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Hockey Discussions => Midget Hockey => Topic started by: goonhockey on May 21, 2018, 02:28:08 PM
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what teams are being formed? who is/are the front runner(s)?
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Saints and Gulls are trying to form teams in SD.
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My kid has been to a few clinics... Wave, Ducks, and OC are all trying for 2 teams each. Clinic for Ducks 1 had the most numbers.
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No Oakland Bears teams in 16 AA or 18 AA.
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No Oakland Bears teams in 16 AA or 18 AA.
Do you know what teams there will be in NORCAL?
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Not sure what happened to my font size on last post. I know that the Oakland Bears are not going to a 16 AA or 18 AA team this year.
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GSE is having only 1 16 AA team as are the Blackhawks. Have't heard but I think the Sharks are having 1 team too. As for the 18 AA teams I posted that in the other thread.
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Sad to hear because Oakland had a solid 18AA team last season...
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Yeah GSE is doing a second team based out of San Francisco. Most of the Oakland players that are still eligible will be on that team.
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Sad to hear because Oakland had a solid 18AA team last season...
but their 16 team was not...
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After a strong showing last year it looks like Valencia has scattered to the wind and there will not likely be a 16AA. 14AA is also questionable from what I have been told.
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Still a mystery how that program can't seem to get off the ground and stay afloat. Many areas would kill to have a facility like that in their backyard.
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After a strong showing last year it looks like Valencia has scattered to the wind and there will not likely be a 16AA. 14AA is also questionable from what I have been told.
Heard Valencia lost some kids to THA??????
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After a strong showing last year it looks like Valencia has scattered to the wind and there will not likely be a 16AA. 14AA is also questionable from what I have been told.
Heard Valencia lost some kids to THA? ??? ??
yes, their (and CAHAs) top two from last year I believe...
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Their 02 goalie is also going to THA.
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Bantams actually look pretty good right now. Midgets are a complete wildcard.
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California Heat is also trying to put a 16UAA team together for 18-19. New Coach - new strategy. I guess it will depend on how their tournament team does in Valencia this weekend.
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CahaMama = aka GoGo..........??
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California Heat is also trying to put a 16UAA team together for 18-19. New Coach - new strategy. I guess it will depend on how their tournament team does in Valencia this weekend.
Game one didn't go so well yesterday. 7-0 loss. At one point I think they were being out shot something like 20-2. Bears were also missing several players.
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are the bears going to have a 16AA team?
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Wouldn't that be interesting...
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Nope. They are not.
They only have one sheet of ice, so it's an issue as it is.
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A Blackhawk parent told me during Carmen Star that there will only be 3 teams in NORCAL... sharks, Blackhawks, and GSE. She also said that the sharks lost most of the 03s they had and should be a weak team... Blackhawks looked very strong.
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A Blackhawk parent told me during Carmen Star that there will only be 3 teams in NORCAL... sharks, Blackhawks, and GSE. She also said that the sharks lost most of the 03s they had and should be a weak team... Blackhawks looked very strong.
so who will be tops in norcal then, blackhawks or gse?
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Funny, I heard nearly the exact opposite although admittedly second / third hand. My friend said the Sharks will be the best AA team up north. The reason the 03s left was because they might not have made the 16AA team as it was heavy 02. Neither GSE or SC looked strong on paper. Best players at GSE, SC went AAA at both 15 and 16 levels.
In general, 16AA is a tough level talent wise (as opposed to 12AA and 14AA). By now kids are starting to decide if hockey is really worth it to them anymore in California. I think many decide it is AAA, prep school or bust. Otherwise it makes more sense to drop back to A/B or HS and enjoy playing with friends. That leaves 16AA light in level of play.
In any case....that’s why they play the games. Looking forward to the season.
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It's all guessing at this point... just passing on info I got... she was basing it off what she knew of the 14Us moving up.. her son was on the sharks 14AA last season and she said the team completely dissolved over what she called horrible coaching.
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25 kids on the ice right now for Ducks 02 team... handful of 03s out there.
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25 kids on the ice right now for Ducks 02 team... handful of 03s out there.
did last years team splinter? assume some made the move to triple?
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I don't know anything about the 02s from last year... so cant answer that... I did see that a couple of 02s from OC made the team as well as an 03 from OC. 19 kids made the team... 18 skaters and 6 goalies for the #2 team tryout... only 12 signed.. rest were asked to come back Saturday.
