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Hockey Discussions => Midget Hockey => Topic started by: Knuckle Puck on October 14, 2018, 02:40:26 PM
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curious if anyone who attended could identify the # of scouts who attended this weekend or any of the organizations they represent? thank you.
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I got this from schaha about the jamboree. Do you think I’m being catfished?
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Do you think it is or is not a trick question?
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Check all that apply. :)
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curious if anyone who attended could identify the # of scouts who attended this weekend or any of the organizations they represent? thank you.
BCHL- Wanatchee Wild ,Cowichan capitals
WHL - Portland WinterHawks, Tri-City Americans, Regina Pats, Saskatoon Blades
Not sure If others, I would guess a few from the WSHL Programs.
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I could not believe how the JK and JD have changed over the last two seasons! I didn't recognize the names on the backs of many of the players, especially the JD except for the goalies. I heard many went on to Prep and a few have moved to Juniors. Still, it surprised me.
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How is it surprising? In case you haven’t heard, caha and scaha have ruined competitive hockey in CA with their creation of the nonsensical flight system. Just take a look at this year’s Bantam flights for all you need to know about why kids are fleeing CA hockey. 5 of the teams in flight two could easily make the playoffs, but due to politics and outright stupidity, now only one will have a one shot chance of making the playoffs. Meanwhile many undeserving teams get an automatic entry into playoffs before even stepping foot on the ice for the season. Why would serious kids stay in CA with this nonsense taking place?
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Maybe they didn't screw it up and the CA AAA teams are that much better and it's giving more kids exposure for getting recruited to Prep Schools. I just throwing that out there, could be totally wrong, but I do agree that less AAA teams is better for CA hockey.
Is Prep School just a fad, or will it help these kids get Div 1 scholarships? or are parents just sending their kids to prep school because they feel it's maybe like adding one more A (AAAA). I guess we'll see over the next few years.
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Here's what little I know. A fellow parent told me that his son works at a college within the hockey department. The coach for their team told him to only look at player's resumes that have at least junior experience to be considered for the team. I do not know how prep school experience was factored in for this however. I have heard that it does make it easier to get into a college of choice but not told how it factors in for college hockey teams.
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Most college freshman hockey players on scholarship are 20 years old. College primarily recruits out of Juniors.
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All you have to do is look at the roster of your favorite D1 college team. Pretty much all players come from USHL and a few from NAHL. Those teams draft kids from prep schools and AAA programs. It's simple really. The AAA environment is so political and limited, very few of us from the "outside" can get in. Prep school is our best shot. My son went to Tahoe and he is killing it up there. That kind of development would not have been possible for us if we had stayed local.
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THA is a joke, I seriously hope you didn’t pay anything near what they were asking. THA? WTF? Place won’t even exist in 3-5 years. They can’t even beat the Orange County high school teams. Nice try pumping up that “academyâ€.
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THA is a joke, I seriously hope you didn’t pay anything near what they were asking. THA? WTF? Place won’t even exist in 3-5 years. They can’t even beat the Orange County high school teams. Nice try pumping up that “academyâ€.
So why is THA a joke??? You stated that they wont last 3-5 years? There in the 3rd year went from 18 kids the first year to roughly 26 the second year to 37 this year and 2 full teams....
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THA is making all of the right moves to be a solid west coast hockey alternative to AAA and back east/Canada prep going forward.
One might notice that 15AAA Pacific has no team in the MHR top 20, just SJ at #24. So. Cal has weakened due to the exits and then AA caliber back filling. Same news every year.
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THA is making all of the right moves to be a solid west coast hockey alternative to AAA and back east/Canada prep going forward.
One might notice that 15AAA Pacific has no team in the MHR top 20, just SJ at #24. So. Cal has weakened due to the exits and then AA caliber back filling. Same news every year.
aren't a number of (all?) the remaining superstar kings 03s playing 16s?
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Hot Garbage
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All you have to do is look at the roster of your favorite D1 college team. Pretty much all players come from USHL and a few from NAHL. Those teams draft kids from prep schools and AAA programs. It's simple really. The AAA environment is so political and limited, very few of us from the "outside" can get in. Prep school is our best shot. My son went to Tahoe and he is killing it up there. That kind of development would not have been possible for us if we had stayed local.
