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Title: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: #4BobbyOrr on August 30, 2019, 06:27:59 PM
trans and I back in the same division let's fire this shit up!  Big game on Saturday - see you at the rink. Maybe your kid will be the first one to score on us this year.


What else going on out in Pee Wee A land?
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: Slapper on August 31, 2019, 12:00:06 AM
Predictions for the year???
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: FrozenMom18 on September 03, 2019, 05:50:46 PM
How did everyone look this weekend?
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: #4BobbyOrr on September 03, 2019, 09:40:35 PM
Empire looked good. Gulls. Wave. Paramount looked ok.
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: trans4761 on September 04, 2019, 11:27:17 AM
Empire looked good. Gulls. Wave. Paramount looked ok.

At this point (very early)think there is solid top 5.  B.O.'s picks plus SDIA and ,08 Wave. Some small teams in size.  At this level most kids do not know difference between checking and playing "physical". Once they do, as the year goes on, smaller teams will have trouble.  JMO
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: trans4761 on September 06, 2019, 09:47:35 PM
If true about 6 AA teams being dropped to A. It will make for a VERY competitive PWA division.  There will be some good hockey. Now, do any teams in A get sent to BB ?





Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: trans4761 on September 16, 2019, 09:00:51 AM
Weekend scores anyone ,????


On a side note, when  A team drops from AA to A I child is TO BE RELEASED.  Why is it that the same Yenta who thinks she is the end all be all,  keeps hindering a child's rights to move on.  This is a child well being Yenta is messing with.  I know its painful but look at your self in the mirror
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: Slapper on September 16, 2019, 09:46:15 PM
Heard 4 SoCal AA teams and  2 NoCal teams were relegated.  Hopefully they do the same in A and BB to even out the brackets. Not fun watching kids get beat down especially at this age group when it should be about development and not what level they are playing..
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: FrozenMom18 on September 20, 2019, 03:02:05 PM
With the 4 AA teams dropping have we heard if those teams are staying intact at the A level or did they leave kids looking for new homes?
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: Socalhockey96 on October 04, 2019, 12:31:26 PM
With regular season about to start do we know if any teams are dropping down? There are definitely teams that should consider it!
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: FrozenMom18 on October 04, 2019, 03:18:17 PM
Looks like 2 teams dropped from A- SDIA and Saints. Based on standings I'm surprised a couple others did not move down.
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: trans4761 on October 04, 2019, 03:41:57 PM
IMO
There were already 4 to 5 good teams already in "A".  With a few AA teams dropping should make for a very competitive division.  I would think over 5-6 losses would put a team out of the playoffs.
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: Slapper on October 06, 2019, 01:27:52 PM
Both OCHC teams and Kings 1 should have been forced down also, but thats my humble opinion..
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: 2 Cups in LA on October 07, 2019, 03:04:49 PM
Slapper PWA has become the new BB division... "You can thank PWAA"   Just watch some Live Barn games during CAHA Weekends like I do and you will see where I'm coming from.
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: Slapper on October 07, 2019, 04:28:30 PM
I dont disagree 2 cups...
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: Rats13 on October 07, 2019, 09:11:30 PM
If you look in the standings in the past years there are always teams at the bottom of AA and A that go 0’fer and clearly should have moved down.  This isn’t something that’s new.
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: trans4761 on October 08, 2019, 08:37:39 AM
Slapper PWA has become the new BB division... "You can thank PWAA"   Just watch some Live Barn games during CAHA Weekends like I do and you will see where I'm coming from.
Hope the games you were watching were your kids. If not, read a book.
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: 2 Cups in LA on October 08, 2019, 10:15:37 AM
Trans4761...   All the people who comment on this site need to read more books including yourself.
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: trans4761 on October 08, 2019, 11:05:29 AM
Trans4761...   All the people who comment on this site need to read more books including yourself.
Some more than others :P
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: trans4761 on October 09, 2019, 03:40:13 PM
This weeks picks....


LIONS                  VS              EMPIRE            EMPIRE BY ALOT
EMPIRE                VS             OC1.                  EMPIRE BY 5
J FLYERS2.          VS            DA BEARS.        BEARS BY 4
LADY DUCKS.     VS.            SDIA                  SDIA BY 4
ICE DOGS.            VS           JR DUCKS4       ID BY 1
JR DUCKS2          VS           JR DUCKS3.      JD2 BY 5
JR GULLS2.          VS.         JREIGN              GULLS BY 5(BF still owes me $)
FLYERS1.               VS.         JR CONDORD.  CONDORS BY 3
JR DUCKS1            VS         WAVE2            JD BY 1
JR GULLS1.            VS.        WAVE 1.          GULLS BY 1
JK1.                         VS.       JK2                   JK2 BY 5


GOOD LUCK EVERYONE
reserve the right to change picks before Sat.
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: trans4761 on October 14, 2019, 09:21:33 AM
Is that score correct ?


Gulls 2.    23
Benny's     0


Now, BF still owes me $$, but DAMN !!
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: Rats13 on October 14, 2019, 09:49:53 AM
Is that score correct ?


Gulls 2.    23
Benny's     0


Now, BF still owes me $$, but DAMN !!


Score sheet says 13-0  :-\
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: trans4761 on October 14, 2019, 10:21:50 AM
Is that score correct ?


Gulls 2.    23
Benny's     0


Now, BF still owes me $$, but DAMN !!


Score sheet says 13-0  :-\


Scorekeeper's hand cramped after 13 ??


Any eye witnesses  ?



Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: Slapper on October 14, 2019, 08:47:07 PM
Really dislike how long it takes this year to get scores, stats and standings... SCAHA must still have AOL and dial up..
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: Hockeymomx on October 14, 2019, 09:41:56 PM
This season both team mangers have to input stats (each inputs the stats for their own team), so it is taking much longer for the stats to show up.  Of course, I’m not sure how long it takes SCAHA once both managers have input the stats, so they still could be the cause of the delay.
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: trans4761 on October 17, 2019, 11:22:28 AM
Not bad for not knowing all teams
6-2-1


This weeks pics


Jflyers2.              Vs.         Jk1        Flyers by 1


Jcondors.                           JD4      Birdys by 3


DaBears                Vs          JK2      JK by 2


JGulls                                   Ice dogs.  Gulls by 2


Empire                    Vs         JD3        EMPIRE BY 5


JGULLS.1                             OC           GULLS BY 1


WAVE1.                                  SDIA       WAVE BY 2


OC2.                                        GOLD RUSH.   GR BY 6


JFLYERS.         VS.                 JDUCKS1        JF BY 1




GOOD LUCK EVERYONE             
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: Carl Henry on October 17, 2019, 02:32:13 PM
Trans4761, we need you to join the PeeWee AA forum and start also giving spreads or line.
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: trans4761 on October 17, 2019, 09:15:35 PM
Trans4761, we need you to join the PeeWee AA forum and start also giving spreads or line.


Sorry, no horse in that race.  Plus I was told I needed to read more.
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: Slapper on October 18, 2019, 10:21:04 AM
Trans, do you have a gamling app we can put money on using your lines for 12 year old hockey??? (Ha).....


Good job on week one..

Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: trans4761 on October 18, 2019, 11:14:23 AM
Trans, do you have a gamling app we can put money on using your lines for 12 year old hockey??? (Ha).....


Good job on week one..
NEVER, say no to cash.
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: Slapper on October 21, 2019, 12:11:25 PM
How did the weekend go for everyone?

Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: Slapper on October 26, 2019, 03:19:57 PM
Since Trans hasn't done his predictions, I will give it a shot.
Goldrush by 2 over Ducks
Ducks (1) by 1 Over Gulls
SdIA 7+ over Reign
Ducks (4) 7+ over OC
Condors by 5 over Flyers
Gulls (2) by 2 over kings (2)
Ducks (2) tie with Wave (2)
Wave (1) 7+ over OC
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: Slapper on October 26, 2019, 03:21:55 PM
Oops missed Bears by 1 over flyers
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: #4BobbyOrr on October 27, 2019, 06:42:41 PM
Kings2 6-2 over Gulls2
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: trans4761 on October 28, 2019, 01:00:37 PM
Kings2 6-2 over Gulls2
Sweet, thanx B.O., that moves my kids team up a notch. :)
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: trans4761 on October 29, 2019, 09:32:41 AM
Scaha site has Jr Riegn beating SDIA 1 0.
Anyone one know if this is correct ?
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: Beer Leaguer on October 29, 2019, 11:20:54 AM
Both managers I think need to upload the game stats this year so it should be confirmed. At least that’s what I’ve been told.
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: FrozenMom18 on October 29, 2019, 11:53:26 AM
With the way the site has been this season I wouldn't say it's confirmed until the scoreboard page says final. It looks like one team hasn't input their stats.
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: BladesofSteel66 on October 30, 2019, 12:45:53 PM
SCAHA's website is average at best.  It shouldn't take 5 days to finalize scores. 


Oh, and hello all. 
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: BladesofSteel66 on October 30, 2019, 01:17:19 PM
Quality competition lasts only 10-20 teams deep.  A 16 team league is typically best.  4-5 teams usually able to compete, but are bottom feeders while 4-6 teams at the top as clear-cut teams for a championship. 


Allowing teams to choose where to be and putting 20+ teams in a league is moronic.  I too am sick of seeing a RUNNING CLOCK for every 3rd period because teams should have dropped down.  Total garbage. 


The top 8 teams in A  are gonna have an amazing playoffs.  The top 3-4 will prove to be capable of playing at the AA level (as middle of the ack AA teams) and that's how it should be.  There should be overlap.  The top 3-4 teams in A should be 5-10 capable in AA.  Like it or not, SCAHA ruins this by putting 20+ teams in a division. 


I don't need to drive 100+ miles to watch my kid get 2 shifts during a running clock 3rd period.  If you are arrogant enough to play in the wrong division, your team should feel the natural consequences of a 20-0 beating.  SCAHA and the running clock coddles and enables poor choices for division placement. 
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: trans4761 on October 31, 2019, 08:58:24 AM
This weeks picks


JD2.                  VS.        GRUSH.               RUSH BY 6


BENNYS.                        JD4.                     JD BY 3


EMPIRE.            VS.       SDIA.                    EMPIRE BY 4


JD3.                                IDOGS.                  Dogs by 2


JD1.                               DaBEARS               YOGGIES BY 3


JK1.                VS          JGULLS1.              Gulls by 1


FLYERS2.                      OC1.                       JF BY 1


WAVE2.           VS         CONDORS             Birds by 4


Good luck everyone


Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: BladesofSteel66 on October 31, 2019, 01:53:01 PM
These were my PRESEASON ranking before the drop-downs. 
Team
1
Empire HC
2
Goldrush
3
Jr. Kings (2)
4
Jr. Ducks (2)
5
Jr. Ducks (1)
6
Bears
7
Wave (1)
8
Jr. Gulls (1)
9
SDIA (1)
10
Flyers (1)
11
OC Hockey (1)
12
Jr. Ducks (3)
13
Ice Dogs
14
Flyers (2)
15
Saints
16
Wave (2)
17
SDIA (2)
18
OC Hockey (2)
19
Jr. Kings (1)

I'd like to update a weekly top 10 with the (MHR#)  Will update tonight!
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: BladesofSteel66 on October 31, 2019, 05:08:02 PM
WEEK 5 POWER RANKINGS and MHR#
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: FrozenMom18 on November 04, 2019, 03:14:17 PM
How'd the weekend go for everyone?
Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
Post by: BladesofSteel66 on November 05, 2019, 12:19:34 PM
WEEK 5 POWER RANKINGS and MHR:

  • [size=0pt]EHC #65[/size]
  • [size=0pt]Goldrush #56[/size]
  • [size=0pt]Condors #98[/size]
  • [size=0pt]Wave1 #106[/size]
  • [size=0pt]SDIA #192[/size]
  • [size=0pt]Ducks4 #220[/size]
  • [size=0pt]Kings2 #104[/size]
  • [size=0pt]Gulls1 #144[/size]
  • [size=0pt]Ducks3 #239[/size]
  • [size=0pt]Gulls2 #285[/size]
1.    [/font]EHC  W(5-2 vs SDIA)
2.    [/font]Goldrush  W(6-1 vs Ducks2)
3.    [/font]Condors  W(4-1) vs Wv2)
4.    [/font]Wave1  (idle)
5.    [/font]SDIA  L(2-5 vs EHC)
6.    [/font]Ducks4 W(10-0 vs Reign)
7.    [/font]Kings2 (idle)
8.    [/font]Gulls1 W(7-1 vs Kings1)
9.    [/font]Ducks3 W(4-1) vs ID)
10. [/size]Gulls2 (idle)
[/size]Yep, you guessed it, FIVE teams were idle.  If you are asking, the answer is yes, there could have and should have been more games, but OH WELL!
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on November 07, 2019, 10:15:36 AM
    This weeks picks
    Last week went 6-2


    GULLS2.                VS             OC2               GULLS BY 5


    EPWAVE.                                 JK1.             EPS BY 6


    GULLS1                                    JD4             DUCKS BY 3


    JD1                       VS                Jk2             JK BY 6


    BENNYS.                                   JFLYERS2   JFs BY 6


    WAVE2                                       JD4              JDs by 3


    GOLDRUSH            VS               JF1              RUSH BY 8


    OC1.                                             SDIS.          SDIA BY 6


    ICEDOGS.                VS               DaBEARS   DOGS BY2


    OC2.                                              JK2.           JK BY 9


    GOOD LUCK EVERYONE.



    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on November 07, 2019, 12:28:22 PM
    Week 6 POWER RANKINGS and MHR!


    1. EHC  86
    2. Goldrush  84
    3. Condors  108
    4. Wave1  125
    5. Gulls1  199
    6. Ducks4  135
    7. Kings2  132
    8. Ducks3  280
    9. SDIA  249
    10. Gulls2  326
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on November 11, 2019, 12:38:47 PM
    B.O.....
    Is that score correct ?....


    OC2      13
    JK2       11
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on November 11, 2019, 04:08:40 PM
    B.O.....
    Is that score correct ?....


    OC2      13
    JK2       11


    Probably classic SCAHA double entry.  Terrible system this year. Also, why were teams on a bye, but Kings2 played 2 games in one day?  Moronic. Terrible. Waste. 


    Maybe that's why the score is so odd for that game.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on November 11, 2019, 08:27:04 PM
    B.O.....
    Is that score correct ?....


    OC2      13
    JK2       11


    Probably classic SCAHA double entry.  Terrible system this year. Also, why were teams on a bye, but Kings2 played 2 games in one day?  Moronic. Terrible. Waste. 


    Maybe that's why the score is so odd for that game.
    Gotta balance out schedule, ice slots.
      No big deal.  Happens all the time,  2 games in tournaments.   If you want your lily Gretzky to play tier hockey, get use to it.  Hey next week Wave 1 has a tough morning vs JK2 then a scrimmage vs Goldrush later that evening.   Enjoy the ride.  In a few years your gonna wish you had 2 games a few hours apart.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on November 12, 2019, 01:23:56 PM
    B.O.....
    Is that score correct ?....


    OC2      13
    JK2       11



    Probably classic SCAHA double entry.  Terrible system this year. Also, why were teams on a bye, but Kings2 played 2 games in one day?  Moronic. Terrible. Waste. 


    Maybe that's why the score is so odd for that game.
    Gotta balance out schedule, ice slots.
      No big deal.  Happens all the time,  2 games in tournaments.   If you want your lily Gretzky to play tier hockey, get use to it.  Hey next week Wave 1 has a tough morning vs JK2 then a scrimmage vs Goldrush later that evening.   Enjoy the ride.  In a few years your gonna wish you had 2 games a few hours apart.



    Yes.  I agree, Gretzky was a lily.  Lemieux was far superior in every way. 
    As for ice slots, there is plenty to go around.  That's just poor scheduling. 
    As for multiple games in a day, it happens at every tournament (not just tier hockey).  Nothing to get used to there. 
    If anyone avoids AA/AAA its probably not to chase CAHA weekends all over CA to play 4 games in 2-3 days while the rest of the month is wasted on SCAHA throw away meaningless games and scrimmages.  It's a pretty miserable system not for everyone; just those seeking "exposure." 


    I love the consistency of 1 game every weekend. 

    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on November 12, 2019, 01:52:27 PM
    Also, the joke was that there is no way in a million years OC was beating JK2, especially by scoring 13 goals.  LOLOLz  I am surprised they scored 3.  I am blown away by the fact that it was a 4-3 game early in the 2nd before Kings scored 7 straight. 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on November 14, 2019, 01:53:10 PM
    THIS WEEKS PICKS
    6-3 last week :(


    JR CONDORS.              VS         ICE DOGS. CONDORD BY 4


    JD1.                                             OC1.         JD1 BY2


    JR REIGN            VS                   JR FLYERS. JFLYERS BY 2


    JR GULLS.1          VS                  EMPIRE          EMPIRE BY 5


    SDIA.                     VS.                 JR GULLS2     JG2 BY 2


    WAVE 1                 VS.                 JK2
    *Game  of the week *     EpperlyWave by 2


    JK1.                         VS                 WAVE 2.    WAVE2 BY 4


    Good luck everyone

    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on November 18, 2019, 09:57:51 AM
    If your little Gretzky chooses to hacks at a goalie
    After puck is covered, neither baby Gretz nor Daddy Gretz should be surprised when he gets cracked.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Socalhockey96 on November 18, 2019, 11:10:19 AM
    Hey Trans4761 can you elaborate? Which game did this happen in?
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: alfirst on November 18, 2019, 12:01:16 PM
    I think little Gretzky need to be change to little McDavid as all the teams has #97, none that I saw has #99
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Maverick on November 18, 2019, 12:14:52 PM
    If your little Gretzky chooses to hacks at a goalie
    After puck is covered, neither baby Gretz nor Daddy Gretz should be surprised when he gets cracked.


    hopefully the goalie got em...thats how kids learn
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on November 19, 2019, 08:13:03 AM
    Ahhhh, there's nothing like flying into the zone and taking a clapper from 10 feet and ringing it off the goalie's mask to send a message.  It's the ol' Phil Esposito way. 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on November 19, 2019, 10:51:53 AM
    Ahhhh, there's nothing like flying into the zone and taking a clapper from 10 feet and ringing it off the goalie's mask to send a message.  It's the ol' Phil Esposito way.
    Period 1
        Elitist South Orange County parent..." That's bullshit ref.....call something !"