Heard that 35 kids showed to tryout for both wave teams.
Any other info out there?
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14 SCAHA teams declared for next season... did they all get enough players?
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How did the Valencia 16AA tryouts go? Are they going to field a team?
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It sounds like there will be 16 teams. Will CAHA still have two flights or drop teams down from AA to A level?
How is the Kings 16AA team looking? Are they fielding a team or are they just blowing smoke?
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Yes Kings do have a team.
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Good news to hear about the Kings! They have been neglecting the AA's for too long. ;D
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Of the 14 teams declared in SoCal, at least 4 are still looking for players including Heat, Wave, Empire, Jr Reign and one OC team is A level at best. Seems like at this level more kids are playing High School and just having fun with it or heading out of town. Unless the High School and Travel leagues get together like they do in Minnesota and some areas back east and split the seasons up, travel below AAA at this level is doomed. Tough nut to crack but if it cost 3-4K for High School and 3-4K for travel there would be way more interest in doing both IMO. Interesting discussion here http://wpahockey.net/thread/127/hs-hockey-travel (http://wpahockey.net/thread/127/hs-hockey-travel)
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Of the 14 teams declared in SoCal, at least 4 are still looking for players including Heat, Wave, Empire, Jr Reign and one OC team is A level at best. Seems like at this level more kids are playing High School and just having fun with it or heading out of town. Unless the High School and Travel leagues get together like they do in Minnesota and some areas back east and split the seasons up, travel below AAA at this level is doomed. Tough nut to crack but if it cost 3-4K for High School and 3-4K for travel there would be way more interest in doing both IMO. Interesting discussion here http://wpahockey.net/thread/127/hs-hockey-travel (http://wpahockey.net/thread/127/hs-hockey-travel)
OC hockey seems pretty competitive... so, objectively, which is more competitive? 16AA or HS?
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In my observation the leakage continues out of club and into HS or out of state. If the club hockey quality isn't there at AA, they should drop the number of teams to save the system.
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In my observation the leakage continues out of club and into HS or out of state. If the club hockey quality isn't there at AA, they should drop the number of teams to save the system.
Your observation is correct, especially in the 2002 birth year. You can probably count the number of AA caliber 2002's still playing 16AA in So Cal on your ten fingers and ten toes. Many have left and/or are just playing HS.
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That's why the 02 teams took some 03s fo round out the rosters... there are even some 04s playing up. Problem for some of us is that if you're stuck with a D3 hs team then it's like playing inhouse or B hockey so you need the AA just to keep sane.
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That's why the 02 teams took some 03s fo round out the rosters... there are even some 04s playing up.
04's playing at U16 is dangerous and the coaches who recruited them are irresponsible and aren't looking out for the 04 kids' best interest if they're only trying to fill out their short rosters... The 04's parents should know better too. Sure, if your 04 is physically big/strong and skilled enough then maybe it's ok. But some of the 04's I've seen planning to play at U16AA this upcoming season are barely 130 lbs and although good players, but by no means superstar caliber that needs to play up prematurely.
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Your observation is correct, especially in the 2002 birth year. You can probably count the number of AA caliber 2002's still playing 16AA in So Cal on your ten fingers and ten toes. Many have left and/or are just playing HS.
It is sad that soo many parents of h.s. underclassmen feel compelled to send their kids out of state, but its a completely understandable result of CAHA's inept decision-making, highlighted by crunching AAA down to just JK and JD, and the AA flighting nonsense. AA is meant to be a pathway to AAA. When advancement to AAA is restricted to only two politicized organizations, kids with next level aspirations see they have better advancement options elsewhere. Adding insult to injury, JK haven't taken AA seriously since they pushed through minor birth year AAA, and then they killed the Titans, a club that as recently as the 95/96/97 birth years had a nice program that put over a dozen kids into the NCAA. Ducks are hurting AA by pimping ADHSHL instead of AA, which aside from OLU, St Margarita and a couple others remains a "A"-caliber league of make-believe "high school teams" (but at least kudos to them for reducing cost). As AA gets more watered down at Bantam/Midget, the effects will trickle up to AAA in a self-defeating cycle. Dumb.
btw, I actually think the idea of building a hs league to replace AA is the right way to go (lower cost, less travel, school spirit and all that), but it ain't there yet. They need a lot more pure teams, which requires a lot more kids playing through peewess and bantams. Four more ice sheets in Irvine should help. Eventually.