How many USHL/NAHL players are actually drafted out of Prep schools (as distinct from AAA and a few hockey academies like Shattuck/SKA/Delta)? I've heard all the marketing, but in reality, is it more than single digits nationally each year?
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Something’s got to give or change, how are the ‘02 & ‘03 AAA teams performing? The feeder system is broken.
They’d be better off opening it up with the hope kids would eventually want to play for a superclub.
It would create more local games and keep more kids in the state in the long run. Otherwise just about everyone is forced to consider the elsewhere option.
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The main issue with so cal tier hockey is the lack of local games. Our teams get on planes for expensive long weekends several times per season and parents have become very keen to the negative educational trade off. Kings are doing a good job of attracting out of state teams to their tournaments, Ducks not yet but have a good opportunity to with their new facility opening.
IMO more high level tournaments locally will go a long way to mend the problems. Many teams back east have already played over 20 games. The tradition and momentum is/still will be back there, but who there doesn't want an excuse to come to Southern California in January?
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I used to think THA would sink after a few years, but it’s only getting better/stronger.
I know lots of THA kids and their parents, and know the program well.
There a lot of kids with big hockey dreams, and parents willing to spend big $ to send their kids to a program geared strictly for hockey. Lots of players go there because they want a better hockey experience than they get with their current clubs. THA is like Jr Hockey for HS kid. The coaching staff and program are great, and the kids love that hockey lifestyle. I don’t blame them for joining the THA program. It sounds fun! That’s probably what I would do if I was that age.
In the first couple of years, THA was giving away big scholarships to get kids there. Now THA is able to get more $ from the parents and give out less $ in scholarships as there is more demand. I think THA will be around for a while. They have backers with big $, a great program, and more people are sick of their current club and seeing that THA is a great alternative.
One of the problems with THA is that the dorm is far from town or anything else, and sometimes the kids get bored hanging around the dorm. I’m not a fan of the education THA provides, but I won’t get into that because I’ll get flamed for hurting somebody’s feelings.
My son had no desire to go to THA. He wanted a great HS education which prepared him to transition straight into an awesome Private or UC college. He’s realistic in the fact that he has no desire to go play junior hockey after HS, then hoping he gets one of the few D1 ice hockey scholarships out there. My son will be starting his master’s degree while a lot of the THA kids are just getting done with their junior hockey careers and starting their first year in Junior College or state college year & playing ACHA hockey.
Reality check – Check out these links showing the realities of the D1 rosters & the lack of D1 hockey scholarships. Most played USHL, NAHL, BCHL, or other Canadian league.
http://www.scholarshipstats.com/hockey.html (http://www.scholarshipstats.com/hockey.html)
https://bceagles.com/roster.aspx?roster=399&path=mhockey (https://bceagles.com/roster.aspx?roster=399&path=mhockey)
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/almanac/funfacts-ageavg.php (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/almanac/funfacts-ageavg.php)
https://www.neutralzone.net/mens/2016/06/25/college-hockey-landscape-study-21-year-old-freshman/ (https://www.neutralzone.net/mens/2016/06/25/college-hockey-landscape-study-21-year-old-freshman/)(from 2016)
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I used to think THA would sink after a few years, but it’s only getting better/stronger.
I know lots of THA kids and their parents, and know the program well.
There a lot of kids with big hockey dreams, and parents willing to spend big $ to send their kids to a program geared strictly for hockey. Lots of players go there because they want a better hockey experience than they get with their current clubs. THA is like Jr Hockey for HS kid. The coaching staff and program are great, and the kids love that hockey lifestyle. I don’t blame them for joining the THA program. It sounds fun! That’s probably what I would do if I was that age.
In the first couple of years, THA was giving away big scholarships to get kids there. Now THA is able to get more $ from the parents and give out less $ in scholarships as there is more demand. I think THA will be around for a while. They have backers with big $, a great program, and more people are sick of their current club and seeing that THA is a great alternative.
One of the problems with THA is that the dorm is far from town or anything else, and sometimes the kids get bored hanging around the dorm. I’m not a fan of the education THA provides, but I won’t get into that because I’ll get flamed for hurting somebody’s feelings.