    Period 2
    Lil Gretz chopping wood at our goalie, lil Gretz again gets what coming to him and more.


    Elitist South Orange County parent. "Call something before it gets out of hand !"


    Me " Dont want to get cracked, dont hit our goalie.  If he does it again, I'm guessing he's going to get what's coming to him......again. "


    Elitist South Orange County dad (in his skinny jeans, chanclas and tribal tats) reacts by saying something under his breath.
     
    ....PUSSY


     **Btw chanclas is spanish for flip flops**



    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on November 19, 2019, 01:17:04 PM
    SCAHA impressive on the scores up by today.  Just not "final" yet. 


    It is becoming VERY clear that there are 5-7 teams that flat-out-do-not-belong in "A" which makes for a miserable experience.  That Flyers (2) team is 3-3, but played and beat the 3 worst teams in the league.  Hilarious and tragic all at the same time... maybe they should be in a flight together (see below).


    I will happily call out these clubs and parents:


    OCHC 1 & 2
    Kings 1
    Reign
    Flyers 1 & 2


    You are putting BB talent teams out there and making hockey an awful experience for those players (unless losing games by 10+ goals is fun for kids); I could be wrong, but I'm not.  Why?  I honestly must know WHY?!?!?  Did the club/coaches tell you a fancy story of glory and promise?  Are you "too good" for BB/B?  Were there no other options/places/teams for your kids to play? 


    It was extremely obvious during the preseason which teams needed to drop, yet somehow they didn't get that memo.  SCAHA needs to cap a 16 team MAX in every division.  Determine it after preseason and call it "PW A Playoff Flight" and the rest get put into a "PW A Travel Flight" for those who refuse to properly place their player(s) in an appropriate zone for proximal development.  To essssplain, if your player cannot skate/has trouble skating and shooting/stick-handling the puck, PUTTING HIM/HER IN A HIGHER DIVISION WILL NOT MAGICALLY MAKE THEM BETTER.  (It's actually dangerous and your kid will get hurt.)  Putting the player in a division where competition is SIMILAR promotes skill development and the ability to perform AT LEVEL is the key to player improvement. 


    Ask yourselves, does your kid ever touch the puck or even get a shot off during the game?  For those bottom dwellers, when playing top 8 playoff caliber A teams, the answer is clearly "nope."  Don't do that to your kid.  Someone should call CPS on those clubs. 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: stayfrosty47 on November 19, 2019, 01:49:01 PM
    Shame on the coaches and club  yes, but it’s not always up to the parents. I am part of one of these teams. Parents asked to be dropped. Coaches said no. Probably new if we got a release most would not resign at a lower level. Not because of the letter, but because the team is a mess.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Hockeydad30 on November 19, 2019, 02:18:50 PM
    Exactly unless all the parents on the team agree to drop and will resign the club and coach will not drop in fear of losing team altogether.  Unfortunately this is the same in the Aa division there are 4 plus teams in same situation should have been playing peewee a instead of aa IMHO. 


    I would say if your team is a bubble team and if they played in the division lower and would win almost every game by 7-10 goals would that be right or do you risk playing up a division knowing that you may end up a .500 team and could steal a game or two from top 8 in division who are overlooking you. 




    In my opinion Scaha and cash need to be more involved pushing clubs teams where they belong from top to bottom and if you are going to flight any division it should be the B level.  One problem is neither caha or scaha will do this for one simple reason this could cause teams to fold and them and the clubs to lose out on $$$$$$$$$$$$. 

    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on November 20, 2019, 10:08:53 AM

    I would say if your team is a bubble team and if they played in the division lower and would win almost every game by 7-10 goals would that be right or do you risk playing up a division knowing that you may end up a .500 team and could steal a game or two from top 8 in division who are overlooking you. 



    This point is valid on the surface, but dig deeper.  That bubble team (top 1-4 teams in a division) typically is/are the teams that drop down or are simply correctly placed.  They might be beating teams by 7-10 goals, but which teams?  Certainly not any of the top 10 teams in the division.  It is almost always the teams at the bottom (15-20+ place in a division) that should NOT be there in the first place. 


    Winning 5-1 is a solid win, not really a beat down.  Typically the teams that do not belong end up getting beat with a running clock in the 3rd.


    In EVERY division, the top 3-4 teams could win games at the higher level. Sure, .500 maybe/maybe not, probably, but if the divisions are set up accurately, that SHOULD be the case.  That's the "zone."  That's equal levels of competition on the ice; not running clocks. 


    Some of the teams at the bottoms of divisions are so bad, they can drop down and would be lucky to be .500..... yikes.



    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: HockeyDad73 on November 20, 2019, 11:52:52 AM
    Case in Point, the Reign started the season at PWAA, dropped to A and currently at the bottom with no wins.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on November 20, 2019, 12:21:40 PM
    Case in Point, the Reign started the season at PWAA, dropped to A and currently at the bottom with no wins.


     :o ;D ;D   Don't get me started on that club... ::)
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on November 20, 2019, 12:54:44 PM
    POWER RANKINGS!!!  and MHR#


    1. EHC (W5-1 vGulls1) 67
    2. Goldrush (idle) 87
    3. Condors (W7-0 v ID) 122
    4. Wave1 (W3-1 v Kings2)
    5. Ducks4 (idle) 273
    6. Kings2 (L1-3 v Wave1) 116
    7. Gulls2 (W3-0 v SDIA) 377
    8. Ducks3 (idle) 278
    9. Gulls1 (L1-5 v EHC) 215
    10. SDIA (L0-3 v Gullls2) 235


    No new teams.  These seem to be the top 10 for sure.  Maybe Bears can sneak in, but I doubt it.  Also, very strong possibility these are the 8 playoff teams. 
    GotW 11/24
    (4)Wave1 v (1)EHC
    (8)Ducks3 v (3)Condors

    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on November 20, 2019, 01:06:02 PM
    BOTTOM 5
    (in the spirit of the fun ESPN CFB site)


    1. Reign ... -40 and only 3 goals?  Says it all *BB* cough *BB*
    2. OCHC2 ... 6 for 6 on loses that included a running clock  -YIKES
    3. Kings1 ...  been shutout 2x and scored 1G 2 other times.  Offense? 
    4. OCHC1 ... in 4 games you were either shutout or had a running clock
    5. Flyers2 ... so, you're record is 3-3, BUT you beat 3 teams on this list lol.
    ...................Otherwise? 3 losses were 2 running clocks and a shutout -OUCH
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Slapper on November 20, 2019, 06:28:40 PM
    Blades of Steel, I agree and very well put.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on November 21, 2019, 09:38:15 AM
    This works picks


    7-0 last week


    SDIA.             VS.               JK1        SDIA BY 6


    GR.                                      JG1        RUSH BY 4


    JD4                VS.               FLYERS1.  JD4 BY 6


    WAVE1                               EMPIRE.   EMPIRE BY 1
                 ***game of the week **


    JD3                      VS           JR CON  JC BY 3


    JF2.                                      JD2        JF BY 3


    ICE DOGS.           VS.          OC1.       DOGS BY 5


    WAVE2                                 JGULLS2   GULLS BY 2


    OC2                       VS           JD1.        JD BY 4


    GOOD LUCK EVERYONE
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Hockeydad30 on November 21, 2019, 01:21:16 PM
    Case in Point, the Reign started the season at PWAA, dropped to A and currently at the bottom with no wins.
    I can see your point however you were complaining about running clock and I wasnt talking about just beating the bottom teams by that many goals I was talking more about the whole division minus the top 3-4 in the division. This would make every game for the team that played in the lower division to be running clock so you cant win either way.  I have an example of this for you.  I looked at the preseason for the teams that moved up division and are not doing well at all since moving up.   As the Flyers are on your list lets pick their current BB team.  In preseason they played in Peewee B and beat every team by more then 8 goals that they played 5 games 59 goals for and only 4 against.  Now in peewee BB they are 0-6 with -18 goal differential.  so what would you propose for that team to play down and be in a situation of running clock every game or play up and lose every game by average of 3 goals.  This is where the true problem arises for the bubble teams the in between divisions.

    Now for my opinion the best way to handle all of this is to have these bubble teams play in the lower division for preseason and move up  after proving that every game in the lower division is a 5 plus goal differential.  Another option could be a forced play in game from SCAHA for the bottom teams ( teams getting beat with high differential in preseason) must play one of the top teams in the lower division and win in order to stay in the higher division. 

    Don't get me wrong I am with you about having to watch either your kid blow out team that doesn't belong or be on the other side of the beating. And in my many years of being involved in travel hockey my kid has been on both sides of the spectrum.



    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on November 21, 2019, 02:33:19 PM
    Case in Point, the Reign started the season at PWAA, dropped to A and currently at the bottom with no wins.
    I can see your point however you were complaining about running clock and I wasnt talking about just beating the bottom teams by that many goals I was talking more about the whole division minus the top 3-4 in the division. This would make every game for the team that played in the lower division to be running clock so you cant win either way.  I have an example of this for you.  I looked at the preseason for the teams that moved up division and are not doing well at all since moving up.   As the Flyers are on your list lets pick their current BB team.  In preseason they played in Peewee B and beat every team by more then 8 goals that they played 5 games 59 goals for and only 4 against.  Now in peewee BB they are 0-6 with -18 goal differential.  so what would you propose for that team to play down and be in a situation of running clock every game or play up and lose every game by average of 3 goals.  This is where the true problem arises for the bubble teams the in between divisions.

    Now for my opinion the best way to handle all of this is to have these bubble teams play in the lower division for preseason and move up  after proving that every game in the lower division is a 5 plus goal differential.  Another option could be a forced play in game from SCAHA for the bottom teams ( teams getting beat with high differential in preseason) must play one of the top teams in the lower division and win in order to stay in the higher division. 

    Don't get me wrong I am with you about having to watch either your kid blow out team that doesn't belong or be on the other side of the beating. And in my many years of being involved in travel hockey my kid has been on both sides of the spectrum.
    Every year you hear the same shit.  Fact is in every league,  in every sport, even in the pros there are young to be top teams, middle teams and lower teams.  Really nothing you can do, unless you want to do a 40+ league season (too many), then split top and bottom half at mid season. It is what it is. Always going to be really good teams and poor teams.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Rats13 on November 21, 2019, 03:06:00 PM
    Case in Point, the Reign started the season at PWAA, dropped to A and currently at the bottom with no wins.
    I can see your point however you were complaining about running clock and I wasnt talking about just beating the bottom teams by that many goals I was talking more about the whole division minus the top 3-4 in the division. This would make every game for the team that played in the lower division to be running clock so you cant win either way.  I have an example of this for you.  I looked at the preseason for the teams that moved up division and are not doing well at all since moving up.   As the Flyers are on your list lets pick their current BB team.  In preseason they played in Peewee B and beat every team by more then 8 goals that they played 5 games 59 goals for and only 4 against.  Now in peewee BB they are 0-6 with -18 goal differential.  so what would you propose for that team to play down and be in a situation of running clock every game or play up and lose every game by average of 3 goals.  This is where the true problem arises for the bubble teams the in between divisions.

    Now for my opinion the best way to handle all of this is to have these bubble teams play in the lower division for preseason and move up  after proving that every game in the lower division is a 5 plus goal differential.  Another option could be a forced play in game from SCAHA for the bottom teams ( teams getting beat with high differential in preseason) must play one of the top teams in the lower division and win in order to stay in the higher division. 

    Don't get me wrong I am with you about having to watch either your kid blow out team that doesn't belong or be on the other side of the beating. And in my many years of being involved in travel hockey my kid has been on both sides of the spectrum.
    Every year you hear the same shit.  Fact is in every league,  in every sport, even in the pros there are young to be top teams, middle teams and lower teams.  Really nothing you can do, unless you want to do a 40+ league season (too many), then split top and bottom half at mid season. It is what it is. Always going to be really good teams and poor teams.


    Agree this is nothing new.  Look at the standings every year going back there is almost always a big divide between top and bottom of the division\.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on November 22, 2019, 11:20:20 AM
    The point being missed is simply this:


    The divisions should be capped at 16 MAX and typically, you will get close games.  Sure teams 12-16 might get beat up a bit, but should be able to pull out an upset here and there.  The 16 teams is also perfect for the 20 game schedule (15 reg and 5 preseason). 


    If AA should be capped at 12, then trickle down will mean proper placement for all teams in all divisions at 16 teams.  (Why AA at 12, well... that's a huge trickle down from the 4 AAA teams.) 


    In SCAHA alone there are   65 PW teams.  This would breakdown into 4 AAA, 12 AA, 16 A, 16 BB, 17 B.  It's too perfect.  As for the Squirts, the same can be done, but it is not tiered, they need a 16 A, 16 BB, 18 B, as they have 50 teams.  Instead, it is a clusterfk of randomness and magic flights of 9, 12, 13, and 16 team divisions... WTF?   


    Balancing out the divisions will create consistent and adequate competition. 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Landshark on November 22, 2019, 11:29:57 AM
    You’ve fixed it. All you have to do is give more power to a benevolent centralized organization that has a track record for making all of the right decisions on implementation.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on November 22, 2019, 12:10:52 PM
    You’ve fixed it. All you have to do is give more power to a benevolent centralized organization that has a track record for making all of the right decisions on implementation.


    So, not SCAHA, got it. 


    I have been proposing this balance for years.  Allowing clubs to choose needs accountability.  Stop guaranteeing the 20 games!  Maybe, if you play in the wrong division, as in the 21 teams in PW A, at the 10 game mark (5 pre/5 reg) which is usually around End of November, IF YOUR TEAM IS NOT IN THE TOP 16, YOUR SEASON IS OVER!  GOODBYE!  ... and players are not allowed to join other teams as it is after the final roster date in December.


    That'll show 'em. 


     
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on November 22, 2019, 01:13:16 PM
    That would create an unbalanced schedule.  Could hear it now....Team X played all the shitty teams.  My like Gretz team played all the hard teams.....yadda....yadda.....yadda. There is no difference in price from A to BB ( at least not at our club) 
    Blame the parents that think their Lil Bender. Is the next great one.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: WTF on November 22, 2019, 03:48:15 PM
    You’ve fixed it. All you have to do is give more power to a benevolent centralized organization that has a track record for making all of the right decisions on implementation.


    So, not SCAHA, got it. 


    I have been proposing this balance for years.  Allowing clubs to choose needs accountability.  Stop guaranteeing the 20 games!  Maybe, if you play in the wrong division, as in the 21 teams in PW A, at the 10 game mark (5 pre/5 reg) which is usually around End of November, IF YOUR TEAM IS NOT IN THE TOP 16, YOUR SEASON IS OVER!  GOODBYE!  ... and players are not allowed to join other teams as it is after the final roster date in December.


    That'll show 'em.


    Interesting concept, almost a little too statistically pure but who knows even a blind squirrel will find a nut.    BTW how do you explain the traditionally smaller divisions of 14b and 12b of 10 and 8 team divisions where the bottom dwellers traditionally get blown out or would that just blow your statistically pure concept out of the water?


    If you strongly believe in this plan propose it to your club president who can take it to the other club presidents who make up SCAHA and they can determine if it will work for them or not and if they do we can call the BOS66 plan.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on November 23, 2019, 09:14:31 PM
    I stand by it.  Happened this year... Flyers2 are 3-3 after playing the 3 worst teams and getting wins...  include preseason they are 3-6-1 and OUT! Guess who would be in ....  Ducks2 at 5-4, but having a rough start to reg season with a 4-0 pre. 


    BUT at this point, look at every division and every schedule.  Preseason and first 5 reg season games are extremely accurate.  If you are in the bottom and your season is cut, it's 99.9% because you were in the wrong division..... and shame on you.


    Money and all those considerations means poo to me.  These are kids.  They play to have fun and the second you make it a money making machine you get... oh, yep, you get SCAHA and its clubs  >:( :'( :-\
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on November 23, 2019, 09:34:33 PM
    OH SNAP!  There were two Saturday games.  Any results?!?!  Sugarrush win by 10 again?
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Slapper on November 24, 2019, 03:52:25 PM
    Congrats to the Wave with a big win over Empire..
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Maverick on November 25, 2019, 10:35:02 AM
    You’ve fixed it. All you have to do is give more power to a benevolent centralized organization that has a track record for making all of the right decisions on implementation.


    So, not SCAHA, got it. 


    I have been proposing this balance for years.  Allowing clubs to choose needs accountability.  Stop guaranteeing the 20 games!  Maybe, if you play in the wrong division, as in the 21 teams in PW A, at the 10 game mark (5 pre/5 reg) which is usually around End of November, IF YOUR TEAM IS NOT IN THE TOP 16, YOUR SEASON IS OVER!  GOODBYE!  ... and players are not allowed to join other teams as it is after the final roster date in December.


    That'll show 'em.