Having pure HS teams would be ideal, but I imagine rinks are the biggest inhibitor. OC actually has a lot of rinks (with new one coming!), but LA County is sparse. Can't see this being rectified, so was wondering what happened to the AAA teams? Meaning, just a few years ago the Heat, Wave, Wildcats and others all seemed to have AAA teams at PW up through Midget. I'm guess CAHA shut that down, consolidating talent to Kings/Ducks, but why? While that might make better big program teams, wouldn't that drive lots of kids out of state and to prep schools? Additionally, less kids playing Tier = less money, right? I'm sure it's complicated and nuanced... just curious, though.
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was wondering what happened to the AAA teams? Meaning, just a few years ago the Heat, Wave, Wildcats and others all seemed to have AAA teams at PW up through Midget. I'm guess CAHA shut that down, consolidating talent to Kings/Ducks, but why? While that might make better big program teams, wouldn't that drive lots of kids out of state and to prep schools? Additionally, less kids playing Tier = less money, right? I'm sure it's complicated and nuanced... just curious, though.
There is zero complication or nuance to what happened.
1. CAHA board is dominated by reps from Kings, Ducks & Sharks.
2. Three years ago, they passed a new rule limited AAA to 5 teams per birth year, instituted a whole host of requirements that must be met each season to qualify (most of which only the largest and best financed clubs -- i.e. Kings, Ducks & Sharks -- could meet), required any club wishing to field an AAA to go through an "approval" process each year, except that the three "NHL sponsored clubs (Kings, Ducks and Sharks) all get automatic approval. Ain't that rare?
3. Predictably, all of the clubs not named the Kings, Ducks and Sharks have given up on AAA rather than going through the onerous and obviously biased process.
4. The three clubs pushed this through in an effort to create an AAA monopoly up north (Sharks) and duopoly in SoCal. They succeeded.
5. The non unexpected result is that a lot of families who don't like limited choice at home are moving out of state. I predicted months ago that around three dozen of the top minor Midget kids in So Cal (2003s) will be playing out of the region next season (THA, Shattuck or back East). From what I am hearing lately, I may be low on my prediction. By getting greedy, the Kings and Ducks have wrecked the chances of building a quality Midget AAA hockey circuit in the southwest USA for this generation.
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was wondering what happened to the AAA teams? Meaning, just a few years ago the Heat, Wave, Wildcats and others all seemed to have AAA teams at PW up through Midget. I'm guess CAHA shut that down, consolidating talent to Kings/Ducks, but why? While that might make better big program teams, wouldn't that drive lots of kids out of state and to prep schools? Additionally, less kids playing Tier = less money, right? I'm sure it's complicated and nuanced... just curious, though.
There is zero complication or nuance to what happened.
1. CAHA board is dominated by reps from Kings, Ducks & Sharks.
2. Three years ago, they passed a new rule limited AAA to 5 teams per birth year, instituted a whole host of requirements that must be met each season to qualify (most of which only the largest and best financed clubs -- i.e. Kings, Ducks & Sharks -- could meet), required any club wishing to field an AAA to go through an "approval" process each year, except that the three "NHL sponsored clubs (Kings, Ducks and Sharks) all get automatic approval. Ain't that rare?
3. Predictably, all of the clubs not named the Kings, Ducks and Sharks have given up on AAA rather than going through the onerous and obviously biased process.
4. The three clubs pushed this through in an effort to create an AAA monopoly up north (Sharks) and duopoly in SoCal. They succeeded.
5. The non unexpected result is that a lot of families who don't like limited choice at home are moving out of state. I predicted months ago that around three dozen of the top minor Midget kids in So Cal (2003s) will be playing out of the region next season (THA, Shattuck or back East). From what I am hearing lately, I may be low on my prediction. By getting greedy, the Kings and Ducks have wrecked the chances of building a quality Midget AAA hockey circuit in the southwest USA for this generation.