My son had no desire to go to THA. He wanted a great HS education which prepared him to transition straight into an awesome Private or UC college. He’s realistic in the fact that he has no desire to go play junior hockey after HS, then hoping he gets one of the few D1 ice hockey scholarships out there. My son will be starting his master’s degree while a lot of the THA kids are just getting done with their junior hockey careers and starting their first year in Junior College or state college year & playing ACHA hockey.
Reality check – Check out these links showing the realities of the D1 rosters & the lack of D1 hockey scholarships. Most played USHL, NAHL, BCHL, or other Canadian league.
http://www.scholarshipstats.com/hockey.html (http://www.scholarshipstats.com/hockey.html)
https://bceagles.com/roster.aspx?roster=399&path=mhockey (https://bceagles.com/roster.aspx?roster=399&path=mhockey)
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/almanac/funfacts-ageavg.php (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/almanac/funfacts-ageavg.php)
https://www.neutralzone.net/mens/2016/06/25/college-hockey-landscape-study-21-year-old-freshman/ (https://www.neutralzone.net/mens/2016/06/25/college-hockey-landscape-study-21-year-old-freshman/)(from 2016)
Im not here to defend THA schooling program as its not for everyone. My son has excelled in school since he has been there and this year his senior year up at THA is carrying a 4.0 GPA with his AP classes. Scored pretty well on his first try on SAT and will take it again to try and better his score. His goal and I hope he achieves it, is after high school play 1 year of Juniors then goto college. He knows he has only a few years left and is planning his future. He had many Junior offers last year and Im sure after this year have many more. Its what HE wants to do and as any parent why wouldn't we try and give are kids what they want.
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THA is making all of the right moves to be a solid west coast hockey alternative to AAA and back east/Canada prep going forward.
One might notice that 15AAA Pacific has no team in the MHR top 20, just SJ at #24. So. Cal has weakened due to the exits and then AA caliber back filling. Same news every year.
Had the "superstar" Kings remained on the 15u team they would be in the Top 5. Plus a handful of those Kings players moved on to Prep School. SJ 15u is 11-2, has already beaten a top 10 team, and is only not ranked higher due to playing AA teams, which they have to do in order to get any games in. Take the AA games off the list and the MHR math puts them in the Top 15. The SJ 16AA team is undefeated and was ranked in the top 10. The Ducks 15u AAA team is a "backfill" team but recently went 2-2 at their last Tier One event.
Point is there is plenty of talent being home grown here in CA both in SoCal and NorCal. Development is way more important than exposure. The fact that the Shattucks of the world are recruiting here in CA is indicator that the Kings/Ducks/Sharks are doing a decent job developing the players.
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So in lyrical summary....
There's a lady who's sure[/size]All that glitters is goldAnd she's buying a stairway to heaven....
Yes, there are two paths you can go by
But in the long run
There's still time to change the road you're on...
Happy Friday everyone!!
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THA is making all of the right moves to be a solid west coast hockey alternative to AAA and back east/Canada prep going forward.
One might notice that 15AAA Pacific has no team in the MHR top 20, just SJ at #24. So. Cal has weakened due to the exits and then AA caliber back filling. Same news every year.
Had the "superstar" Kings remained on the 15u team they would be in the Top 5. Plus a handful of those Kings players moved on to Prep School. SJ 15u is 11-2, has already beaten a top 10 team, and is only not ranked higher due to playing AA teams, which they have to do in order to get any games in. Take the AA games off the list and the MHR math puts them in the Top 15. The SJ 16AA team is undefeated and was ranked in the top 10. The Ducks 15u AAA team is a "backfill" team but recently went 2-2 at their last Tier One event.
Point is there is plenty of talent being home grown here in CA both in SoCal and NorCal. Development is way more important than exposure. The fact that the Shattucks of the world are recruiting here in CA is indicator that the Kings/Ducks/Sharks are doing a decent job developing the players.
What about the other, smaller, clubs like Bears, GSE, OC, Wave, Saints, and Gulls and with young kids, Ice Dogs and Gold Rush. The 3 big clubs may get the credit but they may depend on the smaller clubs and the smaller clubs may also be a narrow pipeline to the Shattucks of the world. I wonder what the data says?
