wait to hear all those parents fuming over all the money the spent going to Vacaville / San Jose just to get destroyed and bumped down to A!
Doubt anyone gets relegated to A.  That would constitute releasing players, the hope they will play A.  ALWAYS, AND I MEAN ALWAYS will be those few parent who think their , Lil Gretzkys are too good for A. One or two players leaving could lead to a mass migration  from said team, possibly causing teams to fold.....doubt that happens.


The best is when they leave the team that dropped to A, join a different rink, and end up playing A anyways!
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: rmackintosh on June 15, 2018, 09:12:07 AM
Too much money not to do it...


Cant wait to hear all those parents fuming over all the money the spent going to Vacaville / San Jose just to get destroyed and bumped down to A!


If they ARE getting destroyed...why shouldn't they go down to A (or Flight 2 if that makes everyone feel better). There is also a simple way to avoid the frustration at all...honestly evaluate the players/teams in your club and make a better effort to place them where they belong vs. where the parents THINK they belong. Communicate to your parents accurately and honestly what level team you think you may have this year and what and where you will play based on the team you have. That way, there will only be a few on the bubble that will still try to make it to AA and get bumped down instead an entire leagueision. JMHO


You must be new to SOCAL hockey...can't disagree with anything you said but that is now how it works. Its all about the money...


Sure there are always examples of clubs who wont try and play a higher level but then they are the ones who lose the kids whose parents feel (something right sometimes wrong) their kid should be playing higher.


...not new to SOCAL hockey.....but I slept in NORCAL hockey last night! ;-)


I am well aware that it IS about the money many times. Also that my "suggestion" was probably a pipe dream. However, can you really bitch about how bad CAHA is doing when they are actually fighting what the individual clubs are doing at every step? Also, I am sure EVERY club has its own specific agenda, making CAHA's job like herding cats...


I am not here to say CAHA is perfect...just that they are trying to work with a bunch of broken parts...and doing the best that they can. I thankless job I am sure...
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: JackBender on June 15, 2018, 11:16:50 AM
Couldn't disagree more. These people are being paid to do a job. That in and of itself should be enough of a thank you. If they're looking for a "pat on the back" do a better job. Be unbiased. Don't hold grudges. Don't be a puppet for the Ducks/Kings/Sharks. Govern without an agenda. Be fair and consistent.


Their main goal is to expand and promote the game of youth hockey in California. Every decision should be informed by this goal.     

Quite frankly, if this is the best they can do... then they're not suited to do the job. It's simply not good enough. And accepting the status quo is a choice, not a law.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Landshark on June 15, 2018, 01:35:18 PM
You, good sir, get a gold star.


:)
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: goonhockey on June 15, 2018, 02:03:55 PM
Couldn't disagree more. These people are being paid to do a job. That in and of itself should be enough of a thank you. If they're looking for a "pat on the back" do a better job. Be unbiased. Don't hold grudges. Don't be a puppet for the Ducks/Kings/Sharks. Govern without an agenda. Be fair and consistent.


Their main goal is to expand and promote the game of youth hockey in California. Every decision should be informed by this goal.     

Quite frankly, if this is the best they can do... then they're not suited to do the job. It's simply not good enough. And accepting the status quo is a choice, not a law.



are you running for an open position?!
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: rmackintosh on June 15, 2018, 02:32:16 PM
Couldn't disagree more. These people are being paid to do a job. That in and of itself should be enough of a thank you. If they're looking for a "pat on the back" do a better job. Be unbiased. Don't hold grudges. Don't be a puppet for the Ducks/Kings/Sharks. Govern without an agenda. Be fair and consistent.


Their main goal is to expand and promote the game of youth hockey in California. Every decision should be informed by this goal.     

Quite frankly, if this is the best they can do... then they're not suited to do the job. It's simply not good enough. And accepting the status quo is a choice, not a law.


You can disagree all you want but....garbage in/garbage out. I will agree that the makeup of CAHA, big clubs getting more say than others--more than perhaps they should is a real thing, but if you don't think they are doing the best that they can, and believe in black helicopters circling your club...you should start your campaign for next years board right away. Make a difference.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: JackBender on June 16, 2018, 09:52:05 AM
Perhaps I will, perhaps I will... but is there room in the Kangaroo Jack CAHA oligarchy for dissidence? He rules Vacaville with an iron fist, and the small clubs and non-Elite big club kids know this well. The core issue in past posts was "why" kids feel the need to leave at Bantams, leaving Midget hockey in Cali inconsistent at best. In my mind, it begins with a lack of boundaries and allowing too many kids to play up, both fueling the FOMO Cali pandemic. The end result is people "thinking" that they have to move to greener pastures in their Bantam years or they will never be noticed.


Thus begins the CAHA Spring (Hockey) Awakening!
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Carl Henry on July 27, 2018, 08:25:57 AM
Any competitive scrimmages coming up before the jamboree?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 6607 on August 07, 2018, 10:36:06 AM
SCAHA minutes say that they have adopted “pre emptive scheduling” for SCAHA AA games.  Anyone know what that means?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: area51 on August 07, 2018, 11:12:28 AM
SCAHA minutes say that they have adopted “pre emptive scheduling” for SCAHA AA games.  Anyone know what that means?
I think it means that the full schedule will not come out at once. Probably a few weeks at a time so they can make adjustments to who plays who. This will help to ensure that both the Ducks and Kings get enough wins against the crappier teams so they will make the playoffs.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: MO-ICETIME on August 07, 2018, 03:11:28 PM
SCAHA minutes say that they have adopted “pre emptive scheduling” for SCAHA AA games.  Anyone know what that means?
I believe this means they are giving each team an optional weekend for them to travel; essentially they get to request a bye week to participate in other tournaments etc.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Rats13 on August 07, 2018, 03:30:32 PM
SCAHA minutes say that they have adopted “pre emptive scheduling” for SCAHA AA games.  Anyone know what that means?
They also addresses block recruiting in 8U.  The limit is 2!!!  Is that a thing?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: HockeyGuy-99 on August 08, 2018, 02:37:01 PM
SCAHA minutes say that they have adopted “pre emptive scheduling” for SCAHA AA games.  Anyone know what that means?
They also addresses block recruiting in 8U.  The limit is 2!!!  Is that a thing?
I guess so it so!  If you're on a mite team and three kids come over from another club you don't get a SCAHA schedule for taking them.  I guess the real question is PeeWee and Bantam AA.  I think it is 5 or 6 skaters.  If you do "Block recruiting" and go over the lets say 5 skaters and you don't get a SCAHA schedule do you still get a CAHA schedule?  Wouldn't that be nice? 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: lcadad on August 09, 2018, 11:33:54 AM
For those new to Tier2, Beware of reschedules.  SCAHA forces teams to play those games, even if both teams agree to forfeit.   
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 6607 on August 17, 2018, 08:56:08 AM
So what our everyone’s first two match ups at the Jamboree?   Ice Dogs 1 (Riley) has Kings 1 and the Reign
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: JackBender on August 17, 2018, 10:08:23 AM
So what our everyone’s first two match ups at the Jamboree?   Ice Dogs 1 has kings 1 and the Reign


Which team is Ice Dogs 1? Assuming Kings 1 are the 06 group and not the 08 Super Hockey All-Stars (aka Future Flight 2 Grand Champions)?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Carl Henry on August 17, 2018, 01:31:36 PM
Ducks 1, Wave and Gulls
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: HockeyGuy-99 on August 17, 2018, 02:58:21 PM
Any pre jamboree predictions as to who will be the top squads?  20 teams?  They may have to do 3 flights - Flight 1 AA, Flight 2 AA and Flight 3 AA(PeeWee A with AA dues and no playoffs)? 




Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: LetsGoRangers on August 17, 2018, 03:08:29 PM
Jr Kings 1


Jr Ducks 1, GSE 1













Everyone else
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: overHEATed on August 17, 2018, 04:24:11 PM
Kings 1
Wave
Ice Dogs
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: JackBender on August 17, 2018, 05:00:36 PM
That's unfair to the Oilers... they should probably be with Everyone Else.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: overHEATed on August 18, 2018, 10:52:41 AM
Scrimmage update:
Kings(1) - 5, Empire - 0
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: lcadad on August 18, 2018, 03:32:55 PM
That's unfair to the Oilers... they should probably be with Everyone Else.


 ;D   The Kings1 team is pretty stacked, but that comes with a different type of pressure.  GSE can tell you all about being favorites and front runners at the PWAA level. 



Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: keepdrinkinthekoolaid on August 19, 2018, 11:55:38 AM
Scrimmage update, 8/19/18:
Jr Ducks1 4 - CA Wave 2
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Carl Henry on August 19, 2018, 05:06:51 PM
Bears71, I cant wait for the Kings 1 to Scrimmage the 84-85 Oilers, so that we can crown a champion. Some pretty good scrimmages coming next weekend.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: JackBender on August 19, 2018, 06:16:08 PM
Good games all around. Finally. But looks like it should be a cakewalk for Kings 1.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: keepdrinkinthekoolaid on August 19, 2018, 06:29:10 PM
Good games all around. Finally. But looks like it should be a cakewalk for Kings 1.
Where do we find the list of scrimmages, that have happened and that will be happening before The Jamboree?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: NotfromSoCal on August 19, 2018, 06:45:33 PM
There was a little jamboree up North this weekend but it doesn’t matter what happened.  Sounds like the Kings  1 are champions.  No need to play this season I suppose.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: overHEATed on August 19, 2018, 07:19:56 PM
If GSE2 is the same GSE from Carmen Star, (roster says that it is) Calder's team rolled them. Not even a competitive game and they picked up two studs that weren't on that Carmen Star roster.
Looks like they scrimmaged the Sharks 1 team (3 games). Stats are posted, but no final scores. GSE2 had a higher goal count, I assume they won all or most games.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: JackBender on August 19, 2018, 08:07:43 PM
There was a little jamboree up North this weekend but it doesn’t matter what happened.  Sounds like the Kings  1 are champions.  No need to play this season I suppose.


You bring up a point, but GSE does know a thing or two about dominating during the season... and then face-planting in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: NotfromSoCal on August 19, 2018, 09:06:12 PM
Every year is a new year.  Completely different kids so history means nothing.  Glad to see the season kicking off and the chatter starting.  Congratulations on already crowing the Kings.  Hilarious
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: JackBender on August 19, 2018, 09:43:56 PM
Your lack of faith is disturbing...
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: TheFourthA on August 20, 2018, 09:43:56 AM
Here’s a partially informed view and some wild guesses on how the teams seem to stack up.  If anyone knows birth year composition and/or first two round Jamboree opponents for any of these teams, please speak up.   I have tried to rank only because Flight 1 could be anywhere from 6 to 10 teams, and the devil is in finding the dividing line.  Very tough trying to sort out the bottom half/Flight 2...

 
1a. Ice Dogs 1 (Riley).   06 birth year team.  Looks like 2/3 of the team that took second in AA Flight 2 last season and added in AAA/AA players from other clubs.  Took second at Minnesota Stars and Stripes and competed at Elite (true AAA) level at CS. Gets Kings 1 and the Reign to start Jamboree. Lock for Flight 1. 
 
1b.  Kings 1 (Calder).  I believe another 06 birth year team.  Easily the best PWAA team in El Segundo and the overwhelming favorite among Kings 1 parents.   Looks like 2/3 PWA alumni and a couple PWBB studs topped off with AAA/AA players from last year.  Can’t say if ID1 or K1 (or GSE 2) is better on paper, but its more fun to put Kings 1 as 1b, and it relieves them of the pressure of being the favorite.  Gets Sharks 1 and ID1 to start Jamboree.  Lock for Flight 1. 
 
3. 1.c.  GSE 2 (North). Based on the weekend, looks like the best team in NorCal, with a fair amount of separation from the other NorCal teams.  Tough to calibrate with SoCal teams but upon confirmation that they dominated GSE 1 as well can't have them at third.  Get Gulls 2 and Ducks 2 to start Jamboree.  Lock for Flight 1.
 
4. Empire.  PWA team from last season returns largely intact.  Forward lines stronger than Ducks 1 on paper and beat them on ice.  Can an Empire parent comment on birth year composition of the team?  Big gap between them and  Top 3 but should be a Flight 1 team regardless of size of Flight. 
 
5. Ducks 1 (Runtso).  07 core from PWA last year, but lost key 05D and some scoring.  Added in some 06s (on blue line?).  Various pre-tryout incarnations of the team scuffled, and they already lost a scrimmage to Empire (but beat Wave).  But tough to see CAHA not giving Ducks a Flight 1 team.  After that, the team has great coaches and should only get stronger each week.  Gets Gulls 1 and Wave to start Jamboree.  Only danger is if SCAHA goes with 6 team Flight 1.
 
6. Gulls 1.  Said to be an 06 core group returning most players from last year’s team  that took 5th in Flight 2, with PWA/BB and Squirt A players mixed in.   A version of this team played tight games against Cal Patriots (Kings 1-ish) and Ducks 1 at CS. Gets Ducks 1 and Sharks 1 to start Jamboree.
 
7. Wave.  A lot of top PWA players with a couple of AAA/AA alumni mixed in.  Seems stronger than Runsto Ducks on paper but lost to them on ice.  Other warning signs:  close games against Bay Area Blazers and ID2 at CS and  was (is?) still looking for skaters after tryouts.  Gets Ducks 1 and ? to start Jamboree.
 
8.  Sharks 1.  Mainly returning PWA players from last season.  Based on weekend play, seems to be at least one step below GSE 2.  Good indication that division is weaker is that a Sharks team is in the discussion for making Flight 1. Gets Gulls 1 and Kings 1 to start Jamboree. 
 
9. GSE 1 (South).  Don’t think a GSE team has ever finished outside of Top 10 at PWAA. Seems to have had trouble generating offense this last weekend.  Gets Ice Dogs 2 and ? to start Jamboree.
 
10. Ice Dogs 2 Semenov.  06-07 team.   This team has some veterans of tier play that will have to get most of the playing time to be mid pack team at Flight 1.  Very disappointing showing at CS.   Match ups at Jamboree should help.  They may be in danger  of getting the 17-18 Flyers' treatment if CAHA goes with a 10 team Flight 1. Gets GSE 1 and Gulls 2 to start Jamboree.
 
11. Ducks 2 (Tex).  Looks like a top group of Squirt A players joining core of 07 birth year team that had a great showing last season … at Squirt A.  Tough to predict which players' games will translate at AA level.  They clearly have political pull in the Ducks to get an AA slot in place of an 06 team, and Ducks have great influence within CAHA.  Wouldn’t be surprised to see CAHA put them in Flight 1 over a better team(s) like last season.  Gets GSE2 and ? to start Jamboree.
 
12.  Blackhawks.  Bueller?  Bueller?  Don’t know anything specific about this team. Club had poor showing in Flight 1 last year, and last year’s PWA team was awful. Seems like a stretch for the club to make Flight 1.  Gets Sharks 2 and Kings 2 (?) to start Jamboree.
 
13.  Kings 2.  08-07 core team.  Gets Blackhawks and ? to start Jamboree.

14.  Gulls 2.  07 based team.   Said to be core 07 from Squirt A with PWAA, A and BB players mixed in.  Gets GSE 2 and ID2 to start Jamboree. Fun times.
 
15.  Valencia.  Looks like the core of the group is a talented group of Squirt A players from last season.  Aggressive practice schedule and good coaching, but still a reach for Flight 1.  No PWA team potentially makes a target for relegation
 
16.  Pasadena Maple Leafs.   A bunch of PWA kids with some Squirt BB studs mixed in.  Still looking for players after tryouts.  No PWA team potentially makes a target for relegation.
 
17.  OCHC.   Little carry over from last year’s AA teams.  Pre-tryout group did not fare well at PWA at the Rinks tournament
 
18.  Jr. Reign.  Traditionally field weak “multi-rink” PW AA teams that don’t     practice as a team. Was still looking for players after tryouts.
 
19.  Sharks 2.  Eyeballing the roster, the core of team seems to be from their Squirt A team.  Club has had recent problems at AAA and  AA level and probably does not have depth for two AA teams.  Had a tough weekend and would look like a possible candidate for relegation. Gets Blackhawks and Kings 2 to start Jamboree.
 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: JackBender on August 20, 2018, 10:47:05 AM
Excellent work, sir. Gold star for you.


But how dare you exclude analysis of the Kings 2 Chosen Few.  >:(
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 6607 on August 21, 2018, 07:48:08 AM
Pretty dead board, particularly considering around half the teams will be eliminated from the playoffs next weekend.  Who did everyone draw at the Jamboree (if not posted above)?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: HockeyGuy-99 on August 21, 2018, 08:03:41 AM
Pretty dead board, particularly considering around half the teams will be eliminated from the playoffs next weekend.  Who did everyone draw at the Jamboree (if not posted above)?
HaHa!  It's quite because everyone is seeing where their team is ranked and realizing they've been eliminated from the playoffs before the season started and wondering why they didn't just play A.  Sounds Bass Aackwards to me still.  Based on TheFourthA's ranking it should be more than than half getting eliminated.  Maybe top 6?  I meant the way they do things these days maybe the league championship should be decided when the Kings and Ice Dogs play?  Then we can all just go through the motions until the season is over.  I mean seriously, who gets better over the course of a season? 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: JackBender on August 21, 2018, 08:43:29 AM
I think those are just pre-season rankings going into the Jamboree. Perspectives will change after that, of course. But FourthA clearly has a strong grasp on player movement. The biggest question, though... as always, is if CAHA will really bump teams down to PWA, which already has 97 teams and their own parity problem, if not worse.


CAHA: We’ll solve one problem and create three more!!
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: NotfromSoCal on August 21, 2018, 09:11:34 AM
GSE 2 plays Ducks 2 and Gulls 2 in first two games.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 6607 on August 21, 2018, 09:18:47 AM
Is GSE 2 as good as it looks on the CAHA player stats?  Did they play GSE 1 and what was the result? 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: NotfromSoCal on August 21, 2018, 09:35:01 AM
GSE2 beat GSE1 7-0. beat Sharks2 7-1, Beat Sharks1 8-3
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: JackBender on August 21, 2018, 09:57:31 AM
GSE 2 plays Ducks 2 and Gulls 2 in first two games.


GSE 2 will outscore those two teams 57-0. Things get soft fast in PWAA... and Ducks 2 and Gulls 2 are prime Flight 2 candidates, if not dropped to the PWA Groupon Sweepstakes.

Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Bear71 on August 21, 2018, 10:20:33 AM
Looks like CAHA wants to make sure a trip to Vacaville is mandatory for Flight 1 by giving GSE 2 those two initial matchups.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: LetsGoRangers on August 21, 2018, 10:53:16 AM
Vacaville is a lovely place to visit - they dont call it the gem of NorCal for nothing.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Disco Dan on August 21, 2018, 06:43:08 PM
Is CAHA really planning on dropping teams to PWA?  That sounds counterintuitive when there are twenty-plus teams at that level.  LOVE the rankings, though.  I'll be curious to see the results!
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 6607 on August 21, 2018, 07:29:37 PM
Two teams were relegated last season, and OC2 had to play prove me games to avoid relegation.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: overHEATed on August 24, 2018, 04:45:05 PM
Any scrimmages happening this weekend?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Carl Henry on August 24, 2018, 08:35:53 PM
Ducks 1 vs Reighn
Ducks 1 vs Kings 1
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: NotfromSoCal on August 24, 2018, 09:55:48 PM
GSE2 vs Sharks 14U Girls AAA
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Richard Cranium on August 25, 2018, 11:58:26 AM
Jr Kings PWAAA Minor Vs. Ice dogs
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 6607 on August 26, 2018, 12:46:56 PM
ice dogs 1 over Wave, 9 to 1.  Any other scores?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: NotfromSoCal on August 26, 2018, 12:49:57 PM
GSE2 lost to Sharks 14U AAA Girls 5-4.  GSE down 5-1 and gave it a good run and had chances to tie. Good game.  14 year old girls are big and mean!  Lol
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Hockeycamper on August 26, 2018, 01:13:17 PM
Maple Leafs vs Flyers heard it was 8-1 Leafs.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 6607 on August 26, 2018, 04:14:58 PM
How did Ducks 1 do in their scrimmages this weekend?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: overHEATed on August 26, 2018, 04:31:48 PM
Lost to Kings1 5-1.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: hockeyboy on August 26, 2018, 05:59:10 PM
JD AA1 beat Jr Reign 5-0
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: HockeyGuy-99 on August 27, 2018, 03:13:29 PM
So...
 ID 9-1 over WaveKing1 5-1 over Ducks1Ducks1 5-0 over Reign14u AAA Girls 5-4 over GSE2Maple Leafs 8-1 over Flyers
How did the ID do against the Kings AAA minor?  Is that the Ice Dog team that beat the wave 9-1 or was it ID#2? 

Anything else happen over the weekend?  I assume there was more than just the above games posted. 

Were the Wave ranked higher than they should have or are the ID's just that strong?  9-1 is a big spread for 2 top 10 teams(pre-ranked) Can't wait for next weekend!  Good luck everyone.     

Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: JackBender on August 27, 2018, 06:16:44 PM
It would seem... Wave probably not as strong as expected.


Top teams:
ID (Riley)
Kings (Calder)
GSE 2


Next:
Empire
Ducks 1


Things appear to go south after that... then REALLY south. Will be interesting what CAHA does. Kings 2 will get the novelty Flight 2 treatment to feel good about themselves. Flyers and Reign appear very weak. Jury out on the rest of NoCal, OCHC, and the Gulls 2. Seems much weaker this year than last... with only a handful of truly AA teams.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Disco Dan on August 28, 2018, 12:16:43 PM
From what I've seen,  I wouldn't count anyone out yet.  Even though there are some clear frontrunners, there are a number of teams that are shades of each other.   The real test will come after Labor Day during the first CAHA weekend. Some teams have been practicing for weeks and some just started last week.  Once the rust is knocked off, all bets are off.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: keepdrinkinthekoolaid on August 28, 2018, 04:14:01 PM

From what I've seen,  I wouldn't count anyone out yet.  Even though there are some clear frontrunners, there are a number of teams that are shades of each other.   The real test will come after Labor Day during the first CAHA weekend. Some teams have been practicing for weeks and some just started last week.  Once the rust is knocked off, all bets are off.