Have a agree with knucklehead on this one. :)
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Sums it up
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Wow. That sounds incredibly short sighted... and lame. Yes, the big clubs consolidated control of the AAA divisions, and maybe a few teams got better at a national level, but with less options for kids, clearly, an unforeseen side effect is more leaving the state (and CAHA) after Bantams. I wonder if this is known, or if it will be corrected? I hear the Jr Kings were pushing the 18UAAA option hard to younger families in a clear mandate to stop the Midget bleeding, but the option feels half-baked. Money talks, and I'd guess the numbers are down big time statewide for Tier Midget hockey in CAHA. The exodus of Bears players post Bantams to prep schools/back east should be Exhibit A for change.
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was wondering what happened to the AAA teams? Meaning, just a few years ago the Heat, Wave, Wildcats and others all seemed to have AAA teams at PW up through Midget. I'm guess CAHA shut that down, consolidating talent to Kings/Ducks, but why? While that might make better big program teams, wouldn't that drive lots of kids out of state and to prep schools? Additionally, less kids playing Tier = less money, right? I'm sure it's complicated and nuanced... just curious, though.
There is zero complication or nuance to what happened.
1. CAHA board is dominated by reps from Kings, Ducks & Sharks.
2. Three years ago, they passed a new rule limited AAA to 5 teams per birth year, instituted a whole host of requirements that must be met each season to qualify (most of which only the largest and best financed clubs -- i.e. Kings, Ducks & Sharks -- could meet), required any club wishing to field an AAA to go through an "approval" process each year, except that the three "NHL sponsored clubs (Kings, Ducks and Sharks) all get automatic approval. Ain't that rare?
3. Predictably, all of the clubs not named the Kings, Ducks and Sharks have given up on AAA rather than going through the onerous and obviously biased process.
4. The three clubs pushed this through in an effort to create an AAA monopoly up north (Sharks) and duopoly in SoCal. They succeeded.
5. The non unexpected result is that a lot of families who don't like limited choice at home are moving out of state. I predicted months ago that around three dozen of the top minor Midget kids in So Cal (2003s) will be playing out of the region next season (THA, Shattuck or back East). From what I am hearing lately, I may be low on my prediction. By getting greedy, the Kings and Ducks have wrecked the chances of building a quality Midget AAA hockey circuit in the southwest USA for this generation.
Most insightful post I've read here in a while.
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Before CAHA implemented the limit on AAA teams, much of the talk was how "AAA is watered down in California". Lots of folks on this site were complaining that clubs were taking advantage of parents who were willing to pay-for-an-A and the end result was a number of teams that should not be playing at this level. You had real AAA caliber players sprinkled across many different teams and no one single team could compete with the better AAA teams from out of state.
At that point, CAHA could have either:
a. Done nothing
b. Try to implement a system that improves the situation
After years of getting roasted for choosing "a", they decided to try "b". Did they implement a perfect solution? Obviously not, but at least they're trying.
Look at 16AAA last season. 5 teams, of which only 2 ended the season in the top 100 nationally. I could argue that 5 AAA teams is too many. Are there really many more than 40 kids in this state born in 2001 that *should* be playing AAA.
Now - how do you pick which clubs get AAA teams? That's the tough one. If you're trying to build long-term national recognition, then I would think you would want to select clubs that have the highest probability of being around for a long time. Financial stability, name recognition, coaches with last names someone from the east coast would recognize. To me, that sounds like the clubs that have NHL backing. Is that *always* the case across every age group? Nope. But as a "brand", I think you need to have some consistency.
Does this system result in more kids leaving CA? I'm not sure that any more kids would stay if this situation was different. I don't think people are leaving for the sole reason of limited choices. If you live in Bakersfield, and you're kid is a true AAA player - what is more impacting? Driving to LA/OC or having your kid live with a different family across the country? I think people are leaving because they want their kid in a different (hockey) environment altogether.
The problem I *do* have is how some of the clubs allow their AAA teams to be run. Out of state recruiting should not be allowed if CAHA is going to put a hard limit on the number of teams. And you either tighten the PDR rules so that clubs are forced to develop more AA/A players or you eliminate the PDR all together.
Thoughts?
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The problem I *do* have is how some of the clubs allow their AAA teams to be run. Out of state recruiting should not be allowed if CAHA is going to put a hard limit on the number of teams. And you either tighten the PDR rules so that clubs are forced to develop more AA/A players or you eliminate the PDR all together.
Thoughts?