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Development is way more important than exposure.
Excellent observation.
Now, how many hours per week does your kid spend on the ice, how many hours driving to/from the rink, what's the cost per hour . . . and how does that compare to dozens of programs back east (or north)?More than a hundred families over the past two years have decided the value is better elsewhere.
What are the local clubs doing to compete? I think a lot fewer kids would leave if ice was more affordable and there were programs and a circuit here like the CSSHL (less travel/less missed school). Parents really do not like that the only options for most at tier 1 are missing dozens of school days or transferring to an online education. ALL kids need to keep their grades up if they want to go to college, regardless of whether or not they will play hockey when they get there. just my two cents.
Agree with you. But if we wanted to pick a sport that made more sense from a practical standpoint we would have picked water polo or swimming or any one of the other sports that California excels at. But we picked hockey, arguably the greatest sport in the world. And with that comes some inherent downsides that those sports don't have.
[/size][size=78%]That decision comes some facts that should not be surprises. California is expensive therefore it is difficult to build enough rinks. We do not have nearly enough ice. That is never going to change. I saw a study that showed if California were to have the same amount of ice per capita as Minnesota we would need to build nearly a thousand more sheets. Never going to happen. Another fact is that we are simply too far from everyone else. We have to travel. Teams from Boston, Chicago, and Detroit have the benefit of geography. That's never going to change. We don't have frozen ponds or the ability to have temporary outdoor rinks as well. [/size]
I believe California as a whole does a decent job, given our limitations, developing players. And yes, developing them till they are 15/16/17 is still development. California will probably never have the equivalent of Little Caesars and that may be a good thing. For the most part, especially in NorCal, our teams cater to the local population. If we had a team that had kids from all around the country came to try out for there would be way fewer Californians on those teams. In other words, our teams service the locals. Is there something wrong with that? Now if a local wants more, they have options. Prep School. Billet. I don't think California "fails" at hockey because some players need to leave anymore than Michigan fails at water polo because those kids come to California.
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Obviously Cal will never be Minny, Mich or Mass, but it can do a lot better. Much griping comes from sense that CAHA is heading in opposite direction of something that could work at the midget level: academy programs in a SW USA circuit similar to CSSHL in BC/Alberta. If most Californians/Arizonans stayed home, a decent circuit of 10-12 clubs could be established. Most clubs within driving (or cheap/short flight) distance. High quality 3-4 rink facilities in SJ, Irvine, Scottsdale for showcase weekends that could attract scouts + northern teams looking for a break from the winter. Align the programs with in-person schools that allow flexible schedules for hockey players (examples: BWC Academy/Burnaby School; OHA/Penticton HS, etc.). There already are numerous sports academies in So Cal for tennis and soccer, how hard would it be to partner with their academics? Top topic of convo for bantam/midget parents for several years has been "why don't we have this?" Why? That's easy. Instead of expanding circuit, JK (mainly) and JD turned up nose at growing programs and actively worked to push them out of AAA (Titans/Wave/Wildcats/Avalanche). Wrong approach for the long term. Now even the top 2 programs declining as many kids (often the best ones) leave state in droves. And not changing soon: JK&JD already have lost several of their best 04s/05s; more to come. Sad. Could have been different.
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Obviously Cal will never be Minny, Mich or Mass, but it can do a lot better. Much griping comes from sense that CAHA is heading in opposite direction of something that could work at the midget level: academy programs in a SW USA circuit similar to CSSHL in BC/Alberta. If most Californians/Arizonans stayed home, a decent circuit of 10-12 clubs could be established. Most clubs within driving (or cheap/short flight) distance. High quality 3-4 rink facilities in SJ, Irvine, Scottsdale for showcase weekends that could attract scouts + northern teams looking for a break from the winter. Align the programs with in-person schools that allow flexible schedules for hockey players (examples: BWC Academy/Burnaby School; OHA/Penticton HS, etc.). There already are numerous sports academies in So Cal for tennis and soccer, how hard would it be to partner with their academics? Top topic of convo for bantam/midget parents for several years has been "why don't we have this?" Why? That's easy. Instead of expanding circuit, JK (mainly) and JD turned up nose at growing programs and actively worked to push them out of AAA (Titans/Wave/Wildcats/Avalanche). Wrong approach for the long term. Now even the top 2 programs declining as many kids (often the best ones) leave state in droves. And not changing soon: JK&JD already have lost several of their best 04s/05s; more to come. Sad. Could have been different.