Sorry Disco Dan, could not disagree more. 
9-1, 8-1, 8-3, 7-0, 7-1, 5-0 & 5-1 are all scores from scrimmages that we have heard about. 
Season will most likely be somewhere around 16 games, to determine playoff seeding, after Peewee Tier II teams get allocated to Flt 1, Flt II or ??.
Without mentioning specific clubs and/or possibly offending parents of the next future Gretzky (once again), there is obvious disparity in this division, actually HUGE disparity, just saying..
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: overHEATed on August 28, 2018, 05:07:41 PM

From what I've seen,  I wouldn't count anyone out yet.  Even though there are some clear frontrunners, there are a number of teams that are shades of each other.   The real test will come after Labor Day during the first CAHA weekend. Some teams have been practicing for weeks and some just started last week.  Once the rust is knocked off, all bets are off.

Sorry Disco Dan, could not disagree more. 
9-1, 8-1, 8-3, 7-0, 7-1, 5-0 & 5-1 are all scores from scrimmages that we have heard about. 
Season will most likely be somewhere around 16 games, to determine playoff seeding, after Peewee Tier II teams get allocated to Flt 1, Flt II or ??.
Without mentioning specific clubs and/or possibly offending parents of the next future Gretzky (once again), there is obvious disparity in this division, actually HUGE disparity, just saying..



Agree 100%, couple practices here and there isn't going to bridge that huge gap.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Disco Dan on August 28, 2018, 06:03:08 PM
I don't necessarily disagree Kool-Aid,  I just think early season scrimmages don't give  you much of a look.   If those scores hold up this weekend, I'll buy in.  Otherwise, GSE, Kings 1, and Riley ID, see to be tops.  I'm unconvinced as to the rest.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: keepdrinkinthekoolaid on August 28, 2018, 06:44:27 PM
Ok Disco Dan, but everybody knew Tier II Jamboree for Flt I, Flt II or ?? was coming up first weekend of Sep., correct?  The Jamboree that decides what "flight title" our children will play for this year.

Some clubs waiting until the middle or end of August to start practicing does not appear to be good planning. 

GSE2, IDRiley + Kings 1 who seem to have an apparent philosophy of "if you don't want to play against them, sign them to an LOI, with a roster of 20" all do appear to be the class of the division BUT beware as previously mentioned in this blog, GSE1 had that distinction last year. 

Some movement will happen, sure.

But decisions were made by clubs (both big & small) this year that do not appear to be hockey related. 
Do you think our CAHA clubs may be actually financially driven?  Who knew?! 
     
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Disco Dan on August 28, 2018, 08:34:53 PM
"...may be actually financially driven..."That may be the most accurate thing ever said on this board!! Good luck this weekend!!
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: JackBender on August 28, 2018, 09:11:06 PM
Last year had GSE1... but PWAA had many more contenders (Bears, OCHC, Kings 1, Gulls 1, etc.).  This year seems weak after the first 3.  However, though... there are really teams with 20 players???  At PWAA???
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: keepdrinkinthekoolaid on August 28, 2018, 09:35:35 PM
Last year had GSE1... but PWAA had many more contenders (Bears, OCHC, Kings 1, Gulls 1, etc.).  This year seems weak after the first 3.  However, though... there are really teams with 20 players???  At PWAA???
Good luck everyone this weekend!

Yes, PWAA has a roster of 20, see for yourself on CAHA’s webpage, search stats by exh/tournaments or All Games, then LA Jr Kings(1) has a listed roster of 18 skaters & 2 goalies
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: PuckMonster on August 28, 2018, 11:07:16 PM
I found this about roster size also on USA Hockey not sure if this helps your argument


A maximum of 20 players, in which not more than 18 are skaters, shall be permitted to play in the game.


https://cdn4.sportngin.com/attachments/document/0037/7649/2011-13_Rulebook.pdf (https://cdn4.sportngin.com/attachments/document/0037/7649/2011-13_Rulebook.pdf)
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: JackBender on August 29, 2018, 07:54:42 AM
I found this about roster size also on USA Hockey not sure if this helps your argument


A maximum of 20 players, in which not more than 18 are skaters, shall be permitted to play in the game.


https://cdn4.sportngin.com/attachments/document/0037/7649/2011-13_Rulebook.pdf (https://cdn4.sportngin.com/attachments/document/0037/7649/2011-13_Rulebook.pdf)


1st post?! Ever?! I think the Jr Kings' GM just joined CalHockey to cut this one off at the pass!  ;D


18 skaters at PWAA is ridiculous, to say the least. The max rule is a cap, and in place to stop this type of organizational greed. For the Jr Kings to do this to the kids and families is a total mockery of the USA Hockey model. Shameful. 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Go Kings_26 on August 29, 2018, 08:07:51 AM
Isn't that last reference 2013?  Does that still apply?  Isn't there something a bit more recent?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: keepdrinkinthekoolaid on August 29, 2018, 08:15:27 AM
Isn't that last reference 2013?  Does that still apply?  Isn't there something a bit more recent?
First link was to be a USA Hockey Model Association
Second link (the "rookie, 1st post")  was USA Hockey Rulebook


You are correct.
2017 - 2021 USA Hockey Rulebook link (found on USA Hockey webpage)
https://cdn1.sportngin.com/attachments/document/0042/4244/Rulebook_2017-21_FINAL.pdf (https://cdn1.sportngin.com/attachments/document/0042/4244/Rulebook_2017-21_FINAL.pdf)
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: lcadad on August 29, 2018, 08:26:11 AM
Last year had GSE1... but PWAA had many more contenders (Bears, OCHC, Kings 1, Gulls 1, etc.).  This year seems weak after the first 3.  However, though... there are really teams with 20 players???  At PWAA???


Yes that is the new hotness.  It works best when you sign, and then 5 new players show up when practices actually start.   :o
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: trans4761 on August 29, 2018, 08:54:39 AM
Last year had GSE1... but PWAA had many more contenders (Bears, OCHC, Kings 1, Gulls 1, etc.).  This year seems weak after the first 3.  However, though... there are really teams with 20 players???  At PWAA???


Yes that is the new hotness.  It works best when you sign, and then 5 new players show up when practices actually start.   :o


See Bantsm AA "Half Offs" aka oc1



Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: JackBender on August 29, 2018, 09:11:35 AM
Last year had GSE1... but PWAA had many more contenders (Bears, OCHC, Kings 1, Gulls 1, etc.).  This year seems weak after the first 3.  However, though... there are really teams with 20 players???  At PWAA???


Yes that is the new hotness.  It works best when you sign, and then 5 new players show up when practices actually start.   :o


See Bantsm AA "Half Offs" aka oc1


Common at Bantam, of course... but not at PWAA "Full Price +20%" aka Kings1.  :o
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: justanotherhockeydad on August 29, 2018, 09:19:45 AM
Last year had GSE1... but PWAA had many more contenders (Bears, OCHC, Kings 1, Gulls 1, etc.).  This year seems weak after the first 3.  However, though... there are really teams with 20 players???  At PWAA???


Yes that is the new hotness.  It works best when you sign, and then 5 new players show up when practices actually start.   :o


See Bantsm AA "Half Offs" aka oc1
Bantam AA OC1 has 9 forwards, 6 defensemen and 2 goalies.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Bear71 on August 29, 2018, 09:40:22 AM
Last year had GSE1... but PWAA had many more contenders (Bears, OCHC, Kings 1, Gulls 1, etc.).  This year seems weak after the first 3.  However, though... there are really teams with 20 players???  At PWAA???


Yes that is the new hotness.  It works best when you sign, and then 5 new players show up when practices actually start.   :o


See Bantsm AA "Half Offs" aka oc1


Common at Bantam, of course... but not at PWAA "Full Price +20%" aka Kings1.  :o


You can't shame us.  Only we can shame us.


https://youtu.be/UVgbFttx-6I (https://youtu.be/UVgbFttx-6I)
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Carl Henry on August 29, 2018, 10:22:05 AM
Can’t wait to see what happens this weekend, does anyone know when they announce who made flt 1 or 2?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: keepdrinkinthekoolaid on August 29, 2018, 10:41:15 AM
Can’t wait to see what happens this weekend, does anyone know when they announce who made flt 1 or 2?
As mentioned previously, last year OCHC2 had to play at least 2 extra games, in addition to Jamboree and the 3 game SCAHA Exhibition Schedule.

AND they were at the first CAHA Weekend in Vacaville, CA (10/06/17-10/08/17) playing other SoCal Flt II Teams.

Within a couple weeks?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: LetsGoRangers on August 29, 2018, 12:24:32 PM
Where is Kangaroo Jack when you need him...I feel like he would offer a great perspective on this.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Bear71 on August 29, 2018, 12:56:06 PM
That Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval (USA Hockey Model Association) is always the first thing I look for when I'm signing my kid up at a club.   ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: JackBender on August 29, 2018, 01:12:41 PM
maybe this should be a separate topic. USA Hockey promotes the Model Association tag for organizations which “fully implement programming dedicated to age-appropriate, age-specific skill development in accordance with USA Hockey's American Development Model throughout the 8-and-Under, 10-and-Under and 12-and-Under age classifications.” The application process requires an applying organization to certify that it “shall” implement a number of objective requirements at every age level. Most of the objectives are REQUIRED, while a few other at each age level are “recommended” The checklist is right here: https://assets.ngin.com/attachments/document/0047/5580/KM_checklist_v6.pdf (https://assets.ngin.com/attachments/document/0047/5580/KM_checklist_v6.pdf)  Read it yourself.

JK doesn't meet many of the requirements. Just look at their rosters, game/practice schedules and program descriptions (click on the "What is Included" links here: https://www.jrkingshockey.com/faq (https://www.jrkingshockey.com/faq)). Examples: ADM requires a minimum # of practice hours per week and season; most JK teams don’t get that much ice time. ADM limits number of games at squirt to 35/season, and 40/season at PeeWee; most JK teams annually exceed the max by 25-50%.  ADM requires 11-12 skaters per team at squirt, 11-14 skaters at PeeWee; most JK teams exceed those numbers. ADM requires station-based practices, with written practice plans, approved and kept by Hockey Director; JK doesn’t do it. ADM recommends at least three days off over Thanksgiving; JK requires most teams to play in their own tourney that weekend. ADM mandates “equal playing time for all players”; JK . . . well . . . .

Am I picking on the JK a little? Yeah, but only because they chose to go out of their way to represent themselves as something they are not, which cheapens the value of the Model Designation for those clubs who actually try to follow the ADM guidelines. Shameful and hypocritical.


WHAT?!?  But the Jr Kings were just added to the USA Hockey list of Model Associations?!?  Oh... you mean that's total nonsense when looking at actual facts?!?  :o

https://www.admkids.com/news_article/show/938314 (https://www.admkids.com/news_article/show/938314)

Yeah, back to the topic at hand... allowing 20 kids on a PW roster is shameful and ridiculous. Oh, and I wonder how the USA Hockey ADM model handles pushing Squirts up an entire division to play against kids two years older than them? USA Hockey probably endorses that, right? Because that's good for the kids and the league on a whole, right? 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: ABCDE on August 29, 2018, 01:16:55 PM
OC1 had 20 kids last year in PWAA.  It's not exclusive to JK.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: jvreagan on August 29, 2018, 01:36:46 PM

Am I picking on the JK a little? Yeah, but only because they chose to go out of their way to represent themselves as something they are not, which cheapens the value of the Model Designation for those clubs who actually try to follow the ADM guidelines. Shameful and hypocritical.


Maybe as more associations get certified as ADM model associations either the benefits aren't there or there is not as much oversight.  I was a coach at an association when they earned the designation 5 or so years ago.  When that happened USA Hockey donated the half ice boards for us to use, and they also audited our programs for compliance.  For example it was the first year we actually kicked coaches off the bench for not having their coaching certifications up to date. 


There are also clubs that try and follow ADM that aren't designated as model associations.  And also clubs that claim to follow ADM and do nothing of sort (speaking from past experience). 


Maybe it will take a year for JK to sort it out to get fully compliant, or maybe JK don't care.  Old habits die hard...
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: JackBender on August 29, 2018, 01:40:17 PM
OC1 had 20 kids last year in PWAA.  It's not exclusive to JK.


Incorrect. 19. And OCHC aren't propping themselves up as a USA Hockey Model Association.   
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: lcadad on August 30, 2018, 09:52:01 AM
USA Hockey model association rules REQUIREMENT is that Peewee teams have maximum of 14 skaters/2 goalies. Look it up. JK making a mockery of the designation they just applied for and received by openly ignoring this and many other basic, objective requirements (game/practice ratios, # of games, # hours of practice, station based practices, etc.). Dishonest.
https://cdn1.sportngin.com/attachments/document/0047/5580/KM_checklist_v6.pdf (https://cdn1.sportngin.com/attachments/document/0047/5580/KM_checklist_v6.pdf)


Well stated!
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: HockeyGuy-99 on August 30, 2018, 10:02:39 AM
maybe this should be a separate topic. USA Hockey promotes the Model Association tag for organizations which “fully implement programming dedicated to age-appropriate, age-specific skill development in accordance with USA Hockey's American Development Model throughout the 8-and-Under, 10-and-Under and 12-and-Under age classifications.” The application process requires an applying organization to certify that it “shall” implement a number of objective requirements at every age level. Most of the objectives are REQUIRED, while a few other at each age level are “recommended” The checklist is right here: https://assets.ngin.com/attachments/document/0047/5580/KM_checklist_v6.pdf (https://assets.ngin.com/attachments/document/0047/5580/KM_checklist_v6.pdf)  Read it yourself.

JK doesn't meet many of the requirements. Just look at their rosters, game/practice schedules and program descriptions (click on the "What is Included" links here: https://www.jrkingshockey.com/faq (https://www.jrkingshockey.com/faq)). Examples: ADM requires a minimum # of practice hours per week and season; most JK teams don’t get that much ice time. ADM limits number of games at squirt to 35/season, and 40/season at PeeWee; most JK teams annually exceed the max by 25-50%.  ADM requires 11-12 skaters per team at squirt, 11-14 skaters at PeeWee; most JK teams exceed those numbers. ADM requires station-based practices, with written practice plans, approved and kept by Hockey Director; JK doesn’t do it. ADM recommends at least three days off over Thanksgiving; JK requires most teams to play in their own tourney that weekend. ADM mandates “equal playing time for all players”; JK . . . well . . . .

Am I picking on the JK a little? Yeah, but only because they chose to go out of their way to represent themselves as something they are not, which cheapens the value of the Model Designation for those clubs who actually try to follow the ADM guidelines. Shameful and hypocritical.


WHAT?!?  But the Jr Kings were just added to the USA Hockey list of Model Associations?!?  Oh... you mean that's total nonsense when looking at actual facts?!?  :o

https://www.admkids.com/news_article/show/938314 (https://www.admkids.com/news_article/show/938314)

Yeah, back to the topic at hand... allowing 20 kids on a PW roster is shameful and ridiculous. Oh, and I wonder how the USA Hockey ADM model handles pushing Squirts up an entire division to play against kids two years older than them? USA Hockey probably endorses that, right? Because that's good for the kids and the league on a whole, right?
Mites aren't allowed to play up anymore because we are very concerned about their development but we will let Squirts play PeeWee Tier hockey1.  Money Money Money!       
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: PuckMonster on August 31, 2018, 03:00:26 PM
Last year had GSE1... but PWAA had many more contenders (Bears, OCHC, Kings 1, Gulls 1, etc.).  This year seems weak after the first 3.  However, though... there are really teams with 20 players???  At PWAA???


Yes that is the new hotness.  It works best when you sign, and then 5 new players show up when practices actually start.   :o


Rule 201 Composition of Teams (a) A team must start a game with a minimum of six players. Any time that a team has been reduced to less than four players, the game shall be declared a forfeit. A maximum of 20 players, in which not more than 18 are skaters, shall be permitted to play in the game.


We should raise the number to 30 kids to allow for "Healthy Scratches"
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Kangaroo Jack on August 31, 2018, 05:29:02 PM

Hear ye!  Hear ye!  Hear ye!


Good citizens of CAHA-sanctioned territories and the Greater Vacaville Meth Lab Regions!  Friends and unhinged Ducks 06 parents!  I, Kangaroo Jack, CAHA Senior Vice President of Shenanigans & Tomfoolery, do hereby declare the 2018/2019 hockey and mid-day drinking season underway!


As much as it disgusts me… as much as it causes my skin to crawl… I will first shift my focus from the AAA future-Gretzky and lil’ Corey Perry utopia to the cesspool that is AA.  Oh, you say I’d get more games at AA?  Not interested.  You say local competition is really good at AA?  I spit in your face.  You say AAA is too expensive?  I say it’s NOT expensive enough!


So if CAHA endorses 20 kids for one PW AA team… I ask why not 23?!  Why not 26?!  As a staunch follower of the ADM Tailgate & Pregame Booze Hound Model, these guys and the large-calved gals from the armpit of Cali really know what they’re talking about!  So all you AA parents just shut up and be happy that my fine friends at CAHA allow you the privilege to play hockey in our beloved, honest and tooooootally transparent league.


As a side note, all kickbacks and greasy payments are due BEFORE the Annual Jamboree & Organizational Shakedown is underway.  No late payments accepted.


Back on topic… I declare the 20 kid excessive roster talk finished!  And any further complaints can be sent to CAHA Headquarters care/of SHRED IMMEDIATELY.


That’s it.  My first order of business is complete.  Now I can go back to the NHL breeding ground that is PWAAA.  Yup, that’s right.  The Ducks 06 are back.  Hobo Village is open for business.  And after a long, long break of acting like they’re not really playing hockey, the perpetual 06 Runner-ups will be forced to actually play games with their dwindling 8-kid roster.  Sure, they might be a little bit lighter on kids this year, a little bit less talented, a little bit slower, a little bit weaker, a little bit more whiny and just a tad bit more offensively predictable… but I’m sure it’s going to be a super duper year for those scrappy little Ducklings.


Here’s to finally winning a banner, boys!  Here’s to double-shifting three kids!  And here’s to Hobo Village finally eradicating small pox!


Faithfully,
Kangaroo Jack
CAHA Sr. Vice President of Shenanigans & Tommfoolery


P.S. Nice throwback AAA jerseys San Jose.  I wonder where you got that idea.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: goonhockey on August 31, 2018, 10:13:15 PM
any first day results??
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: lcadad on August 31, 2018, 11:48:06 PM
any first day results??


PWAA games start tommorrow (9/1).
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 6607 on September 01, 2018, 02:29:28 PM
OC tied PML, 2-2.  Reign over Flyers 4-0.  Kings 2 over bhawks 3-2.  Any other scores?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 6607 on September 01, 2018, 03:30:16 PM
Empire over Gse(1), I think 2-1.  Ice Dogs(1) over Kings(1),  2-1. 

Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: overHEATed on September 01, 2018, 04:52:23 PM
GSE2 vs. Ducks2 5-3. Even game first half.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Carl Henry on September 01, 2018, 05:29:04 PM
Ducks 2 tied Wave 1-1
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Carl Henry on September 01, 2018, 05:41:19 PM
Sorry I meant Ducks 1 tied Wave 1-1
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 6607 on September 01, 2018, 05:52:08 PM
Anyone know the scores for Sharks 1 and 2 today?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: overHEATed on September 01, 2018, 06:11:01 PM
Anyone know the scores for Sharks 1 and 2 today?


Sharks 1 was getting dominated by one of the Gulls teams, walked away to watch a more competitive game. Not sure what the outcome was, I assume the Gulls rolled them.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: JackBender on September 01, 2018, 06:21:08 PM
Hey PWAA parents... you're all being blatantly ripped off by CAHA.  Your games should be (2) 25-minute periods... not (2) 20-minute periods.  It's printed and published in the CAHA 2017-2019 Guidebook. 


Here is the rule:


On Page 31:
9.9 CAHA TIER II FLIGHT SYSTEM ADMINISTRATIVE GUIDELINES:
6) Evaluation Jamboree format will be 1-hour mini game slots, with a 3-minute warmup, (2) 25-minute runtime periods, and a 1-minute intermission between periods. 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: overHEATed on September 02, 2018, 09:45:20 AM
ID1 3 -1 vs. Reign
Kings1 7- 0 vs. Sharks 1
Any more score updates?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 6607 on September 02, 2018, 10:00:23 AM
Dogs had 3 goals waved off, and officially outshot Reign 20–2, but must have had 35 or more actual shots on goal.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Carl Henry on September 02, 2018, 03:22:29 PM
Ducks 1 VS San Jose 5-1

Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Disco Dan on September 02, 2018, 07:35:41 PM
Anyone know records after today?  Thoughts?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Ethicka on September 02, 2018, 07:54:43 PM
It would be nice if someone would post all the scores for the games since CAHA isn't. 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Carl Henry on September 02, 2018, 08:43:28 PM
Ducks 1 vs Gulls 2-1
Ducks 1 vs San Jose 5-1
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Deuce on September 03, 2018, 02:23:47 PM
Heard Ice Dogs 2 beat Wave 1 2-0
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Carl Henry on September 03, 2018, 04:39:36 PM
Ducks 1 lost to ID1  2-1
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: LetsGoRangers on September 03, 2018, 10:13:47 PM
So based on the scored and Politics...I see flight 1 being:

ID 1Kings 1Gulls 1
Ducks 1GSE 2WaveBlackhawks?
Empire?
Sharks 1 as a political add?


Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Rocket91 on September 03, 2018, 11:20:49 PM
Sharks1 was dominated in all 4 games. They should be going to flight2


vs Kings1 0-7
vs Gulls1 1-3
vs Ducks1 1-5
vs Ducks2 1-3
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Bear71 on September 04, 2018, 07:49:04 AM
Sharks1 was dominated in all 4 games. They should be going to flight2


vs Kings1 0-7
vs Gulls1 1-3
vs Ducks1 1-5
vs Ducks2 1-3


(https://i.imgur.com/ex0rqf4.jpg)



Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: TheFourthA on September 04, 2018, 10:24:00 AM
Here’s what I have heard for scores and records for what I see as the Top 10 teams.   In trying to rank teams, I found that I relied on the eye test more than won-loss records for the teams that I watched.   The match-ups were not particularly helpful.  Given the format, I am not a big believer in placing a lot of value in close losses.  These were artificially close scrimmages.  The lesser teams benefited greatly from icing the puck to kill penalties and, in many of these scrimmages,  seemed to be spending all they had trying to stay in the game. My sense was that the third periods would have been ugly.
 
I see a pretty clear top 6, and 7-10 to my eye are something of a slippery slope. 
 
1.    Ice Dogs (1) (4-0): Beat Kings(1) 2-1, Reign 3-1; Ducks(2) 3-0, and Ducks(1) 2-1. 
 
2.    GSE(2)  (3-0-1):   Beat Ducks(2) 5-3, Gulls (2) (didn’t hear score), and  B’hawks 5-3.  Tied  Empire 2-2. 
 
3.    Kings (1) (2-1-1):  Lost to Ice Dogs (1) 2-1; Beat Sharks(1) 7-0 and GSE(1) 5-0.  Tied  Gulls (1) 2-2.  Dominated two Flight 2 teams and played tight games against likely Flight 1 teams.  Easily passes the eye test. 
 
4.   Gulls (1) (2-1-1):  Beat Sharks (1) 5-3; lost to Ducks (1) 2-1; beat  Kings(2) 6-1.  Tied Kings (1) 2-2.   
 
5.   Empire (3-0-1):  Beat GSE(1) 2-1, Ducks(2) 1-0,  and Reign 4-2.   Tied GSE(2) 2-2.
 
6.   Ducks (1) (2-1-1):  Tied Wave 1-1; beat Gulls (1) (2-1) and Sharks (1) 5-1.  Lost to Ice Dogs (1) 2-1.   Clearly belong in Top 6.   
 
If CAHA goes with a larger Flight 1 like last season:
 
7.   Blackhawks (2-2):  Lost to Kings(2) 3-2; Beat Sharks(2) 9-1 and Wave 3-2;  lost to GSE(2) 5-3.   In the games I watched, I don’t think they passed the eye test, but the last two match ups look like  they are in the running.
 
8.   Ice Dogs (2) (3-0-1).  Tied Gulls (2); Beat GSE(1) 2-0, OC 9-0, and Wave 2-0.  Not sure what the purpose of the Wave match-up would have been unless it was to fill the 8th spot spot in Flight 1.  Would like to know if they rolled lines or relied on their top players.


 9.   Ducks (2) (1-3). Lost to GSE (2) 5-3, Empire 1-0, and ID(1) 3-0;  beat Sharks 1 (3-1).  Didn’t catch the Sharks (1) game – did D2 dominate but not reflected in score? Last match up does not look like one you would give a team that was being considered for Flight 1.  I had a hard time choosing between Wave and D2.  D2 play a more team oriented and tougher game.

10.  Wave (1-2-1).  Tied  Ducks (1); beat PML 5-1; Lost to B’Hawks 3-2 and ID(2) 2-0.  Losses to B’Hawks and ID(2) could be the dividing line. 

 
   
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: keepdrinkinthekoolaid on September 04, 2018, 10:38:39 AM
Here’s what I have heard for scores and records for what I see as the Top 10 teams.   In trying to rank teams, I found that I relied on the eye test more than won-loss records for the teams that I watched.   The match-ups were not particularly helpful. Given the format, I am not a big believer in placing a lot of value in close losses.  These were artificially close scrimmages. The lesser teams benefited greatly from icing the puck to kill penalties and, in many of these scrimmages,  seemed to be spending all they had trying to stay in the game. My sense was that the third periods would have been ugly.
I see a pretty clear top 6, and 7-10 to my eye are something of a slippery slope. 
1.    Ice Dogs (1) (4-0): Beat Kings(1) 2-1, Reign 3-1; Ducks(2) 3-0, and Ducks(1) 2-1. 
2.    GSE(2)  (3-0-1):   Beat Ducks(2) 5-3, Gulls (2) (didn’t hear score), and  B’hawks 5-3.  Tied  Empire 2-2. 
3.    Kings (1) (2-1-1):  Lost to Ice Dogs (1) 2-1; Beat Sharks(1) 7-0 and GSE(1) 5-0.  Tied  Gulls (1) 2-2.  Dominated two Flight 2 teams and played tight games against likely Flight 1 teams.  Easily passes the eye test. 
4.   Gulls (1) (2-1-1):  Beat Sharks (1) 5-3; lost to Ducks (1) 2-1; beat  Kings(2) 6-1.  Tied Kings (1) 2-2.   
5.   Empire (3-0-1):  Beat GSE(1) 2-1, Ducks(2) 1-0,  and Reign 4-2.   Tied GSE(2) 2-2.
6.   Ducks (1) (2-1-1):  Tied Wave 1-1; beat Gulls (1) (2-1) and Sharks (1) 5-1.  Lost to Ice Dogs (1) 2-1.   Clearly belong in Top 6.   
If CAHA goes with a larger Flight 1 like last season:
7.   Blackhawks (2-2):  Lost to Kings(2) 3-2; Beat Sharks(2) 9-1 and Wave 3-2;  lost to GSE(2) 5-3.   In the game I watched, I don’t think they passed the eye test, but the last two match ups look like  they are in the running.
8.   Ice Dogs (2) (3-0-1).  Tied Gulls (2); Beat GSE(1) 2-0, OC 9-0, and Wave 2-0.  Not sure what the purpose of the Wave match-up would have been unless it was to fill the 8th spot spot in Flight 1.  Would like to know if they rolled lines or relied on their top players.
9.   Ducks (2) (1-3). Lost to GSE (2) 5-3, Empire 1-0, and ID(1) 3-0;  beat Sharks 1 (3-1).  Didn’t catch the Sharks (1) game – did D2 dominate but not reflected in score? Last match up does not look like one you would give a team that was being considered for Flight 1.  I had a hard time choosing between Wave and D2.  D2 play a more team oriented and tougher game.
10.  Wave (1-2-1).  Tied  Ducks (1); beat PML 5-1; Lost to B’Hawks 3-2 and ID(2) 2-0.  Losses to B’Hawks and ID(2) could be the dividing line. 
Sorry KJ, I think there is another parent who actually speaks the truth and bases his decisions on facts..
Would it be too much to ask to have you make a run at CAHA Board of Directors?  http://www.caha.com/directors.pl?t=1 (http://www.caha.com/directors.pl?t=1)

Current President is non-responsive to email requests of at least an explanation of 25 minute halves being relegated to 20 minute halves, although; I did hear that a verbal answer of "that's all the time evaluators needed" was given to some parents. I'm sure a refund check from CAHA is in the mail to all our clubs.

I also did overhear a parent state,
"I feel like I ordered and paid for a Grande, got served a Tall & then am being told that is all the coffee I need"! 

Truer words have never been spoken!   
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: give it a rip on September 04, 2018, 10:46:12 AM
  Here’s what I have heard for scores and records for what I see as the Top 10 teams.   In trying to rank teams, I found that I relied on the eye test more than won-loss records for the teams that I watched.   The match-ups were not particularly helpful.  Given the format, I am not a big believer in placing a lot of value in close losses.  These were artificially close scrimmages.  The lesser teams benefited greatly from icing the puck to kill penalties and, in many of these scrimmages,  seemed to be spending all they had trying to stay in the game. My sense was that the third periods would have been ugly.
 
I see a pretty clear top 6, and 7-10 to my eye are something of a slippery slope. 
 
1.    Ice Dogs (1) (4-0): Beat Kings(1) 2-1, Reign 3-1; Ducks(2) 3-0, and Ducks(1) 2-1. 
 
2.    GSE(2)  (3-0-1):   Beat Ducks(2) 5-3, Gulls (2) (didn’t hear score), and  B’hawks 5-3.  Tied  Empire 2-2. 
 
3.    Kings (1) (2-1-1):  Lost to Ice Dogs (1) 2-1; Beat Sharks(1) 7-0 and GSE(1) 5-0.  Tied  Gulls (1) 2-2.  Dominated two Flight 2 teams and played tight games against likely Flight 1 teams.  Easily passes the eye test. 
 
4.   Gulls (1) (2-1-1):  Beat Sharks (1) 5-3; lost to Ducks (1) 2-1; beat  Kings(2) 6-1.  Tied Kings (1) 2-2.   
 
5.   Empire (3-0-1):  Beat GSE(1) 2-1, Ducks(2) 1-0,  and Reign 4-2.   Tied GSE(2) 2-2.
 
6.   Ducks (1) (2-1-1):  Tied Wave 1-1; beat Gulls (1) (2-1) and Sharks (1) 5-1.  Lost to Ice Dogs (1) 2-1.   Clearly belong in Top 6.   
 
If CAHA goes with a larger Flight 1 like last season:
 
7.   Blackhawks (2-2):  Lost to Kings(2) 3-2; Beat Sharks(2) 9-1 and Wave 3-2;  lost to GSE(2) 5-3.   In the game I watched, I don’t think they passed the eye test, but the last two match ups look like  they are in the running.
 
8.   Ice Dogs (2) (3-0-1).  Tied Gulls (2); Beat GSE(1) 2-0, OC 9-0, and Wave 2-0.  Not sure what the purpose of the Wave match-up would have been unless it was to fill the 8th spot spot in Flight 1.  Would like to know if they rolled lines or relied on their top players.


 9.   Ducks (2) (1-3). Lost to GSE (2) 5-3, Empire 1-0, and ID(1) 3-0;  beat Sharks 1 (3-1).  Didn’t catch the Sharks (1) game – did D2 dominate but not reflected in score? Last match up does not look like one you would give a team that was being considered for Flight 1.  I had a hard time choosing between Wave and D2.  D2 play a more team oriented and tougher game.


10.  Wave (1-2-1).  Tied  Ducks (1); beat PML 5-1; Lost to B’Hawks 3-2 and ID(2) 2-0.  Losses to B’Hawks and ID(2) could be the dividing line. 

 
 

Looking at the final day match ups I think the only games they were really looking at were the first two.

JS1 vs JD2 and GSE1 vs Gulls2

The rest were clearly all Flight 1 vs Flight 1 and Flight 2 vs Flight 2 match ups.

Based on the results, it should be JD2 and Gulls2 who won their way into Flight 1.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Rocket91 on September 04, 2018, 11:29:48 AM

Kings2 vs Blackhawks 3-2
Flyers vs Reign 0-4
Kings1 vs Ice Dogs1 1-2
Maple Leafs vs OC 2-2
Ducks1 vs Wave 1-1
Gulls2 vs Ice Dogs2  ?
GSE1 vs Empire 1-2
Gulls1 vs Sharks1 3-1
Ducks2 vs GSE2 3-5
Sharks2 vs Blackhawks 1-9

Reign vs Ice Dogs1 1-3
Sharks1 vs Kings1 0-7
Ducks2 vs Empire 0-1
Gulls1 vs Ducks1 1-2
OC vs Flyers ?
GSE1 vs Ice Dogs2 0-2
GSE2 vs Gulls2 ?
Wave vs Maple Leafs 5-1
Kings2 vs Sharks2 1-0
Ducks1 vs Sharks1 5-1
Kings1 vs GSE1 5-0
Empire vs Reign 4-2
Gulls1 vs Kings2 6-1
Wave vs Blackhawks 2-3
Ice Dogs1 vs Ducks2 3-0
Ice Dogs2 vs OC ?
Maple Leafs VS Gulls2 ?
Flyers vs Sharks2 2-3
GSE2 vs Blackhawks 5-3

Sharks1 vs Ducks2 1-3
GSE1 vs Gulls2 1-2
Reign vs Maple Leafs ?
Kings1 vs Gulls1 2-2
Empire vs GSE2 1-2
Sharks2 vs OC 1-0
Ice Dogs1 vs Ducks1 2-1
Kings2 vs Flyers ?
Wave vs Ice Dogs2 0-2
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: TheFourthA on September 04, 2018, 11:31:17 AM
What were the scores in the Gulls2 games?


Sharks 1 and GSE 1 took bad losses against Kings1; don’t think that a 4th game match up with either of them is a good sign.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: give it a rip on September 04, 2018, 01:42:52 PM
What were the scores in the Gulls2 games?


Sharks 1 and GSE 1 took bad losses against Kings1; don’t think that a 4th game match up with either of them is a good sign.

I don't know how even the play was, but I heard Gull2-ID2 was a tie, GSE2-Gulls2 was a one goal win for GSE2.

I think 4 teams were on the bubble (if they are going with 10 teams flight 1) and they had them playoff in the first 2 games yesterday.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: PuckMonster on September 04, 2018, 03:41:37 PM
What were the scores in the Gulls2 games?


Sharks 1 and GSE 1 took bad losses against Kings1; don’t think that a 4th game match up with either of them is a good sign.

I don't know how even the play was, but I heard Gull2-ID2 was a tie, GSE2-Gulls2 was a one goal win for GSE2.

I think 4 teams were on the bubble (if they are going with 10 teams flight 1) and they had them playoff in the first 2 games yesterday.


Gulls 2 -GSE2 was not as close as it sounds.  The shots on goal was 22 to 3 in favor of GSE2.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: overHEATed on September 04, 2018, 10:27:47 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but did the Norcal teams (GSE1&2, Sharks1&2 and Blackhawks) combine for a total of 5-6 wins out of 20 games? And most wins coming way of GSE2 beating predestined flight 2 teams and close games at that?!
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 6607 on September 05, 2018, 03:57:10 PM
Any word on when flights will be released or if we are waiting for teams to play prove me games?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Rocket91 on September 05, 2018, 05:50:25 PM
Sharks2 will have a prove me game vs Vacaville Jets 12A this Saturday.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: PuckMonster on September 05, 2018, 07:49:09 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but did the Norcal teams (GSE1&2, Sharks1&2 and Blackhawks) combine for a total of 5-6 wins out of 20 games? And most wins coming way of GSE2 beating predestined flight 2 teams and close games at that?!


It looks like the Kings and one other team will be flight 1 while the rest will be in flight 2. 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: HockeyGuy-99 on September 06, 2018, 08:25:08 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but did the Norcal teams (GSE1&2, Sharks1&2 and Blackhawks) combine for a total of 5-6 wins out of 20 games? And most wins coming way of GSE2 beating predestined flight 2 teams and close games at that?!


It looks like the Kings and one other team will be flight 1 while the rest will be in flight 2.
You can say their name.  We don't need to treat them like an evil wizard from a Harry Potter book because they walked out of this weekend as the clear front runner from a tiny club.  Unless I misinterpreted you and you are referring to the 08' Kings as being a flight 1 team.  They are not.  Plus, they've already shifted their focus to AAA next year.   

I agree teams 3-20 are going to have difficult days ahead when they play #1 and #2 as there is a clear drop off imo.  If you have any hope of winning the league and your name is not Ice Dogs (Riley) or Kings (Calder) I believe you need to hope you are labeled Flight 2.   At least you'll have a carrot to chase... I'll toss GSE2 in there too because unlike CAHA I do feel that teams can improve and tend to be better in February than September 1.   

Maybe 1 AA team per club?  Or so these clubs can keep charging all of us AA money make a new division called AA advanced and limit it to 1 team per club so we don't water these teams down between two teams.  It may even help us eliminate these awful jamborees.   
       
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Bear71 on September 06, 2018, 09:12:14 AM


It looks like the Kings and one other team will be flight 1 while the rest will be in flight 2.

You can say their name.  We don't need to treat them like an evil wizard from a Harry Potter book because they walked out of this weekend as the clear front runner from a tiny club.  Unless I misinterpreted you and you are referring to the 08' Kings as being a flight 1 team.  They are not.  Plus, they've already shifted their focus to AAA next year.   
.   
       
Clear front runners?  Not sure a team that only puts 3-1 and 3-0 Jamboree "wins" against two significantly weaker teams can be considered a "clear front runner".  At this point, I wouldn't label any team as being far and away better than anyone.  Before anyone comes back with the "they had goals waved off" or other excuses that every single team can point to if they squint hard enough, remember that it is early September, not late January.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: alfirst on September 06, 2018, 09:43:26 AM
 FYI: OC will have "prove" game today vs Goldrush1 PWA
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Mcp04 on September 06, 2018, 09:58:28 AM
Prove what?  The Goldrush team lost to an all 08 team in this past weekends semi final tournament game
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: HockeyGuy-99 on September 06, 2018, 10:02:43 AM
Prove what?  The Goldrush team lost to an all 08 team in this past weekends semi final tournament game
It has nothing to do with Goldrush.  If OC can't beat a team that was losing to 08' PeeWee A's they shouldn't be AA.  This is not to determine if Goldrush should move up. 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Rocket91 on September 06, 2018, 10:57:47 AM

Flight1
ICE Dogs1
Kings1
GSE2
Ducks1
Gulls1
Empire
Ducks2
Blackhawks


Flight2
Ice Dogs2
Wave
Gulls2
Reign
GSE1
Sharks1
Maple Leafs
Kings2


A
Sharks2
OC
Flyers
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: PuckMonster on September 06, 2018, 11:08:58 AM
Flight 1
ID 1
Kings 1


Flight 2
GSE1
GSE2
Ducks1
Gulls1
Empire
Ducks2
Maple Leafs
Kings2
Reign


A
Anything Sharks
Blackhawks
OC
Flyers
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: alfirst on September 06, 2018, 11:10:32 AM
Yep - nothing to do with Goldrush, all to do with OC.


And that will be other Goldrush team, not the one losing to Ducks-08. By the way - that one lost in shootouts only and 08 Ducks is a pretty solid team, played Squirt A last year, made some noise in play-offs and have same core players while Goldrush teams (both) are all new and gathered from different clubs and different levels (Squirt BB, PW B/BB as well)
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: NotfromSoCal on September 06, 2018, 05:31:27 PM
Flight 1
ID 1
Kings 1


Flight 2
GSE1
GSE2
Ducks1
Gulls1
Empire
Ducks2
Maple Leafs
Kings2
Reign


A
Anything Sharks
Blackhawks
OCyear
Flyers


Why are you leaving the Ice Dogs in Flight 1?  It sounds to me like the Kings have already won the championship.  I mean they looked like men against boys, NOT.  All the talk about the small point spreads is nonsense.  With a two period game, running clock, oh and the SoCal refs having the puck in their hand more than it was on the ice it means nothing.  The right teams mostly won but in a "real" game these point spreads grow very quickly.  I didn't see anything special when I watched the Kings 1 play last weekend.  The teams that were supposed to win, GSE2, Ice Dogs, Kings 1(except for that one game) did what they had to do to get into flight 1.  Everyone else is on the bubble and about to fall like Humpty back in the day.  There are a lot of teams here that shouldn't be but I am sure very few will be dropped to "A".  As for the Anything Sharks, is that because "Anything" other than being relegated to A is an improvement over last year?  Bahahaha
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Kangaroo Jack on September 06, 2018, 07:55:59 PM

Easy, comrade! Your Ice Mutt love is getting on the furniture!  Gross.  That’ll take an extra strength steam cleaner to get out.  And besides, didn’t I tell you how things work here?  Me and my fine friends at CAHA tell YOU how it is… and you accept it! 


So if you’re venturing into the deep end with accusations and innuendo about the Freedom Fighters of El Segundo… you better come with more than a “not joke.” 


And watch the tone, NoSoCal… we’ve had your wretched litter on our radar before… this type of hockey pride or hubris will NOT be tolerated.  So start toeing the line or the Vacaville Dream-Crusher will neuter your wild pack like we did the Riptide and the West Valley Wolves.  Never heard of those clubs?  Exactly. 


Thin ice, Mutts, thin ice. 


Respectfully,
Kangaroo Jack
Sr. Vice President of Shenanigans & Tomfoolery
Director of the OC Ghost Rostering & Russian Orphan Outreach Program
Proctor for the Small Club Suppression Initiative
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: ScottyB#22 on September 07, 2018, 06:39:45 AM
How did the "prove me" game go last night?
OC vrs Goldrush?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: In The Crease on September 07, 2018, 08:05:17 AM
How did the "prove me" game go last night?
OC vrs Goldrush?


OC 3 Goldrush 1


Just a note, for the jamboree they were missing one of top scorers (2 broken arms) and one of best skaters (ankle).  Still did well against Maple Leafs (W 2-0), but really struggled against Ice Dogs.  For GR game, I believe skater was back, but arms are still 4 plus weeks out.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: LetsGoRangers on September 07, 2018, 10:37:43 AM
So I am clear, are we saying that a 3-1 win against a PWA team was a positive or negative?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Bear71 on September 07, 2018, 10:50:38 AM
So I am clear, are we saying that a 3-1 win against a PWA team was a positive or negative?


Ask Ice Dogs 1, as they have experience with their 3-1 win vs. Reign over the weekend.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: lcadad on September 07, 2018, 02:22:44 PM
This is my conclusion about evaluation based on last year's PWAA:


1.  Clubs are asked in advance to evaluate whether a team expects to be Flight1 or Flight2.  While politics might easily discount a self-assessment, if your club was to have self-evaluated your team as "Flight2" it is very hard to overcome that.


2. There is an internal list with pre-jamboree rankings.  This year it was especially evident based on the first round of games, as to whether you were expected to be Flight1 or Flight2, as they had most of the games be "same flight" contests.


