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Title: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: A1Hockey Fan on April 30, 2019, 09:13:50 AM
It's getting close to that time...just trying to see who will have what teams?


What are your thoughts?
Title: Re: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: mom2five on May 06, 2019, 08:08:32 PM
I just got an email that Junior Reign will have a Flight I AA (copy/pasted from the email:
* Also playing in the 16AA NAPHL Showcase Division ) and a Flight II AA and an A team. Empire will have one AA team. OCHC will have one AA team instead of two. It looks like Wave is trying to field '03 and '04 AA teams.


*edited to fix mistakes
Title: Re: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: area51 on May 07, 2019, 09:19:03 AM
wow, Wildcats have been guaranteed a Flight 1 team!
Title: Re: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: SkatingDad on May 10, 2019, 01:55:57 PM
South:
Ducks(1)
Ducks(2)
Empire
Flyers
Heat
Kings(1)
Kings(2)
Leafs
Mariners
OCHC
Reign
Saints
Wave(1)
Wave(2)


North:
Blackhawks
GSE (1)
GSE (2)
Sharks
Title: Re: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: A1Hockey Fan on May 14, 2019, 12:14:08 PM
wow, Wildcats have been guaranteed a Flight 1 team!




I don't think there is a flight system for 16U. Unless there will be new rules this year?
Title: Re: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: SkatingDad on May 14, 2019, 01:23:05 PM
wow, Wildcats have been guaranteed a Flight 1 team!




I don't think there is a flight system for 16U. Unless there will be new rules this year?


I think it depends on the number of teams.  I hope they scrap the entire flight system...
Title: Re: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: lcadad on May 14, 2019, 01:36:48 PM
wow, Wildcats have been guaranteed a Flight 1 team!


I don't think there is a flight system for 16U. Unless there will be new rules this year?


CAHA in its infinite wisdom reserves the right to Flight or not based on --- well nobody really knows.


12u had 18 teams, 14u had 19 teams and 16u had 16 teams, so I guess they just looked at the number and found that Flighting 16u was more trouble than it was worth, even though if Flighting was worthwhile at any age group, it ought to be just as valid at 16u as it is at 14u. 
Title: Re: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: area51 on May 15, 2019, 09:13:33 AM
there wasn't a clear top and bottom to the bracket last season, very heavy middle group of teams, so they didn't flight the division. It should be different this year.
Title: Re: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: puckslapper on June 04, 2019, 06:23:41 AM
Where did the posts on Mariners partnering with Shattuck go? I went to the Mariner website and the info is still there but it’s disappeared from this site? Any thoughts on how that partnership affects teams for the upcoming season?
Title: Re: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: Pistonkev on June 04, 2019, 08:58:10 AM
South:
Ducks(1)
Ducks(2)
Empire
Gulls ?
Heat ?
Kings
Leafs ?
Mariners
OCHC
Reign(1)
Reign(2) ?
Saints ?
Wave(1)
Wave(2)


North:
Blackhawks
GSE
Sharks
Forgot Flyers I think they will have a team.
Title: Re: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: jvreagan on June 04, 2019, 05:40:42 PM
South:
Ducks(1)
Ducks(2)
Empire
Gulls ?
Heat ?
Kings
Leafs ?
Mariners
OCHC
Reign(1)
Reign(2) ?
Saints ?
Wave(1)
Wave(2)


North:
Blackhawks
GSE
Sharks
Forgot Flyers I think they will have a team.


GSE will have two teams
Title: Re: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: puckslapper on June 05, 2019, 07:33:29 AM
I found the Mariner/Shattuck information on another California hockey forum called calhockeytalk.com. Apparently that forum will post everything. So it looks like potentially 18 teams next season for 16AA. That should provide a lot of games and some good competition.
Title: Re: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: A1Hockey Fan on June 05, 2019, 02:02:43 PM
I found the Mariner/Shattuck information on another California hockey forum called calhockeytalk.com. Apparently that forum will post everything. So it looks like potentially 18 teams next season for 16AA. That should provide a lot of games and some good competition.


Some had said that there would probably be flights in the division...it wasn't the case last year so we shall see.
Title: Re: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: Fowlmood on June 11, 2019, 01:13:38 PM
They will most certainly flight it and get it wrong.  Nothing new here.
Title: Re: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: Teemu8 on June 13, 2019, 06:29:43 PM
Anyone notice that, on the CAHA site, when you click on the "tier II pre season evaluation weekend" it says it will be in San Jose?
Title: Re: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: Rats13 on June 13, 2019, 10:45:37 PM
Anyone notice that, on the CAHA site, when you click on the "tier II pre season evaluation weekend" it says it will be in San Jose?


Not surprising.  It was in NorCal  2 years ago and in simi last year which is almost socal  ::)
Title: Re: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: SkatingDad on June 14, 2019, 09:02:31 AM
Anyone notice that, on the CAHA site, when you click on the "tier II pre season evaluation weekend" it says it will be in San Jose?


Most likely, it was in Simi Valley last year.
Title: Re: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: lcadad on June 14, 2019, 10:02:04 AM
This is the 3rd year of the "Jamboree" system.  Of course the first year it was in Vacaville.  Then Simi/Valencia, and now back to Norcal.  Why?  There are at most 4-5 teams from Norcal involved, and frequently fewer than that, depending on the age group.  When people posit that Norcal has undue representation on the CAHA board, and that they have used their position to funnel money to the Norcal rinks at the expense of SoCal familes, they don't have to look further than this.  Given that that Socal teams outnumber the Norcal teams by a 4-1 ratio, Norcal ought to have a Jamboree about once every 4 years, not every other year. 
Title: Re: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: Teemu8 on June 14, 2019, 12:06:59 PM
I agree 100%...  But that 1st year was also in San Jose... Not Vacaville
Title: Re: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: TopCornzzz on June 14, 2019, 02:48:55 PM
Some simple math for CAHA to consider when making their decision to have every SOCAL AA Team travel to SJ for the "Jamboree".