Very thoughtful and well stated. I'd argue that the 16AAA teams weren't very competitive because the top kids left long ago, which leads back to why? No one "wants" to leave. Every parent and kid looks to Minnesota with awe. Those kids are able to play locally through high school, staying with all their friends, their families, and the state has the highest number of NHL players. Their system works. Proven fact.
California has a lot of kids playing hockey. Travel around. Go out of state. We have athletes. Our kids can hang with every state. Look at the younger birth years. When they stay together, they're competitive throughout all of North America. A lack of kids playing is not the problem. Which leads us back to the governing body.
Your final point brings up something interesting. NoCal teams continue to grow weak every year as SoCal teams poach their top players. It's too easy, yet very short sighted. Teams consolidate, making for no competition, so kids leave. Very simple. So what if CAHA implemented boundaries like Minnesota, does that help?
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the ducks 16AAA was ranked #1 in the country most of last year! :o
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Leaving town is certainly becoming popular but so is ADHSL. I have a son who played both D1 ADHSL and 16AA club last season, so we had a unique perspective. The level of play in the D1 ADHSL games was every bit as competitive as 16AA and/or 18AA and often times more so. In fact, his D1 team was middle of the road and they beat a couple of 18AA teams in tournaments without much difficulty. D2 had some very good teams as well. Point being, more and more tier level Midget kids are choosing the ADHSL route and the level of play is rising because of it. I hear Santa Margarita has 13 incoming freshman hockey players this year.
The exodus of both 2002 and 2003 kids out of Midget AA (for whatever reason) is going to make for a very watered down club season.
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the ducks 16AAA was ranked #1 in the country most of last year! :o
Good point. I'd say the Jr Ducks have done a much better job of retention and creating more options (from Mites through Midgets). Additionally, the ADHSHL has done great things over the past decade to promote HS hockey. With the new rink down in Irvine, I imagine it'll even improve.
Question remains, though, how many kids are able to use their HS experience to get into college hockey? If this becomes a successful path, people will do it.
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Every parent and kid looks to Minnesota with awe. Those kids are able to play locally through high school, staying with all their friends, their families, and the state has the highest number of NHL players. Their system works. Proven fact.
Agreed. The Minnesota/Wisconsin model is great! But the reason it works for them and not for CA is that the *density* of kids in those states that play ice hockey is exponentially higher. Each of the high schools in those states can ice 2 or 3 full teams because the sport is part of their culture growing up. Its just not like that here. My son's school has like 2,500 kids, of which there are maybe 15 total that play ice hockey at any level. Contrast that to the 3 full boys soccer teams (not including kids that get cut from all 3 teams) the school has. We are a ***LONG*** way off from having more than 1 or 2 nationally competitive pure high school teams. And those high schools in CA now that are competitive at hockey are basically "clubs" anyway. There's a reason only the private schools do well - they are not subject to district boundary rules. If I had to guess, I would say at least 1/2 of the kids on SM and O-Lu do not live near those schools and one of the top reasons they go there is to play on the team.
Now take a look at Michigan & Illinois. Everyone knows about Little Caesars, Compuware, Mission, CYA, etc... AFAIK These are just regular club teams similar to the S/CAHA model. What causes a CA kid to want to leave and go play for Little Caesars?
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I'd say the Jr Ducks have done a much better job of retention and creating more options...
LOL - It was the Ducks I was thinking of when talking about restricting the PDR. I believe their 16AAA team last season had a couple kids previously from GSE and also a few kids from out of state. And guys flip-flop back and forth between Kings and Ducks every year.
I've talked to coaches from other states who specifically singled out the Ducks 16AAA coaches as doing a bad job of developing from within. On the other hand, I don't think its a crime to come right out and say "We're going to build a team to make a run at a national championship". As long as you know what the plan is ahead of time.
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I'd say the Jr Ducks have done a much better job of retention and creating more options...
LOL - It was the Ducks I was thinking of when talking about restricting the PDR. I believe their 16AAA team last season had a couple kids previously from GSE and also a few kids from out of state. And guys flip-flop back and forth between Kings and Ducks every year.
I've talked to coaches from other states who specifically singled out the Ducks 16AAA coaches as doing a bad job of developing from within. On the other hand, I don't think its a crime to come right out and say "We're going to build a team to make a run at a national championship". As long as you know what the plan is ahead of time.