3.  In the 3rd game, teams that looked like they might be somewhere between Flight1 & 2 were given games to assess that.


4. The *only* way you seem to get points in the Jamboree that might move the evaluation needle upwards, is if you *upset* a team that you were not expected to beat.  Close losses, or loss even with fairly even Shots on goal don't seem to matter.  If you didn't notice any evaluators watching a game, most likely that is because the game was essentially perfunctory.  There were only so many evaluators, and from what I saw, their interest level is limited.


5. Politics.  The big clubs get the benefit of the doubt, other clubs don't.




Best of luck to you all, and remember, that PW is just a year or 2 in the long journey of youth hockey.  Be sure to provide feedback to your club in regards to your experiences and assessment.  All the clubs are able to vote on these rule changes and programs.  If you feel they are broken, you have to let the club know, specifically and perhaps in writing.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: ScottyB#22 on September 07, 2018, 04:16:42 PM
So I am clear, are we saying that a 3-1 win against a PWA team was a positive or negative?


I would say, a positive. From pre-season chatter...GR was going to be a AA team.....then changed thier mind to single A, meaning they could be a “high A” team??


I wonder what shots on goal was....?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: lcadad on September 07, 2018, 05:02:13 PM
Agree with ScottyB on this.  The "prove me" games are exactly that -- proving that a team is better than a top level A team  While that still might leave the team at the bottom of AA readiness, it at least establishes that the team has a legitimate case to be made for wanting to remain at AA even if that means it will be tough sledding along the way. 

There is almost always some fluidity between teams at the top/bottom of a Level from AAA all the way to B, and especially at PW where there are more players and teams than at any other age group.  Some of the top PWA teams historically have been able to knock off lower AA teams in tournaments showing that they could have played in AA had they chosen to. 

This is not a phenomenon unique to PWAA.  Last season, the  top BantamAA team (03) (https://myhockeyrankings.com/team_info.php?y=2017&t=2447) would have easily finished in top 50 AAA teams nationally.  Certainly that team was the exception, but it came via reaction to the rules and overall state of the California hockey system at present.   
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: hockeypop5792 on September 07, 2018, 07:43:47 PM
GR 1 team is indeed NOT a strong A team and a 2 goal win over GR only proves that OC PWAA team is even mediocre if they play A.  Why would parents wanna pay extra to scrape the bottom of PWAA anyway? Any coach pushing a struggling team to play out of their league should be suspect.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: alfirst on September 07, 2018, 11:10:41 PM
Totally agree with the last post - Goldrush 1 is 07 team made of mostly last year Squirt BB players.
Goldrush 2 is 06s and stronger as more players already had PW experience.


GR flirted with AA idea only for a little while  - when they expected/wished better talent to come to clinics etc.etc. Did not get the players they wanted and quickly settled for 2 PWA teams split predominantly by age. 


OC did look better for the most part of the game but GR1 just started to figure out lines etc. as it's essentially a new team
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 6607 on September 08, 2018, 12:58:59 PM
Don’t worry Bear,  we understand why you prefer to talk about the Ice Dogs’ game with the Reign rather than the Kings’ game with the Ice Dogs (or the Kings’ game with the Gulls 1 for that matter).  Was losing to and tying the only Flight 1 teams your Kings faced a positive or a negative experience?  As for the Dogs’ game with Reign, no one feels the need to make “excuses.”   Maybe it is because they were actually at the game or maybe it is because they went 4-0 and, well, lets face it, teams that run the table rarely feel the need to make "excuses."  Let me give you a textbook  example of an excuse often run out at this time of the season:  “It is early September, not late January.”   Sound familiar?  Bet you didn’t happen to run that one by ‘Roo who, when he isn’t trolling on the AA thread, is busy on the AAA thread gloating over Kings AAA’s “early September” wins over the Ducks.   Anyway, Bear, your team accomplished what 19 teams went to Valencia to do, they just didn’t give you bragging rights.  Congrats on getting the job done at the Jamboree, and maybe, just maybe, be happy that it looks like there should be a number of teams that can push each other to get better each week.  Maybe then one or more of these teams will become something special in late January... 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Bear71 on September 08, 2018, 01:51:55 PM
You got me.  Ice Dogs clearly are the front runners now that you have set me straight.  Next time, perhaps your goalie won’t get the knob of his stick on that shot and a different outcome will occur.  See you in October.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Rocket91 on September 08, 2018, 07:52:53 PM
Vacaville Jets A beat Sharks AA(2).  3-2
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: PuckMonster on September 08, 2018, 09:30:28 PM
Vacaville Jets A beat Sharks AA(2).  3-2


I guess I was wrong.  Sounds like the Sharks are once again contenders.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: overHEATed on September 08, 2018, 10:14:42 PM
Vacaville Jets A beat Sharks AA(2).  3-2
SHOCKER! Both Sharks teams are mid-lower level PWA teams.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Carl Henry on September 09, 2018, 04:20:24 PM
Any other scores beside Duck1 5-3 over Kings 2
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 6607 on September 09, 2018, 04:39:00 PM
Dogs 1 over Ducks 2, 4-1 I think.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Carl Henry on September 09, 2018, 07:39:00 PM
6607, how did everyone’s favor Bear71 team do? He’s been really quiet today.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: ScottyB#22 on September 09, 2018, 11:09:31 PM
Any other scores beside Duck1 5-3 over Kings 2

Empire 4 over Maple Leafs 3
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 6607 on September 10, 2018, 05:44:53 AM
Looks like SCAHA AA scores will be reported over the SCAHA website this year once managers enter their data...
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Hockey05 on September 10, 2018, 06:39:40 AM
SCAHA doesn’t enter tier scores. 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Hockeymomx on September 10, 2018, 08:01:57 AM
 SCAHA has tier II scores from over the weekend posted on their website.  They get posted after the home team’s manager inputs them.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Rats13 on September 10, 2018, 11:17:09 AM
SCAHA has tier II scores from over the weekend posted on their website.  They get posted after the home team’s manager inputs them.
It will be interesting if they stay posted or not.  Last year the scores were not posted.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Bear71 on September 10, 2018, 11:28:36 AM
There's nothing like Vacaville in February, so for those who are fortunate enough, CAHA has us going there at the beginning of the month and at the end for playdowns.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: hockeyfan2008 on September 12, 2018, 02:27:40 PM
our OCHC team played Jr Kings 2 on Sunday in one of those "show me" games.

Jr Kings won 10-0.  We weren't even competitive with them as despite their age(I think lots of those kids are 08s) its a talented team.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: NotfromSoCal on September 12, 2018, 05:15:02 PM
Maybe OCHC is just REALLY bad if they can’t compete with a squirt team.  Might be time to try tennis!  Team sports aren’t for everyone.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 6607 on September 12, 2018, 06:43:56 PM
Over on the Bantam thread they are saying Bantam flights have been released.  Anyone hear anything for Pee Wee?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: ScottyB#22 on September 12, 2018, 07:04:51 PM
Here is what has been communicated to our team...

The 12AA flight determinations have been made by the
evaluation committee, as follows and in Alpha order...

Flight 1
Blackhawks
Empire
GSE 2
Jr Ducks (1)
Jr Gulls (1)
Jr Ice Dogs (1)
Jr Ice Dogs (2)
Jr Kings (1)
Wave

Flight 2
GSE 1
Jr Ducks (2)
Jr Gulls (2)
Jr Kings (2)
Jr Reign
Jr Sharks (1)
Maple Leafs
OCHC

*edited to correct GSE 1 in Flight 2, I had a typo the first time. Sorry!
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: JustAnotherHockeyParent on September 12, 2018, 07:21:29 PM
What happened to Sharks 2... and Jr. Flyers???
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: ScottyB#22 on September 12, 2018, 07:31:59 PM
Not sure...they weren’t on the lists that were communicated to our team.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: NotfromSoCal on September 12, 2018, 07:45:10 PM
I think the Sharks 2 got moved to Squirt BB where they might be competitive.    Did you not watch any of the games at the jamboree?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Rocket91 on September 12, 2018, 08:23:53 PM
Sharks2 beat OC at the jamboree. 1-0
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: NotfromSoCal on September 12, 2018, 08:40:26 PM
OC just lost 10-0 to a team of ‘08 players.  They are both terrrrble as Charles Barkley would say.  They gave Sharks benefit of a prove me game and they lost to Vacaville A.  Enough is enough already.  It’s tier hockey, not everyone gets a trophy.  Probably several others that should have lost an A. 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Disco Dan on September 12, 2018, 08:53:10 PM
OC just lost 10-0 to a team of ‘08 players.  They are both terrrrble as Charles Barkley would say.  They gave Sharks benefit of a prove me game and they lost to Vacaville A.  Enough is enough already.  It’s tier hockey, not everyone gets a trophy.  Probably several others that should have lost an A.


Considering Kings 2 beat the Blackhawks 3-2 in an even game, then outplayed the much larger Sharks in what should have been a worse beating than 1-0, and lost 5-3 to Runtso Ducks in an even game, I'm not certain how one can claim Kings 2 are a squirt team.  Clearly they are beyond that.  The win over OC also proves PWA is not the right fit.  From my view, CAHA got the Flights correct based on what I saw in Valencia.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: NotfromSoCal on September 12, 2018, 09:09:54 PM
I can’t argue that Kings 2 belong where they are.  My point is OC doesn’t and nobody should be surprised Sharks 2 disappeared.  Rocketman91 was trying to make some kind of a point that Sharks 2 beat OC 1-0 so for some reason belong in AA.  All that game proved is that OC is just as bad or worse than the Sharks.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Disco Dan on September 12, 2018, 09:22:54 PM
I can’t argue that Kings 2 belong where they are.  My point is OC doesn’t and nobody should be surprised Sharks 2 disappeared.  Rocketman91 was trying to make some kind of a point that Sharks 2 beat OC 1-0 so for some reason belong in AA.  All that game proved that OC is just as bad or worse than the Sharks.


I agree completely.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Go Kings_26 on September 13, 2018, 08:00:44 AM
How did Blackhawks make flight 1?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: keepdrinkinthekoolaid on September 13, 2018, 10:08:04 AM

How did Blackhawks make flight 1?

Either

a) geographical location in California
OR
b) possibly club history and reputation
From their websites about us page: "For 48 years, the Santa Clara Blackhawks have been a non-profit hockey club fielding competitive teams at the B, A, and Tier II (AA) levels"


Are CONGRATULATIONS in order?  The Valencia "eyetest" as well as looking at results of past scrimmages this alleged competitive team has a long season ahead of them.  Also, this club did place #8 in Flt 1 last year for the PlayDowns, ahead of Flt 1 #9-GSE2 & #10-Jr Ducks2 BUT only to lose to the Flt II #1 - Valencia Flyers.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: TheFourthA on September 13, 2018, 01:23:03 PM
Perhaps CAHA felt that the B'Hawks were demonstrably better than the 8 teams they selected for Flight 2?  I am not a big fan of the Jamboree (in part because it places too great a premium on CAHA getting the match-ups for the two pre-set rounds right), but coming out of the Jamboree I had the B'hawks at 7, even if they were not playing what I thought of as an AA style of hockey.

At the time, I thought there was a noticeable gap between the B'hawks and the top 6 teams, but that the Wave or D2 were more likely to be a bubble team in a larger Flight 1. After last weekend's games, I suspect that  the differences in the teams from top to bottom might be smaller than I thought last week and that the dividing point may be between 4 and 5.

As an aside, I think K2 and D2 are both very interesting teams. I like their upside and dislike a system where one of them is necessarily eliminated from the playoffs before a single regular season game has been played. 



 

 

Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: CanAmWest on September 13, 2018, 02:39:29 PM
If everyone is going to fashion opinion at least report factual data.  OC did not play Jr. Kings as so don’t know where that post came from?  They had a play-in against GoldRush - won 3-1 and for most part controlled game.  Past weekend played Jr. Reign - 2-2 tie and again for most part controlled game.   


Given time all teams will improve during the year, some faster than others.  Don’t already go crowning a champion unless the Jr. Kings and Jr. Ducks loyalists insist on jabs at each other. 


This group of armchair general managers would suggest the Toronto Marlies would be the logical choice to replace the lowly Sabres or Senators the way they offer their expertise. 


Keep the opinions (because that’s all they are) flowing because these comments are entertaining to read, great banter back and forth but just let the kids play.   8)
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: White Skates on September 13, 2018, 04:20:37 PM
OC did indeed play Kings—Kings2
I watched the game?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: hockeyfan2008 on September 13, 2018, 04:41:53 PM
CanAmWest is just not telling the truth.

I have a son on OCHC.   We played the Kings 2 on Sunday at Lakewood(Rink B).   We lost 10-0.   Not sure what part of that is hard to grasp
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: JustAnotherHockeyParent on September 13, 2018, 05:50:42 PM
Did OCHC PW A or OCHC PW AA play Kings 2?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: CanAmWest on September 13, 2018, 06:25:52 PM
It wasn’t OC’s PWAA.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: In The Crease on September 13, 2018, 08:23:08 PM
CanAmWest is just not telling the truth.

I have a son on OCHC.   We played the Kings 2 on Sunday at Lakewood(Rink B).   We lost 10-0.   Not sure what part of that is hard to grasp


What is hard to grasp is that you can't seem to understand you are not on the AA team.  The Kings2 played your "A" team to prove they should stay up in AA.  Your posting completely miscommunicated and misrepresented teams. 

Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: TheFourthA on September 14, 2018, 06:14:27 AM
I guess it’s a moot point, but would a Kings parent be kind enough to confirm that K2 was asked to play a prove me game against OC PWA?  Their match ups at the Jamboree were really odd:  Flight 1 teams and teams facing relegation. 


Having watched them play the Blackhawks and Ducks 1, they looked more like a bubble flight 1 team than a candidate for relegation.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Disco Dan on September 14, 2018, 09:16:46 AM
I guess it’s a moot point, but would a Kings parent be kind enough to confirm that K2 was asked to play a prove me game against OC PWA?  Their match ups at the Jamboree were really odd:  Flight 1 teams and teams facing relegation. 
Having watched them play the Blackhawks and Ducks 1, they looked more like a bubble flight 1 team than a candidate for relegation.


We played OCHC PWA.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: hockeyfan2008 on September 14, 2018, 02:27:36 PM
Just clearing up the falsehood that was being posted by Can Am West.  Never ever said we were a PW AA team.  Said we were playing in a "show me" game against the Kings 2 and got beat 10-0.

No need to be so hostile inthecrease.  Its ok to be wrong like you were.  Just own it and move on
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: HockeyGuy-99 on September 14, 2018, 03:28:38 PM
Just clearing up the falsehood that was being posted by Can Am West.  Never ever said we were a PW AA team.  Said we were playing in a "show me" game against the Kings 2 and got beat 10-0.

No need to be so hostile inthecrease.  Its ok to be wrong like you were.  Just own it and move on
Inthecrease was not wrong.  This is a AA thread and it just so happens that the AA team from OCHC was playing prove me games as well.  The surprise is probably that the kings 2 had to have prove me game too against OCHC A.  Not at one point did you imply you were an A team.  Your clubs AA team has their backs against the ropes and is in for a long season.  But the good news is they do get to walk around the rink and say they are AA now.  Kings 2 is next years AAA minor, too much money involved to send them down. 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: hockeyfan2008 on September 15, 2018, 08:40:54 AM
Inthecrease was totally wrong.  It happens so not a big deal.  He probably wasn't aware of the "show me" game that Sunday so just looked out of the loop with his comments.  Can't expect to know everything, but when a parent from the OCHC team(me) tells you they played a game against Kings2, its probably best just to take that at face value and not double down on some dumb comment about how the game never happened.
Who knows why CAHA asked for that game to be played.  That is for greater minds than I.  But I certainly can tell when a game actually occurs.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: JustAnotherHockeyParent on September 16, 2018, 03:03:46 PM
Scores from today???


Jr. Ducks 2 beat Jr. Flyers 5-4... Ducks 2 scored in last minute of game to break 4-4 tie and get the win.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: ScottyB#22 on September 16, 2018, 11:17:09 PM
Empire beat Jr Reign 5-0
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: TheFourthA on September 17, 2018, 11:29:32 AM
Anyone know the score in the Wave/Ducks 1 game?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Carl Henry on September 17, 2018, 12:23:42 PM
Ducks 1 lost 3-4 to the Wave 1
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: alfirst on September 17, 2018, 01:06:56 PM
How about them ID2 - crushing everybody with double digits scores - contender for 1st?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: LetsGoRangers on September 17, 2018, 01:28:09 PM
How about them ID2 - crushing everybody with double digits scores - contender for 1st?
1st in flight 2? Congrats! Nothing like beating up on teams that should be playing PWA to inflate egos.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: alfirst on September 17, 2018, 02:22:24 PM
Well, were not they place by sbd here in Flight I?
And weren't Kings 2 considered OK team? They have some best players from former Flyers SqA + core group from Kings Sq A
And double digits difference still speaks for itself - regular season will tell, of course,,,
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Daddy Issues Curly on September 17, 2018, 03:35:08 PM
Ducks 1 lost 3-4 to the Wave 1


D1 tied D2 (tier 2) and lost to Wave this weekend.  Im sure there are some bitter parents on a already bitter parent team.  Let the finger pointing begin...
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Deuce on September 18, 2018, 07:13:54 AM
How about them ID2 - crushing everybody with double digits scores - contender for 1st?
1st in flight 2? Congrats! Nothing like beating up on teams that should be playing PWA to inflate egos.


Aren't ID2 in flight 1?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: alfirst on September 18, 2018, 09:12:50 AM
Yep, and that's the only club this season with 2 teams in Flight I.
Would all the teams from Flight I beat 10-1, 11-1 teams from Flight II though? Is the difference that high?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: TheFourthA on September 19, 2018, 09:02:48 AM
When alfirst says that ID2 is "crushing everybody,"  it really just means that they crushed G2 and K2 in their last two games.  Those 2 games are a very small and selective sample; didn't ID2 tie D2 in a scrimmage and tie G2 at the Jamboree?  Haven't they given up an average of over 30 SOG in their three reported games against D2, G2 and K2?  I wonder how they will match up against Kings 1 and Gulls 1 which are not going to allow a lot of breakways or odd man rushes, and who understand gap control?  How do they match up against GSE2 which would probably be more than happy to see who wins a run and gun game against ID2 (I suspect that would be a very entertaining game to watch)?

Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: alfirst on September 19, 2018, 09:56:03 AM
They also did crush OC team in Jamboree - so 3 "crushes" in last 4 or 5 games. But, yes - they did have ties and yes, Flight I will be way more challenging, They are not to blame though that they received opponents they got, right? And I am not sure about G2 but K2 is a pretty strong team by whom core group  of ID2 last year on SQA level were crushed couple of times. This year ID2 got some new "star" players and things changed.
 
On a separate note - was never believer on SOG stat, especially on kids level. Crossbar does not count as SOG, e.g. and some off the board "dumping" into the net would. Some not really goal chance shots into the chest of a goalie is SOG while "just missed" shots could me way more dangerous. So - just allowing a shot is not necessarily a killer - imho.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: TheFourthA on September 19, 2018, 10:51:47 AM
Don't get me wrong.  Not blaming ID2 for their schedule, but adding OC to the list of low Flight 2 teams that ID2 crushed does not tell me anything that I don't know about ID2: their game is perfectly suited to demolishing very weak opponents.  Is this teaching them how to play against older, bigger teams that have move passed the run and gun approach?  How will their game play against quality opponents (and admittedly it is anyone's guess so far how few of those there are).  I am not saying that they won't be able to do that, just that they have not been tested by any team that I think is a true contender to make the state playoffs, and won't be until at least Valencia...

Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: alfirst on September 19, 2018, 12:34:15 PM
That's obviously the case to be seen - but as of now still pretty impressive. Not all contenders from Flight I are posting such results
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: HockeyGuy-99 on September 19, 2018, 01:28:21 PM
I thought ID1 was the strong team and ID2 was fringe.  Who's the stronger team?  Are they both the top of the PeeWee AA division, if so how did that happen?  Kings and Ducks must be having hot flashes thinking about that little club fielding two teams better than theirs.  They play out of the same rink, what are the results of their scrimmages together?  ID1 is the team that beat Kings 1 right?  Is ID2 able to beat that Kings 1 team as well?  I thought ID1 and Kings 1 were on an island by themselves.       


Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Ethicka on September 19, 2018, 03:38:37 PM
Per the SCAHA Site


Gulls #1 VS Maple Leafs
   8                   1


Ducks #2  VS  Flyers
   5                  4


Gulls #2   VS   Ice Dogs #1
     0                      5


Reign    VS    Empire HC
    0                     5


Ducks #1   VS   Wave
   3                      4


Kings #2     VS   Ice Dogs #2
    1                         11



Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: NotfromSoCal on September 19, 2018, 05:03:42 PM
So it looks like ID2 is in fact better than ID1, look at those scores.   Ducks 2 won and Ducks 1 lost so it seems they are in the wrong flights.  Gulls 1 are clearly a front runner as well.  These scores really tell a different story than what everyone was stating.  I wonder how this is affected by the teams from that other state of NorCal.  Can’t wait to spend February sleeping in our own beds!
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Go Kings_26 on September 19, 2018, 10:27:11 PM
Hockey Guy - it’s actually not surprising about ID fielding stronger teams. Programs that don’t carry AAA teams tend to have stronger AA teams as kids get older.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Deuce on September 20, 2018, 08:54:46 AM
Hockey Guy - it’s actually not surprising about ID fielding stronger teams. Programs that don’t carry AAA teams tend to have stronger AA teams as kids get older.


Aren't the only AAA teams in the state from the Kings, Ducks and Sharks?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: alfirst on September 20, 2018, 09:23:25 AM
Hockey Guy - it’s actually not surprising about ID fielding stronger teams. Programs that don’t carry AAA teams tend to have stronger AA teams as kids get older.