One caveat I would throw in there is we simply do not have enough talent to fill more than 3-4 AAA teams in the state, especially in NorCal
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Yep. So jd kids went back with displaced 02s from jk 16aaa team
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How many kids has THA moved on to the WHL,USHL,NAHL, or BCHL?
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How many kids has THA moved on to the WHL,USHL,NAHL, or BCHL?
Not to sure were alot of kids have gone since the program is only in its third year. I know one kid is in WSHL. A few left to AAA programs back east. A defense man is playing USHL. Another kid is up in Toronto playing Midget AAA.
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Looks like 7 of the Kings 03 went to 15’s; at least 2 went back east to Shattucks; remainder went to 16 team.
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Just a few things to mull over.
1. California AAA hockey = tons of travel and missing a lot of school
2. Missing a lot of school at the high school level will impact your kid's ability to get into a good college. Prep school = NO missed school and a great education. Cost could comparable to Ca AAA hockey when you add travel expenses and extra coaching. Many prep schools give decent scholarships to make costs very comparable. You'll just be missing your kid, but the same would happen in juniors. I don't know much about the education programs offered in juniors but I don't think it could compare to a good prep school education.
3. If a top notch college isn't in your plans or your kid is going to the NHL, it doesn't matter.
4. With only around 60 D1 college teams and limited scholarships, your kids chances are very low unless they are a "star". Remember, you are competing with kids around the world.
5. California AAA hockey means competing pretty much with your age group. That is where Juniors and Prep is far superior. Your kid will play kids 2-3 years older. Fast and bigger hitting. If they excel there, your kid will have a much better shot.
6. Many college club hockey programs are great, very competitive but will impact studies much less. Some of those kids who excel there could make the jump to varsity and many come from juniors
7. There is much less supervision in Juniors while alcohol, smoking, vaping and drug use is much higher than Prep...your kid will need to handle extreme peer pressure.
8. Trades in Juniors happens all the time...
9. AA hockey means much less missed school and college club hockey is still a real possibility in many college...probably just not the big hockey colleges.
10. Lastly.....California AAA hockey and juniors means missing out on a great high school experience...clubs, proms -- a part of life that many look back upon with fond memories. Do you really want your kid to miss out on a great high school year if they aren't going to the NHL or a D1 college hockey program?
Lots to think about to be sure. Wishing you all a great season!
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Just a few things to mull over.
1. California AAA hockey = tons of travel and missing a lot of school
2. Missing a lot of school at the high school level will impact your kid's ability to get into a good college. Prep school = NO missed school and a great education. Cost could comparable to Ca AAA hockey when you add travel expenses and extra coaching. Many prep schools give decent scholarships to make costs very comparable. You'll just be missing your kid, but the same would happen in juniors. I don't know much about the education programs offered in juniors but I don't think it could compare to a good prep school education.
3. If a top notch college isn't in your plans or your kid is going to the NHL, it doesn't matter.
4. With only around 60 D1 college teams and limited scholarships, your kids chances are very low unless they are a "star". Remember, you are competing with kids around the world.
5. California AAA hockey means competing pretty much with your age group. That is where Juniors and Prep is far superior. Your kid will play kids 2-3 years older. Fast and bigger hitting. If they excel there, your kid will have a much better shot.
6. Many college club hockey programs are great, very competitive but will impact studies much less. Some of those kids who excel there could make the jump to varsity and many come from juniors
7. There is much less supervision in Juniors while alcohol, smoking, vaping and drug use is much higher than Prep...your kid will need to handle extreme peer pressure.
8. Trades in Juniors happens all the time...
9. AA hockey means much less missed school and college club hockey is still a real possibility in many college...probably just not the big hockey colleges.
10. Lastly.....California AAA hockey and juniors means missing out on a great high school experience...clubs, proms -- a part of life that many look back upon with fond memories. Do you really want your kid to miss out on a great high school year if they aren't going to the NHL or a D1 college hockey program?