Right, I just meant they were really trying to ice competitive teams at a higher age group than other programs. Plus, they have wrangled a lot of ice and seem to be trying to expand the game through a comprehensive in-house program and HS system. The Jr Kings seem to mainly care about their birth year teams.
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Every parent and kid looks to Minnesota with awe. Those kids are able to play locally through high school, staying with all their friends, their families, and the state has the highest number of NHL players. Their system works. Proven fact.
Agreed. The Minnesota/Wisconsin model is great! But the reason it works for them and not for CA is that the *density* of kids in those states that play ice hockey is exponentially higher. Each of the high schools in those states can ice 2 or 3 full teams because the sport is part of their culture growing up. Its just not like that here. My son's school has like 2,500 kids, of which there are maybe 15 total that play ice hockey at any level. Contrast that to the 3 full boys soccer teams (not including kids that get cut from all 3 teams) the school has. We are a ***LONG*** way off from having more than 1 or 2 nationally competitive pure high school teams. And those high schools in CA now that are competitive at hockey are basically "clubs" anyway. There's a reason only the private schools do well - they are not subject to district boundary rules. If I had to guess, I would say at least 1/2 of the kids on SM and O-Lu do not live near those schools and one of the top reasons they go there is to play on the team.
Now take a look at Michigan & Illinois. Everyone knows about Little Caesars, Compuware, Mission, CYA, etc... AFAIK These are just regular club teams similar to the S/CAHA model. What causes a CA kid to want to leave and go play for Little Caesars?
That's the big question, right? Most would say exposure and it makes life easier (less travel, etc.). I suppose that's what CAHA will always be up against, and it's a bit of a circular discussion.
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A friend here has an 03 that is working out with a MN high school team over the summer. The skating program is six weeks, on-ice 4 days w/dryland after. Cost? $425. 6-week strength and conditioning program before ice practice. Cost? $88. That's $513 for 2 hours of gym/dryland and 1.5 hours of ice practice/scrimmage, 4 days a week for 6 weeks. Both facilities are 5-10 minute bike ride. No brainer. Not even sure what a season costs for HS hockey. I saw an invoice for Damien next season: $4200. Yep, no brainer.
BTW, the coach he's practicing with took last year's varsity team to final 8 in MN State Hockey tournament.
Not sure if the HS leagues in Illinois or Michigan or Wisconsin compare, but California certainly does not.
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Right, but any place that has cheaper Ice is going to have less expensive programs.
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People aren't leaving California because ice is expensive. Compared to other states, it's really not that expensive. The sport on a whole is expensive, but it doesn't have to be as expensive if CAHA would do their job and solely focus on California and what's good for all of California. Creating boundaries and not allowing kids to play would be a start. For example, if all 09/08s were in Squirt, the division would be dynamite. But the 08s are all over the place, including PWAA. This creates a class system and fractures the foundation going forward, and the migration out of state at Bantams will continue. The problem starts early, and CAHA allows it. [size=78%] [/size]
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I think the cost of ice absolutely impacts the overall cost of the sport on a whole. There are a number of contributing factors, but ice is probably the largest expense in any program. It's worse here because I don't think there's a single sheet of ice that is municipally-owned (i.e. subsidized). Privately-owned ice means there's gotta be a profit, no matter how small. Add that to the fact that we live in a friggin desert, AND electricity costs a fortune, cost of ice certainly has an impact. Now, when you get to Tier 1 and 2 hockey, depending on the program, travel probably nudges ahead of ice in terms of cost, and coaching doesn't come cheap either. Plus, why the hell doesn't CAHA allow teams to get sponsors??? Walk into any rink in MN and the boards/walls are covered in them. It's all about control...
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I think the cost of ice absolutely impacts the overall cost of the sport on a whole. There are a number of contributing factors, but ice is probably the largest expense in any program. It's worse here because I don't think there's a single sheet of ice that is municipally-owned (i.e. subsidized). Privately-owned ice means there's gotta be a profit, no matter how small. Add that to the fact that we live in a friggin desert, AND electricity costs a fortune, cost of ice certainly has an impact. Now, when you get to Tier 1 and 2 hockey, depending on the program, travel probably nudges ahead of ice in terms of cost, and coaching doesn't come cheap either. Plus, why the hell doesn't CAHA allow teams to get sponsors??? Walk into any rink in MN and the boards/walls are covered in them. It's all about control...