Aren't the only AAA teams in the state from the Kings, Ducks and Sharks?


Yep -  that's the point. Then according to that logic ALL other clubs should be golden in AA. 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Ethicka on September 20, 2018, 09:41:55 AM

I personally think you need to know more information that just the score to make a judgement on any team.
Here is more information from the SCAHA web site. OK talk amongst yourselves.

Team   Score SOG PM   Other
Gulls 1   8    55      6   
M Leafs   1   12    2   

Ducks 2   5   24    10   
Flyers    4   26   18   

IDogs 1   5   28    21    1 GMC
Gulls 2   0   10   14   

Empire    5   23    8   
Jr. Reign   0   14   2   

Wave   4   31    19    1 GMC
Ducks 1   3   26   17   1 GMC

IDogs 2   11   43    12   
Kings 2   1   22   6   

Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Bear71 on September 20, 2018, 10:11:08 AM

I personally think you need to know more information that just the score to make a judgement on any team.
Here is more information from the SCAHA web site. OK talk amongst yourselves.

Team   Score SOG PM   Other
Gulls 1   8    55      6   
M Leafs   1   12    2   

Ducks 2   5   24    10   
Flyers    4   26   18   

IDogs 1   5   28    21    1 GMC
Gulls 2   0   10   14   

Empire    5   23    8   
Jr. Reign   0   14   2   

Wave   4   31    19    1 GMC
Ducks 1   3   26   17   1 GMC

IDogs 2   11   43    12   
Kings 2   1   22   6   


You forgot the truest indicator used to judge teams: gallons of alcohol consumed by the parents before the game.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 2 Cups in LA on September 20, 2018, 11:22:20 AM
Its too early in the 18/19 season to give ID2 so much credit.    ID1 roster is stronger & more experienced.   Once ID2 starts playing teams with players that are not 08's or should be playing in PWA?  Then reality will set in.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: alfirst on September 20, 2018, 11:43:11 AM
True,


but they do have at least couple of players (and the better ones) who played Flight I previous season
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: JustAnotherHockeyParent on September 23, 2018, 04:00:28 PM
Any scores to report from today's action? (It has been too quiet in here...)
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: JustAnotherHockeyParent on September 23, 2018, 05:10:41 PM
Just heard Kings 2 beat Jr. Flyers by the score of 4-3. Jr. Flyers also lost to Jr. Ducks 2 just last week by the score of 5-4 (where Jr. Ducks were down 4-3 but came back to win with less than 1 minute left in the game (while on a power play). Jr. Flyers got dropped from PW AA without any "prove me" games... premature decision by CAHA???
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Daddy Issues Curly on September 23, 2018, 06:03:21 PM
Heard ID 2 lost 4-3 to Wave

Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 6607 on September 24, 2018, 02:31:22 PM
That’s two Flight 1 wins for the Wave in the past two weeks.  Looks like they are figuring it out.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 6607 on September 25, 2018, 02:27:40 PM
So anyone know what the score in the OC/ Ducks 1 game was?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Hockeymomx on September 25, 2018, 03:31:45 PM
JD1 3 OCHC 1.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: CahaMama on September 26, 2018, 10:43:44 AM
You can always subscribe to livebarn.com too. It's $15 (more or less) a month and you can watch games at 34 rinks in CA and a bunch more across the country. My kid is a midget away at prep school, so this works pretty great for our family.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: PuckMonster on September 26, 2018, 11:18:14 AM
Here is what has been communicated to our team...

The 12AA flight determinations have been made by the
evaluation committee, as follows and in Alpha order...

Flight 1
Blackhawks
Empire
GSE 2
Jr Ducks (1)
Jr Gulls (1)
Jr Ice Dogs (1)
Jr Ice Dogs (2)
Jr Kings (1)
Wave

Flight 2
GSE 1
Jr Ducks (2)
Jr Gulls (2)
Jr Kings (2)
Jr Reign
Jr Sharks (1)
Maple Leafs
OCHC
Top 15 in the Nation features 3 California Teams.  Not sure why the Gulls are not here other than they do not post their scores.

LA Jr Kings (#1) AA (https://www.jrkingshockey.com/page/show/4496726?subseason=551972&tab=content)
Anaheim Ice Dogs (#1) AA
Highland Park Falcons (CSDHL) 06 AA (https://www.falconshockey.org/page/show/4323651-peewee-major-fall-2018-)
Tampa Scorpions AA
South Florida Hockey Academy 06 AA
Denver U Jr Pioneers AA
South Hills Panthers (#1) 06 AA (https://www.shaha.org/page/show/1949440-kovac-2018-2019-)
Chicago Bulldogs (CSDHL) 06 AA (https://www.chicagobulldoghockey.com/page/show/4239274-peewee-06-cs-2018-19-)
Steel City Ice Renegades (#1) AAAY (http://nss.goalline.ca/team_schedule.php?team_id=26210&league_id=1191&lang=1)
NorthStars 06 AAA (http://nss.goalline.ca/team_schedule.php?team_id=26210&league_id=1191&lang=1)
Montgomery Blue Devils (Blue) AA
Middlesex Islanders (T1-Black-East) 06 AAA (http://www.islandershockeyclub.com/men)
Long Island Rebels 06 AA
Woodbridge Wolfpack 06 AA
Golden State Elite Eagles (#2) AA


Let the complaining begin
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: SDhockeydad07 on September 26, 2018, 11:52:03 AM
Gulls #1 hasn't shown up because they don't have 5 recorded game scores yet.  Once they do, *POOF* they show up in the rankings.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: NotfromSoCal on September 26, 2018, 05:18:51 PM
Is that what happens to Gulls?  They go *POOF*.  Is that like before they POOP, they POOF?  Or do they literally go POOF?  Sounds kind of nasty either way!  BTW, does anyone know what the white stuff is in sea   Gull poop?


Wait for it...


Wait for it...


It's just more POOP!
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: HockeyGuy-99 on September 28, 2018, 03:16:14 PM
How does Gulls one not have 5 games recorded yet?  Are they trying to be selective in what they record or are they not playing any games?  Jamboree weekend involved 4 games right there?  I agree with NotfromSoCal. You are thinking Poof but a shart is coming. 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 6607 on September 28, 2018, 03:27:57 PM
I don’t think they reported the Jamboree match ups as games...
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: SDhockeydad07 on September 28, 2018, 06:07:16 PM
I don’t think they reported the Jamboree match ups as games...


This. Because the jamboree, with its weird timing, was really just a bunch of scrimmages.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: MO-ICETIME on September 28, 2018, 10:05:02 PM
I don’t think they reported the Jamboree match ups as games...


This. Because the jamboree, with its weird timing, was really just a bunch of scrimmages.


Any game that has refs should be recorded. This is a general rule for myhockey rankings. The team isn't the one that posts the scores its whoever volunteered and that individual may not know what the actual scores are to post. Someone, anyone could log in and post the scores easily if they wanted to... then ** Poof** they would add to their game count.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: JustAnotherHockeyParent on September 29, 2018, 04:08:25 AM
The MHR rankings algorithms assume each game is "regulation" in time... so two 20-minute run-time periods fall short of really "counting"
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: NotfromSoCal on September 29, 2018, 08:47:10 AM
BS.  A game is a game.  Scores are kept and refs are in place.  If it didn’t matter, show me a list of games from the jamboree where the better team didn’t win or tie.  Pre-season scrimmages mean even less yet by your theory, those should count because they play longer???  Come on man.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: lcadad on September 29, 2018, 11:54:37 AM
I understand that people might debate the Jamboree, but from the point of view of the Myhockeyrankings site, those are exhibition games and count in the algorithm if reported.  As Mo-icetime stated, it just requires someone to report the scores. 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: NotfromSoCal on September 29, 2018, 12:23:57 PM
There is one designated volunteer for each league.  I tried to sign up before the jamboree because I have done it before.  It would be nice if the “volunteer” would be someone who understood the impact of getting the scores in for ALL teams and ALL games for our league rather than just their own team.  You can’t sign up for a team, you sign up for all of CAHA PeeWee AA.  Every game affects the (what was the word?) oh yea, logarithm because it impacts the strength of schedule.  If you know the volunteer tell them to seek out scores for all of our league and post them or relinquish the volunteer superpowers.  Yes anyone can send in scores and the volunteer accepts them but seriously.  Also, if you play teams in other age groups, divisions, etc. only the “volunteer” can go into tournament mode to post those score.  Message to volunteer...  “Get to work for the love of CAHA or hand over the keys!




Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: MO-ICETIME on September 29, 2018, 12:37:18 PM
The MHR rankings algorithms assume each game is "regulation" in time... so two 20-minute run-time periods fall short of really "counting"


I spoke to them last year about it and again, "any game worth playing is worth recording." Is their rule. A 40min gane vs 45 min game is the same in their eyes for the sake of recording it. It's all about developing a baseline and in the long run won't hurt your teams overall "ranking".
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: MO-ICETIME on September 29, 2018, 12:46:16 PM
There is one designated volunteer for each league.  I tried to sign up before the jamboree because I have done it before.  It would be nice if the “volunteer” would be someone who understood the impact of getting the scores in for ALL teams and ALL games for our league rather than just their own team.  You can’t sign up for a team, you sign up for all of CAHA PeeWee AA.  Every game affects the (what was the word?) oh yea, logarithm because it impacts the strength of schedule.  If you know the volunteer tell them to seek out scores for all of our league and post them or relinquish the volunteer superpowers.  Yes anyone can send in scores and the volunteer accepts them but seriously.  Also, if you play teams in other age groups, divisions, etc. only the “volunteer” can go into tournament mode to post those score.  Message to volunteer...  “Get to work for the love of CAHA or hand over the keys!


I think you can enter all games, even teams outside of CAHA. You shouldn't have to with someone already being assigned; but here you go: https://myhockeyrankings.com/online_entry.php (https://myhockeyrankings.com/online_entry.php)


Good luck! :-)
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: jvreagan on September 29, 2018, 12:47:47 PM
There is one designated volunteer for each league.  I tried to sign up before the jamboree because I have done it before.  It would be nice if the “volunteer” would be someone who understood the impact of getting the scores in for ALL teams and ALL games for our league rather than just their own team.  You can’t sign up for a team, you sign up for all of CAHA PeeWee AA. 


Here's how it works, multiple ways to get scores submitted.  https://www.myhockeyrankings.com/member_benefits.php?rs=y (https://www.myhockeyrankings.com/member_benefits.php?rs=y)


I mean, what would we do if someone's team wasn't ranked perfectly...
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: area51 on September 29, 2018, 01:17:09 PM
this if funny! all this talk for peewee AA hockey rankings. do the kids even care, or even know this exists?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: JustAnotherHockeyParent on September 29, 2018, 01:17:55 PM
They'll still require verification of the scores. Where are those scores posted for the jamboree? Also, the relative improvement/weakness in the rankings is determined by assessing performance relative to the spread... that are informed by other games. 40 minutes run time is quite different from a 48-minute stop-time game. Good luck getting those games posted, verified, and counted by MHR.


Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: KickSave on September 29, 2018, 03:02:36 PM
They’ll know because their parents will show them lol
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: NotfromSoCal on September 29, 2018, 03:18:03 PM
Verification means the “volunteer” hitting the Accept button.  The jamboree games are posted for some teams and not others.  It’s really not rocket science. If you don’t know what you are talking about, maybe learn and listen instead of taking.  I am just going to make a broad assumption that those of you that don’t care are probably on crappy teams or have underlying issues that lead to your negativity.  It isn’t life or death but it is kind of cool and there are 1,300+/- teams on there just for PeeWee AA.  Yes some kids do care as do coaches and some parents.  There is benefit in any recognition or reward if you know how to use it.  If you have a job, I will assume you have ranking reports. Do you give back your incentive check because it is stupid?   They are there for competition  and motivation.  Like anything, it only works if you use it.  If you don’t care how your kid stacks up, that’s fine but how will you know when there is improvement?  Maybe you should play on a rec league and everyone can get a trophy.  No ranking system is perfect but it’s what we have so embrace it. Tell your kid about it.  It might make him want to do better or try harder.  He/she might even understand why it’s important to push yourself to play tougher teams.  Playing weak teams and beating them by double digit goals will only get you so far.  Have fun and play hard! 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: JackBender on September 30, 2018, 09:39:57 AM
Verification means the “volunteer” hitting the Accept button.  The jamboree games are posted for some teams and not others.  It’s really not rocket science. If you don’t know what you are talking about, maybe learn and listen instead of taking.  I am just going to make a broad assumption that those of you that don’t care are probably on crappy teams or have underlying issues that lead to your negativity.  It isn’t life or death but it is kind of cool and there are 1,300+/- teams on there just for PeeWee AA.  Yes some kids do care as do coaches and some parents.  There is benefit in any recognition or reward if you know how to use it.  If you have a job, I will assume you have ranking reports. Do you give back your incentive check because it is stupid?   They are there for competition  and motivation.  Like anything, it only works if you use it.  If you don’t care how your kid stacks up, that’s fine but how will you know when there is improvement?  Maybe you should play on a rec league and everyone can get a trophy.  No ranking system is perfect but it’s what we have so embrace it. Tell your kid about it.  It might make him want to do better or try harder.  He/she might even understand why it’s important to push yourself to play tougher teams.  Playing weak teams and beating them by double digit goals will only get you so far.  Have fun and play hard!


NotfromSoCal... you just earned your first Stick Tap!!  Congrats!!  ;D
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Daddy Issues Curly on September 30, 2018, 05:21:02 PM
this if funny! all this talk for peewee AA hockey rankings. do the kids even care, or even know this exists?


Exactly!!!!


Get a life.....
Im sorry to say but your kid is NOT going to play in The NHL.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: JackBender on September 30, 2018, 07:47:26 PM
this if funny! all this talk for peewee AA hockey rankings. do the kids even care, or even know this exists?


Exactly!!!!


Get a life.....
Im sorry to say but your kid is NOT going to play in The NHL.


Does Daddy Issues Curly need a hug?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: NotfromSoCal on September 30, 2018, 09:12:55 PM
Hugs are for winners not dream crushers!!!  I don’t recall anyone on any post stating or even implying that their kid was going to the NHL.  But just for the record, some kids somewhere will actually grow up and play in the NHL.  That’s just a fact.  There are a LOT of kids from CAHA that will go on to play hockey in college or at a higher level.  That is also a fact.  Making comments like that are just plain ignorant.  BTW, thanks for the stick tap Mr. Bender!!!
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: HockeyGuy-99 on October 01, 2018, 10:55:11 AM
this if funny! all this talk for peewee AA hockey rankings. do the kids even care, or even know this exists?


Exactly!!!!


Get a life.....
Im sorry to say but your kid is NOT going to play in The NHL.
I asked my son what he was going to be when he grows up and he told me he was going to be an NHL player!  Are you calling my son a liar?  The look in his eye had me convinced!  We dropped out of school and have given up on books and silly things like math and science altogether.  You now have me second guessing my parenting decisions and/or my son's career path.   


Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: alfirst on October 02, 2018, 09:04:17 PM
To stir the topic into other direction - thinking (or more like watching) NHL or KHL - SCAHA posted some Flights PWAA schedule which is not in line with CAHA weekends - anybody have an idea what it is?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: PuckMonster on October 02, 2018, 10:47:00 PM
To stir the topic into other direction - thinking (or more like watching) NHL or KHL - SCAHA posted some Flights PWAA schedule which is not in line with CAHA weekends - anybody have an idea what it is?


It is the only way the Kings large roster will get playing time.  They will not roll lines in Caha Weekends so the extra kids might want to watch the grass grow off the ice.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 6607 on October 03, 2018, 05:57:21 AM
Alfirst:  AA teams out of SoCal  play two schedules.  The CAHA schedule and the SCAHA schedule.  CAHA games count towards the CAHA standings; SCAHA games don’t.  Last year, SCAHA did not follow CAHA’s flighting system, which resulted in many non competitive games and the occasional embarrassing upset.


PM: does Kings 1 roll lines?  Doubt they will adopt different philosophies for SCAHA games, which will be counted by mhr...
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: alfirst on October 03, 2018, 09:31:14 AM
6607 - thanks for clarifying. So those are basically exhibition games as they do not effect "main" standings.


Well, PWAA teams just officially play way more games than PWA - guess, that's right for a higher tier. Wish I figured that out before the season...
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: TheFourthA on October 03, 2018, 10:23:38 AM
  Here’s my partially informed take on how things sort out going into Valencia.  I’ve put in bold italics the match-up that I am most interested in for each team, and have not counted exhibitions against AAA teams.
 
1.    Gulls (1) (5-1-1):  Beat Sharks (1) 5-3; lost to Ducks (1) 2-1; beat  Kings (2) 6-1 and tied Kings (1) at Jamboree.  Beat Kings (1) 5-3,  PML 8-1 and Ducks (2) 5-0.   I put them 1 by virtue of their regulation game win against Kings (1).  Valencia match-ups:  GSE(2), Kings(1) and Ducks (1). How do they match up against the strongest team from NorCal?
 
2.    Ice Dogs (1) (8-0): Beat Kings (1) 2-1, Reign 3-1, Ducks (2) 3-0, and Ducks (1) 2-1 at Jamboree.  Beat Wave 9-1 in scrimmage.  Beat Ducks (2) 4-1,  Gulls (2) 5-0, and Empire 7-2.  Valencia match-ups:  Ducks (1), ID (2), Wave, and Kings (1).   First game of the weekend and of the CAHA season.
 
3.    GSE (2)  (6-0-1):   Beat Ducks (2) 5-3, Gulls (2) (1-0), and  B’hawks 5-3, and tied  Empire 2-2 at Jamboree.  Beat GSE (1) 7-0, Sharks (1) 8-3 and Sharks 2 7-1 at pre-Jamboree scrimmages.   Valencia match-ups:  Gulls (1), ID (2), and B’Hawks.  I think GSE (2) will dictate whether this is a run and gun or more controlled game; I think GSE (2) would win a controlled game but can’t wait to see what happens if it becomes a north-south race.  My bet for most entertaining game of the weekend.

 
4.    Kings (1) (5-2-1):  Lost to Ice Dogs (1) 2-1; Beat Sharks (1) 7-0 and GSE(1) 5-0 and tied  Gulls (1) 2-2 at Jamboree. Beat Empire 5-0; lost to Gulls (1) 5-3;  beat PML 4-1;  beat OC 8-0.   Valencia match-ups:  Wave, Gulls (1), ID (1), and ID(2).  Two losses against the same team would probably relieve  K (1) of the  pressure of their number 1 MHR ranking.
 
5.    Wave (3-4-1).  Tied  Ducks (1), beat PML 5-1; lost to B’Hawks 3-2 and ID (2) 2-0 at Jamboree.  Lost to Ducks (1) 4-2 Lost to ID (1) 9-1.  Beat Ducks (1) 4-3. Beat ID(2) 4-3.  Starting to get results on ice that match their talent on paper.  Valencia match-ups:  Kings (1), ID(1) and ID(2).  Have they topped out or improved enough to compete against K (1)?
 
6.    Ice Dogs (2) (5-1-2).  Tied Gulls (2), beat GSE (1) 2-0, OC 9-0, and Wave 2-0 at Jamboree.  Tied Ducks (2) 6-6, Beat Gulls  (2) 10-1 and Kings (2) 11-1.  Lost to Wave 4-3.  I think they have the toughest schedule for this weekend.  Valencia match-ups:  ID (1), GSE (2), Wave, and Kings (1).  Need to play a full game against the Wave or the weekend could be tough.
 
7.    Empire (3-2-1):  Beat GSE (1) 2-1, Ducks (2) 1-0,  and Reign 4-2, and tied GSE (2) 2-2 at Jamboree.   Beat PML 4-3 and Reign 5-0; lost to Kings (1) 5-0  and ID(1) 7-2. Valencia match-ups: B’hawks and Ducks(1).  Empire gets two of the first three games and that’s it for the weekend for them.  WTF?! 
 
8.   Ducks (1) (6-3-2):  Tied Wave 1-1; beat Gulls (1) (2-1) and Sharks (1) 5-1.  Lost to Ice Dogs (1) 2-1 at Jamboree.  Don’t have all of their scores but beat Wave 4-2, beat Reign 5-0, lost to Kings (1) 5-1; beat Kings (2) 5-3, lost to Wave 4-3; tied Ducks (2) 3-3.  Beat OC 3-1.  Valencia match-ups:  ID(1), Empire, B’hawks, and Gulls(1).  Two tough match ups book-end easier ones.  Let’s see how they are playing at the end of the weekend against the Gulls.
 
9.   Blackhawks (2-2-1):  Lost to Kings(2) 3-2; Beat Sharks(2) 9-1 and Wave 3-2;  lost to GSE (2) 5-3 at Jamboree.   Seem to have played one team to a 5-5 tie in a scrimmage.  Maybe a NorCal parent can comment.   Valencia match-ups: Empire, Ducks(1), and GSE(2).  Not sure what to make of this team.
 
Anyone have thoughts on likely candidates for the play-in team?

 
 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: HockeyGuy-99 on October 03, 2018, 12:47:17 PM
I appreciate your effort TheForthA!  It was a good read.  The only thing I may question is Gulls 1 being #1 seeing as though they lost to the Ducks 1.  Not a strong team at all!  Just like last years Ducks flight one team, they are in for a long season.  Yes, the Gulls did make up for it with a win over Kings 1.  Clearly one of these 2 teams(Kings1 & Gulls 1) didn't get enough sleep the night before one of these games.  Either it was the Gulls vs the Ducks or the Kings vs the Gulls.  I guess we will find out this weekend!

.....And Poof! There are the Gulls at the top of the standings!   
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: TheFourthA on October 04, 2018, 09:21:54 AM
Regarding the Gulls, I didn't know a lot about them before the Jamboree, and was expecting Kings 1 to dispatch them in short order.  Didn't happen, and they followed it up with a regulation win.  So may be I have over ranked them because they beat my expectations for them.