    Stupidest thing i've ever read on this board...  Good luck with your utopia at the A level, let alone any so cal youth hockey level.  you claim to have been around for years, yet just figured out that every division every season has disparity top to bottom.  hopefully your at the top and can suffer through the blowouts and your kid doesn't lose out on too much development in the process... ;) [size=78%] [/size]
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on November 25, 2019, 12:00:44 PM
    GOBBLE-GOBBLE-GOBBLE!!!
    Turkey Tourney Time! 


    Good luck to the teams playing down in Tournys!  Win that banner!!!


    Huge shake up in power rankings after the break!
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on December 02, 2019, 01:58:30 PM
    So what's up with the "power rankings "
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on December 02, 2019, 02:07:27 PM
    So what's up with the "power rankings "


    Busy Tourney week!  Back at the grind sucks.  Hope to have time tomorrow to post!
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: AlexJ312 on December 02, 2019, 08:27:17 PM
    Congratulations to Empire Hockey Club 12U A for bringing home the championship banner from Las Vegas!!!!
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on December 04, 2019, 09:32:29 AM
    Tourney season was all over the place.  Top "A" teams were playing in "AA" tournaments, some were in LA, Ana, Vegas, SD...  truly all over.  Some won banners, others were complete flops. 


    I see some confusing results when researching this weeks rankings. 


    SDIA, Condors, JD4, and Bears played in "AA" in LA, but the "A" division, was filled with random teams.  Classic LA douschebaggery... named the divisions "A" - "AA" - and "AA" Elite instead of "B" - "A" - "AA" ...total garbage.


    Goldrush, ID, JD2, and Wave1 played in Ana 12A and GR made easy work winning a banner (was the Wave1 roster missing players - they were terrible after their big upset of EHC?)


    EHC, Flyers2, and JD3 went to Vegas and EHC won that banner. 


    Lastly, the tourney in SD was filled with some of the worst PW teams in SCAHA.  What a MESS!!!  ...with that in mind, here is the


    NEW POWER RANKINGS and MHR#


    1. Goldrush  131
    2. EHC  184
    3. Condors  192
    4. Wave1  221
    5. Kings2  217
    6. Guls2  405
    7. SDIA  369
    8. JD4  435
    9. JD3  378
    10. Bears 436


    Bottom 5 coming soon!!!
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Siggiz on December 04, 2019, 10:07:05 AM
    Tourney season was all over the place.  Top "A" teams were playing in "AA" tournaments, some were in LA, Ana, Vegas, SD...  truly all over.  Some won banners, others were complete flops. 


    I see some confusing results when researching this weeks rankings. 


    SDIA, Condors, JD4, and Bears played in "AA" in LA, but the "A" division, was filled with random teams.  Classic LA douschebaggery... named the divisions "A" - "AA" - and "AA" Elite instead of "B" - "A" - "AA" ...total garbage.


    Goldrush, ID, JD2, and Wave1 played in Ana 12A and GR made easy work winning a banner (was the Wave1 roster missing players - they were terrible after their big upset of EHC?)


    EHC, Flyers2, and JD3 went to Vegas and EHC won that banner. 


    Lastly, the tourney in SD was filled with some of the worst PW teams in SCAHA.  What a MESS!!!  ...with that in mind, here is the


    NEW POWER RANKINGS and MHR#


    1. Goldrush  131
    2. EHC  184
    3. Condors  192
    4. Wave1  221
    5. Kings2  217
    6. Guls2  405
    7. SDIA  369
    8. JD4  435
    9. JD3  378
    10. Bears 436


    Bottom 5 coming soon!!!




    Wave1  won Banner in San Jose Silver Sticks. Wave 2 was in Anaheim
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on December 04, 2019, 10:36:55 AM
    I knew something was wrong on MHR.  Wow.  That is a huge blunder.  They posted the results from Ana for Wave1 and not Wave2. 


    I looked at the rosters and thought that was the case.  UGH!  I once said MHR is a great system and mistakes are easily fixed.  Hope they fix that soon. 


    I might need to redo the rankings next week FOR SURE!!!!  Thanks for the clarification.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on December 04, 2019, 12:22:32 PM
    I just looked it up...


    Silver Sticks SJ was only an "A" tourney.  It was filled with the worst/bottom half teams in NorCal.  I give no street cred for that banner.
    EHC beat Vaca Jets in Vegas 8-1.  Jets are in 3rd NorCal.  How bad are those teams?  The best 3 NorCal "A" teams were not even there.  Gives the Silver Sticks tourney a bad name IMO. 

    The only good NorCal "A" team is the Blackhawks and they DROPPED from AA.  NorCal Hockey is still a joke. 

    I stand by this weeks POWER RANKINGS!
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on December 04, 2019, 02:18:33 PM
    Maybe you should do a strength of schedule analysis and records vs your power ranked teams.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: 2 Cups in LA on December 05, 2019, 10:26:51 AM
    CAHA/SCAHA  needs to tighten their divisions...   PWAA is the new PWA.   It is ruining it for the other divisions.  (PWA,PWBB,PWB) is now a big MESS!!!
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on December 05, 2019, 11:10:02 AM
    Maybe you should do a strength of schedule analysis and records vs your power ranked teams.


     :o Even tougher to do considering all the teams that drop/suck and players swapping teams.  Rosters don't lock until December.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on December 05, 2019, 11:13:32 AM
    CAHA/SCAHA  needs to tighten their divisions...   PWAA is the new PWA.   It is ruining it for the other divisions.  (PWA,PWBB,PWB) is now a big MESS!!!


    There really should only be 8-12 "AA" teams.  No doubt that would make for a much more competitive "A" division.  The tournaments prove it.  Moving forward, all the top "A" teams will sign up for "AA" tournaments.  It's gonna get pretty interesting for Holiday, MLK, and Pres Day. 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BetterThanGetlaf on December 05, 2019, 11:26:49 PM
    CAHA/SCAHA  needs to tighten their divisions...   PWAA is the new PWA.   It is ruining it for the other divisions.  (PWA,PWBB,PWB) is now a big MESS!!!


    Is there a PW BB? I didn't think there was this year. I read earlier someone said that the Vegas tourney was the best Thanksgiving one because of the Vacaville team (I think?) and Empiee. I asssume that means that JD3 is pretty good this year too? I thought they made the finals against Empire. I see they have a lot of A teams so I guess there are alot of good players there?


    Generally I thought everyone in PW was playing A this year, I heard of a lot of B players last year being A this year. So far I like this hockey stuff!
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Dont Be Salty on December 05, 2019, 11:55:38 PM
    Getzlaf! Welcome to the rodeo of what has become of youth ice hockey.  Hang on tight and watch your wallet get sucked dry! Where do you hail from? As far as bb goes, I’m aware it exists and that’s as far as it goes. Yes, the Vegas tourney.  We were there and personally think the Ducks 3 team is panning out to be THE team to beat this season? 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on December 06, 2019, 08:27:02 AM
    You talking about the team that is presently in 11th place  ?
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BetterThanGetlaf on December 06, 2019, 09:05:52 AM
    It was more an observation, someone stated that "Vegas was where the real teams went..." and I know JD3 (?) went there to the finals so by the original logic they should be really good. I wasn't saying "they were THE team to beat" I was inquiring based on the teams that went to Vegas. Regarding BB, I thought this year it was only A and B (I also heard the BB was not a real thing in the rest of the States).


    Edit: what's Silver Stick? Is that the Anaheim tournament?
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on December 06, 2019, 09:31:26 AM
    Silver sticks is a national tournament.  Various regions throughout the country in various divisiond and the winner from each region goes to play to the Silver Sticks championship, this year PW A is in Port Huron Michigan.  Level of competition varies from year to year at regionals  But competition at the finals is high.


    This weeks late picks


    JFLYERS.            VS.               JK2.             JK2 BY 6


    JD2                                           ICE DOGS    JD2 BY 1


    JR BENNYS         VS               JGULLS1     JGULLS BY 2.....MAKE THAT 3 BF STILL OWES ME $$


    JFLYERS1.            VS               WAVE 2       WAVE2 BY 2


    EPPERLY WAVE.   VS             JGULLS2    EPPWAVE BY 2


    OC2.                        VS             JD3.            JD3 BY  3


    JD4                                            EMPIRE      EMPIRE BY 3  GAME OF THE WEEK


    OC1                        VS.             DaBEARS. BEARS BY 2


    GOLDRUSH.           VS.            JK1 SORRYJKs, not so good to be the King this weekend
       
    SDIA                         VS             JD1    JD1 BY 6


    good luck everyone.           
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BetterThanGetlaf on December 06, 2019, 11:24:28 AM
    I get it.


    I think that Ice Dogs are going to beat JD2
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: OGwave on December 06, 2019, 11:43:12 AM
    Ducks 3 goalie was amazing in the tournament final if it wasn't for him the score would have been 10-0. I am impartial my son plays for a different team unfortunately we didn't win a banner.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BetterThanGetlaf on December 06, 2019, 11:54:09 AM
    Ducks 3 goalie was amazing in the tournament final if it wasn't for him the score would have been 10-0. I am impartial my son plays for a different team unfortunately we didn't win a banner.


    Now I'm confused; RE Ducks 3 ONLY... One person said "strong teams went to Vegas" fact was Ducks3 made it to the Finals and lost by I believe 1 goal. I inquired about this, Trans asked (appropriately) "you mean the team in 11th?" now someone says the goalie is amazing? So...even at 11th can't be that bad, perhaps finding their feet?


    Blades of Steel mentioned that Norcal Silver Stick had no "street cred" maybe? I don't know...But I looked at the past winners and it looks like it's been the Wave pretty much every year, maybe the norcal teams say "why bother?" and don't enter? Which I find interesting because it looks like San Jose is a stepping stone to Detroit.



    Am I asking really dumb questions? I don't mean to ask obvious things but there seems to be an underlining understanding I'm missing.

    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on December 06, 2019, 12:13:15 PM
    Ducks 3 goalie was amazing in the tournament final if it wasn't for him the score would have been 10-0. I am impartial my son plays for a different team unfortunately we didn't win a banner.


    Now I'm confused; RE Ducks 3 ONLY... One person said "strong teams went to Vegas" fact was Ducks3 made it to the Finals and lost by I believe 1 goal. I inquired about this, Trans asked (appropriately) "you mean the team in 11th?" now someone says the goalie is amazing? So...even at 11th can't be that bad, perhaps finding their feet?


    Blades of Steel mentioned that Norcal Silver Stick had no "street cred" maybe? I don't know...But I looked at the past winners and it looks like it's been the Wave pretty much every year, maybe the norcal teams say "why bother?" and don't enter? Which I find interesting because it looks like San Jose is a stepping stone to Detroit.



    Am I asking really dumb questions? I don't mean to ask obvious things but there seems to be an underlining understanding I'm missing.
    No stupid question here, just stupid statements . :-[


    My understanding is that the SS finals are a great experience for the kids.  Opening ceremony,  pin trading etc.  That's the things our kids will remember, not wins or loses. Also my understanding that the level of play in the finals is quite high.  I believe a very good experience for the kids.  Especially in the non tier level.  Usually dont get that kind of experience until tier level, if at all
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: FrozenMom18 on December 06, 2019, 12:31:47 PM
    From my understanding Empire controlled the game and if it wasn't for the Ducks 3 goalie playing lights out the score could have been drastically different.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on December 06, 2019, 12:35:24 PM
    From my understanding Empire controlled the game and if it wasn't for the Ducks 3 g
    Hoalie playing lights out the score could have been drastically different.
    Hockey team cannot live on goalie alone. If he's an 07, I know of an 07 birth year team that will need a goalie next year  ;)
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: FrozenMom18 on December 06, 2019, 12:37:09 PM
    Definitely not for an entire season but they can keep a team in a game.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on December 06, 2019, 12:48:33 PM
    Ducks 3 goalie was amazing in the tournament final if it wasn't for him the score would have been 10-0. I am impartial my son plays for a different team unfortunately we didn't win a banner.


    Now I'm confused; RE Ducks 3 ONLY... One person said "strong teams went to Vegas" fact was Ducks3 made it to the Finals and lost by I believe 1 goal. I inquired about this, Trans asked (appropriately) "you mean the team in 11th?" now someone says the goalie is amazing? So...even at 11th can't be that bad, perhaps finding their feet?


    Blades of Steel mentioned that Norcal Silver Stick had no "street cred" maybe? I don't know...But I looked at the past winners and it looks like it's been the Wave pretty much every year, maybe the norcal teams say "why bother?" and don't enter? Which I find interesting because it looks like San Jose is a stepping stone to Detroit.



    Am I asking really dumb questions? I don't mean to ask obvious things but there seems to be an underlining understanding I'm missing.


    You can see it in my Power Rankings.  of the four Ducks teams in PWA, D4 is probably the best (dropped down from AA) and it is a toss-up between D2 and D3.  I feel that D3 has gotten better over the season, but might have hit a ceiling. 
    The SDIA, D3, Gulls2 and the Bears are all fighting for seeds 7-8 as the top 6 are a lead-pipe lock. 


    As for Silver Sticks, in my earlier post, I was going to go as far as to say "I guarentee Wave1 won every game at that tourney 10-0."  ... when MHR was fixed/updated, I was proven correct.  It was an "A" only tournament meaning they only advance to a lame "A" silver sticks international in Jan...  I guess Wave won't be headed to any "AA" tournaments that weekend.  (I established that Holiday, MLK, and Pres Day is when you go to tournaments and play UP to get ready for your own playoff run in CAHA.)  Granted, SS Finals will still be a great "A" tourney.  Hope they represent well.


    I would say EHC, D3, and D2 (all went to Vegas) would have beaten all 5 NorCal teams in the SS tourney that didnt make the final.  The one Wave1 played is the (Cougars) is about the level of the Vaca Jets. 
    Wave beat Cougars 5-1 (in championship)
    EHC beat Jets 8-1 (round robin)
    Similar to me. 


    D3 have 4 guarentee wins and 7 total possible winnable games left.  That's a lot.  That's why I look at the schedule and do the power rankings.  I have D3 in the SCAHA playoffs.  FWIW




    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: OGwave on December 06, 2019, 01:32:11 PM
    Pee Wee A is so watered down almost anyone can snag the 6-7-8 playoff spot. So many double B teams in the A division its ridiculous. Tired of delusional parents and coaches. Oh we will get better playing better teams BS your team and coach stink have fun losing all year for nothing!
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BetterThanGetlaf on December 06, 2019, 03:05:34 PM
    I think thats primarily because of the big clubs. They want to churn out players for Tier and could care less how A looks as long as parents pay. Its telling that half the teams are undefeated, and the other half is win-less (more or less). 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on December 06, 2019, 03:35:51 PM
    Big clubs trying to fill requirements for Tier is a huge problem... LOOKING AT YOU REIGN, ICE DOGS!!!


    I don't want to hear how good your AAA, or AA team is, it's a glorified "A" team and your actual "A" teams are suffering because of that greed for another letter. 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on December 06, 2019, 03:41:34 PM
    Pee Wee A is so watered down almost anyone can snag the 6-7-8 playoff spot. So many double B teams in the A division its ridiculous. Tired of delusional parents and coaches. Oh we will get better playing better teams BS your team and coach stink have fun losing all year for nothing!


    Only lucky scheduling will change the 7th 8th spots.  As I see it, D3 and SDIA are the locks.  Too bad Bears and Guls2... Your schedule is too tough and you are OUT!!!


    Otherwise, teams 11-21 are total garbage and should be BB.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on December 06, 2019, 08:40:13 PM
    So no one else lurks here on a Friday night?  Cool.    :o :'(
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BetterThanGetlaf on December 06, 2019, 11:38:28 PM
    So school me on the Power Rating and MHR#? A couple of observations; What is going on at the Ducks in general?! I thought D2 would have been stronger, but I understand they have all sorts of problems. I see how D4 panned out. SDIA is interesting, they have the short bench right? Another team was complaining the kids tend to have a lot of soccer injuries, ordered from the coach. Lions and LD...never understood why they enter the season, seems like a lot of money for basically scrimmages. What's the point of their involvement in SCAHA if the games don't count?


    Yeah, I got a lot to learn.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BetterThanGetlaf on December 07, 2019, 01:19:17 PM
    I found out a couple of things, apparently the Jr Sharks team at Silver Stick was a AA team that dropped down. Regarding entering AA tournaments coming up for various A teams, isn't that more of the dilution of a level? Kind of like the BB teams in A right now?


    Regarding Jr. Reign dropping down and being at the bottom, did they lose players when they switched to A? I think that's what happened with D4.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: FrozenMom18 on December 07, 2019, 01:38:30 PM
    D4 lost players but they are still doing well. Unfortunately Reign are not in the same boat. That club unfortunately has been known to throw teams in divisions that are not the best fit for their players.
    In regards to A team playing up at AA for tournaments as long as said teams are at the top of A and winning games/tournaments why not let them play up. I know some top A teams have scrimmaged AA teams and have held their own.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on December 09, 2019, 11:09:54 AM
    I found out a couple of things, apparently the Jr Sharks team at Silver Stick was a AA team that dropped down. Regarding entering AA tournaments coming up for various A teams, isn't that more of the dilution of a level? Kind of like the BB teams in A right now?


    Regarding Jr. Reign dropping down and being at the bottom, did they lose players when they switched to A? I think that's what happened with D4.