Lots to think about to be sure. Wishing you all a great season!
^^^ What he said. ^^^
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Just a few things to mull over.
1. California AAA hockey = tons of travel and missing a lot of school
2. Missing a lot of school at the high school level will impact your kid's ability to get into a good college. Prep school = NO missed school and a great education. Cost could comparable to Ca AAA hockey when you add travel expenses and extra coaching. Many prep schools give decent scholarships to make costs very comparable. You'll just be missing your kid, but the same would happen in juniors. I don't know much about the education programs offered in juniors but I don't think it could compare to a good prep school education.
3. If a top notch college isn't in your plans or your kid is going to the NHL, it doesn't matter.
4. With only around 60 D1 college teams and limited scholarships, your kids chances are very low unless they are a "star". Remember, you are competing with kids around the world.
5. California AAA hockey means competing pretty much with your age group. That is where Juniors and Prep is far superior. Your kid will play kids 2-3 years older. Fast and bigger hitting. If they excel there, your kid will have a much better shot.
6. Many college club hockey programs are great, very competitive but will impact studies much less. Some of those kids who excel there could make the jump to varsity and many come from juniors
7. There is much less supervision in Juniors while alcohol, smoking, vaping and drug use is much higher than Prep...your kid will need to handle extreme peer pressure.
8. Trades in Juniors happens all the time...
9. AA hockey means much less missed school and college club hockey is still a real possibility in many college...probably just not the big hockey colleges.
10. Lastly.....California AAA hockey and juniors means missing out on a great high school experience...clubs, proms -- a part of life that many look back upon with fond memories. Do you really want your kid to miss out on a great high school year if they aren't going to the NHL or a D1 college hockey program?
Lots to think about to be sure. Wishing you all a great season!
^^^ What he said. ^^^
This is a very good post. The other option kids may have in AAA and AA. the the CHL( WHL) this does give kids a option to play Jrs and get funds for school. You sign with the team, you get 15k USA or CDN. Depends on Where you live. You play 1 Ex game another 15k. But if you get hurt on ice and are done, you get 4 yrs of school 60k. For every year of playing another 15k for school. So your son could play in the WHL then go to school at CSUN, UNLV,CSLB,San Jose State, etc You get the idea.
While this does take out the NCAA hockey playing option. You do play hockey at Jrs. then go to school after. Yes it is hard for kids who have not gone to school for a year or two to get back into it.
The post written above is very good. I would say traveling with the teams as a U15 and U16 you do get to see the country. You also see your child learn to grow on his own and they figure quickly what happens when you dont air out your bag or forget under armor, etc.
Who ever wrote that ... kudos
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A kid from THA last year is playing in USHL this year? What team? Saying kids are going AAA out east doesn’t mean much, there are more bad/pretend AAA teams then there are good one out east. WSHL is a pretend jr league that a average MN high school hockey player could make any team. And why go to MN and play 4 games against teamsnot from MN? Your in MN why not challenge yourself and play a MN team? Would it ruin the illusion? Seems like a lot of money for development to maybe WSHL. And look how many kids they move on.
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A kid from THA last year is playing in USHL this year? What team? Saying kids are going AAA out east doesn’t mean much, there are more bad/pretend AAA teams then there are good one out east. WSHL is a pretend jr league that a average MN high school hockey player could make any team. And why go to MN and play 4 games against teamsnot from MN? Your in MN why not challenge yourself and play a MN team? Would it ruin the illusion? Seems like a lot of money for development to maybe WSHL. And look how many kids they move on.
I apologize he isnt in that league as I thought he was.... We dont make the schedule for NAHL.... And im pretty the most of the teams are not snot... Put it this way its not as much as AAA kids from Cali are paying for there season. My son will play somewhere between 50-60 games this year on the ice 5 days a week top of the line off ice training facility with top level trainers. My sons last year in Cali playing AA for the wave and HS hockey I spent well over 20,000.00 just for dues extra ice time which would only make 3 days a week and traveling no off ice trainers and no top notch facility, and not to say that the average cost per day to provide for kid is roughly 30.00 a day, so take that in consideration over 9 month while he is at THA thats another 9500.00. The fact is THA hasn't even completed there third year but have doubled there family from 17 the first year to 37 this year.... Not to bad. Give them 5 years and come back and ask that question and see what kind of answer you will get. This years Prep Team is BY FAR the most skilled the most tenacious group of boys they have had. Watching them play is a joy and this year is the haapiest my kid has ever had since his mite and squirts days.... So right there makes it worth it for my wife and I.