There actually is one that I know of -- Bakersfield. The cost to play in Bakersfield is significantly less than any other club thanks to the subsidized cost of the ice.
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It's so dusty in here where did all the posters go?
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Prep school. Lol.
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Prep school. Lol.
;D
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Or Minnesota...
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are they doing that silly Jamboree again in SJ this year?
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Nope... . It's a silly jamboree in Simi Valley
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And in Valencia too.
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Scrimmages this weekend??
Empire 5 Ducks (2) 4
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with under a week until the exhibition “gamesâ€, who are the front runners??
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Any scores?
I know wave 2 beat reign and Ducks 2 beat Pasadena
Any others?
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Ducks 1 and Sharks tied not sure on score
GSE over OC2. 3-0
Ducks 2 over OC2. 2-1
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OC1 and Gulls tied 2-2
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Hey Midget 16UAA parents... you're all being blatantly ripped off by CAHA. Your games should be (2) 25-minute periods... not (2) 20-minute periods. It's printed and published in the CAHA 2017-2019 Guidebook.
Here is the rule:
On Page 31:
9.9 CAHA TIER II FLIGHT SYSTEM ADMINISTRATIVE GUIDELINES:
6) Evaluation Jamboree format will be 1-hour mini game slots, with a 3-minute warmup, (2) 25-minute runtime periods, and a 1-minute intermission between periods.
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Hey Midget 16UAA parents... you're all being blatantly ripped off by CAHA. Your games should be (2) 25-minute periods... not (2) 20-minute periods. It's printed and published in the CAHA 2017-2019 Guidebook.
Here is the rule:
On Page 31:
9.9 CAHA TIER II FLIGHT SYSTEM ADMINISTRATIVE GUIDELINES:
6) Evaluation Jamboree format will be 1-hour mini game slots, with a 3-minute warmup, (2) 25-minute runtime periods, and a 1-minute intermission between periods.
I asked... looked like a miscommunication between the rink and CAHA... I told the lady at the table about the error and even showed her the rule... she said that CAHA tild her 20 min periods when they set it up... somebody definitely goofed... what are the period lengths at simi??
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what are the period lengths at simi??
2 x 20-min running clock
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Hey Midget 16UAA parents... you're all being blatantly ripped off by CAHA. Your games should be (2) 25-minute periods... not (2) 20-minute periods. It's printed and published in the CAHA 2017-2019 Guidebook.
Here is the rule:
On Page 31:
9.9 CAHA TIER II FLIGHT SYSTEM ADMINISTRATIVE GUIDELINES:
6) Evaluation Jamboree format will be 1-hour mini game slots, with a 3-minute warmup, (2) 25-minute runtime periods, and a 1-minute intermission between periods.
I asked... looked like a miscommunication between the rink and CAHA... I told the lady at the table about the error and even showed her the rule... she said that CAHA tild her 20 min periods when they set it up... somebody definitely goofed... what are the period lengths at simi??
(2) 20-minute periods. I thought maybe it was just our game... but it was everyone. Parents said same thing at Valencia for 12U. How can that be a goof? It's the same as last year... and it's clearly stated in the guidelines. That's so shady.
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when is everyone playing in the morning?! lololololol
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well, like midget participation, this board has lost a fair share of life (who misses crash???) ill try to get some discussion going with my way too early picks
in no particular order
top teams - wave1 (?) ducks1 sharks
next group - oc1 wave2 gulls empire
next next group - gse ducks2 oc2 blackhawks reign pasadena kings mariners
a team? - heat
so if two flights, who from the next next group deserves to be in???
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well, like midget participation, this board has lost a fair share of life (who misses crash???) ill try to get some discussion going with my way too early picks
in no particular order
top teams - wave1 (?) ducks1 sharks
next group - oc1 wave2 gulls empire
next next group - gse ducks2 oc2 blackhawks reign pasadena kings mariners
a team? - heat
so if two flights, who from the next next group deserves to be in???
Screw one of the "next group" and have GSE and Blackhawks in Flight 1 so Flight 2 doesn't have to travel... Duhhhhh lol
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well, like midget participation, this board has lost a fair share of life (who misses crash???) ill try to get some discussion going with my way too early picks
in no particular order
top teams - wave1 (?) ducks1 sharks
next group - oc1 wave2 gulls empire
next next group - gse ducks2 oc2 blackhawks reign pasadena kings mariners
a team? - heat
so if two flights, who from the next next group deserves to be in???