    The SS had 2 sharks teams.  Both are "A" teams.  That was NOT the Sharks "AA" team.  FYI.  MHR had it wrong.
    https://stats.caha.timetoscore.com/display-schedule.php?stat_class=5&league=18&level=4&conf=0&season=24 (https://stats.caha.timetoscore.com/display-schedule.php?stat_class=5&league=18&level=4&conf=0&season=24)



    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on December 09, 2019, 11:56:35 AM
    Also, in regards to the top "A" teams playing up into "AA" tournaments, it is popular and helpful in that it gets them away from the "A" tournament teams that are garbage and should be "BB" anyway.  Waste of time. 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on December 09, 2019, 12:06:27 PM
    Also, in regards to the top "A" teams playing up into "AA" tournaments, it is popular and helpful in that it gets them away from the "A" tournament teams that are garbage and should be "BB" anyway.  Waste of time.
    FYI, for a team that's a non tier team, it is very difficult to get into a REAL AA/AAA tournament.   Tier teams do not want to play non tier teams.  For them, it's a "waste of time" as you put it.  The tournaments that let non tier teams into their "tiered" tournament are usually tournaments that need teams......i.e. BF.....still owes me $$
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BetterThanGetlaf on December 10, 2019, 08:40:09 AM
    Okay what were the results for the weekend? Are discussions about Ref's allowed? Cuz I got a few thoughts >:(
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on December 10, 2019, 12:03:57 PM
    Okay what were the results for the weekend? Are discussions about Ref's allowed? Cuz I got a few thoughts >:(


    SCAHA ref's are the best in the country.  SCAHA has an amazing accountability system in place to monitor and train its refs.  I cannot imagine what you possibly could be interested in discussing about refs.  Even at the "A" level, we get some of the top veterans and once in a while, a ref and TWO linesman!!! 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on December 10, 2019, 12:23:50 PM
    Also, in regards to the top "A" teams playing up into "AA" tournaments, it is popular and helpful in that it gets them away from the "A" tournament teams that are garbage and should be "BB" anyway.  Waste of time.
    FYI, for a team that's a non tier team, it is very difficult to get into a REAL AA/AAA tournament.   Tier teams do not want to play non tier teams.  For them, it's a "waste of time" as you put it.  The tournaments that let non tier teams into their "tiered" tournament are usually tournaments that need teams......i.e. BF.....still owes me $$


    Well, I disagree.  Tier lines are blurred all the time during tournaments.  CAHA weekends are separate altogether.  Tournament directors who accept teams look at their current level as well as performance.  They approve or deny team requests based on many other factors besides $$$.  The concept and labeling of "REAL" tier tournaments are few and far between (Silver Sticks, Edina Invitational, for example).  Most AAA/Elite summer tournaments are "all-star" teams put together anyway.  Anyone can play (Carmen Starr, CHITOWN Shuffle, etc.)  Typically, its the tournament that decides to put on the levels (A/B, AA, etc.)  Put it this way, if an "A" team that was sub .500 in its league wanted to play in a AA tournament in PHX on Pres. Day, they would be told NO and put in "A" by the tourney director.  Top teams play up, and garbage "TIER" 2 teams play down into "A" tourneys all the time. 
    I am speaking from having gone to dozens of tournaments all over the country with different clubs.  I'm not a "know-it-all," just sharing my my experiences/observations. 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on December 10, 2019, 01:10:11 PM
    Also, in regards to the top "A" teams playing up into "AA" tournaments, it is popular and helpful in that it gets them away from the "A" tournament teams that are garbage and should be "BB" anyway.  Waste of time.
    FYI, for a team that's a non tier team, it is very difficult to get into a REAL AA/AAA tournament.   Tier teams do not want to play non tier teams.  For them, it's a "waste of time" as you put it.  The tournaments that let non tier teams into their "tiered" tournament are usually tournaments that need teams......i.e. BF.....still owes me $$


    Well, I disagree.  Tier lines are blurred all the time during tournaments.  CAHA weekends are separate altogether.  Tournament directors who accept teams look at their current level as well as performance.  They approve or deny team requests based on many other factors besides $$$.  The concept and labeling of "REAL" tier tournaments are few and far between (Silver Sticks, Edina Invitational, for example).  Most AAA/Elite summer tournaments are "all-star" teams put together anyway.  Anyone can play (Carmen Starr, CHITOWN Shuffle, etc.)  Typically, its the tournament that decides to put on the levels (A/B, AA, etc.)  Put it this way, if an "A" team that was sub .500 in its league wanted to play in a AA tournament in PHX on Pres. Day, they would be told NO and put in "A" by the tourney director.  Top teams play up, and garbage "TIER" 2 teams play down into "A" tourneys all the time. 
    I am speaking from having gone to dozens of tournaments all over the country with different clubs.


    It's ok to disagree, I'm not a democrat.  But the only way a credible tier tournament let's in a non tier team is if they need teams....or greedy. Seen it.

    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on December 10, 2019, 01:14:07 PM
    ......now, I have seen a fair amount of top AA teams play AAA tournaments.  Just A to AA, not so much.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on December 10, 2019, 01:27:36 PM
    $$$ and greedy hockey clubs running tournaments?  Lies.  All lies.  USA Hockey Code of Ethics won't stand for it. 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BetterThanGetlaf on December 11, 2019, 08:33:44 AM
    Any guesses where the top teams are heading for Xmas, MLK, and Prez day? Is everyone going to different AA tournaments? or going to the same A tournament to face each other? I'd like to see the Wave play GR, I"m guessing thats going to be a good game. It might not be the normal opinion but I think the Wave might have the edge, based off both of their schedules. Although I think GR has always been strong?


    RE: Jr. Sharks A1...They were dropped down from AA like Ducks 4, Gulls 2, and Reign after Jamboree. They were NOT a AA team entered as an A. I don't know if that is true but it is what I was told by someone who had previously played against them this year.


    I am curious to see who enters our local tournaments for Xmas.

    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on December 11, 2019, 12:43:18 PM
    POWER RANKINGS!!!


    1. Gold Rush
    2. Condoors
    3. Wave1
    4. EHC
    5. Kings2
    6. Gulls2
    7. JD4
    8. SDIA
    9. JD3
    10. JD1


    OUT:  Bears
    HOT TAKE:  JD3 catches and supplants SDIA for a playoff spot by seasons end.  Gulls2 only have 2-3 wins left on the schedule... will that be enough?!?!!


    It is really a 4 team battle for the last 2 spots: JD1, JD3, SDIA, Gulls 2


    8 wins will not get you a place at the table...  9 wins or at least 19 points in the standings gets you a spot.  (Last year it was 9 and 20)
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on December 11, 2019, 01:04:55 PM
    Also, I gave up on MHR until all the holiday tournament mistakes are fixed. 


    YES, after CAHA moronic jamboree weekend, these teams currently in "A" were dropped from "AA" - therefore are never to be considered "AA" ever again.  (EVEN FOR THE SILVER STICKS TOURNEY)


    NorCal:
    Sharks1A *Played at SS
    Blackhawks

    SoCal:
    Condors
    Ducks4
    Gulls2
    Reign

    I believe that's the list... and in case you are wondering?...



    The Vaca Jets Team that went 1-3 in Vegas and lost to EHC 8-1 and JD1 5-2 just BEAT Sharks1A  by a score of 6-3.  Like I said, without Blackhawks there, that Silver Sticks in SJ was complete garbage.  Too easy for Wave1.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BetterThanGetlaf on December 11, 2019, 02:11:36 PM
    Oh I'm not disagreeing with you, I just wanted clarification on what happened at SS. I was also curious what the bet for Xmas tourneys will be, and why is Gold Rush's schedule So so EASY!? I think that warps the rankings.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on December 11, 2019, 02:12:50 PM
    IDK
    [deleted by moderator]

    Gulls2 is a really big/skilled with good goaltending.  Surprised they are where they are
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on December 11, 2019, 07:11:29 PM
    Oh I'm not disagreeing with you, I just wanted clarification on what happened at SS. I was also curious what the bet for Xmas tourneys will be, and why is Gold Rush's schedule So so EASY!? I think that warps the rankings.


    XMas tourneys are good travel out-of-state tourneys.  In SoCal, it's all smoke and mirrors.  Valencia used to have one (cancelled this year) Tinseltown always whorez out a tourney, but not for xmas, Ana is average, and SD pretends to have an "outdoor" tournament, but we all really know where it's played....


    "AA" has an amazingly timed-scheduled CAHA weekend right out of the XMas break, so it makes XMas tourneys redundant and opens doors for BURNOUT in athletes and families. 


    MLK is the first good "AA" tourney play-up weekend.



    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on December 11, 2019, 07:12:26 PM
    IDK
    [deleted by moderator]

    Gulls2 is a really big/skilled with good goaltending.  Surprised they are where they are


    I really wanna know what the mod didnt like....  we are all adults here.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Rats13 on December 11, 2019, 07:14:50 PM
    IDK
    [deleted by moderator]

    Gulls2 is a really big/skilled with good goaltending.  Surprised they are where they are


    I really wanna know what the mod didnt like....  we are all adults here.


    I think there was a reference to a specific player on a team.   That's a no-no.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on December 11, 2019, 07:17:55 PM
    Yep, keep the kids out of it.  No matter the situation, it is the parents that make the decisions.  Kids are just kids.... even if they are knuckleheads.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on December 12, 2019, 09:08:38 AM
    Didnt say anything bad or use names.  Very good player.  But my bad, I guess.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on December 12, 2019, 10:02:40 AM
    What if I talk about my own kid?  Can I call my own kid a moron or a knucklehead?  ;D   


    As for GR and their schedule, MHR has them at 18-0-1 aka undefeated, but digging deeply uncovers a loss.
    They went to the Ana Ice Early Bird Tourney and lost in the semi to the Paramount tourney team that goes to every Ana tourney (Quakes).  Quakes lost to EHC in the final.   :o 18-1-1...


    As for strength of schedule WOW! I had no idea, GR has played ZERO.... ZERO current PWA predicted playoff teams (ONLY possible playoff team is JD3 back in Oct. and beat em 7-3 which is a good win).  Otherwise (played a "AA" team twice at Ana Thx Tourney - a "AA" team that played IDs twice and BARELY beat em. Sooooooo a non-"A" SCAHA playoff team also...) 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Siggiz on December 12, 2019, 10:44:13 AM
    and wave 1 Beat the GR in exhibition game. 4 to 1 (I believe was final score) hard to tell from video
    https://youtu.be/jy8vsRnvmw8 (https://youtu.be/jy8vsRnvmw8)
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on December 12, 2019, 12:36:32 PM
    What if I talk about my own kid?  Can I call my own kid a moron or a knucklehead?  ;D   


    As for GR and their schedule, MHR has them at 18-0-1 aka undefeated, but digging deeply uncovers a loss.
    They went to the Ana Ice Early Bird Tourney and lost in the semi to the Paramount tourney team that goes to every Ana tourney (Quakes).  Quakes lost to EHC in the final.   :o 18-1-1...


    As for strength of schedule WOW! I had no idea, GR has played ZERO.... ZERO current PWA predicted playoff teams (ONLY possible playoff team is JD3 back in Oct. and beat em 7-3 which is a good win).  Otherwise (played a "AA" team twice at Ana Thx Tourney - a "AA" team that played IDs twice and BARELY beat em. Sooooooo a non-"A" SCAHA playoff team also...)
    Jmo but at this age its more about the match ups.  Just becsuse team A beat team B should beat team C becsuse....etc doesnt mean shit anymore.  Sone teams, for whatever season natchup well with certain teams snd struggle whith others that they shouldnt strughls with.  As a cocky JK coach once said, "Its all about the matchups."
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: lcadad on December 12, 2019, 12:53:07 PM
    What if I talk about my own kid?  Can I call my own kid a moron or a knucklehead?  ;D   


    As for GR and their schedule, MHR has them at 18-0-1 aka undefeated, but digging deeply uncovers a loss.
    They went to the Ana Ice Early Bird Tourney and lost in the semi to the Paramount tourney team that goes to every Ana tourney (Quakes).  Quakes lost to EHC in the final.   :o 18-1-1...


    As for strength of schedule WOW! I had no idea, GR has played ZERO.... ZERO current PWA predicted playoff teams (ONLY possible playoff team is JD3 back in Oct. and beat em 7-3 which is a good win).  Otherwise (played a "AA" team twice at Ana Thx Tourney - a "AA" team that played IDs twice and BARELY beat em. Sooooooo a non-"A" SCAHA playoff team also...)


    Jmo but at this age its more about the match ups.  Just becsuse team A beat team B should beat team C becsuse....etc doesnt mean shit anymore.  Sone teams, for whatever season natchup well with certain teams snd struggle whith others that they shouldnt strughls with.  As a cocky JK coach once said, "Its all about the matchups."

    Holy shit, I agree with trans!

    Coaching can also figure into this significantly.  There are coaches who will roll lines, and other coaches who will match or shorten the bench in tight games or just to keep scores from getting out of hand.  Sometimes it can come down to an assistant coach running the defense, who is good at looking at what the other team is doing, and will match the team's best D against the other team's top O. 

    Some teams just play a style that negates the things that make another team successful most of the time.  Some coaches are good on the bench, and will make some in game changes based on what they are seeing.  In general there are a lot of parents who don't really know the game of hockey too well, and base all their analysis on goals and wins and losses and scores.  There are close games where a team loses by four goals and beatdowns where a team gets a tie. 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on December 12, 2019, 01:18:34 PM
    What if I talk about my own kid?  Can I call my own kid a moron or a knucklehead?  ;D   


    As for GR and their schedule, MHR has them at 18-0-1 aka undefeated, but digging deeply uncovers a loss.
    They went to the Ana Ice Early Bird Tourney and lost in the semi to the Paramount tourney team that goes to every Ana tourney (Quakes).  Quakes lost to EHC in the final.   :o 18-1-1...


    As for strength of schedule WOW! I had no idea, GR has played ZERO.... ZERO current PWA predicted playoff teams (ONLY possible playoff team is JD3 back in Oct. and beat em 7-3 which is a good win).  Otherwise (played a "AA" team twice at Ana Thx Tourney - a "AA" team that played IDs twice and BARELY beat em. Sooooooo a non-"A" SCAHA playoff team also...)
    Jmo but at this age its more about the match ups.  Just becsuse team A beat team B should beat team C becsuse....etc doesnt mean shit anymore.  Sone teams, for whatever season natchup well with certain teams snd struggle whith others that they shouldnt strughls with.  As a cocky JK coach once said, "Its all about the matchups."


    I don't think there is ever a sport that can easily dictate who can beat whom based on matchups especially when talking about top teams.  So, I agree.  I was just putting out all the "data." 


    As cor coaching, yep, coaching matters in games.  It does.  Some teams just roll lines and make everyone happy (pay-to-play) and other teams practice special teams and have PP units and specialists (best-players-play).  Typical in "A" and lower levels to have coaches just roll lines.  Matchups for teams vs teams matters for style of play, but also player matchups matter in-game.  There are a few players that can't be stopped unless you focus on stopping them.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BetterThanGetlaf on December 12, 2019, 09:58:31 PM
    and wave 1 Beat the GR in exhibition game. 4 to 1 (I believe was final score) hard to tell from video
    https://youtu.be/jy8vsRnvmw8 (https://youtu.be/jy8vsRnvmw8)


    How the hell did you find that!!! This is great look into these two teams, mucho gracias! Gonna share with some of the other teams (I know one team that is going to love this for an upcoming game!) so they can find the weaknesses, or two...at the very lease a look at the lines.


    So looking at the schedules GR plays no one, and Empire, Wave and Condors all face each other. So no one faces GR until playoffs? Curious on Condors versus Empire this weekend.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on December 13, 2019, 08:36:54 AM
    This weeks picks


    JR CONDORS             VA                GRUSH            CONDORS BY 1


    JD1.                                                   JD4       JD4 BY 5


    JD3.                  VS              JR FLYERS1         JD3 BY 4


    JRREIGN                VS.           WAVE2.             WAVE2 BY 3


    SDIA.                   VS.              JRGULLS1.        SDIA BY 5


    EMPIRE.                                   JK1             EMPIRE BY 5


    ICE DOGS                  VS           OC2            DOGS BY 3


    OC1.                 VS             JGULLS2.          GULLS BY 6


    Jk2                     Vs.           JD2               JKS BY 4


    EPPERLYWAVE.          VS            JRFLYERS2.       EPPWAVE BY 6


    GOOD LUCK EVERYONE !!






    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Siggiz on December 13, 2019, 08:39:38 AM
    and wave 1 Beat the GR in exhibition game. 4 to 1 (I believe was final score) hard to tell from video
    https://youtu.be/jy8vsRnvmw8 (https://youtu.be/jy8vsRnvmw8)


    How the hell did you find that!!! This is great look into these two teams, mucho gracias! Gonna share with some of the other teams (I know one team that is going to love this for an upcoming game!) so they can find the weaknesses, or two...at the very lease a look at the lines.


    So looking at the schedules GR plays no one, and Empire, Wave and Condors all face each other. So no one faces GR until playoffs? Curious on Condors versus Empire this weekend.



    Know kids on both teams. Even though schedules are skewed I believe these to be the top two teams for A. They play better as a team then Empire and Condors. I haven't seen JD4 yet.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on December 16, 2019, 12:58:17 PM
    Now the next two weekends are game-free.  There should have been games this weekend coming up. 


    LAME!  THANKS, SCAHA.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on December 16, 2019, 01:17:06 PM
    No cherps from GR/Condors ?
    SOC peeps must of lost their shit that they thought didnt stink.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on December 16, 2019, 01:26:18 PM
    No cherps from GR/Condors ?
    SOC peeps must of lost their shit that they thought didnt stink.