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A kid from THA last year is playing in USHL this year? What team? Saying kids are going AAA out east doesn’t mean much, there are more bad/pretend AAA teams then there are good one out east. WSHL is a pretend jr league that a average MN high school hockey player could make any team. And why go to MN and play 4 games against teamsnot from MN? Your in MN why not challenge yourself and play a MN team? Would it ruin the illusion? Seems like a lot of money for development to maybe WSHL. And look how many kids they move on.
I apologize he isnt in that league as I thought he was.... We dont make the schedule for NAHL.... And im pretty the most of the teams are not snot... Put it this way its not as much as AAA kids from Cali are paying for there season. My son will play somewhere between 50-60 games this year on the ice 5 days a week top of the line off ice training facility with top level trainers. My sons last year in Cali playing AA for the wave and HS hockey I spent well over 20,000.00 just for dues extra ice time which would only make 3 days a week and traveling no off ice trainers and no top notch facility, and not to say that the average cost per day to provide for kid is roughly 30.00 a day, so take that in consideration over 9 month while he is at THA thats another 9500.00. The fact is THA hasn't even completed there third year but have doubled there family from 17 the first year to 37 this year.... Not to bad. Give them 5 years and come back and ask that question and see what kind of answer you will get. This years Prep Team is BY FAR the most skilled the most tenacious group of boys they have had. Watching them play is a joy and this year is the haapiest my kid has ever had since his mite and squirts days.... So right there makes it worth it for my wife and I.
hopefully the education at THA is better than the spelling and grammar in this post.
boy was that difficult to read...
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A kid from THA last year is playing in USHL this year? What team? Saying kids are going AAA out east doesn’t mean much, there are more bad/pretend AAA teams then there are good one out east. WSHL is a pretend jr league that a average MN high school hockey player could make any team. And why go to MN and play 4 games against teamsnot from MN? Your in MN why not challenge yourself and play a MN team? Would it ruin the illusion? Seems like a lot of money for development to maybe WSHL. And look how many kids they move on.
I apologize he isnt in that league as I thought he was.... We dont make the schedule for NAHL.... And im pretty the most of the teams are not snot... Put it this way its not as much as AAA kids from Cali are paying for there season. My son will play somewhere between 50-60 games this year on the ice 5 days a week top of the line off ice training facility with top level trainers. My sons last year in Cali playing AA for the wave and HS hockey I spent well over 20,000.00 just for dues extra ice time which would only make 3 days a week and traveling no off ice trainers and no top notch facility, and not to say that the average cost per day to provide for kid is roughly 30.00 a day, so take that in consideration over 9 month while he is at THA thats another 9500.00. The fact is THA hasn't even completed there third year but have doubled there family from 17 the first year to 37 this year.... Not to bad. Give them 5 years and come back and ask that question and see what kind of answer you will get. This years Prep Team is BY FAR the most skilled the most tenacious group of boys they have had. Watching them play is a joy and this year is the haapiest my kid has ever had since his mite and squirts days.... So right there makes it worth it for my wife and I.
hopefully the education at THA is better than the spelling and grammar in this post.
boy was that difficult to read...
Lol it’s all good. I’m ok where I’m at and both my kids are at. Daughter at a D1 full ride and a son I couldn’t be more proud of where he is at and where he is going. Enjoy your year gentleman.
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Nobody was questioning your kids.
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THA=Hot Garbage 🗑. Nice “online†education. Do they pass out Walmart applications when your punk asz kid doesn’t go anywhere after that poor excuse of an Academy?
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THA=Hot Garbage 🗑. Nice “online†education. Do they pass out Walmart applications when your punk asz kid doesn’t go anywhere after that poor excuse of an Academy?