 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: NotfromSoCal on October 06, 2018, 01:21:10 PM
... And POOF, there goes the Gulls!
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: overHEATed on October 07, 2018, 07:09:04 PM
Flight 1 Final scores:

ID1.  2 - DUCKS  2
HAWKS  3 - EMPIRE  5
EMPIRE  6 - DUCKS 6
ID1.  6 -  ID2.  2
GULLS1  2 - GSE2. 4
WAVE  1 - KINGS1. 4
DUCKS  4 - HAWKS  4
ID1.  5 - WAVE 1
KINGS1.  4 - GULLS1.  2
GSE2.  9 - ID2. 1
GSE2.  6 - HAWKS 3
KINGS1. 1 - ID1.  0
ID2.  6 -  WAVE  4
GULLS1.  3 - DUCKS 1
KINGS1.  2 - ID2.  0
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: LetsGoRangers on October 08, 2018, 11:32:05 AM
If I was a GSE2 parent I would be pissed to go to Valencia and play the Blackhawks when they could have played a tougher (non-local) team like JRK1 or ID1. But hey that 4-0 record looks good!
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Rats13 on October 08, 2018, 11:49:51 AM
If I was a GSE2 parent I would be pissed to go to Valencia and play the Blackhawks when they could have played a tougher (non-local) team like JRK1 or ID1. But hey that 4-0 record looks good!
Although it seems weird to go to Valencia and play a NoCal team, it's not like it really makes a difference. They had to travel for the weekend anyways for the games against other SoCal teams.  It wouldn't save them anything to flip the game against the Hawks to a NoCal weekend.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: overHEATed on October 08, 2018, 12:42:50 PM
If I was a GSE2 parent I would be pissed to go to Valencia and play the Blackhawks when they could have played a tougher (non-local) team like JRK1 or ID1. But hey that 4-0 record looks good!
Although it seems weird to go to Valencia and play a NoCal team, it's not like it really makes a difference. They had to travel for the weekend anyways for the games against other SoCal teams.  It wouldn't save them anything to flip the game against the Hawks to a NoCal weekend.


If I were to go to Norcal to play So Cal teams it would seem to be a waste.. All So Cal teams can scrimmage each other every weekend.
I would prefer a heavy dose of Norcal teams. Defeats the purpose of traveling.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: NotfromSoCal on October 08, 2018, 12:51:45 PM
What difference does it make?  In February, the SoCal teams get to vacation in Vacaville twice to play other SoCal.  Well twice if they make the playoffs.  Every team plays each team twice and the number of trips up/down I-5 is the same.  Find something relevant to talk about like how in the H. E. Double Hockey Sticks did Kings 1 only beat ID 2 by a score of 2-0 yesterday?  BTW, the Gulls beat and tied the Kings in exhibition right?  These two teams have been anointed on here but they struggled to beat weak teams.  GSE2 is like a fine wine and will just get better with age...
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: LetsGoRangers on October 08, 2018, 01:03:03 PM
What difference does it make?  In February, the SoCal teams get to vacation in Vacaville twice to play other SoCal.  Well twice if they make the playoffs.  Every team plays each team twice and the number of trips up/down I-5 is the same.  Find something relevant to talk about like how in the H. E. Double Hockey Sticks did Kings 1 only beat ID 2 by a score of 2-0 yesterday?  BTW, the Gulls beat and tied the Kings in exhibition right?  These two teams have been anointed on here but they struggled to beat weak teams.  GSE2 is like a fine wine and will just get better with age...
What difference does it make? You just contradicted yourself with the difference it does make....lets just put this out into the intraweb. Which teams will develop more as the season progresses...the teams that play tougher teams earlier in the season or later?

I wont speak for anyone else but I rather play close games against tough teams early in the season (maybe even lose a game or 2)..but hey, thats just me.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Rats13 on October 08, 2018, 01:09:04 PM
If I was a GSE2 parent I would be pissed to go to Valencia and play the Blackhawks when they could have played a tougher (non-local) team like JRK1 or ID1. But hey that 4-0 record looks good!
Although it seems weird to go to Valencia and play a NoCal team, it's not like it really makes a difference. They had to travel for the weekend anyways for the games against other SoCal teams.  It wouldn't save them anything to flip the game against the Hawks to a NoCal weekend.


If I were to go to Norcal to play So Cal teams it would seem to be a waste.. All So Cal teams can scrimmage each other every weekend.
I would prefer a heavy dose of Norcal teams. Defeats the purpose of traveling.
But you will.  There aren't as many NorCal teams as SoCal teams.  Everyone travels to each CAHA weekend with I believe a balanced schedule of each team twice.  Most CAHA weekends are a mix OR all SoCal team regardless of location.
Also if I am not mistaken they tried cutting back on the CAHA weekends and had the SCAHA Sunday games count in the standings to eliminate travel and there were less games and people complained.

Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: LetsGoRangers on October 08, 2018, 01:18:08 PM
If I was a GSE2 parent I would be pissed to go to Valencia and play the Blackhawks when they could have played a tougher (non-local) team like JRK1 or ID1. But hey that 4-0 record looks good!
Although it seems weird to go to Valencia and play a NoCal team, it's not like it really makes a difference. They had to travel for the weekend anyways for the games against other SoCal teams.  It wouldn't save them anything to flip the game against the Hawks to a NoCal weekend.

Ok but what is the logic of playing the Blackhawks twice...both in Valencia? I get some Norcal teams have to play each other when traveling to SoCal, I totally get that..but come on.

Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Bear71 on October 08, 2018, 01:49:43 PM
What difference does it make?  In February, the SoCal teams get to vacation in Vacaville twice to play other SoCal.  Well twice if they make the playoffs.  Every team plays each team twice and the number of trips up/down I-5 is the same.  Find something relevant to talk about like how in the H. E. Double Hockey Sticks did Kings 1 only beat ID 2 by a score of 2-0 yesterday?  BTW, the Gulls beat and tied the Kings in exhibition right?  These two teams have been anointed on here but they struggled to beat weak teams.  GSE2 is like a fine wine and will just get better with age...


Struggled?  Giving up 3 goals in 4 games isn't what I would call a struggle; seems the teams they played had the struggle.  At the end of the day, 4-0 is 4-0.  GSE2, from what I saw, is really more like a Gallo Merlot (with a screw top bottle).   
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: NotfromSoCal on October 08, 2018, 05:31:06 PM
Let’s see...  GSE2 beat ID2 9-1 and Kings 1 beat them 2-0.  Maybe a struggle isn’t the right word...  BTW, we drink our wine out of a box and it is delicious.  No harm done with the screw top comment.  Looking forward to a fun year with some good, competitive hockey.


PSA:  Gallo has some great fine wines and spirits but you have to look beyond the bottom shelf at WINCO to find it...
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: LetsGoRangers on October 08, 2018, 06:37:20 PM
Let’s see...  GSE2 beat ID2 9-1 and Kings 1 beat them 2-0.  Maybe a struggle isn’t the right word...  BTW, we drink our wine out of a box and it is delicious.  No harm done with the screw top comment.  Looking forward to a fun year with some good, competitive hockey.


PSA:  Gallo has some great fine wines and spirits but you have to look beyond the bottom shelf at WINCO to find it...
GSE2's current record is 6-0-1...lets look at how we got to that record:

Win 7-0 vs GSE1 (now a flight 2 team)
win 7-1 vs Sharks2 (Now a PWBB team)
win 8-3 vs  Sharks1 (now a flight 2 team)
Win 1-0 vs Gulls2 (now a flight 2 team)
Win 5-3 vs Ducks2 (now a flight 2 team)
Win 5-3 vs BlackHawks
Tie 2-2 vs Empire
Win 9-1 vs ID2
Win 4-2 vs Gulls1 (NICE WIN!)
Win 6-3 vs BlackHawks
"slow clap"
There is a reason NYR ranking ID1 and JRK1 a lot higher than GSE2...
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: NotfromSoCal on October 08, 2018, 08:02:17 PM
Hey Einstein, I know math is tough for you but that looks like 9-0-1 from the eagle’s nest looking down.  Maybe you can practice your math on GSE’s goal differential.  It’s going to be a big number so you will have to take your socks off and probably use the digits from some cousins and stuff. 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Bear71 on October 08, 2018, 08:51:07 PM
Hey Einstein, I know math is tough for you but that looks like 9-0-1 from the eagle’s nest looking down.  Maybe you can practice your math on GSE’s goal differential.  It’s going to be a big number so you will have to take your socks off and probably use the digits from some cousins and stuff.



A big number, like the difference in the score when essentially the rosters of GSE 2 and Kings 1 (as California Patriots) played Memorial Day weekend?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: NotfromSoCal on October 08, 2018, 09:15:09 PM
It was a big number, you got that right.  As for the rosters, not so much.  Not even close for either team.  You can’t even say these are the same teams that played on Memorial weekend.  Do you have anymore irrelevant information to share?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Bear71 on October 08, 2018, 09:40:45 PM
It was a big number, you got that right.  As for the rosters, not so much.  Not even close for either team.  You can’t even say these are the same teams that played on Memorial weekend.  Do you have anymore irrelevant information to share?


Didn’t say they were the same teams (the word used was “essentialy”), but when 13 kids from GSE 2 and 13 kids from Kings 1 were onthose Memorial Day rosters, I wouldn’t state that as irrelevant.


You might have to take your socks off...
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: TheFourthA on October 09, 2018, 06:00:39 AM
Did anyone see anything at the Jamboree that leads them to think that Kings 1, GSE 2, Gulls 1 and ID1 won’t be the Top 4 teams at the end of the regular season (not necessarily in that order)? Who is the best candidate to displace one of those from the Top 4?


Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: LetsGoRangers on October 09, 2018, 09:01:09 AM
Hey Einstein, I know math is tough for you but that looks like 9-0-1 from the eagle’s nest looking down.  Maybe you can practice your math on GSE’s goal differential.  It’s going to be a big number so you will have to take your socks off and probably use the digits from some cousins and stuff.
you are correct! I wasnt counting the win against the Sharks PWB team...
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 2 Cups in LA on October 09, 2018, 09:05:51 AM
The 4A... You have nailed it.  Flight 2 is irrelavant and should be playing in the PWA division.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: NotfromSoCal on October 09, 2018, 02:03:23 PM
Empire could easily replace the Kings in the top 4.  Oh, and Bear71 while I am thinking about it...  Didn't the "Kings aka Patriots" team that played in Carmen Starr have multiple players from the Sharks AAA and Vegas Golden Knights on it.  Sounds like maybe there is some untruth in your comments but my feelings aren't hurt.  You also may have noticed that GSE only took one team to Carmen Starr.  It was a "spring" team and not close to today's roster.  Some kids and families chose to do other activities perhaps.  Carmen Starr simply has NOTHING to do with the CAHA Flight 1 Tier 2 World Intergalactic Intercontinental Championship League.   Looking forward to a great season...
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Bear71 on October 09, 2018, 02:37:38 PM
Empire could easily replace the Kings in the top 4.  Oh, and Bear71 while I am thinking about it...  Didn't the "Kings aka Patriots" team that played in Carmen Starr have multiple players from the Sharks AAA and Vegas Golden Knights on it.  Sounds like maybe there is some untruth in your comments but my feelings aren't hurt.  You also may have noticed that GSE only took one team to Carmen Starr.  It was a "spring" team and not close to today's roster.  Some kids and families chose to do other activities perhaps.  Carmen Starr simply has NOTHING to do with the CAHA Flight 1 Tier 2 World Intergalactic Intercontinental Championship League.   Looking forward to a great season...


NFSC, that team you are thinking of with Sharks AAA and Vegas kids was the Western Patriots Selects (who also whipped GSE).  I'm talking about the Patriot team that scored early and often on GSE; GSE ended up scoring one goal with about a minute left in the game (might have been scored by a current Blackhawk), which featured a running clock.  At least 13 kids from GSE 2 were on that roster at Carmen Starr, so I would say it is pretty close to today's roster; same for Kings 1.


Go ahead and try to convince yourself that it didn't happen, but the rosters for both teams are still available to view.  And yes, it should be a great season. 



Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: NotfromSoCal on October 09, 2018, 03:21:00 PM
Bear71, You are correct about the scores and incorrect about the teams.  They simply aren't the same teams and that spring hockey.  No comparison to what is going on now.  Five different kids on GSE and like 25 more kids on the Kings roster now.  In any event, I surrender.  This is a boring conversation for everyone.  YOU WIN! GO KINGS!!!  GIVE THEM THE CROWN!!!
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: LetsGoRangers on October 09, 2018, 03:31:12 PM
Bear71, You are correct about the scores and incorrect about the teams.  They simply aren't the same teams and that spring hockey.  No comparison to what is going on now.  Five different kids on GSE and like 25 more kids on the Kings roster now.  In any event, I surrender.  This is a boring conversation for everyone.  YOU WIN! GO KINGS!!!  GIVE THEM THE CROWN!!!
KINGS WIN AGAIN!
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Bear71 on October 09, 2018, 03:40:14 PM
Bear71, You are correct about the scores and incorrect about the teams.  They simply aren't the same teams and that spring hockey.  No comparison to what is going on now.  Five different kids on GSE and like 25 more kids on the Kings roster now.  In any event, I surrender.  This is a boring conversation for everyone.  YOU WIN! GO KINGS!!!  GIVE THEM THE CROWN!!!


I guess that GSE Carmen Starr team was merely grape juice then, huh?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: ScottyB#22 on October 11, 2018, 02:44:21 AM
Did anyone see anything at the Jamboree that leads them to think that Kings 1, GSE 2, Gulls 1 and ID1 won’t be the Top 4 teams at the end of the regular season (not necessarily in that order)? Who is the best candidate to displace one of those from the Top 4?

Empire
In last 6 games (4 at Jamboree, 2 at 1st CAHA weekend)....no losses
GSE1: 2-1
Ducks2: 1-0
Reign: 4-2
GSE2: 2-2
Hawks: 5-3
Ducks1: 6-6
The wins were certainly not blow aways...close games but a W is a W.
Should know better after a Gulls, Kings and ID games....coming up.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: TheFourthA on October 11, 2018, 05:06:31 AM
You are overlooking the SCAHA games between the Jamboree and Valencia.  Empire beat PML (a Flight 2 team) 4-3 and the Reign (another Flight 2 team ) 5-0, but lost to ID1 7-2.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 2 Cups in LA on October 11, 2018, 09:25:55 AM
The 4th A is making a valid point about Flight 1 & 2.   Miss matches among the two flights does NOT make your team factor into the equation of a real PWAA team.    The reality is among the 17 teams playing in the two flights, half of them should be playing in the PWA division.    Kings1, GSE2 & ID1 are the real teams to beat in 18/19 season.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: ScottyB#22 on October 11, 2018, 09:43:37 AM
You are overlooking the SCAHA games between the Jamboree and Valencia.  Empire beat PML (a Flight 2 team) 4-3 and the Reign (another Flight 2 team ) 5-0, but lost to ID1 7-2.


Yes the ID2 game was a pre-season SCAHA game. In the loss to ID1, Empire was only down by one the score was 3-2 until 4 minutes left in the third. ID1 scored 4 goals in 6 shots. That shows that Empire could be competitive against ID1 in the future, and played well against them for most of the game.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Go Kings_26 on October 11, 2018, 12:04:40 PM
4 goals on 6 shots?  Wow - not sure I would forecast a teams competitiveness on that........Holy moly! 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: TheFourthA on October 11, 2018, 01:21:36 PM
ID 1 out shot Empire 40-20. 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 6607 on October 18, 2018, 06:13:09 AM
Pretty quiet here, but a fair amount to talk about. Empire was being floated as a potential Top 4 team but got crushed by the Wave on Sunday.  Gulls lost to ID1 5-2; right now, Gulls look 2 goals behind each of the Top 3.  GSE 2 had a rough road trip and lost three games, and now find themselves near local A teams in the mhr rankings. In fact, two A teams are ranked higher than the bottom half of Flight 1 on mhr.

Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: SDhockeydad07 on October 19, 2018, 09:22:22 AM
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Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: overHEATed on October 21, 2018, 05:47:19 PM
Score updates?


Kings1 3-2 over ID1


ID2 7-2 over Wave
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: ScottyB#22 on October 22, 2018, 10:42:04 AM
Empire beat Jr Ducks 1 5-2

Also, we are new to the ice hockey scene. So my 2 cents may not mean much, but here are my thoughts about a couple of things. MHR rankings, although a guide, are not the end all be all. We have played many scrimmages, and they are not listed, while others are. I believe we even have some games that are not, or at least haven’t been listed. So the ranking can definitely be off. Also, I don’t know that coaches care as much about all that as parents do ;-) Our Coach for instance looks at CAHA games differently than SCAHA games or scrimmages. He will use a SCAHA game, as in the Empire vs Wave game as a way to teach the kids a lesson about their game play. I will just say, that he was not pleased with the initial effort and teamwork from the team, and while the score was tied after the second, he switched things up to teach a valuable lesson to the kids about playing their position well, team work, and their level of compete. All this to say, that sometimes we don’t have all the info just by looking at a score in a scrimmage or SCAHA game.

Here’s to a great hockey season!
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Hockeydad30 on October 22, 2018, 12:49:26 PM
Empire beat Jr Ducks 1 5-2

Also, we are new to the ice hockey scene. So my 2 cents may not mean much, but here are my thoughts about a couple of things. MHR rankings, although a guide, are not the end all be all. We have played many scrimmages, and they are not listed, while others are. I believe we even have some games that are not, or at least haven’t been listed. So the ranking can definitely be off. Also, I don’t know that coaches care as much about all that as parents do ;-) Our Coach for instance looks at CAHA games differently than SCAHA games or scrimmages. He will use a SCAHA game, as in the Empire vs Wave game as a way to teach the kids a lesson about their game play. I will just say, that he was not pleased with the initial effort and teamwork from the team, and while the score was tied after the second, he switched things up to teach a valuable lesson to the kids about playing their position well, team work, and their level of compete. All this to say, that sometimes we don’t have all the info just by looking at a score in a scrimmage or SCAHA game.

Here’s to a great hockey season!

mhr allows volunteers to add scores for scrimmages etc if something is missing you can add it. 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: overHEATed on October 22, 2018, 10:14:22 PM
I wouldn't put too much emphasis on the MHR as it currently stands. As the season goes, it will level out.
Example... last week the 3rd place team had two PWA blow outs tallied. Don't know how that didn't immensely impact their strength of schedule.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 6607 on October 26, 2018, 10:13:46 AM
So what’s happening over in Lakewood?  Heard rumors that Runtso Ducks were losing players and having tryouts...any truth?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: keepdrinkinthekoolaid on October 26, 2018, 10:47:50 AM
So what’s happening over in Lakewood?  Heard rumors that Runtso Ducks we’re losing players and having tryouts...any truth?
Jr Ducks having roster problems?  How dare you, who would have predicted or guessed that?  Thank goodness it's the Jr Ducks though.  They have brass in CAHA "higher" places that know exactly how to make this all go away, AGAIN. If this were the CA Wave or another CAHA Tier Club, could be devastating to a program..

For those scoring at home that may not know exactly what we are referring to, please refer to CAHA Rulebook, Section 6.17(2)(b) page #15 of 116 pages: http://www.caha.com/docs/2017-2019%20CAHA%20Guidebook%20(rev%2020170714).pdf (http://www.caha.com/docs/2017-2019%20CAHA%20Guidebook%20(rev%2020170714).pdf)

If you are part of the Jr Ducks and have never heard of CAHA or 2017-2019 RULES, I'm not sure exactly how to assist you, as you now it has been said, you can't fix stupid! 

Also, Ex- NHL'r Jr Ducks Coach, please wear your helmet while on the ice during practice as your Head Coach is going to be very busy keeping the smoke and mirrors show performing in your absence, that is all..

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Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Carl Henry on October 26, 2018, 04:39:55 PM
Since there are some people that are interested  and concerned about the JD1 team and roster. I can post if and when we have an open tryouts. We always have space for a couple parents to get me free tacos on Taco Tuesday and to refill the water bottles. Lol, we could always use a couple strong players as long as their parents stay home.

Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: keepdrinkinthekoolaid on October 26, 2018, 04:46:54 PM
Since there are some people that are interested  and concerned about the JD1 team and roster. I can post if and when we have an open tryouts. We always have space for a couple parents to get me free tacos on Taco Tuesday and to refill the water bottles. Lol, we could always use a couple strong players as long as their parents stay home.
How is a parent supposed to get their 12 yr old to the rink & you keep the parent away? 

Westminster Ice holds that answer, Posse Bar.  Maybe have the coaches change Ducks Ice venues & you may get alot of interested parties
OR
it’s been stated on this board JK’s have a very large roster maybe have a few swap clubs in the next 30 days?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Bear71 on October 26, 2018, 05:04:31 PM
JD's wouldn't take any of the JK players because none of the JK parents can coach.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Carl Henry on October 26, 2018, 05:37:00 PM
If the Kings are offering us players I will attend your next practice and pick one offensive and one defensive player to take back to Lakewood. Thanks for lending a hand, in regards to coaching I'm sure we have that covered. When we start winning I will be more than happy to give advice and start talking mess. Until that time comes enjoy.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: keepdrinkinthekoolaid on October 26, 2018, 07:08:54 PM
If the Kings are offering us players I will attend your next practice and pick one offensive and one defensive player to take back to Lakewood. Thanks for lending a hand, in regards to coaching I'm sure we have that covered. When we start winning I will be more than happy to give advice and start talking mess. Until that time comes enjoy.
Not someone who can offer you Jr Kings players and would definitely prefer the Posse Bar option myself.   