    No idea what happened in that game, you?  NE1?
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on December 17, 2019, 09:28:04 AM
    and wave 1 Beat the GR in exhibition game. 4 to 1 (I believe was final score) hard to tell from video
    https://youtu.be/jy8vsRnvmw8 (https://youtu.be/jy8vsRnvmw8)


    How the hell did you find that!!! This is great look into these two teams, mucho gracias! Gonna share with some of the other teams (I know one team that is going to love this for an upcoming game!) so they can find the weaknesses, or two...at the very lease a look at the lines.


    So looking at the schedules GR plays no one, and Empire, Wave and Condors all face each other. So no one faces GR until playoffs? Curious on Condors versus Empire this weekend.



    Know kids on both teams. Even though schedules are skewed I believe these to be the top two teams for A. They play better as a team then Empire and Condors. I haven't seen JD4 yet.


    YIKES!  Is that a type-o or did one of your top 2 teams, because they play better as a team, get beat 8-1  :o  by the only playoff team on their schedule?  (Just jabbin ya, sometimes we all have to eat crow now and again.)  :P   ... gotta be a type-o...
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Hockeydad30 on December 17, 2019, 10:23:53 AM
    After watching all three teams play empire, condors and the wave.
    This is hands down the waves season to win everything they were by far the best team of the group.  I didnt really see any weakness in the game I watched. 

    Similar to last years Wave team in Peewee A. 


    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on December 17, 2019, 11:11:50 AM
    After watching all three teams play empire, condors and the wave.
    This is hands down the waves season to win everything they were by far the best team of the group.  I didnt really see any weakness in the game I watched. 

    Similar to last years Wave team in Peewee A.
    TONS of hockey still left to play. Handful of teams can win it IMO
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BetterThanGetlaf on December 17, 2019, 01:17:07 PM
    I had no idea they had hockey in Artesia  ;)
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Hockeydad30 on December 17, 2019, 02:13:50 PM
    After watching all three teams play empire, condors and the wave.
    This is hands down the waves season to win everything they were by far the best team of the group.  I didnt really see any weakness in the game I watched. 

    Similar to last years Wave team in Peewee A.
    TONS of hockey still left to play. Handful of teams can win it IMO
    very true they are 11 and 12 year olds and we all know how that can go. 

    And to go even further with it I have seen all but 2 of the top 11 teams play.  And hands down the Wave 1 team is the best of them all. ( I am non- Wave affiliated ) so no bias here.


    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on December 18, 2019, 07:48:06 AM
    After watching all three teams play empire, condors and the wave.
    This is hands down the waves season to win everything they were by far the best team of the group.  I didnt really see any weakness in the game I watched. 

    Similar to last years Wave team in Peewee A.
    TONS of hockey still left to play. Handful of teams can win it IMO
    very true they are 11 and 12 year olds and we all know how that can go. 

    And to go even further with it I have seen all but 2 of the top 11 teams play.  And hands down the Wave 1 team is the best of them all. ( I am non- Wave affiliated ) so no bias here.


    Let's pump the breaks on all the hyperbole.  "Hands down"?  The wave team that lost to Empire, tied SDIA, and had close calls against Gulls2 and Kings 2 recently is in no way a clear cut favorite.  To quote the great Taylor Swift, you need to calm down. 


    Check back and enjoy this weeks POWER RANKINGS!!!
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on December 18, 2019, 08:34:28 AM
    Agree with BO, think there are no "hands down" favorite.  Think the  the JK is the dark horse.  Good, skilled team with exceptional goal keeping.  If they get a growth spurt, look out !.


    But then again  if my uncle had tits, he'd be my aunt.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on December 18, 2019, 08:51:02 AM
    Agree with BO, think there are no "hands down" favorite.  Think the  the JK is the dark horse.  Good, skilled team with exceptional goal keeping.  If they get a growth spurt, look out !.


    But then again  if my uncle had tits, he'd be my aunt.


    I (we all, probably) look at scores every day.  There are so many questionable trends and performances.  Each has an explanation.  Basically, the biggest excuse is that they are only 12 year-olds and I agree. 


    The only indication that I truly value as to a team's shot at a title is their tournament history throughout the season.  How many do they play, win, level played, etc.  Why?  Because that is the SCAHA and CAHA playoff format.  Single week game one-offs are in no way equal to the grind of 4-6 games in three days.  Knowing this design, there are a few teams that can handle that load and others that will fizzle out. 


    So far, Wave, Empire, have had tourney championships, Condors played a CAHA weekend and played "up" kind-of in a turkey tourney at KHS (tinsel town), Goldrush played in a pretty easy Ana turkey tourney and won, that Kings2 team goes to all the tournaments-plays well-never wins it all, and so on and so forth... 


    If you are asking now, the final four weekend in SCAHA will be Wave, Empire, Condors, Kings2/GR  ... So thats 5 teams, so what. 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on December 18, 2019, 11:50:33 AM
    WEEK 10 POWER RANKINGS!!!


    1. Wave
    2. Condors
    3. EHC
    4. Kings2
    5. Goldrush
    6. JD4
    7. SDIA
    8. JD3
    9. Gulls2
    10. Bears


    Gulls 2 stock CRASHING!!!  New #1, GR falls from grace, BEARS back... so youre sayin there a chance?!?!?(NO!)  and more!!!
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on December 18, 2019, 12:04:41 PM
    Time to start lookin at schedules!!!


    HUGE! Big games remaining!!!  The games that tell us who is for real!


    Wave1:     vs JD4, Condors
    Condors:   vs Kings2, Wave1, EHC
    EHC:         vs Condors
    Kings2:     vs GR, Condors
    Goldrush:  vs Kings2, JD4, SDIA
    JD4:         vs Wave1, GR, SDIA


    Team with most games that could go either way (4):  SDIA:  vs JD2, JD4, GR, JD3
    Team with a good schedule that could squeak them in a playoff spot:  JD3:  vs Flyers2, Wave2, Gulls2, JD1, Bears, SDIA
    Teams that miss out of the playoffs, but think they still have a chance:
    Bears:      vs GR, EHC, JD4, JD3
    Gulls2:     vs EHC, JD3, GR

    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BetterThanGetlaf on December 18, 2019, 12:05:49 PM
    After watching all three teams play empire, condors and the wave.
    This is hands down the waves season to win everything they were by far the best team of the group.  I didnt really see any weakness in the game I watched. 

    Similar to last years Wave team in Peewee A.
    TONS of hockey still left to play. Handful of teams can win it IMO
    very true they are 11 and 12 year olds and we all know how that can go. 

    And to go even further with it I have seen all but 2 of the top 11 teams play.  And hands down the Wave 1 team is the best of them all. ( I am non- Wave affiliated ) so no bias here.


    Let's pump the breaks on all the hyperbole.  "Hands down"?  The wave team that lost to Empire, tied SDIA, and had close calls against Gulls2 and Kings 2 recently is in no way a clear cut favorite.  To quote the great Taylor Swift, you need to calm down. 


    Check back and enjoy this weeks POWER RANKINGS!!!


    Empire beat Wave? I see they have 0 losses, has SCAHA not updated? Don't know about the Gulls but Kings are tiny and pull a ton of penalties from the opposing team, kind of like another little team that like to use the refs to try and get an edge. Just an observation.


    Could you briefly explain this power ranking? Sorry to drum on about it.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on December 18, 2019, 12:10:21 PM
    Power Rankings are the eye-test, strength of schedule, tourney history, etc.  Fun commentary like they do on ESPN and other sites. 


    MHR lists all games posted (tourney, preseason, season, etc.)  Wave1 is 18-3-1.  Losses to Kings2, EHC, DucksAAA08.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Hockeydad30 on December 18, 2019, 01:16:20 PM
    Power Rankings are the eye-test, strength of schedule, tourney history, etc.  Fun commentary like they do on ESPN and other sites. 


    MHR lists all games posted (tourney, preseason, season, etc.)  Wave1 is 18-3-1.  Losses to Kings2, EHC, DucksAAA08.
    Those 2 losses to kings 2 and ehc were in preseason and memorial day tournament before they added a few players to roster.  Given they did tie sdia and have a squeeker with Gulls 2 at home after the roster addition.  And last loss was to AAA minor team. 

    The goldrush team which is ranked higher in MHR hasnt played anyone that is any good Ducks 2 and Ducks 3 are best two teams they have played and only played them once.  This is also proven by the smackdown that was laid on the Rush by the Condors last weekend. 

    This is where MHR is completely Wrong having high goal differential against teams that just simply aren't as skilled or well coached is not better then winning close games against tough competition.
    The wave have had to play empire twice kings 2 twice both of which are much tougher teams then ducks 2 and ducks 3.
    This is IMHO where the eye test of seeing a majority of these teams play is better than any MHR ranking will be!  The only ones I haven't seen yet are SDIA and Gulls teams in the Entire Peewee A division. 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on December 18, 2019, 01:31:11 PM
    Power Rankings are the eye-test, strength of schedule, tourney history, etc.  Fun commentary like they do on ESPN and other sites. 


    MHR lists all games posted (tourney, preseason, season, etc.)  Wave1 is 18-3-1.  Losses to Kings2, EHC, DucksAAA08.
    Those 2 losses to kings 2 and ehc were in preseason and memorial day tournament before they added a few players to roster.  Given they did tie sdia and have a squeeker with Gulls 2 at home after the roster addition.  And last loss was to AAA minor team. 

    The goldrush team which is ranked higher in MHR hasnt played anyone that is any good Ducks 2 and Ducks 3 are best two teams they have played and only played them once.  This is also proven by the smackdown that was laid on the Rush by the Condors last weekend. 

    This is where MHR is completely Wrong having high goal differential against teams that just simply aren't as skilled or well coached is not better then winning close games against tough competition.
    The wave have had to play empire twice kings 2 twice both of which are much tougher teams then ducks 2 and ducks 3.
    This is IMHO where the eye test of seeing a majority of these teams play is better than any MHR ranking will be!  The only ones I haven't seen yet are SDIA and Gulls teams in the Entire Peewee A division.


    Technically, GR has 2 losses now.  vs Paramount Quakes, Condors
    Empire has 3 losses vs  OCHC AA, Wave1, and KingsAAA08 - very similar losses like the Wave. 
    SDIA are pure over-achievers.  Eye-test tells me they are not the real deal. 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BetterThanGetlaf on December 18, 2019, 01:34:59 PM
    Power Rankings are the eye-test, strength of schedule, tourney history, etc.  Fun commentary like they do on ESPN and other sites. 


    MHR lists all games posted (tourney, preseason, season, etc.)  Wave1 is 18-3-1.  Losses to Kings2, EHC, DucksAAA08.
    Those 2 losses to kings 2 and ehc were in preseason and memorial day tournament before they added a few players to roster.  Given they did tie sdia and have a squeeker with Gulls 2 at home after the roster addition.  And last loss was to AAA minor team. 

    The goldrush team which is ranked higher in MHR hasnt played anyone that is any good Ducks 2 and Ducks 3 are best two teams they have played and only played them once.  This is also proven by the smackdown that was laid on the Rush by the Condors last weekend. 

    This is where MHR is completely Wrong having high goal differential against teams that just simply aren't as skilled or well coached is not better then winning close games against tough competition.
    The wave have had to play empire twice kings 2 twice both of which are much tougher teams then ducks 2 and ducks 3.
    This is IMHO where the eye test of seeing a majority of these teams play is better than any MHR ranking will be!  The only ones I haven't seen yet are SDIA and Gulls teams in the Entire Peewee A division.


    I had no idea about the MHR, just the SCAHA site and I have to agree regarding the two pre season losses. I'm sure you all look at it differently but I just look at pre season as an extra month of hockey. Teams do some weird things at that time. Why did the wave  play a Ducks AAA team? wasn't it a given that would be a loss? a double A I think can go either way with most A teams depending on the roster, weekend, and coach.


    I'd be happy with any of the top 4 teams minus one (I don't like one of the clubs ethics or coach). Although, I kind of think Gold Rush kind of gets by easy with their ranking and season. Who knows maybe they won't perform well this year because they are dumbing down their playing with weak teams. Semi finals will either be a rewarding "told ya" or a slap of reality.


    and thanks for helping me put to sleep the whole power ranking questions...one day I'll even understand that LR thing under my name.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Socalhockey96 on December 19, 2019, 01:44:38 PM
    Not sure how you can say a team is "dumbing down their play" by playing weak teams when no team has any control over their schedule. The top 8 teams at the end of this season will have gotten there by playing mostly weak teams.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BetterThanGetlaf on December 19, 2019, 04:07:26 PM
    Not sure how you can say a team is "dumbing down their play" by playing weak teams when no team has any control over their schedule. The top 8 teams at the end of this season will have gotten there by playing mostly weak teams.


    Simply meaning since who they are playing isn't that hard, they don't play at their best. No insult implied.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on January 02, 2020, 09:30:26 AM
    Hope everyone had good and safe holidays


    This weeks picks


    Grush.               Vs                 JK2.            JKsBY 2
    CO-GAME OF THE WEEK


    SDIA.                  VS.              JD2           SDIA BY 4


    JGULLS2             VS.            EMPIRE       EMPIRE BY 2


    BEARS                  VS.            GRUSH         RUSH  BY 5


    OC2.                                      JREIGN       JR BY 2


    JD3.                   VS               JFLYERS    JD BY 3


    EPPERLY WAVE.                  JD4            EP WAVE BY 3


    WAVE2                   VS           JGULLS1   WAVE BY 2


    JCONDORS           VS           JK2.            UGLY BIRDS BY 2
    CO-GAME OF THE WEEK


    GOOD LUCK EVERYONE



    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on January 04, 2020, 01:40:39 PM
    Very interested in seeing who comes out rusty vs who played in holiday tourneys. 


    Also, GR v JK2 is for sure a big one to tell us contenders v pretenders.  Same for Condors v JK2.


    Looks like it's put up or shut up weekend for a few teams, especially the Kings2!!! 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: FrozenMom18 on January 05, 2020, 04:53:48 PM
    How'd the first games of 2020 go?
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on January 06, 2020, 10:44:44 AM
    Since B.O.(S) is not chirping,  I would guess his horse didnt have a good weekend. ;)
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on January 06, 2020, 11:30:51 AM
    Since B.O.(S) is not chirping,  I would guess his horse didnt have a good weekend. ;)


    Nah, just waiting for all the scores to come in.  Super exciting weekend of contenders and pretenders!  Also, a few MLK schedules are already out.  A LOT going on to digest and RANK!!!


    I see JK2 lost to GR 5-1, but haven't seen any others yet.  I had about 47 tabs open last night on MHR seeing if anyone was posting. 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on January 06, 2020, 11:39:47 AM
    There is literally only one other game posted so far:  Empire over Gulls2  9-0. 


    ...and as predicted in my Dec. 18 post, Gulls 2 (and Bears) miss playoffs, but think they still have a chance.   A 9-0 loss crushes those dreams..... 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on January 06, 2020, 12:22:50 PM
    JK2 VS Ugly Birds score
    ...anyone......
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on January 06, 2020, 01:04:29 PM
    JK2 VS Ugly Birds score
    ...anyone......


    If I had to guess, probably Condors 6-2 win...
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: FrozenMom18 on January 06, 2020, 01:40:03 PM
    Condors vs JK2 4-2
    Wave1 vs JD4 4-0
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: #4BobbyOrr on January 06, 2020, 04:08:10 PM
    JK2 was a little rusty after the long layoff.  Condors looked a little rusty too, not sure if they took any time off. Goldbrickers played like they practiced every day including Christmas and New Years. 


    Since B.O.(S) is not chirping,  I would guess his horse didnt have a good weekend. ;)


    This bird quit chirping a long time ago but since you mentioned it my horse is the 5-4 favorite to win the 2050 TSC Bronze AA cup like his old man did back in '11 and '12
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on January 06, 2020, 04:50:19 PM
    Lol !!


    Bet theres a different perspective in 2020.
    You have a few years inder your belt now.
    Really like the JKs but you cant fight physics.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on January 06, 2020, 05:04:04 PM
    There must be some lingo or jargon going over my head... either that or you think I like the Kings.  I fkn hate the Kings.  Hate all their tournaments too.  Smallest baby banner my kids ever won.  Great job cutting costs on the banner size. 


    Tinsel Town... More like Skimp-sel Town.


    Ducks > Kings
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on January 06, 2020, 06:01:55 PM
    There must be some lingo or jargon going over my head... either that or you think I like the Kings.  I fkn hate the Kings.  Hate all their tournaments too.  Smallest baby banner my kids ever won.  Great job cutting costs on the banner size. 


    Tinsel Town... More like Skimp-sel Town.


    Ducks > Kings
    Sometimes you love the ones you hate.


    Come on, come out of the closet.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on January 07, 2020, 11:35:16 AM
    There must be some lingo or jargon going over my head... either that or you think I like the Kings.  I fkn hate the Kings.  Hate all their tournaments too.  Smallest baby banner my kids ever won.  Great job cutting costs on the banner size. 


    Tinsel Town... More like Skimp-sel Town.


    Ducks > Kings
    Sometimes you love the ones you hate.


    Come on, come out of the closet.


    BladesofSteel99 ???  Never!
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on January 08, 2020, 10:40:43 AM
    Power... POWer... POWER RANKINGS, HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!


    Rank (big game remaining)
    1. Wave (vs Condors)
    2. Condors (vs Wave1, Empire)
    3. Empire (vs Condors)
    4. Goldrush (vs JD4, SDIA) ----- The GR vs SDIA game could be HUGE in the standings...
    5. SDIA (vs JD4, GR, JD3) ----- SLIM chance to finish in the top 3, but doubtful... 
    6. Kings2 (all automatic wins remaining)
    7. Ducks3 (vs Gulls2, SDIA)
    8. Ducks4 (vs GR, SDIA)
    9. Gulls 2 ...... OUT
    10. Bears .......OUT


    Well, it seems clear there is a top 4 and the rest all wasting their time.  Not much left to the imagination. 
    Still only a real chance for (3) of the teams to still finish with the 1st seed (Wave1, Condors, Goldrush)  EHC would lose the head-to-head even to a 1 loss Wave1.  SDIA is a wayyyy outside dark horse (and a pretender). 