😂😂😂😂
To bad kids are taking AP classes at SLTHS. I take it your Walmart application got denied???
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THA=Hot Garbage 🗑. Nice “online†education. Do they pass out Walmart applications when your punk asz kid doesn’t go anywhere after that poor excuse of an Academy?
😂😂😂😂
To bad kids are taking AP classes at SLTHS. I take it your Walmart application got denied???
you can get a masters “online†too - doesn’t mean a legitimate corporation puts any value on it...
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Don’t make NAHL schedule? ??? How many kids that played at THA last year are playing in the NAHL? You would think with having a daughter with a D1 full ride you would be able to see how low quality the hockey played at THA is. Again why go to MN and not play a team from MN? Can’t THA compete with even a bad MN team? It’s not for exposure. D1/D3 coaches and USHL and NAHL scouts aren’t going to showcases that are lower level hockey then MN high school. It’s a waste of their time. Pay to play jrs scouts will be there because if parents will pay for bad hockey now, they will pay for their kid to play jrs. You don’t have to pay for legitimate jr hockey. So if you kids are having fun at THA that’s great. But to think kids are playing high quality hockey and moving kids to a real jr league isn’t happening.
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Awesome man thanks for your input.....^^^^^
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Don’t make NAHL schedule? ??? How many kids that played at THA last year are playing in the NAHL? You would think with having a daughter with a D1 full ride you would be able to see how low quality the hockey played at THA is. Again why go to MN and not play a team from MN? Can’t THA compete with even a bad MN team?
I have no problem with the legitimate questioning of THA hyperbole, but at least we should straighten out a few things. Their prep team is playing in the NAPHL. THA did play in an NAPHL tournament in the Prep School division, which is a new thing for the NAPHL this season. They are not going to play against AAA caliber teams unless they were to move to a higher division. Playing in a tournament no matter where it is, is not the same as going to a state and setting up scrimmages. You play who you draw, and there are only a few teams from Minny that play in the NAPHL.
With that said, any program has to start somewhere, and while the Prep division is new and undoubtably weaker than the AAA/AA divisions, THA did well at least in the tournament. In the next few years we will see whether players move onto NAHL teams from THA, but there is no debating that you can move from the NAHL to College hockey (Div1 & Div3).
Overall, I would have to say that THA has come a long way in a short amount of time, and if anything, are farther along at this point than I would have expected them to be. From an educational standpoint, I don't see much difference between what they are doing, and the gazillion people these days who home school their kids. THA is billed as a hockey academy, not a Prep school that happens to have hockey, so it's not like they are projecting themselves to be something that they aren't.
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NAPHL Teams: http://naphl.com/teams/ (http://naphl.com/teams/)
NAHLPrep Teams: http://nahlprep.com/teams/ (http://nahlprep.com/teams/)
Very different League.
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In defense of the crew here at Calhockey. Most people use this board to promote their own choices and crap on other peoples’ choices. It’s entertaining and occasionally informative. Once you see the trend line it becomes easier to just enjoy.
The excitement of the sport and the belief in our kids keep bringing us back. There is something unifying in that.
May all of you find reason to brag and whine!! I know I will.
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Shreveport has the Mudbugs and Alaska has junior teams. Why aren't there any T1 & T2 junior teams in California?
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Good points Knuckle, although California has an inordinate number of AHL teams in Socal. Additionally the NAHL & USHL have essentially no West Coast presence.
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THA is hot garbage 🗑 stop trying to pump it up. Where’s their prom at this year? Do they even have girls at the Garbage can? Nice high school experience! LOL Losers.
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I don’t think THA is bad. But there are many post talking about jr team and college interest in the THA kids.
And great showing how great they were in MN. But when asked it’s play to play jr, not legitimate jr. And they did play good in MN, but didn’t play any MN teams. Development is another word mentioned a lot about THA....so far it looks like on kid moved to WSHL. Oh and a kid to AAA Midget out east and Toronto. So in THA eyes any AAA midget team in Toronto or out east is better then THA. Kings and Ducks are better then many midget teams from Toronto and eartern teams. Kids from CA will move on to USHL and D1 if good enough. UofMN has 3 non MN kids on their roster. 1 of the 3 is from CA.