45(ESTIMATED number of SoCal AA Teams traveling to SJ....PW, Bantam, Midget)
810(ESTIMATED number of SoCal AA players traveling to SJ....PW, Bantam, Midget....based on 18 player roster)
$1500(ESTIMATED cost for one parent and kid to travel to SJ for "Jamboree" weekend...flight, rental car, gas, hotels, food...)

$1,215,000(ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF MONEY SOCAL FAMILIES WILL SPEND TO PARTICIPATE IN THE "JAMBOREE" in San Jose!!)

These are just travel costs....there are club costs, missed work, missed school, etc. to consider as well.

Hopefully CAHA will see the financial stress this puts on most families and come up with a solution that is far more efficient and beneficial to the hockey families.

CAHA has a meeting coming up soon and I think any board member with an ounce of common sense will agree that there has to be a better way....
Title: Re: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: Fowlmood on June 14, 2019, 02:50:30 PM
Yuck!
Title: Re: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: TopCornzzz on June 14, 2019, 03:16:50 PM
While I have my calculator out....how about this.

18 teams x 18 players x 3 divisons=972 AA players in total

Charge $30/player for a CAHA Evaluation fee....$29,160

Mandate that teams play in Labor Day Tournaments in CA

Spend the $29,160 to send CAHA evaluators to watch games at the tournaments...3 for each division or 9 total!

$3240 per evaluator for expenses and compensation.....Pretty sure some competent evaluators may sign up...maybe even evaluators without connections to clubs!

This would save every SoCal AA family an estimated $1470 in 2019!!!!
Title: Re: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: Time Flies on June 14, 2019, 04:38:49 PM
Topcornzzz, hear hear. By far the two best posts I have read. Thank you for a slice of sanity. Let’s hope the right people are also reading your posts.
Title: Re: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: lcadad on June 14, 2019, 05:49:55 PM
I agree 100%...  But that 1st year was also in San Jose... Not Vacaville


Yes, I seem to have blocked that out already  :P .  I guess I conflated that with the further indignity that there were no Flight2 teams in either PW or Bantam that year, and yet they still made us play a CAHA weekend in Vacaville -- because?  $$$$$
 
Title: Re: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: Teemu8 on June 14, 2019, 07:27:17 PM
I agree 100%...  But that 1st year was also in San Jose... Not Vacaville


Yes, I seem to have blocked that ought already  :P .  I guess I conflated that with the further indignity that there were no Flight2 teams in either PW or Bantam that year, and yet they still made us play a CAHA weekend in Vacaville -- because?  $$$$$


Yep... That was complete bs. 
Title: Re: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: SkatingDad on June 26, 2019, 10:24:44 AM

WTF? 3 CAHA Weekends in Vacaville. 

http://caha.com/tierIIweekends.pl (http://caha.com/tierIIweekends.pl)
Title: Re: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: SkatingDad on June 26, 2019, 02:13:49 PM

WTF? 3 CAHA Weekends in Vacaville. 

http://caha.com/tierIIweekends.pl (http://caha.com/tierIIweekends.pl)


Looks like they changed it to something much more generic.
Title: Re: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: Teemu8 on August 18, 2019, 10:45:16 PM
Big stick tap to CAHA for getting the schedule out in a timely nanner.    >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: mom2five on August 23, 2019, 04:41:26 PM
Has anyone heard that 16U will not have games on Monday? Someone mentioned that in the PW board, but there is still no schedule posted at the link on the CAHA site. It would really be great to know for travel purposes and to maybe save a night of hotel fees!
Title: Re: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: Rats13 on August 23, 2019, 05:52:21 PM
Has anyone heard that 16U will not have games on Monday? Someone mentioned that in the PW board, but there is still no schedule posted at the link on the CAHA site. It would really be great to know for travel purposes and to maybe save a night of hotel fees!


Your manager should know the last game slot for your division
Title: Re: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: Teemu8 on August 25, 2019, 11:44:34 AM
Scrimmage scores??


Ducks (1) 6.. Leafs 2


Ducks (2) 0..  Wave (2)  0
Title: Re: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: Fowlmood on August 27, 2019, 02:18:20 PM
I heard Jr. Reign (2) 2  -  Valencia 1

Title: Re: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: SkatingDad on August 27, 2019, 02:53:56 PM
I heard Jr. Reign (2) 2  -  Valencia 1


Only 1 Jr. Reign team now
Title: Re: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: Fowlmood on August 28, 2019, 09:20:27 AM
Oops.  Correction Jr. Reign 1 won 2-1 over Valencia.
Title: Re: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: HC_HOCK3Y on September 21, 2019, 06:37:14 PM
So the elephant in the room is being ignored!!!
Big fight past weekend anyone care to weigh in that was there!!!!
Title: Re: What 16U teams for 2019-2020?
Post by: Teemu8 on September 22, 2019, 05:55:07 PM
So the elephant in the room is being ignored!!!
Big fight past weekend anyone care to weigh in that was there!!!!


Heard a maple leaf ran over Empire Goalie.. The goalies brother jumped in to defend him.. And during the mele some one struck the ref.  By all accounts I heard the kid did not hit the ref in purpose.  Thats all I know and its second /3rd hand info.