    How you ask?

    Wave win out, they are #1 seed.  A loss to the Condors (or a tie) causes a huge mess.
    Goldrush walks away as #1 seed.  If Wave1, EHC, Condors all beat each other (Condors have to beat Wave1, EHC has to beat Condors).
    Condors win out they are #1 seed. At this point, it comes down to goal differential with GR. 


    Enjoy!
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on January 09, 2020, 01:37:50 PM
    This weeks picks


    SDIA               VS.            ICE DODS.         SDIA BY 5


    JD4                  VS.           GOLDRUSH.      RUSH BY 3


    JD2                    VS           EPPERLYWAVE  EPPWAVE BY 5


    JREIGN                              BEARS       DABEARS BY 2


    JD1.              VS                JFLYERS2     JFLY BY 2


    OC1               VS               JK1          OC1 BY 1


    WAVE 2.        VS               JD3.       JD3 BY 1


    OC2                 VS              JR CONDORD.    UGLY BIRDS BY 7


    JK2.                  VS             JRGULLS1.       JK2 BY 5


    GOOD LUCK EVERYONE !!



    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: AlexJ312 on January 09, 2020, 09:07:59 PM
    No EHC?
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on January 10, 2020, 10:00:52 AM
    No EHC?


    I'll help you...  EHC v Flyers1   Empire by 10
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: AlexJ312 on January 10, 2020, 06:17:26 PM
     :o
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on January 13, 2020, 08:03:56 AM
    Gulls1 tied Kings2.... please tell me that is a mistake. That's like the Titans beating the Ravens  :o
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on January 14, 2020, 11:44:45 PM
    The death of PW hockey predictions, you ask?  TIE SCORES!   Go kiss ur friggin sister.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on January 15, 2020, 07:16:20 AM
    The death of PW hockey predictions, you ask?  TIE SCORES!   Go kiss ur friggin sister.
    Are u on meds ?
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on January 15, 2020, 10:14:07 PM
    The death of PW hockey predictions, you ask?  TIE SCORES!   Go kiss ur friggin sister.
    Are u on meds ?
    So, I am ridiculed for elevated language and "big words," yet when I go base, it's short bus mizundastood. 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on January 18, 2020, 01:37:36 AM
    The death of PW hockey predictions, you ask?  TIE SCORES!   Go kiss ur friggin sister.
    Are u on meds ?
    So, I am ridiculed for elevated language and "big words," yet when I go base, it's short bus mizundastood.
    Yes
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on January 23, 2020, 11:32:29 AM
    This weeks picks


    Bears.             Vs             JK1.       DaBEARS BY 3


    SDIA.                VS            JD4.       SDIA BY 1


    EMPIRE.                            JD1        EMPIRE BY 3


    JFLYERS.             VS         OC2.      FLYERS BY 1


    JCONDORS.        VS.        EPPERLYWAVE      PICK


    JK2.                      VS         OC1    JKs BY 5


    JGULLS.             VS.          JD2      GULLS BY 2


    GOLDRUSH         VS.          WAVE 2.     RUSH BY 4


    ICEDOGS.             VS           JREIGN.    DOGS BY 4 (BF STILL OWES ME $$)


    good luck everyone
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on January 24, 2020, 07:40:30 AM
    Would like some opinions. Going from PWA to bantams, what would be the consensus....go Bantam A or AA


    I want to hear from people that have already done it.  Not a PW parent that thinks his Lil Gretzky is bound for Bantam AA because he did ok in non tiered PW
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: rmackintosh on January 24, 2020, 09:05:04 AM
    Would like some opinions. Going from PWA to bantams, what would be the consensus....go Bantam A or AA


    I want to hear from people that have already done it.  Not a PW parent that thinks his Lil Gretzky is bound for Bantam AA because he did ok in non tiered PW


    Not knowing the kids skill level, I would think the bigger question would be how he handles contact--as with Bantams comes increased checking/physical play. If he is one who shies away from contact naturally, or he is much smaller than others his age, I would tend to let him adjust in a more comfortable place. Pressure to play up combined with anxiousness about checking can be a big issue--been there...seen that.


    Now, obviously if he is really only a A player, you need to know and understand that and make the right choice. Putting a kid up a level when he is not ready, can have the same effect. But you will need to make that determination between you, your kid and his coaches and those on the AA team he would try out for. There is a wide range of answers here--does your A player need to be a STUD in A in order to consider moving to AA--absolutely not. But he at least needs to be a solid A player who responds well to a challenge. JMHO
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: 2 Cups in LA on January 24, 2020, 10:24:50 AM
    Is your kid a strong skater?  Does he have speed?  Does he pass well?  Does he stay in position?  Does he understand the difference in "I or team?" If he is I player?  Have him play A so he can continue to be a little Gretzky!
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on January 24, 2020, 11:24:32 AM
    Looking more as a group-team than individial
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: rmackintosh on January 24, 2020, 02:45:37 PM
    Looking more as a group-team than individial


    That would make the decision even harder to make--especially with little to no information.


    But the same decision points would still apply A) Do the kids feel comfortable with higher physicality? B) are the kids average to strong A players at best?


    Obviously much harder to give generic answer since you would need to make those calls for EACH kid on the team, then aggregate into a team decision. LOTS of possibilities that would make AA a good option and just as many making it a bad option. Too many variables to give a decent answer.


    Ideally, this decision would be best/most accurately made on a player by player basis.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BetterThanGetlaf on January 27, 2020, 01:29:04 PM
    are this weekends scores correct? the ones that have been posted
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on January 27, 2020, 02:37:24 PM
    are this weekends scores correct? the ones that have been posted
    Which ones surprised you ?
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: lcadad on January 27, 2020, 03:16:50 PM
    Looking more as a group-team than individial


    If the team is cleaning up at A, then that's a good reason to look towards AA.


    Historically, minor year teams moving to Bantam struggle with the physicality.  Size of the team does matter, but most likely an average size minor year Bantam team is going to end up in Flight2. 


    The AA Flight system is a joke, but if the main objective is competition, it's probably better to play in Flight2 than to play in Bantam A and win 90% of all the games by 5+ goals.  Again this presupposes that you have a team that has just outgrown PWA and/or should have been playing AA all year.  Usually that is obvious at this point of the season, and can be proven in end of year tournament play.

    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: dionnefan on January 27, 2020, 03:34:46 PM
    There is a great new hockey podcast many of you may enjoy. It's a weekly show geared towards parents who are newer to the sport or are just starting out and have questions. Check it out if you have a chance..https://anchor.fm/randy-gifford (https://anchor.fm/randy-gifford)
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BetterThanGetlaf on January 27, 2020, 04:59:06 PM
    are this weekends scores correct? the ones that have been posted
    Which ones surprised you ?


    Ducks 4 and SDIA


    And while not really surprising Condors are probably going to drop in the next 3 games. I thought if they beat Wave they might be really strong.


    any idea who is going to be 6-7-8
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: lcadad on January 27, 2020, 06:33:01 PM
    There is a great new hockey podcast many of you may enjoy. It's a weekly show geared towards parents who are newer to the sport or are just starting out and have questions. Check it out if you have a chance..https://anchor.fm/randy-gifford (https://anchor.fm/randy-gifford)


    Listened to all 3 episodes.  Smart, funny, plenty of "hot takes" as the kids like to say. 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on January 27, 2020, 08:12:39 PM
    SDIA is a fake team...  Pretenders. 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on January 27, 2020, 08:13:49 PM
    are this weekends scores correct? the ones that have been posted
    Which ones surprised you ?


    Ducks 4 and SDIA


    And while not really surprising Condors are probably going to drop in the next 3 games. I thought if they beat Wave they might be really strong.


    any idea who is going to be 6-7-8


    Have you NOT read my POWER RANKINGS?!?!?  All your answers are there.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on January 27, 2020, 08:15:28 PM
    :o


    Was I wrong?!?!?
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on January 27, 2020, 09:11:26 PM
    SDIA is a fake team...  Pretenders.
    my guess is they were short some players (the one that i got admonished for praising)
    Changes that team
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: AlexJ312 on January 28, 2020, 05:51:57 AM
    :o


    Was I wrong?!?!?


    Not at all!!!!
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: HockeyDad73 on January 29, 2020, 09:57:23 AM
    Running through some potential scenarios with this years playoff seedings I just now noticed GR plays an extra game.  16 reg games vs everyone else's 15.


    This happened last year in SQBB where they were 1 point shy of a playoff spot and could have bumped a team that earned a spot but played 1 less game.  Teams were told they picked a game at random at the beginning of the season and will "unveil" that pick when the season is over.  Unveil to whom I have no idea.  Win or lose the game is dropped, potentially affecting their qualifying for playoffs or seeding (like it will this year especially if they drop their loss to Bakersfield).


    How is it the GR is awarded this luxury of an extra game?  Do their clubs always get an extra game and I am just now noticing?  I'm calling BS.


    Also, teams like Wave 1 only play their regular 15 while most other clubs played at least 1 exhibition game and at least 1 team (looking at you Kings 2) will have played 2.


    So GR could potentially come out of this season undefeated and top seed if that loss is discarded at the end of the season.

    /rant off


    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Rats13 on January 29, 2020, 10:18:01 AM
    With 21 teams getting a 15 game schedule someone would need to play an extra game.  How the decide who plays that game and the random dropped game I have no idea but I somehow there some grand conspiracy at the PWA level.  My experience has been mostly seems like SCAHA drops the teams and ices slots into a scheduling system and it is what it is.  We've been on teams with 2 home games all season.  Going to away games twice in one season to the same team.  I'm sure it's a big job to balance but i'm not certain they care that much.  My 2 cents
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: HockeyDad73 on January 29, 2020, 10:41:07 AM
    With 21 teams getting a 15 game schedule someone would need to play an extra game.


    I fully understand that part but it's just 2 years in a row with the same club makes me suspect.


    My seeding predictions:



    1   Wave (1)        29 pts
    2   Goldrush        28 pts   (Max 30 - Bakersfield Loss Dropped)
    3   Empire HC        25 pts   (Max 27 - Win vs Condors)
    4   Jr Condors        24 pts   (Max 26 - Win vs Empire)
    5   SDIA           23 pts   (Max 25 - Win vs Ducks3)
    6   Jr. Kings (2)    21 pts
    7   Jr. Ducks (3)   21 pts   (Max 23 - Win vs SDIA)
    8   Jr. Ducks (4)   19 pts


    Wave 1   vs  Jr. Ducks (4)
    Goldrush   vs   Jr. Ducks (3)
    Empire HC   vs   Jr. Kings (2)
    Jr Condors   vs   SDIA



    So some potential for minor changes but i'd say it's going to be pretty close.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on January 29, 2020, 01:40:22 PM
    Running through some potential scenarios with this years playoff seedings I just now noticed GR plays an extra game.  16 reg games vs everyone else's 15.

    Also, teams like Wave 1 only play their regular 15 while most other clubs played at least 1 exhibition game and at least 1 team (looking at you Kings 2) will have played 2.


    So GR could potentially come out of this season undefeated and top seed if that loss is discarded at the end of the season.

    /rant off


    LMAO!!!!!  You mean GR played 16 and STILL didn't have to play the 2 best teams (Wave1, EHC)  lolololololololz!
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on January 29, 2020, 01:45:03 PM
    With 21 teams getting a 15 game schedule someone would need to play an extra game.


    I fully understand that part but it's just 2 years in a row with the same club makes me suspect.



    No, the schedule is a guarantee as such for all teams/clubs:  a combination of 20 games TOTAL (pre, exb, season).  That's what you pay to get.  Having 21 teams means nothing for 15 or 16, that's nonsense. 


    GR got 4 preseason and 16 season.  Some got 4 pre, 1 exb, 15 season....  it all balances out.  I get it.... not balanced for playoffs.  I hear you...   
    I have even been part of a season where there was 5 pre, 15 season and 0 exb.  FYI it is the 20 game number SCAHA cares about fulfilling. 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on January 29, 2020, 01:51:34 PM
    With 21 teams getting a 15 game schedule someone would need to play an extra game.

    Wave 1   vs  Jr. Ducks (4)
    Goldrush   vs   Jr. Ducks (3)
    Empire HC   vs   Jr. Kings (2)
    Jr Condors   vs   SDIA

    So some potential for minor changes but i'd say it's going to be pretty close.


    Unless there was a major change, that is not how playoff work.  It is round-robin 1,4,5,8 in Pool A and 2,3,6,7 in Pool B.  Top 2 records from each Pool after Pool-play advance to a semi (single-elimination) then a championship. 


    Top 4 that are probably going to be in the semis (Wave1, EHC, Goldrush, and winner of SDIAvCondors)
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: HockeyDad73 on January 29, 2020, 02:53:34 PM
    Good to know.  I just assumed.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BetterThanGetlaf on January 29, 2020, 04:06:54 PM
    Running through some potential scenarios with this years playoff seedings I just now noticed GR plays an extra game.  16 reg games vs everyone else's 15.

    Also, teams like Wave 1 only play their regular 15 while most other clubs played at least 1 exhibition game and at least 1 team (looking at you Kings 2) will have played 2.


    So GR could potentially come out of this season undefeated and top seed if that loss is discarded at the end of the season.

    /rant off


    LMAO!!!!!  You mean GR played 16 and STILL didn't have to play the 2 best teams (Wave1, EHC)  lolololololololz!


    Realistically GR is probably in for a very rough play offs. They haven't played many "hard games" so it looks good in the standings but it might be just smoke and mirrors. But when the season started no one knew who was really going to be strong and who was just a lot of hot air.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on January 29, 2020, 04:12:25 PM
    Running through some potential scenarios with this years playoff seedings I just now noticed GR plays an extra game.  16 reg games vs everyone else's 15.

    Also, teams like Wave 1 only play their regular 15 while most other clubs played at least 1 exhibition game and at least 1 team (looking at you Kings 2) will have played 2.


    So GR could potentially come out of this season undefeated and top seed if that loss is discarded at the end of the season.

    /rant off


    LMAO!!!!!  You mean GR played 16 and STILL didn't have to play the 2 best teams (Wave1, EHC)  lolololololololz!


    Realistically GR is probably in for a very rough play offs. They haven't played many "hard games" so it looks good in the standings but it might be just smoke and mirrors. But when the season started no one knew who was really going to be strong and who was just a lot of hot air.
    Goldrush is a legit team


    Not as good as their parents think they are, but legit.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on January 30, 2020, 09:26:45 AM
    Goldrush is a legit teamNot as good as their parents think they are, but legit.


    I have seen them play several times.  There is a reason I have them in the semi-final round.  As far as I am concerned, if the seeding play out as we all think...

    Pool A
    1 - Wave1
    4 - Condors
    5 - SDIA
    8 - JD4 (head-to-head v Bears in 2 weeks... last chance for Bears)

    Pool B
    2 - Goldrush
    3 - Empire
    6 - JK2
    7 - JD3

    Pool A - Wave1, Aaaaaaaaaaaaaand the second is a huge coin flip!  My instinct says Condors.
    Pool B - GR, EHC (other two have zero chance.)
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on January 31, 2020, 08:52:54 AM
    This weeks picks


    JGULLS1            VS             OC2           GULLS BY 3


    JK1.                     VS              JD2          DUCKS BY 3


    Da BEARS            VS             EMPIRE    EMPIRE BY 6


    JDUCKS4.            VS.             FLYERS2    DUCKS BY 3


    JDUCKS3             VS.              JGULLS2        DUCKS BY 2


    ICE DOGS              VS            JFLYERS1        DOGS BY 2


    GOLDRUSH.           VS.          JRBENNYS.      RUSH BY 12


    OC1                   VS.            JR. CONDORD


    IGLY BIRDS  BY 13


    GOOD LUCK EVERYONE
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on January 31, 2020, 10:10:44 AM
    POWER RANKINGS WK 12 and final standings predictions


    1. Wave1 = 11-0-1 ; 14-0-1(29)
    2. Condors = 9-2-0 ; 12-3-0(24)
    3. Empire HC = 9-1-1 ; 13-1-1(27)
    4. Goldrush = 11-1-0 ; 14-1-1(27) win taken away
    5. SDIA = 8-1-3 ; 10-1-4(24) huge TIE vs Goldrush prediction!!!
    6. Kings2 = 8-4-1 ; 10-4-1(21)
    7. Ducks3 = 7-3-1 ; 9-5-1(19)
    8. Ducks4 = 5-4-3 ; 7-4-4(18)
    9. Bears = 6-4-1 ; 7-6-2(16)
    10. Gulls1 = 5-5-2 ; 7-6-2(16)


    Playoff Pool-seeds:
    A
    1. Wave1
    4. Condors
    5. SDIA
    8. JD4


    B
    2. Goldrush (GD over EHC)
    3. Empire HC
    6. Kings2
    7. JD3
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on January 31, 2020, 01:32:49 PM
    Your group A looks very competitive
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on January 31, 2020, 01:45:43 PM
    Your group A looks very competitive


    I said it in an earlier post...  Unlucky draw I guess, but Condors, SDIA, and JD4 all could beat each other on any given good/bad day, but I give Condors the edge. 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on January 31, 2020, 03:54:47 PM
    This is playoffs....ANY of those 4 teams can beat each other.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on February 04, 2020, 01:46:15 PM
    Wow..... JD3 got blown out by Gulls2?!?!?  *MINDBLOWN


    They are so inconsistent it is ridiculous.  That's all about coaching.  They blow out typical bottom feeder teams, play tight in big games, but also get blown out.  Bad game maybe? 