Screw one of the "next group" and have GSE and Blackhawks in Flight 1 so Flight 2 doesn't have to travel... Duhhhhh lol
I went to the CAHA team managers meeting and they said they'd try to let an all SoCal flight 2 play only in SoCal. They said no guarantees. The rumor is that since most of the teams were evenly matched there would be no flights for 16U.
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well, like midget participation, this board has lost a fair share of life (who misses crash???) ill try to get some discussion going with my way too early picks
in no particular order
top teams - wave1 (?) ducks1 sharks
next group - oc1 wave2 gulls empire
next next group - gse ducks2 oc2 blackhawks reign pasadena kings mariners
a team? - heat
so if two flights, who from the next next group deserves to be in???
Ducks 1, sharks, OC1, Kings, Gulls, wave 1. Are all flight 1
Empire probably as well
Ducks 2, wave 2, GSE, could go either way. maybe Blackhawks in this group
OC2 , leafs, reign, heat, mariners... are flight 2
Heat probably should drop to A
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Official word was just sent to managers..... 16U will not flight.... they will play 1 big division
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Caha weekends....
Oct.... vacaville
Nov.... Lakewood
Jan.... Lakewood again
Feb... san jose
Dec weekend canceled
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lots of teams with lots of money into this past weekend...glad it resulted in a logical outcome hahahahahaha
Official word was just sent to managers..... 16U will not flight.... they will play 1 big division
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Caha weekends....
Oct.... vacaville
Nov.... Lakewood
Jan.... Lakewood again
Feb... san jose
Dec weekend canceled
Any word on the CAHA weekend dates & locations for the 18AA teams?
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Caha weekends....
Oct.... vacaville
Nov.... Lakewood
Jan.... Lakewood again
Feb... san jose
Dec weekend canceled
Any word on the CAHA weekend dates & locations for the 18AA teams?
We were told this is the 18AA schedule:
MIDGET 18
10/5 san jose
11/ 9 valencia
11/30 vacaville
1/4 escondido
2/1 lakewood
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Looks like the website finally got updated too.
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Scores???
Ducks (2) 4, Wave (1) 2.
Others??
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Heat 3, Leafs 1
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so whos got the latest lines?
10/5/2018 4:45p Empire Heat
10/5/2018 5:15p Jr. Sharks Blackhawks
10/5/2018 6:30p Wave(2) Wave(1)
10/5/2018 7:00p Jr. Gulls Maple Leafs
10/5/2018 8:15p Jr. Ducks(2) GSE
10/5/2018 8:45p Mariners OC Hockey(2)
10/6/2018 6:30a Jr. Ducks(1) Jr. Kings
10/6/2018 7:45a Jr. Reign Heat
10/6/2018 8:15a OC Hockey(1) Blackhawks
10/6/2018 9:30a Jr. Gulls GSE
10/6/2018 10:00a Jr. Ducks(2) Maple Leafs
10/6/2018 11:15a Mariners Jr. Sharks
10/6/2018 11:45a OC Hockey(2) Wave(1)
10/6/2018 1:00p Wave(2) Empire
10/6/2018 2:45p Blackhawks Jr. Reign
10/6/2018 3:15p Heat GSE
10/6/2018 4:30p Jr. Ducks(1) Jr. Gulls
10/6/2018 5:00p Maple Leafs Mariners
10/6/2018 6:15p Jr. Sharks Wave(1)
10/6/2018 6:45p Jr. Kings OC Hockey(2)
10/6/2018 8:00p Jr. Ducks(2) Wave(2)
10/6/2018 8:30p Empire OC Hockey(1)
10/7/2018 6:30a Mariners Blackhawks
10/7/2018 7:45a Jr. Reign Wave(1)
10/7/2018 8:15a Jr. Kings Maple Leafs
10/7/2018 9:30a OC Hockey(2) Jr. Sharks
10/7/2018 10:00a Heat OC Hockey(1)
10/7/2018 11:15a GSE Wave(2)
10/7/2018 11:45a Jr. Ducks(2) Jr. Gulls
10/7/2018 1:30p Jr. Ducks(1) Empire