But, you may want your Coach or Coach(s) to ask for more than 2, even before Thanksgiving Tournament there are people hearing of roster number problems on AA1 due to another couple of #daddycoaches right behind the original #daddycoaches, that were successful with their ghost rostering along with a washed up ECHL player that allegedly fancies himself a Ukrainian coaching phenom

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Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: TheFourthA on October 28, 2018, 05:36:52 PM
ID(1) over ID(2), 9-2.  Any other scores?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: overHEATed on October 28, 2018, 06:46:59 PM
Kings1 over 07 AAA Jr. Ducks 4-2
Kings1 over Empire 3-2
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 6607 on October 29, 2018, 11:51:52 AM
Or it could be that kids who put in time outside of practice improve more than those that don’t.  I don’t doubt that there are some pay to play coaches out there, but many parents who openly complain in rinkside conversations about pay to play are really complaining about paying to improve, and rarely are seen at a rink apart from practices and games during the season, and go dark during the spring.  That might be fine for in house and for what passes as A level hockey, but it’s not reasonable to think that most kids can be successful at true AA level by just attending team practices. 



Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Disco Dan on November 05, 2018, 10:19:11 AM
Anyone know how the Runtso  Ducks and Texeira Ducks did in Chicago?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Hockeydad30 on November 05, 2018, 10:46:24 AM
Anyone know how the Runtso  Ducks and Texeira Ducks did in Chicago?
Texeira- went undefeated until semi final game and lost 1-0 to Tampa bulls teamRuntso- looks like they played in the 06 jetspeed division went 1 and 3 for tourney.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: TheFourthA on November 05, 2018, 11:21:00 AM
Other CAHA teams at CCM:  BHawks went 1-3 and Dogs 1 went 4-1.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: overHEATed on November 09, 2018, 08:25:51 PM
Any CAHA game updates?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Carl Henry on November 09, 2018, 08:27:05 PM
Ducks 1 lost to ID1 1-8
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: ScottyB#22 on November 09, 2018, 11:41:43 PM
GSE2 lost to Empire 3-4
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: overHEATed on November 11, 2018, 08:31:55 PM
CAHA weekend in the books.
JD1 - 2 - ID1- 8
WAVE 4 - GULLS - 8
EMPIRE - 4 - GSE2 - 3
HAWKS - 2 - ID2 - 8
ID2 - 5 - EMPIRE - 2
JD1 - 1 - KINGS - 5
HAWKS - 2 - ID1 - 6
GSE2 - 2 - WAVE - 4
EMPIRE - 1 - KINGS - 3
GULLS - 16 - HAWKS - 1
JD1 - 2 - GSE2 - 4
WAVE - 6 - JD1 - 2
GSE2 - 5 - ID1 - 8
EMPIRE - 0 - GULLS - 6
HAWKS - 2 - KINGS - 5
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Bear71 on November 12, 2018, 08:38:40 AM
CAHA weekend in the books.
JD1 - 2 - ID1- 8
WAVE 4 - GULLS - 8
EMPIRE - 4 - GSE2 - 3
HAWKS - 2 - ID2 - 8
ID2 - 5 - EMPIRE - 2
JD1 - 1 - KINGS - 5
HAWKS - 2 - ID1 - 6
GSE2 - 2 - WAVE - 4
EMPIRE - 1 - KINGS - 3
GULLS - 16 - HAWKS - 1
JD1 - 2 - GSE2 - 4
WAVE - 6 - JD1 - 2
GSE2 - 5 - ID1 - 8
EMPIRE - 0 - GULLS - 6
HAWKS - 2 - KINGS - 5


You are doing a major disservice by not posting the Flight 2 scores as well.  Those kids worked just as hard and should be recognized, even though they didn't get a chance to beat GSE2 like most Flight 1 teams.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: NotfromSoCal on November 12, 2018, 09:03:28 AM
@Bear71 - So your point is that Flight 2 teams should get more respect but then you trash a Flight 1 team that is 4-3 and in 4th place.  Makes perfect sense to me!  Are you bitter about your little Gretzky being in Flight 2 or is it because you have to drive to Vacaville in Feb.  The good news is, your team won't make the play-downs so you only have to make the drive once. 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: overHEATed on November 12, 2018, 09:11:40 AM
CAHA weekend in the books.
JD1 - 2 - ID1- 8
WAVE 4 - GULLS - 8
EMPIRE - 4 - GSE2 - 3
HAWKS - 2 - ID2 - 8
ID2 - 5 - EMPIRE - 2
JD1 - 1 - KINGS - 5
HAWKS - 2 - ID1 - 6
GSE2 - 2 - WAVE - 4
EMPIRE - 1 - KINGS - 3
GULLS - 16 - HAWKS - 1
JD1 - 2 - GSE2 - 4
WAVE - 6 - JD1 - 2
GSE2 - 5 - ID1 - 8
EMPIRE - 0 - GULLS - 6
HAWKS - 2 - KINGS - 5


You are doing a major disservice by not posting the Flight 2 scores as well.  Those kids worked just as hard and should be recognized, even though they didn't get a chance to beat GSE2 like most Flight 1 teams.


Norcal teams going 1-8 this weekend must of made for some interesting conversation on their way home!


GSE2 Hype, not panning out. Was expecting much much more from them against the heavy hitters in Flight 1.


Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Bear71 on November 12, 2018, 09:19:45 AM
@Bear71 - So your point is that Flight 2 teams should get more respect but then you trash a Flight 1 team that is 4-3 and in 4th place.  Makes perfect sense to me!  Are you bitter about your little Gretzky being in Flight 2 or is it because you have to drive to Vacaville in Feb.  The good news is, your team won't make the play-downs so you only have to make the drive once.


That Flight 1 team didn't need any help from me in trashing it; they did just fine by themselves.


BTW, my metallic green '74 Pacer will fit in just fine on the roads in Vacaville and my little Gretzky is right where he should be.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: NotfromSoCal on November 12, 2018, 09:26:46 AM
Not sure who are considered "heavy hitters", but anyway...  Happy Monday and Veteran's Day to all!  Still a lot of hockey to be played this season and looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: TheFourthA on November 12, 2018, 10:46:33 AM
Bear:  feel free to respect the Flight 2 kids and post their scores.  No disrespect to any kid or team, but I really don’t think any Flight 2 team would beat GSE2.  That’s a running time game and probably a double digit GD before the second period was over.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Bear71 on November 12, 2018, 12:50:46 PM
Bear:  feel free to respect the Flight 2 kids and post their scores.  No disrespect to any kid or team, but I really don’t think any Flight 2 team would beat GSE2.  That’s a running time game and probably a double digit GD before the second period was over.


I'm going to be a very rich man once I fully develop the sarcasm font.  As for posting scores, no need, as our friends at CAHA take care of that for us on these weekends.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: keepdrinkinthekoolaid on November 30, 2018, 06:53:31 AM
Ghostly quiet here, especially as the PW AA's are going into another big weekend of CAHA Hockey.

Is it because that after 6 or 7 league games there does seems to be a HUGE difference in PW AA talent and teams? 

Yes, there are 9 teams in Flt 1, but just because "your 'lil Gretzky" plays in that bracket, does that mean they actually belong?

CONGRATULATIONS to the JK1 for winning the Tinseltown Thanksgiving Tournament and a 5-0 Finals statement win over ID2.  CONGRATULATIONS also to JD1 & Wave who were the other teams that advanced to the Semi-Finals.  With a loss like that though is it possible ID2 may not be as strong as we all once thought and headed the same direction as JD1? 


Going to go out on a limb here and say there will be further separation in this whole bracket after this CAHA weekend with each team playing 3 or 4 more games.

Travel safe all and see you at The Rinks!










Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: TheFourthA on November 30, 2018, 09:13:06 AM
I may be missing something.  How was JK1 beating Dogs 2 a statement win?  Dogs 2 is ranked more than 100 teams lower than JK1.  Looks pretty chalk to me.



Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: keepdrinkinthekoolaid on November 30, 2018, 09:17:37 AM
I may be missing something.  How was JK1 beating Dogs 2 a statement win?  Dogs 2 is ranked more than 100 teams lower than JK1.  Looks pretty chalk to me.
5-0 score, then made the obvious deduction that one team scored 5 goals and the other was shut out, in a Tournament Final game, where both teams were undefeated prior.  Chalk?  I read the ink!
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 2 Cups in LA on November 30, 2018, 09:24:01 AM
"The Kool Aide Guy Nailed it"  PWAA Flight 1 & 2 is total S show with the exception of a few teams.   
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: overHEATed on November 30, 2018, 09:36:54 AM
Big game tonight, GSE2 vs. JK1.
Lets see if the outcome is any different from when JK1 were the Patriots early this year.
Will it be box wine or grape juice?!
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on November 30, 2018, 10:21:24 AM
serious question...at what point do NorCal teams get tired of traveling all the way down to Socal just to get beat (sometimes really badly)? And thats not just AA...I mean look at the AAA 07,06,05 Jr Sharks - I dont think one of them have a win! And at what point do Socal teams get tired of playing junk Norcal teams...especially when they have to travel to the lovely Vacaville twice???


Prediction....GSE2 / Blackhawks get 1 win this weekend...combined.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on November 30, 2018, 10:32:33 AM
lastly....people complain about AAA or even AA and travel. If you are playing AA or AAA you are pushing your kid to be better and player better. Playing A level teams does nothing but actually HURT development. So, guess what - you want to play top teams and get better you have to LEAVE the state...and sadly mostly teams west of the Miss are not what I call "stiff" competition. Sorry CO, Utah, Texas, AZ...that is just fact. So, yes its crazy expensive to goto NY, MA, Chicago or Canada but if your kid is playing Tier level hockey this is what you signed up for and what you should want. Dont like it? There is nothing wrong playing A level for your local club.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on November 30, 2018, 10:35:04 AM
Oh ok I lied...ONE more thing. There are GREAT kids in Norcal...SUPER talent. Jr Sharks should be ashamed at what an embarrassment they are.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: keepdrinkinthekoolaid on November 30, 2018, 10:40:19 AM
Oh ok I lied...ONE more thing. There are GREAT kids in Norcal...SUPER talent. Jr Sharks should be ashamed at what an embarrassment they are.
Well said socalhockeydad & completely agree with all 3 of your posts! 

you do realize this forum has a modify button allowing you to modify and combine those thoughts, correct?

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Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on November 30, 2018, 10:57:40 AM
What fun is that? Better to just flood the boards with my comments and rants....all in separate posts.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: lcadad on November 30, 2018, 12:10:49 PM
serious question...at what point do NorCal teams get tired of traveling all the way down to Socal just to get beat (sometimes really badly)? And thats not just AA...I mean look at the AAA 07,06,05 Jr Sharks - I dont think one of them have a win! And at what point do Socal teams get tired of playing junk Norcal teams...especially when they have to travel to the lovely Vacaville twice???


I came to the conclusion last year, that the SCAHA teams get very little out of membership in CAHA and would be better off if they just pulled out.  Of course there is a lot of overlap between CAHA and SCAHA, so it's highly unlikely anything will change.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on November 30, 2018, 12:39:12 PM
serious question...at what point do NorCal teams get tired of traveling all the way down to Socal just to get beat (sometimes really badly)? And thats not just AA...I mean look at the AAA 07,06,05 Jr Sharks - I dont think one of them have a win! And at what point do Socal teams get tired of playing junk Norcal teams...especially when they have to travel to the lovely Vacaville twice???


I came to the conclusion last year, that the SCAHA teams get very little out of membership in CAHA and would be better off if they just pulled out.  Of course there is a lot of overlap between CAHA and SCAHA, so it's highly unlikely anything will change.


1000% Agree - NorCal dont even have a website! What is this 1998? Isnt the San Jose area the tech hub of the world? Cant some parent who works at google create a site or something? Another embarrassment.


SCAHA isnt perfect but we have a ton of kids, some really good teams (nationally) and hot moms (looking at you OC). SCAHA will never split from CAHA...but my fix? Make the CAHA president from Socal...that way any socal bias would at least be warranted.


****UPDATE**** someone alerted me to the norcal site Www.norcalyouthhockey.org the CAHA website links to Www.norcalyouthhockey.com....so my apologizes for that mistake, but at the same time, come on CAHA
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Bear71 on November 30, 2018, 09:24:30 PM
Big game tonight, GSE2 vs. JK1.
Lets see if the outcome is any different from when JK1 were the Patriots early this year.
Will it be box wine or grape juice?!


Kirkland Grape Juice.  7-1 and it wasn't that close.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: overHEATed on December 01, 2018, 10:01:30 PM
CAHA weekend and no life on this forum.
Other than the great northern hope (GSE2) getting demolished by JK1 not a peep or score updates!
Wonder how the PWA forum is doing???
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on December 02, 2018, 09:51:32 AM
Congrats to the NorCal teams for doing worse than my projection! 0-5-1...ouch. At least they leave knowing they both played hard and clean hockey...oh wait, did you see that Blackhawks Kings game? Wowza.


Well, at least they have the horrible jr Sharks to beat. Which one will be crowned king of the north? Which is like winning a ugly wife contest...yes you won but your wife is ugly.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: NotfromSoCal on December 02, 2018, 03:24:57 PM
Hey SoCalHockeyDud, before we can discuss this weekend I really think you better go get a fresh pair of shorts on.  Based on your level of excitement, I am very sure you soiled yourself.  It’s all part of a bigger plan my brother.  GSE is going to be just fine, don’t you worry your pretty little head off or you might drop your purple tiara. 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on December 02, 2018, 06:39:00 PM
I appreciate you responding to my excitement.  :-*
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Bear71 on December 02, 2018, 07:47:55 PM
It was a big number, you got that right.  As for the rosters, not so much.  Not even close for either team.  You can’t even say these are the same teams that played on Memorial weekend.  Do you have anymore irrelevant information to share?
Here is some more irrelevant information.  GSE2 got pasted by the Kings 7-1 Friday night, got outshot 40-21 (generous tally count for GSE in my opinion) and if they aren’t lucky, will end up 5th in the standings to find themselves in the same pool as the Kings and Ice Dogs 2 in the playdowns, almost guaranteeing that they will be gracious hosts and allow their guests to march on to Escondido.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: DEFENDERS on December 27, 2018, 02:11:08 PM
[font=]Insiders tell me: Ice Dogs-1 AA beat Wave-1 A= 4 to 0.[/font]
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 2 Cups in LA on December 28, 2018, 08:34:01 AM
Go to the Tinseltown site to get all your score updates!    Ice Dogs1 PWAA team should take the tournament...
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Bear71 on December 28, 2018, 09:02:13 AM
Go to the Tinseltown site to get all your score updates!    Ice Dogs1 PWAA team should take the tournament...


Way to go out on a limb with that prediction, given ID 1 is the only AA Flight 1  team in the field.  Did you also take the sun to rise in the East today as part of your parlay?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 2 Cups in LA on December 28, 2018, 09:37:32 AM
"Oh come on Bear 71"  The teams entered are weak PWAA flight II teams & couple PWA teams.  Unless that Montreal team is any good?  ID1 should have no problem winning the tournament.   
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: HockeyDad123 on January 06, 2019, 09:16:31 PM
Well that was quite the CAHA weekend in Riverside and not ONE post...Let's recap:
No refs were scheduled. GSE goes 3 and 0. Kings go 1 and 2. Empire goes 0 and 2 giving the Blackhawks their first win of the CAHA season. So as it sits the final weekend in Vacahell will actually matter...interesting.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Bear71 on January 06, 2019, 09:38:45 PM
I understand that math is hard, but the Kings went 1-2.  And bringing up Empire???  Is that your measuring stick?  The only thing Vacaville will determine is who is left in 9th place.


Congratulations to Ice Dogs 1 on their shellacking of the Kings in a must win game.  It was impressive of the #2 team in Flight 1. Too bad the refs didn't let the kids decide their game against the Wave today.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: HockeyDad123 on January 06, 2019, 10:01:12 PM
Bear71,


Edited for your pleasure. And maybe you think math is hard since you think Vacaville will only determine the bottom of the flight. There is a race for the top with 3 teams. Would not count any of them out. Mathematically speaking, any one of them could end up on top after the last CAHA weekend.


Empire is relevant as they will also be in the playoffs. Maybe just an off weekend for them?


Not sure the ref reference about the wave/dog game. Didn't see it so I guess you will have to fill us in on that.


GSE looked good this weekend so must give them credit. No one on this board seems to show them any love but they have some talented players.


You sound a little angry. Is it because break is over? Chill, lots of hockey to come sir. 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: TheFourthA on January 07, 2019, 10:33:23 AM
Sorry Bear, but the refs didn’t decide the ID1/Wave game.  The late penalties were obvious calls that  left a kid down for several minutes.  They were bad penalties to boot, taken deep in the Wave’s own offensive zone late in a tie game. ID1 then converted on the power play; frankly, the Wave were fortunate that they weren’t flagged for levelling the kid who scored on that power play.  As far as ID1 being the number 2 team in Flight 1, I am not so sure about that.  All season long I would have said it was a coin flip between the Kings and Dogs, and now GSE and the Gulls seem to be putting it together at the right time.  Both upcoming trips to Vacaville should be interesting.


Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: HockeyDad123 on January 07, 2019, 11:03:24 AM
FourthA,


Could not agree with you more about Vacaville. Really good teams finding their stride at the right time of the season. Going to make for a really good finish followed by playdowns.


I would also add that Kings1 won't be losing 2 in a row again. That is a solid team and I am sure they will re-group and be back on the roll in Buffalo next week. No doubt playing that competition will benefit them as it does all teams that dare to step out of the CA bubble. 

Any other teams heading to MLK tourneys?


Heard a rumor the Wave applied for 06 AAA next year. Perhaps planning to combine the better 06s from their A team and their AA team. Any truth to this?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: HockeyDad123 on January 07, 2019, 02:34:44 PM
Defenders,


Pretty bold statement that NO ONE from the A team would play for that team. I think this is the time of year people start "feeling around" for next season. There are very few teams that actually stay together from year to year. VERY FEW.


As for coaching, I have NO idea. I don't know if the rumor is true or not. That is why I posed the question. Anyone?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: DEFENDERS on January 07, 2019, 03:28:15 PM

So if  this rumor is true a coaching staff has already been picked. Who????????????


Tier I Application



The below requirements must be met for any club to apply for Tier 1 status:
 
Information to be supplied with application:
 

3. Coaching Information
i. Proposed coaching staff.
ii. Strength & Conditioning coach (Yes or No).
iii. Billet Coordinator (Yes or No).
 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: HockeyDad123 on January 07, 2019, 04:00:24 PM
Defenders,


Since you are obviously a Wave parent you would know best. If it is just a rumor than nothing to freak out about. You are right about kids making the jump from A to AAA but it has been done. Pretty sure the 06 AAA Ducks have an A goalie from last year. This is not an unheard of concept.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: TheFourthA on January 15, 2019, 05:29:03 PM
HockeyDad, Ice Dogs 1 is headed to Boston for MLK weekend.  Good luck in Buffalo.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: HockeyDad123 on January 15, 2019, 07:17:14 PM
4th A-


Boston has A LOT of 06 teams attending. It looks like 3 divisions worth. Assuming Elite is the highest? And AAA is the lowest? Why are Ducks 1 two divisions below Dogs. Seems odd since they play close games. Or are the Ducks desperate for a tourney win and the Dogs are just looking for some good competition? Or maybe I am incorrect as to how the teams are divided. I did a quick glance with no research so who knows.


Either way, good luck to both teams!
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: TheFourthA on January 16, 2019, 09:40:53 AM
From what I heard, the tournament used records and my hockey rankings to decide which division to assign teams to.  Dogs are currently ranked 4th in the country, and Ducks 118.  I think it goes Elite, AAA, and then Select.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: HockeyDad123 on January 23, 2019, 02:13:54 PM
Congrats to Dogs 1 and Kings 1 for their MLK results; each moved up in the rankings, #3 and #5 respectively. Unfortunately for Ducks 1 they moved down based on their results.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: PuckMonster on January 23, 2019, 02:51:48 PM
Congrats to Dogs 1 and Kings 1 for their MLK results; each moved up in the rankings, #3 and #5 respectively. Unfortunately for Ducks 1 they moved down based on their results.


Congrats for the Kings moving up despite being on a 7 game losing streak.  Congrats to the Ice Dogs for actually winning 1 at the tourney, while also losing 4 of their last 5.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: NotfromSoCal on January 23, 2019, 03:03:01 PM
What is really unfortunate is that the SoCal folks who went and bought Rams car wraps and became fans after that blown call will get to enjoy the Super Bowl on AM Sports 1140 while driving back to LA on I-5 from Vacaville.  PSA: There are reasonably priced rooms available in Solano County so please don't drink and drive!
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: HockeyDad123 on January 23, 2019, 03:47:15 PM
PuckMonster,

7 game losing streak against some of the BEST teams in the nation...I will take it.


NotFromSoCal,


Hopefully some of the families were smart enough to fly. Unless you got stuck with the 1:30 pm game. Ouch!
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: TheFourthA on January 24, 2019, 10:16:20 AM
PM, it is accurate that ID1 went 1-3 (all close games) playing at the elite level in Boston, but they have not lost 4 out of their last 5.  To find that fourth loss you have to go back to early December when they lost in OT in the finals in Vegas to the Golden Knights.  So it’s more like they have lost 4 of their last 14 games....
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on January 24, 2019, 02:45:33 PM
For a deeper look at how they did...