    They seem to have potential, but it might be too little, too late to get in the playoffs...
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: HockeyDad73 on February 05, 2020, 04:05:13 PM
    Wow..... JD3 got blown out by Gulls2?!?!?  *MINDBLOWN


    They are so inconsistent it is ridiculous.  That's all about coaching.  They blow out typical bottom feeder teams, play tight in big games, but also get blown out.  Bad game maybe? 


    They seem to have potential, but it might be too little, too late to get in the playoffs...


    Crazy.  Watching teams currently ranked 7th, 8th, & 9th finish is going to be pretty exciting.  Good chance Ducks 3 will slip to 8th but can possibly lose their playoff spot to Gulls 1.  Next 2-3 games are crucial for both clubs and they both have some competition waiting.



    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on February 06, 2020, 01:38:19 PM
    Wow..... JD3 got blown out by Gulls2?!?!?  *MINDBLOWN


    They are so inconsistent it is ridiculous.  That's all about coaching.  They blow out typical bottom feeder teams, play tight in big games, but also get blown out.  Bad game maybe? 


    They seem to have potential, but it might be too little, too late to get in the playoffs...


    Crazy.  Watching teams currently ranked 7th, 8th, & 9th finish is going to be pretty exciting.  Good chance Ducks 3 will slip to 8th but can possibly lose their playoff spot to Gulls 1.  Next 2-3 games are crucial for both clubs and they both have some competition waiting.


    I stand by my predictions!!!  Also, coming soon.... new POWER RANKINGS!
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: AlexJ312 on February 08, 2020, 07:23:57 PM
    No predictions for tomorrow?
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on February 12, 2020, 10:39:35 AM
    With 21 teams getting a 15 game schedule someone would need to play an extra game.
    My seeding predictions:

    1   Wave (1)        29 pts
    2   Goldrush        28 pts   (Max 30 - Bakersfield Loss Dropped)
    3   Empire HC        25 pts   (Max 27 - Win vs Condors)
    4   Jr Condors        24 pts   (Max 26 - Win vs Empire)
    5   SDIA           23 pts   (Max 25 - Win vs Ducks3)
    6   Jr. Kings (2)    21 pts
    7   Jr. Ducks (3)   21 pts   (Max 23 - Win vs SDIA)
    8   Jr. Ducks (4)   19 pts
    Wave 1   vs  Jr. Ducks (4)
    Goldrush   vs   Jr. Ducks (3)
    Empire HC   vs   Jr. Kings (2)
    Jr Condors   vs   SDIA



    UPDATE!!! - Quite the little shake-up at the bottom of the playoff race...  It's THE PUSH TO THE PLAYOFFS!!!
    My seeding predictions:


    1   Wave (1)        29 pts
    2   Goldrush        28 pts   (Max 30 - Bakersfield Loss Dropped)
    3   Empire HC        25 pts   (Max 27 - Win vs Condors)
    4   Jr Condors        24 pts   (Max 26 - Win vs Empire)
    5   SDIA           23 pts   (Max 25 - Win vs Ducks3)
    6   Jr. Kings (2)    21 pts


    1 thru 6 All LOCKED UP!  Then the sh!tstorm...  the cutoff for playoff points seems to be 18. 


    Jr. Ducks (3) *17pts (2GR, fate in their own hands, but two impossible matchups vs Bears and SDIA.  Wow, just wow.)
    Bears           *15pts (2GR, is that last game vs Wave2 an automatic win?  Will JD3 ruin their hopes?)
    Gulls 1         *14pts (2GR, is game vs IcePups an automatic win?  Will the final game vs JD4 even matter?)


    2-22-20 Bears v JD3... play-in game?!?!?


    OUT!!!
    Jr. Ducks (4) *15pts (1GR, screwed themselves by losing to Bears.  HUGE swing game.  Can they even beat Gulls1?)
    Gulls 2 *16pts (1GR, MUST beat Goldrush for a shot and 18 pts.... sooooooo  yeah, goodbye)
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on February 12, 2020, 10:46:56 AM
    Basically,
    if Gulls 1 wins out...  JD3 v Bears is a play-in game.
    if Gulls 1 can't beat JD4, JD4, Bears/JD3 loser goes to GD...  JD3 is lowest. 

    Three teams for the last two spots and it's really a toss-up. 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on February 12, 2020, 10:50:35 AM
    What's probably gonna happen?

    Bears win out (19pts)
    JD3 beats SDIA (19Pts
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on February 13, 2020, 09:37:51 AM
    What's probably gonna happen?

    Bears win out (19pts)
    JD3 beats SDIA (19Pts
    Cant see JD3 beat SDIA
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on February 13, 2020, 09:40:15 AM
    Dont see too many playoff teams in tournaments this weekend, why ??
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: AlexJ312 on February 13, 2020, 06:54:13 PM
    EHC is doing a tournament in Colorado.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: FrozenMom18 on February 13, 2020, 08:45:35 PM
    Goldrush is as well
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BetterThanGetlaf on February 13, 2020, 11:29:43 PM
    Is GR playing EHC in CO?
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: AlexJ312 on February 14, 2020, 06:19:15 AM
    No, they are not.
    They are playing OCHC 12UAA though. That's the only Cali team they are playing out there.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: FrozenMom18 on February 15, 2020, 07:46:59 AM
    They are in the same AA division different pools
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on February 15, 2020, 02:54:10 PM
    Wave1 went to Tinseltown and is 0-2.  Lost to BWC and Bears AA.  Playing in AA Elite. 


    Haven't found if Bakersfield went anywhere. 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on February 15, 2020, 02:58:51 PM
    SDIA in a weak AA tournament in SD.  4 teams and one is Gulls2 PWA.....
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on February 16, 2020, 09:25:29 AM
    Jk tournament has


    AAA DUCKS 08
    AAA KINGS 08
    AABEARS
    BC TEAM
    WAVE
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on February 16, 2020, 04:24:59 PM
    Wave 0-3 at Tinseltown. 
    Goldrush 0-2-2 in CO (will it get reported to MHR?  lolol no).
    Empire HC 2-1-1 in CO
    SDIA 1-2 in SD AA tourney... got smoked by the 2 AA teams they played...  only beat Gulls2 A.....


    No info on Condors???


    That's the top 5 in SCAHA 12UA.  Not jumping to conclusions, but contenders and pretenders separating themselves. 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: HockeyDad73 on February 19, 2020, 08:26:03 AM
    Wave 0-3 at Tinseltown. 
    Goldrush 0-2-2 in CO (will it get reported to MHR?  lolol no).
    Empire HC 2-1-1 in CO
    SDIA 1-2 in SD AA tourney... got smoked by the 2 AA teams they played...  only beat Gulls2 A.....


    No info on Condors???


    That's the top 5 in SCAHA 12UA.  Not jumping to conclusions, but contenders and pretenders separating themselves.


    Condors went 4-0 in Vegas at A however. (https://www.lasvegasice.com/HOCKEY/YOUTHTOURNAMENTS/TournamentSchedule.aspx)
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on February 19, 2020, 10:09:20 AM
    Wave 0-3 at Tinseltown. 
    Goldrush 0-2-2 in CO (will it get reported to MHR?  lolol no).
    Empire HC 2-1-1 in CO
    SDIA 1-2 in SD AA tourney... got smoked by the 2 AA teams they played...  only beat Gulls2 A.....


    No info on Condors???


    That's the top 5 in SCAHA 12UA.  Not jumping to conclusions, but contenders and pretenders separating themselves.


    Condors went 4-0 in Vegas at A however. (https://www.lasvegasice.com/HOCKEY/YOUTHTOURNAMENTS/TournamentSchedule.aspx)


    Wow, kind of a letdown.  I mean, an "A" tourney with Gulls and IceDogs?  That Flagstaff team is ranked #305 on MHR.  Yikes.  They didn't really go out of their way to challenge themselves, did they? 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on February 21, 2020, 12:26:37 PM
    What happened?  Did everyone's account get banned?
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on February 21, 2020, 03:12:29 PM
    THIS WEEKS PICKS


    JK1.            VS           EPPERLY WAVE.     EPP WAVE BY 8


    DaBEARS.      VS.      JD3         Da BEARS BY 1


    FLYERS 1.                    JD2         JDs by 2


    CONDORS             VS.      EMPIRE.   UGLY BIRDS BY 2


    JK1.                  VS         OC2.      OC BY 2


    WAVE 2.            VS.        FLYERS 2        WAVE BY 1


    ICE DOGS.         VS.         GULLS 1        DOGS BY 2


    GOLDRUSH        VS         SDIA        RUSH BY 1/2


    GOOD LUCK EVERYONE
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: shortshorts66 on February 22, 2020, 04:47:22 PM
    There is one team to beat in Pee Wee A this season’s
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BetterThanGetlaf on February 22, 2020, 11:53:47 PM
    THIS WEEKS PICKS


    JK1.            VS           EPPERLY WAVE.     EPP WAVE BY 8


    DaBEARS.      VS.      JD3         Da BEARS BY 1


    FLYERS 1.                    JD2         JDs by 2


    CONDORS             VS.      EMPIRE.   UGLY BIRDS BY 2


    JK1.                  VS         OC2.      OC BY 2


    WAVE 2.            VS.        FLYERS 2        WAVE BY 1


    ICE DOGS.         VS.         GULLS 1        DOGS BY 2


    GOLDRUSH        VS         SDIA        RUSH BY 1/2


    GOOD LUCK EVERYONE


    I think you meant JD1 vs Epp Wave (not JK1) Not sure if that changes your prediction
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on February 23, 2020, 06:34:44 AM
    Nope
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BetterThanGetlaf on February 23, 2020, 10:12:25 AM
    Nope


    I don't know, I see that the Ducks 1 are playing Wave 1 at Great Parks. It's listed here as J. KINGS 1, but I guess SCAHA makes mistakes.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on February 23, 2020, 09:07:24 PM
    Any word on empire/condors ?
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Socalhockey96 on February 23, 2020, 10:30:18 PM
    Heard Condor/Empire  was a tie 1-1 and SDIA lost 2-1 against GR.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: AlexJ312 on February 24, 2020, 06:11:37 AM
    Confirmed!
    EHC and Jr. Condors tied 1-1.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on February 24, 2020, 01:39:40 PM
    Just when you think you have it all figured out..... the Bears go and ruin everything...

    SPOTS 1-6 are all locked up.  With the recent upsets and under-achievers, there are amazingly 5, yep, FIVE teams all fighting for the FINAL 2 spots for SCAHA playoffs. 

    Jinkies!!!
    Bears, Ducks3, Gulls1, Gulls2, and Ducks 4

    Bears    17  --(19) easy win vs Wave2
    Ducks3  17 --(??)  huge play-in game vs SDIA
    Gulls2   16  --(??)  very tough gm vs Goldrush

    Gulls1   16  --(??)
    vs  ----------- Play-in gm???  HUGE
    Ducks4  15  --(??)

    Predictions: A lot of possibilities.  In reality, 4 teams for 1 spot.  Just  try and wrap your heads around all the "what if's" 
    REALITY - Ducks3 lose, Gulls2 lose, Gulls1vDucks4 winner in....  WOW!!! 

    Good luck!  *can you imagine being Ducks3 and missing playoffs because of goal differential to (JD4)...JINKIES!!!
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on March 01, 2020, 04:08:47 PM
    Wow...


    Gulls1 with the big win over Ducks4. 


    Fun Facts:  ZERO Ducks teams in the playoffs  ;D
    Gulls2 almost beat Goldrush, but it would not have mattered. 
    Gulls 1 and 2 were playing at home at the same time today.  LAME!
    Ducks3 had their fate in their own hands and fell on their beaks.  (JD3 beat Gulls1 during the season)


    Any word on the "fake game" thrown away for Goldrush?
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on March 01, 2020, 06:20:11 PM
    Thats all thats left to be seen. 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Goaliedad21 on March 01, 2020, 07:27:24 PM
    Scaha will probably take away the game gold rush got smoked by the condors lol
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BetterThanGetlaf on March 01, 2020, 11:14:12 PM
    Well look at that, GR dropped a win (and a lot of GF/GD points). They finish 2nd.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Goaliedad21 on March 03, 2020, 10:47:10 PM
    Who’s winning it all??? Predictions???
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Slapper on March 04, 2020, 08:53:05 AM
    Not sure who wins it all, top 4 teams are solid. After 1st round of playoffs semifinals should look like this.


    Wave vs GR
    Empire vs Condors


    Team that shows up wins.  Scaha and Caha title comes from Socal so final prediction is Wave vs Empire for both championships.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on March 04, 2020, 09:04:48 AM
    Not sure who wins it all, top 4 teams are solid. After 1st round of playoffs semifinals should look like this.


    Wave vs GR
    Empire vs Condors


    Team that shows up wins.  Scaha and Caha title comes from Socal so final prediction is Wave vs Empire for both championships.


    I likely agree on the final 4 and the matchups; however, I will say I have kept a CLOSE eye on the SC Blackhawks.  They were at the jamboree CAHA weekend for AA and dropped down.  They are ranked just as high/higher (depending on time of season) as Wave1 and Empire.  SCB has pretty much dominated every "A" team in NorCal.  Yes, the NorCal teams are a joke, but they still have played 14 or so AA tournament games and have taken their lumps.  I would say they are a very, VERY capable team. 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Slapper on March 05, 2020, 12:39:03 PM
    SC Blackhawks do look legit, just looked them up. Should be interesting,  good luck to all.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on March 05, 2020, 12:59:18 PM
    Will be surprised if all top 4 teams in the regular season go on. Few years ago PW AA #1 seed lost to #8 seed and went home.


    ANYONE CAN BEAT ANYONE.


    An overconfident team can easily get bounced.



    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on March 05, 2020, 01:15:41 PM
    When looking at the teams, I truly believe that there is a clear gap between 1-4 and 5-8.  It has been a long season and these teams have played enough games to predict accurately what's going to happen. 


    Just take a look, the top 4 just don't lose games unless it is against the other top 4 caliber teams.  SDIA is scrappy, but never really has proven to separate itself from the weaker teams (MAYBE, if anyone makes it, it might be SDIA, but do you really believe they can beat Wave1 or Condors?  I do not). 


    As for that Kings team, it is no cowinkidink that all their losses (including preseason) are to every top 5 team and a tie to the other playoff team.  The only playoff team they beat was the Bears.... and I had them OUT of the playoffs a month ago. 


    I would be shocked if anyone outside of 1-5 made it.  SHOCKED, I SAY!!! 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: justanotherhockeydad on March 05, 2020, 03:18:50 PM
    Few years ago PW AA #1 seed lost to #8 seed and went home.
    Bro, that #1 seed PWAA squad lost to the "9th" seed  8)
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on March 05, 2020, 04:22:04 PM
    Few years ago PW AA #1 seed lost to #8 seed and went home.
    Bro, that #1 seed PWAA squad lost to the "9th" seed  8)
    I figured you would cherp in.  Good luck in States
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: justanotherhockeydad on March 05, 2020, 04:26:58 PM
    I figured you would cherp in.  Good luck in States

    You know how I do it! Come watch bro!!!
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on March 06, 2020, 08:35:14 AM
    You guys should be more worried about the coronavirus than a non-top 4 team advancing. 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on March 06, 2020, 09:31:18 AM
    You guys should be more worried about the coronavirus than a non-top 4 team advancing.
    I'm good......i drink Pacifico.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on March 06, 2020, 12:38:00 PM
    You guys should be more worried about the coronavirus than a non-top 4 team advancing.
    I'm good......i drink Pacifico.


    YIKES!!  Only Tito's is an approved disinfectant. 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BetterThanGetlaf on March 07, 2020, 11:51:44 PM
    Saturday's winner was the Wave parent that was chirping the SDIA CLUCKING CHICKENS...Beers on me!! Somehow, they managed to annoy everyone in that building! It's all in good fun and all but, seriously enough of a reason to join the Gulls instead. In Playoff news, did GR really lose to the Bears and Empire beat the King in OT?! Further proof that anyone can win it.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: #4BobbyOrr on March 08, 2020, 07:13:33 AM
    Not only did the Bears win the were up 3-0 by the second pd. Goldrush made a valiant effort at a comeback. And if Empire hadn't tied it with 9 seconds left, they wouldn't have gotten a chance to win in overtime on a play that should have been whistled dead.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on March 08, 2020, 02:57:46 PM
    Uh oh!  It's that time of year for the Excuses Train! 


    CHOOOO-CHOOOOOO!!!!
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: #4BobbyOrr on March 08, 2020, 10:32:16 PM
    Uh oh!  It's that time of year for the Excuses Train! 


    CHOOOO-CHOOOOOO!!!!


    No excuses just facts. Tell us what the future holds this week oh swami!



    You guys should be more worried about the coronavirus than a non-top 4 team advancing.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Goaliedad21 on March 08, 2020, 10:44:01 PM
    Wave vs bears
    Empire vs condors
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on March 09, 2020, 06:22:14 AM
    2 teams that score at least 1 more goal than the other will go on.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on March 09, 2020, 07:39:56 AM
    Well, as predicted all year....


    SDIA was a garbage and a false prophet from day 1. 
    Bronzerush was hiding all there losses on MHR and was highly over ranked.
    ***(all of the sudden they have lost 5 out of last 7 (1-5-1) and are going home.)
    Wave1, Empire, Condors have been the teams to beat ALL SEASON LONG.