Ice Dogs went 1 3
lost 0-2 vs Boston Bandits (ranked #61 Tier 1)
Win 4-1 vs Providence (ranked #58 Tier 1)
lost 1-2 vs Middlesex Black (ranked #13 Tier 2)
loss 4-6 vs CT Condors (ranked #57 Tier 1)


Kings went 0 4


lost 1-2 vs Cle Barons (ranked #37 Tier 1)
lost 1-5 vs Boston Advantage (ranked #13 Tier 1)
lost 1-3 vs Hamilton Huskies (ranked #42 Ontario AAA)
loss 0-7 vs NJ Titans (ranked #15 Tier 1)
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: TheFourthA on January 24, 2019, 02:48:59 PM
The Condors - Dogs game was actually 6-4.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: HockeyDad123 on January 24, 2019, 03:47:41 PM
SoCal- So what you are trying to say is that both teams went out East and played competitive games against Tier 1 teams? Is there another CAHA team in Pee Wee AA that has played in a Tier 1 tournament this season? Funny how obsessed with the wins vs losses people are. Some parents look to see their teams/players challenged and not just search out the tournaments for the easy W. Funny how BOTH teams saw their ranking INCREASE after this. To each their own.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on January 24, 2019, 04:10:51 PM
SoCal- So what you are trying to say is that both teams went out East and played competitive games against Tier 1 teams? Is there another CAHA team in Pee Wee AA that has played in a Tier 1 tournament this season? Funny how obsessed with the wins vs losses people are. Some parents look to see their teams/players challenged and not just search out the tournaments for the easy W. Funny how BOTH teams saw their ranking INCREASE after this. To each their own.


I actually agree with you - I was just pointing out who they played because just looking at results and "levels" doesn't tell the full story. And your point about ranking increasing shows how its not just about W or L, its about who you play.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: NotfromSoCal on January 24, 2019, 04:16:18 PM
With all due respect, do you consider 5-1 and 7-0 losses being competitive?  So that means the 6-0 win over the Santa Clara Blackhawks was a competitive game as was the 9-1 shellacking the ID1 put on the Kings.  To each their own.  What were the SOG comparisons on these games.  To put things into perspective, scoring .75 goals per game sounds like maybe the teams were just toying with the Kings.  You can put any spin or fake news on this you want to draw up without more info.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on January 24, 2019, 06:34:06 PM
I'm sorry this is a Top 5 conversation...when GSE beats someone other than the Blackhawks or flight 2 teams then you will be allowed at the adult table.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: alfirst on January 24, 2019, 07:58:34 PM
Just to stir things a little - GSE beat ID2 twice...
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on January 24, 2019, 08:29:25 PM
GSE has 1 win against a team with a winning record...beating ID2 twice isnt stirring anything.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: NotfromSoCal on January 24, 2019, 10:04:21 PM
Let me start out by saying I know you are all good people and what follows is nothing personal.  Any parent who is as committed as all of us are to our kids are to be commended.  So well done!!!


I am going to leave the Ice Dogs out of this because frankly, that’s not a team you want to upset before facing them in the State finals.


As for this trip the Kings took back East.  There were two decent teams that were faced and losing 5-1 and 7-0 can hardly be considered competitive.  There are only 90ish tier 1 teams so to lose to the #37 team is meh at best as that team is barely ranked higher than the AAA Sharks.  Would you be bragging if you lost to the tier 1 Sharks?  So let’s take a look at the Hamilton Huskies.  They are ranked #42 out of #56 in Ontario League.  I just answered my own question.  They are the Sharks of Ontario and you are bragging about losing to them.  They are 11-32-10 with a minus 98 goal diff.  Congratulations only losing 3-1 and still moving up in the rankings.


With a little bit of math and a little bit of science, it isn’t hard to see that if you play AAA teams and lose every game even if not competitive your ranking will go up.  I think playing teams better than your own team is a great thing and great learning for the kids.  But let’s get real here.  Losing to bad AAA teams and then try to tie that to an increase in rankings is like saying if the Ducks 1 play enough games, they will somehow be a good team. They do now have some kids in the top 10 in stats after playing 436 games or something like that so congratulations to those little guys.


My hockey rankings are fun to see but there are so many missing scores from teams that don’t care about this stuff it is far from perfect.  It’s the best system available so grateful to have it.  Strength of schedule is the number 1 driver in the rankings.  All you have to do to be #1 is play half of the season against mediocre teams and win by 7 goals or more, then play the other half against higher tier teams and lose to drive strength of schedule.  Win win win!!!


Congratulations on traveling to play in a good tournament but let’s not get too carried away.  Those results aren’t good.  Still waiting on the answer to the SOG question from earlier on these games.  My hunch is they were pretty swayed to the East which is why no response.


Any team in Flight 1 can win on any given day and the rest of the season should be fun!  See you all in Vacaville!  Safe travels, especially if you try to land at Nut Tree Internationals Airport!
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: alfirst on January 24, 2019, 10:26:05 PM



If GSE beats someone other than the Blackhawks or flight 2 teams then you will be allowed at the adult table.


You posted that - I gave you an example, that's it. ID2 are no Blackhawks neither flight 2 - middle of the pack flight 1. Just won tournament in Phoenix.
I am not from GSE, not from ID2 - so just an observation...



Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: NotfromSoCal on January 25, 2019, 03:59:27 AM
Fair enough.  Thank you for keeping a seat open at the adult table.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: TheFourthA on January 25, 2019, 09:09:00 AM
If you do the math, you will likely find that the Kings rise in the rankings was a function of their past results, and not the results from Buffalo.  For the moment, at least, those are a slight drag on their rating.  Haven’t done the math for the Dogs, but I suspect the same is likely true for them as well.


The ratings may have some hypothetical flaws, but it’s not a system that is easy to game.  From what I have seen this year, most of the teams pass the eye test of their ratings, and the ratings generally correlate.  It’s not too much of a surprise that a great AA team is likely to lose and perhaps even badly to a great AAA team; I would put more stock in the fact that the Kings played a competitive game against a top 20 AAA team than the apparently non competitive game against a similar team.



Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: HockeyGuy-99 on January 30, 2019, 09:27:55 AM
What's up guys!  Anyone have any plans this weekend?  Any hockey games scheduled?   ???
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 2 Cups in LA on January 30, 2019, 01:44:05 PM
Just slumming in Vacaville over the weekend!
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 6607 on January 31, 2019, 06:05:57 AM
After NotFromSoCall's post, I am looking forward to GSE 2 v. Kings.  Also, Empire/Wave and ID1/Gulls, each of which could have an impact on final standings going into playdowns.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: NotfromSoCal on January 31, 2019, 09:50:31 AM
Should be a great weekend but lots of rain up North...  Travel safe!!!
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: TheFourthA on February 01, 2019, 06:13:00 AM
A couple of impactful flight 2 games as well.  Ducks(2) v Maple Leads and Kings (2) v Maple Leafs.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: HockeyDad123 on February 04, 2019, 09:34:11 AM
So that's a wrap on the CAHA regular season.


JK1 and ID1 tie for 1st. Seems appropriate considering the seasons they both had.


Wave has a chance to push the Ducks 1 to the cellar and avoid the infamous "play in" game and can't beat the Blackhawks to get it done. Too bad, as it would have been great to see Ducks 1 vs Ducks 2. At least the Blackhawks get to end a very rough season with a W.


Nice W for GSE beating the Gulls. Adult table anyone?


Some odd wins and losses to end the season but could just be fatigue. Some of these teams have put in a 50 plus game season already and there are still tournaments and playoffs to come.


February should bring some great hockey.








 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on February 05, 2019, 08:21:41 AM
I would like to congratulate the Ice Dogs on getting a AAA 06 team for next year. I know the process to get approval is crazy and painful...so kudos for them for putting in the work and getting it. IMO - with combining some players from ID1 and ID2 they will field a competitive team and might be able to fight for 2nd place next season.


I am rooting for them to show CAHA once again how shitty their system is...do it for the 05 Saints (who might get a AAA team?) and the 04 Bears and all the other talented teams of the past who didnt get to play at the level they deserved. Its a joke when the Jr Sharks get a tier 1 team every year but most are NOT competitive at all....this season from bantam major down the Jr Sharks are 1-24 with a -131 GD!! Yes, its beating a dead horse but thats straight up embarrassing.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: HockeyDad123 on February 05, 2019, 08:53:53 AM
SoCal, I will second your congrats and add that there are probably a player or 2 at Wave, Gulls, Ducks, Empire, Kings 1 (more than 2 at Kings 1), etc (outside of just the current ID players) that could make that team if given the chance. It will be interesting to see what kind of group they can build for next season. Having AAA players sprinkled at different clubs leaves a door open for those kids now that would not have had a chance to break through the political barriers at Ducks or Kings AAA. It is good for hockey in SoCal and pretty wild they were granted a team when so many have tried and failed in the past.


As for the Saints 05 getting AAA, not sure if this is just a rumor. I believe they had to apply and there was a vote last weekend to decide. Sounds like it is a nightmare process if you are not a NHL club.


Maybe some of the talented GSE and Blackhawks players will tryout for the Sharks program next year? Seems if they combine kids they could field a much better 06 AAA team. Not sure why that program has stalled.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: PuckMonster on February 05, 2019, 10:47:50 AM
Couple reasons why the Sharks Program overall has failed and will continue to fail..
1.  Money..  It is all about the money the program brings in.  San Jose is the 10th largest city in the nation so with that you should field a good team but NO.
2.  Parent Coaching at all levels.  I understand this is the way in hockey at many levels but AAA and AA.  HMMMMMM.   Even having parent coaches that are former NHL players is a joke if you are losing.
3.  Shared ice time.  No full ice practices despite 4 sheets of ice.
4.  Pride/Stupidity.  We all see the amount of games that SoCal plays out of Caha.  They play each other without fear of losses and as a consequence the teams in the south gel as the season goes on while the Sharks......Not so much.  The Sharks AAA refuse to play any AA team in the north for fear the MONEY coming in might see the true writing on the wall elsewhere(IE. GSE or others)


It would be great if NORCAL/CAHA and others would straighten out this sham but alas with star power coaching, let the records continue to show the misguided leadership around the Sharks Money Grab.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: TheFourthA on February 09, 2019, 08:06:50 AM
When is the play in game between the Wave and Ducks 2?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: HockeyDad123 on February 09, 2019, 04:02:25 PM
Since the Wave are busy in Vernon going 0-4 I am going to guess not this weekend...?

Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: JackBender on February 10, 2019, 02:45:23 PM
Check out other thread... CAHA/Ducks 2 forcing the game to be played today. Some kids coming back early today, missing the last day of the tournament. Wave will ice 6 kids. 6 versus 17. To make the playoffs. That seems very much within the guidelines of logic and sportsmanship. 


Again, returning to our Bantam discussions about the biased sham that is CAHA... this furthers the evidence in the pile of them all being total idiots. Led by the #1 Boob, CAHA President, Tom Hancock. How is this good nurturing the game? How is this good for the kids/parents/clubs or even remotely fair competition? Couldn't move the game a day?  Two?  Had to be played today... even though Vacaville play downs aren't for two weeks?


6 kids will be there to play. Having left rural Canada before sunrise this morning... being forced to play a play-in game. Forced. Under severe threats of suspensions and Tier bans.  Good job, CAHA. You've proved once again that you're all total assholes.     
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: lcadad on February 10, 2019, 03:12:24 PM
Check out other thread... CAHA/Ducks 2 forcing the game to be played today. Some kids coming back early today, missing the last day of the tournament. Wave will ice about 6 kids.


Again, returning to our Bantam discussions about the biased sham that is CAHA... they're all idiots. Led by the #1 Boob, Tom Hancock. How is this good for the kids/parents/clubs or remotely fair competition? 6 kids will be there to play. Having left rural Canada before sunrise this morning... being forced to play a play-in game. Forced. Under severe threats of suspensions and Tier bans.   


Well, I heard that in Bantams Flight2 Kings1 beat Flight1 Kings2, so that brings the tally of Flight2 vs Flight1 playins @ 3-1.   This should help them get it back to 3-2.  Winning!


Oh, and congrats Kings1 and good luck in the Playdowns.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Stanley on February 11, 2019, 03:20:51 PM
Check out other thread... CAHA/Ducks 2 forcing the game to be played today. Some kids coming back early today, missing the last day of the tournament. Wave will ice 6 kids. 6 versus 17. To make the playoffs. That seems very much within the guidelines of logic and sportsmanship. 


Again, returning to our Bantam discussions about the biased sham that is CAHA... this furthers the evidence in the pile of them all being total idiots. Led by the #1 Boob, CAHA President, Tom Hancock. How is this good nurturing the game? How is this good for the kids/parents/clubs or even remotely fair competition? Couldn't move the game a day?  Two?  Had to be played today... even though Vacaville play downs aren't for two weeks?


6 kids will be there to play. Having left rural Canada before sunrise this morning... being forced to play a play-in game. Forced. Under severe threats of suspensions and Tier bans.  Good job, CAHA. You've proved once again that you're all total assholes.   


It looks like one of the Canadian teams kindly loaned the Wave half its roster so they could play their final game in the Vernon tournament, while simultaneously playing that play-in game in California.  What great sportsmanship.  Kudos to the Yellowknife Wolfpack!
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: TheFourthA on February 11, 2019, 04:00:15 PM
Scoresheet just shows 7 Wave players.  Looks like they literally split the squad between last games in Canada and a last stand in CAHA.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: SkatingDad on February 11, 2019, 04:19:35 PM
Pathetic, CAHA hates the Wave...
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 4 Days a Week on February 11, 2019, 05:00:23 PM
Very gracious of our Canadian friends. I can only imagine the conversation that took place in Vernon when the California team was explaining to the Canadians how CAHA runs hockey in CA.


All those other Peewee teams eventually returned home and told everyone at their home rinks how mismanaged CA hockey is.


Shameful and embarrassing.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: SkatingDad on February 12, 2019, 02:48:28 PM
I would imagine that the first obstacle was for the Canadians was to understand flighting AA.  Every single hockey person I have tried to explain flighting to does not understand.  It usually is a 30-45 minute conversation that ends with them shaking their heads.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on February 13, 2019, 01:53:04 PM
Article from our hockey brothers up north about the Wave issue from Vernon....


https://cabinradio.ca/13326/news/sports/yk-team-rescues-california-rivals-at-hockey-tournament/
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: JackBender on February 13, 2019, 02:19:15 PM

Article from our hockey brothers up north about the Wave issue from Vernon....


https://cabinradio.ca/13326/news/sports/yk-team-rescues-california-rivals-at-hockey-tournament/ (https://cabinradio.ca/13326/news/sports/yk-team-rescues-california-rivals-at-hockey-tournament/)

Wow.  It made Canadian news. Shameful, CAHA. Shameful.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: SkatingDad on February 13, 2019, 02:46:50 PM
“When I found out what was going on, I knew it would turn into a slaughter, said Wolfpack coach Darren Wicks. We were going to have parents and children upset, kids probably crying. There is no growth or development by doing that."
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Strawman on February 13, 2019, 03:07:57 PM
“When I found out what was going on, I knew it would turn into a slaughter, said Wolfpack coach Darren Wicks. We were going to have parents and children upset, kids probably crying. There is no growth or development by doing that."


At the next CAHA Board meeting this will be spun as a success story, no doubt:  "[size=78%]CAHA scandal succeeds in drawing international attention to California hockey."[/size]
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Hockey sophist on February 13, 2019, 03:23:04 PM
Good people on both sides of the border overcame dysfunctional administration.  The Canadian team may visit the Wave next season.   That story would be much bigger and better than CAHA rule enforcement.       
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: JackBender on February 13, 2019, 03:42:10 PM
Oh, it’s not over yet CAHA... another news article on your boneheaded petty political games from the host city, Vernon, BC.  Congrats! Now you’re recognized as International baffoons!!!  🤣🤣🤣


https://www.vernonmorningstar.com/news/vernon-tournament-creates-cross-border-friendships/ (https://www.vernonmorningstar.com/news/vernon-tournament-creates-cross-border-friendships/)
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: keepdrinkinthekoolaid on February 13, 2019, 03:51:55 PM
WOWZA!
Yellowknife is not even in one of the seven provinces, it is in the Northwest Territories.  Meaning, they are as far North of Vernon, BC Canada as Artesia, CA USA is South.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: JackBender on February 13, 2019, 04:15:08 PM
Oh no!!! A THIRD article on the CAHA debacle!! Time for another emergency meeting to spin this one!! Hope Pacific District or USA Hockey doesn’t get a whiff of this hot pile of steaming mess!!


Tom, line one... it’s your boss. 😦




https://nnsl.com/yellowknifer/a-fun-finish-for-wolfpack-peewees-at-b-c-tournament/ (https://nnsl.com/yellowknifer/a-fun-finish-for-wolfpack-peewees-at-b-c-tournament/)
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: ScottyB#22 on February 14, 2019, 08:16:54 AM
This Wave / Canada thing is disgusting. Somebody needs to get canned for allowing this to happen. 
The CAHA guy in charge of youth tier hockey is Kevin Culbertson. Maybe He needs to hear from us, a lot of us?. We are his “customers”. Dispute  resolution is handled by Rosemary

Rosemary Voulelikas
1st Vice President; Executive Committee; Disciplinary/Dispute Resolution Committee, High School Commissioner; Youth Council; Girls and Womens, and Youth Tournament Committees
533 Concord Street
El Segundo, CA 90245
310-322-1465 (https://www.calhockey.com/tel:310-322-1465) (phone)
rvoulelikas@gmail.com (rvoulelikas@gmail.com?subject=CAHA)

Kevin Culbertson
Board of Directors; Boys Tier Commissioner; Youth Council; Youth Tournament Committee; Web Administrator
913 Vista Via Drive
Healdsburg, CA 95448
707-721-2872 (https://www.calhockey.com/tel:707-721-2872) (phone)
bclboard@yahoo.com (bclboard@yahoo.com?subject=CAHA)
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Hockey05 on February 14, 2019, 08:47:23 AM
You can’t expect all teams to not plan for a weekend travel tournament on the chance that one of them may have a play in game. 
I’d love to see if any threats were made to the club in writing.
This should have been worked out and with the complaint maybe parents will forward their change of ticket bill.
If nothing else they should have been allowed to forfeit the game.
As we all plan our exit or outright walking away from this sport in California, I hope CAHA pauses to ponder all the mistakes before moving forward. Time and again players and families aren’t being put first.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: KickSave on February 14, 2019, 09:19:29 AM
Agree forfeit should have been an option. And the opposing team could have still used the ice for a scrimmage, if that was an issue. I’m amazed by all of this - is there something we’re all missing from this story?

Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: area51 on February 14, 2019, 09:22:52 AM
Oh no!!! A THIRD article on the CAHA debacle!! Time for another emergency meeting to spin this one!! Hope Pacific District or USA Hockey doesn’t get a whiff of this hot pile of steaming mess!!


Tom, line one... it’s your boss. 😦




https://nnsl.com/yellowknifer/a-fun-finish-for-wolfpack-peewees-at-b-c-tournament/ (https://nnsl.com/yellowknifer/a-fun-finish-for-wolfpack-peewees-at-b-c-tournament/)
and this is what youth sports should be all about
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Rats13 on February 14, 2019, 09:28:37 AM
It's amazing that the flight 2 team IS allow to decline to play the "play-in" game and give the spot to the other team while the flight 1 team is not.
I feel bad for the families who had to pony up the $ to leave early to play the playoff game with 7 kids.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Bear71 on February 14, 2019, 10:11:29 AM
What makes this situation even better is that the Ducks 2 team had a SCAHA game scheduled against Pasadena for the same day as the play-in game.  Guess what happened to that game?  If you guessed it was cancelled, you are a winner. 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 6607 on February 22, 2019, 06:09:55 AM
Six pages of posts slamming CAHA but no one wants to talk actual hockey with play downs starting today?  Who does everyone like in Dogs 2/GSE?  Should be a fun game to watch.  I like Dogs 2 in that game but like both to make playoffs.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: NotfromSoCal on February 22, 2019, 09:31:47 AM
Just curious on why you “like” ID2 in this one?  Should be a good game but GSE is 3-0 vs ID2 including jamboree.  It could certainly go either way but what is your rationale? 

Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: 6607 on February 22, 2019, 11:56:49 AM
I like the way Dogs 2 has played in the last month or so, and the look they have thrown out there.  I wouldn’t criticize anyone for picking Gse, either.  Some interesting coaching decisions for both teams in this game. 
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: NotfromSoCal on February 22, 2019, 02:44:05 PM
Fair enough.  Dogs have definitely improved.  Should be a good game.  GSE is faster and Dogs are more physical.  Good luck everyone!
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: overHEATed on February 23, 2019, 10:39:08 PM
ID1 and Kings1 moved on, no surprises there. Who is left to fight another day?
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: TheFourthA on February 24, 2019, 06:46:15 AM
ID2 plays Ducks 1 and GSE plays the Gulls
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: overHEATed on February 24, 2019, 08:08:13 AM
ID2 plays Ducks 1 and GSE plays the Gulls


Ducks should get their early vacation started today.
The other game, tough to call. GSE2 are breakaway specialist, Gulls control that, they will get the W.
Best of luck to the remaining teams.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: socalhockeydad on February 24, 2019, 05:01:13 PM
Good call overHEATed.


Congrats to the 4 socal team making states.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: TheFourthA on March 16, 2019, 05:09:46 PM
Dogs 1 v. Dogs 2 tomorrow for the championship
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: keepdrinkinthekoolaid on March 16, 2019, 05:16:56 PM
CONGRATULATIONS Ice Dogs!

Pretty sure alot of us expected ID1 to be in the Finals.  Great job to the ID2 in beating the Jr Kings & Jr Gulls to earn your spot in tomorrow’s Final
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: TheFourthA on March 18, 2019, 07:48:23 AM
Congratulations to the Riley Dogs on winning the CAHA Championship.  This was a very talented, deep, hard working, and well coached team.  Great undefeated playoff run.


Congrats to Dogs 2, Kings and Gulls on great seasons.  Kings-Gulls in Friday night was a heck of a game.  A lot of great hockey players to be proud of.
Title: Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
Post by: Hockey sophist on March 18, 2019, 07:52:15 AM
Has any club ever put both teams in a PWAA CAHA final?  In any age group?   

That is awesome for the Ice Dogs.   Great work coaches, players and parents.