    Only thing I got wrong was Bears.  To be honest, after watching a bunch of their games, they have a big goalie(s) and 5 players that stand in front of the net (like the glory days of OCHC teams - PACK IT IN!)  Just like BLUTARSKY's GPA, they have a ZERO-POINT-ZERO chance of advancing to the finals! *in bold, but NOT a bold prediction. 


    Also, that little (young) Kings team was too young for the big stage.  I guess winning a PW "A" aka Squirt Tinseltown tournament didn't prepare them for big-boy playoff hockey.  (Not a slight.  Just a joke.  Don't get your panties jammed in your crack.  Aren't those kids 09s? They will be fine.) 


    AND!  The Bears advancing was about the 1-3% equivalence of fatal coronavirus spread in CA. 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: HockeyDad73 on March 09, 2020, 08:14:02 AM
    Not only did the Bears win the were up 3-0 by the second pd. Goldrush made a valiant effort at a comeback. And if Empire hadn't tied it with 9 seconds left, they wouldn't have gotten a chance to win in overtime on a play that should have been whistled dead.


    It “should” have been whistled dead but the unfortunate goaltender lifted his glove off the puck before the whistle.  The intent to whistle rule doesn’t exist in youth hockey I guess.  Nothing controversial really, just hockey.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on March 09, 2020, 08:19:21 AM
    Not only did the Bears win the were up 3-0 by the second pd. Goldrush made a valiant effort at a comeback. And if Empire hadn't tied it with 9 seconds left, they wouldn't have gotten a chance to win in overtime on a play that should have been whistled dead.


    It “should” have been whistled dead but the unfortunate goaltender lifted his glove off the puck before the whistle.  The intent to whistle rule doesn’t exist in youth hockey I guess.  Nothing controversial really, just hockey.


    Also, you realize IF Empire lost that game in regulation they would STILL be the #1 seed out of that pool b/c they beat Bears head-to-head.  That game seems to have proven to mean nothing except for IFs and BUTs and COCONUTS! 


    ...and this whole board had it wrong - everyone thought Pool A was brutal, yet it went pretty much as planned.  Pool B had the closer/tougher games.  Not sure what that means,  :o
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on March 09, 2020, 08:25:20 AM
    Well, as predicted all year....


    SDIA was a garbage and a false prophet from day 1. 
    Bronzerush was hiding all there losses on MHR and was highly over ranked.
    ***(all of the sudden they have lost 5 out of last 7 (1-5-1) and are going home.)
    Wave1, Empire, Condors have been the teams to beat ALL SEASON LONG.


    Only thing I got wrong was Bears.  To be honest, after watching a bunch of their games, they have a big goalie(s) and 5 players that stand in front of the net (like the glory days of OCHC teams - PACK IT IN!)  Just like BLUTARSKY's GPA, they have a ZERO-POINT-ZERO chance of advancing to the finals! *in bold, but NOT a bold prediction. 


    Also, that little (young) Kings team was too young for the big stage.  I guess winning a PW "A" aka Squirt Tinseltown tournament didn't prepare them for big-boy playoff hockey.  (Not a slight.  Just a joke.  Don't get your panties jammed in your crack.  Aren't those kids 09s? They will be fine.) 


    AND!  The Bears advancing was about the 1-3% equivalence of fatal coronavirus spread in CA.
    I dont know about calling a team of 12 year olds garbage.  A bit harsh.


    There are a few of what i would call "dirty" players and parents are a bit........animated.
    Seems like typical SD group to me.  Nutty parents and a few kids with short fuses.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on March 09, 2020, 08:49:28 AM
    Sorry, not sorry.  I have had a personal rivalry with SDIA for years.  Just clean trash-talk.  Rivalries are healthy.  They still have the coolest Zamboni door in all of California. 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BetterThanGetlaf on March 09, 2020, 09:18:52 AM
    And the Jerseys are cool. I wonder has anyone ever played a game against SDIA where there wasn't a MAJOR injury? You know the kind that takes 10-20 min. to check with their "team doctor"  but the kid is back on the ice in 5? Kids will be kids, some are hot heads and do questionable things, but it all starts from the Coach.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on March 09, 2020, 11:48:17 AM
    And the Jerseys are cool. I wonder has anyone ever played a game against SDIA where there wasn't a MAJOR injury? You know the kind that takes 10-20 min. to check with their "team doctor"  but the kid is back on the ice in 5? Kids will be kids, some are hot heads and do questionable things, but it all starts from the Coach.


    Lolololololz...  they are not the only team that does this, but you kinda nailed it. 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Slapper on March 10, 2020, 08:33:19 AM
    Anyone hear that Goldrush is contesting their games or just a rumor??
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: AlexJ312 on March 10, 2020, 09:09:16 AM
    Anyone hear that Goldrush is contesting their games or just a rumor??


    I heard the same...........nothing confirmed though.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on March 10, 2020, 09:18:54 AM
    Just looking at good old posts from pg1...


    It was known from the start.... even though some teams were moving down from AA, the writing was on the wall back in August!


    FIVE.... 5 of the 8 playoff teams were in Ana playing the Early Bird Tourney.
    GR(3-1-1), Kings2(3-2-0), Wave1(3-1-0), Gulls1(3-1-0), Empire (6-0-0). 
    Three of the semi round teams were all in POOL B last weekend (EHC, GR, JK2). 


    Bakersfield was the only AA team (of 3 teams) to make playoffs.  Don't know where SDIA or Bears were that weekend.


    Simply put, there were no real surprises this season IMO. 




    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on March 10, 2020, 09:32:45 AM
    Anyone hear that Goldrush is contesting their games or just a rumor??


    I heard the same...........nothing confirmed though.
    Contesting what ??


    That their lil Gretzkys are not as good as they thought.


    Those SOC parents have excuses for EVERYTHING !


    we were missing players.....dog ate our skates......should have been #1 seed.......


    If they would have been in the other bracket  every one of those teams bounce them !!
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Slapper on March 10, 2020, 09:53:20 AM
    Maybe they already had rooms booked in San Jose :-*
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on March 10, 2020, 12:07:18 PM
    Flights to NorCal are dirt cheap...  Maybe because the bay area is the outbreak monkey thanks to that cruise ship. 


    Santa Clara County reports new cases, bans large gatherings of 1,000 or more.  This is San Jose, where states are.  Still not one word from CAHA on the matter.  What an absolute JOKE!
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on March 10, 2020, 12:21:17 PM
    ****PLAYOFF POWER RANKINGS!!!!!****
    These bad-boys include NorCal teams as well. 


    1. Black Hawks (21-9-0 overall... 18-0-0 NorCal)
    2. Wave1         (25-4-2 overall...  17-0-1 SCAHA)
    3. Empire        (28-7-5 overall...  15-1-2 SCAHA)
    4. Condors      (18-7-1 overall...  14-3-1 SCAHA)
    5. C. Thunder  (12-3-2 MHR......  15-2-1 NorCal)
    6. Vaca Jets     (10-6-3 MHP.......  11-5-2 NorCal)
    7. Bears          (11-13-4 overall..  11-6-1 SCAHA)
    8. Cu.Cougars  (9-11-1 MHR....... 9-9-0  NorCal)


    Those are the remaining teams and the MHR Rankings order.  Interesting... 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BetterThanGetlaf on March 10, 2020, 12:43:48 PM
    Flights to NorCal are dirt cheap...  Maybe because the bay area is the outbreak monkey thanks to that cruise ship. 


    Santa Clara County reports new cases, bans large gatherings of 1,000 or more.  This is San Jose, where states are.  Still not one word from CAHA on the matter.  What an absolute JOKE!


    Wow, really? All those kids going into a known infection zone? Even Coachella has been postponed (ie canceled). 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: lcadad on March 10, 2020, 12:58:31 PM
    Anyone hear that Goldrush is contesting their games or just a rumor??


    I've literally never heard of a contested game result ever being overturned.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: FrozenMom18 on March 10, 2020, 01:34:57 PM
    The ban effects gatherings of 1,000 people or more at one time. I'm doubting youth hockey is bringing that many people together all at once. They could always change venues to Irvine if they are that worried 😁
    I'd hate for them to cancel after all the hard work the kids put in to get to finals as some other states have seen happen.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on March 10, 2020, 01:50:10 PM
    The ban effects gatherings of 1,000 people or more at one time. I'm doubting youth hockey is bringing that many people together all at once. They could always change venues to Irvine if they are that worried 😁
    I'd hate for them to cancel after all the hard work the kids put in to get to finals as some other states have seen happen.


    The facility is 4 sheets of ice and games going on at all times.  There is more than 1,000 people in there guaranteed.  Been there, seen it.  And they have a restaurant.   :o [size=78%] [/size]
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BetterThanGetlaf on March 10, 2020, 02:13:32 PM
    The ban effects gatherings of 1,000 people or more at one time. I'm doubting youth hockey is bringing that many people together all at once. They could always change venues to Irvine if they are that worried 😁
    I'd hate for them to cancel after all the hard work the kids put in to get to finals as some other states have seen happen.


    The facility is 4 sheets of ice and games going on at all times.  There is more than 1,000 people in there guaranteed.  Been there, seen it.  And they have a restaurant.   :o


    Yup, there will be way more than 1000 people. They are already canceling events at the venue, I think it's just a matter of time. Moving it to Irvine won't help because you have possible contamination from people up north coming down here. Would it suck? hell yes, but let's be real some kids grand parent could get it (or anyone "at risk") and pass away, is any youth sport worth that? And yes, I have heard the "It's just like the flu" argument many times already. It's going to be interesting to see how CAHA, the Clubs, the parents, all react.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Stark on March 10, 2020, 02:31:27 PM
    http://www.norcalyouthhockey.org/news-story.php?id=170
      NORCAL NEWS        NORCAL Playoffs & COVID-19 Update As you may have heard by now, the County of Santa Clara Public Health Dept issued an order this evening to cancel any mass gatherings of 1000 people of more. This will take effect on March 11th and last for three weeks. Please click HERE (https://www.sccgov.org/sites/phd/DiseaseInformation/novel-coronavirus/Pages/home.aspx) for full details.

    This obviously has a major impact on the NORCAL 10A, 12A, 14A 14B Flight II and 16A division playoffs scheduled at Solar4America Ice this upcoming Friday, March 13th, through Sunday, March 15th. The Executive Board is working through and finalizing the details of a plan to reduce the number of spectators attending playoffs. We will also be reaching out to our governing bodies, CAHA and USA Hockey, for guidance on this situation. Lastly, we continue to work with rink management to make sure we can hold playoffs and still abide by the mandate from Santa Clara County.

    The Executive Board will continue to update you as more specifics continue to unfold. We will have more information to the playoff-bound teams by Wednesday evening.

    I do ask for your patience and understanding as we work through this unique time. With everyone’s cooperation, I strongly believe that we can still give our young players the playoff experience they have worked so hard for this season. Providing them with a fun, safe and healthy hockey experience is the primary goal of everything we do. I ask that we all keep that in the back of our minds this week.

    More to come soon. Thank you.

    Matt Adams
    NORCAL President
       (posted 3/10/2020)
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: trans4761 on March 10, 2020, 03:33:16 PM
    http://www.norcalyouthhockey.org/news-story.php?id=170 (http://www.norcalyouthhockey.org/news-story.php?id=170)
      NORCAL NEWS        NORCAL Playoffs & COVID-19 Update As you may have heard by now, the County of Santa Clara Public Health Dept issued an order this evening to cancel any mass gatherings of 1000 people of more. This will take effect on March 11th and last for three weeks. Please click HERE (https://www.sccgov.org/sites/phd/DiseaseInformation/novel-coronavirus/Pages/home.aspx) for full details.

    This obviously has a major impact on the NORCAL 10A, 12A, 14A 14B Flight II and 16A division playoffs scheduled at Solar4America Ice this upcoming Friday, March 13th, through Sunday, March 15th. The Executive Board is working through and finalizing the details of a plan to reduce the number of spectators attending playoffs. We will also be reaching out to our governing bodies, CAHA and USA Hockey, for guidance on this situation. Lastly, we continue to work with rink management to make sure we can hold playoffs and still abide by the mandate from Santa Clara County.

    The Executive Board will continue to update you as more specifics continue to unfold. We will have more information to the playoff-bound teams by Wednesday evening.

    I do ask for your patience and understanding as we work through this unique time. With everyone’s cooperation, I strongly believe that we can still give our young players the playoff experience they have worked so hard for this season. Providing them with a fun, safe and healthy hockey experience is the primary goal of everything we do. I ask that we all keep that in the back of our minds this week.

    More to come soon. Thank you.

    Matt Adams
    NORCAL President
       (posted 3/10/2020)
    Can hear the Cons ( incorrect spelling?) solution.....Vacaville......"Its in a different county.  No problem."
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BladesofSteel66 on March 10, 2020, 08:31:36 PM
    We need to rattle some cages... we cant leave this decision up to NORCAL!!!!!
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Goaliedad21 on March 11, 2020, 12:27:10 PM
    Bring the state finals down here
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: HockeyDad73 on March 11, 2020, 12:33:53 PM
    Bring the state finals down here


    This is CAHA, I doubt they could handle the logistical changes that would be necessary.  I’m sure they’ll come up with a ticketed solution.  Like 3 tickets per player/coach or something along those lines.  They’ll probably charge the kids and their families triple the normal rate for hotel stays to cover their loses.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: 2 Cups in LA on March 11, 2020, 01:28:13 PM
    Dr. Trump has COVID-19 under control.   NOCAL should let them play!
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Stark on March 12, 2020, 12:38:34 AM
     SCAHA CORONA VIRUS MESSAGE Corona virus and semi finals  and finals
    Published On : Mar 12 2020 03:53 AM Hello Hockey Families[/size]As you may know, in late December the first case of Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) was reported in Wuhan, China.  Since that time, many health organizations around the world have been following the virus closely, by January 21 the first case on US soil was confirmed. As with any newly emerging infectious disease, knowledge evolves with time and recommendations are changing rapidly. We are closely monitoring information from public health officials and will continue to follow their prevention guidelines to help keep everyone in our hockey community stay informed. This weekend is our final weekend for hockey in Scaha -  We are aware that in Northern California the area's are advising to keep and public gathering to under 1000 people.  From a semi final perspective, we have 20 games spread across  4 facilities  - so the gatherings at each facility on Saturday will certainly be reasonable  and will reflect a typical SCAHA weekend in general.For Sunday  (Championship Day), We will be hosting 10 games total - playing games on both sheets.  As long as families do not linger after their championship game, we will be good with that 1,000 person guideline. (20 team members x 8 teams in the building at any one time with approx 3-4 family members per player is approx 800 people).We ask our families to please me mindful of this guideline, and keep your attendance to your immediate family only.  Norcal, due to their county's requirements - are handing out wristbands and are limiting attendance to just two people per player.  We currently do not have such a requirement from the county.  The King's facility supports live barn on the internet - so the game is available to watch live remotely for extended family and friends. (great news).  We will also be changing our post game handshakes -  We will  limit them to a single line of fist bumps after the game with the gloves remaining on the hands.  We will forgo the extended handshakes when awarding the hardware after the game.While at the facility:    Please use the friendly elbow bump or fist bump to say hello.    Wash your hands frequently with warm, soapy water for at least 20 seconds.    Cough and sneeze etiquette is encouraged    Clean frequently touched surfaces.    Please do not linger.  After your game, please head on out and enjoy the rest of the afternoon.We will stay informed and will let everyone know if events change in this dynamic situation. If you would like more information on the Coronavirus, please refer to: https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019 (https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019) Kind regards,SCAHA

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    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Beer Leaguer on March 12, 2020, 07:28:42 AM
    USA hockey canceled Nationals
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Stark on March 12, 2020, 09:12:33 AM
    CURRENT STATUS: GAME ON
     Update as of March 11th, 2020 @ 6:30pm
     
    Limit of 2 spectators per player for the Playoff games this weekend. There will be a registration table and wrist bands….
    Dates: March 13-15th
     Location: Solar for America Ice, 500 S 10th St, San Jose, CA 95112 (https://goo.gl/maps/uz8n6tqYPyd4MZSAA)
     If you won’t be at the games you can watch it via LiveBarn (https://www.livebarn.com/). Use the following promo code for a 10% discount: San Jose: solr-8a8c
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: HockeyDad73 on March 12, 2020, 09:15:57 AM
    CURRENT STATUS: GAME ON
     Update as of March 11th, 2020 @ 6:30pm
     
    Limit of 2 spectators per player for the Playoff games this weekend. There will be a registration table and wrist bands….
    Dates: March 13-15th
     Location: Solar for America Ice, 500 S 10th St, San Jose, CA 95112 (https://goo.gl/maps/uz8n6tqYPyd4MZSAA)
     If you won’t be at the games you can watch it via LiveBarn (https://www.livebarn.com/). Use the following promo code for a 10% discount: San Jose: solr-8a8c


    10%?  So generous. 
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BetterThanGetlaf on March 12, 2020, 09:38:13 AM
    CURRENT STATUS: GAME ON
     Update as of March 11th, 2020 @ 6:30pm
     
    Limit of 2 spectators per player for the Playoff games this weekend. There will be a registration table and wrist bands….
    Dates: March 13-15th
     Location: Solar for America Ice, 500 S 10th St, San Jose, CA 95112 (https://goo.gl/maps/uz8n6tqYPyd4MZSAA)
     If you won’t be at the games you can watch it via LiveBarn (https://www.livebarn.com/). Use the following promo code for a 10% discount: San Jose: solr-8a8c


    10%?  So generous.


    Seriously.


    Funny thing is, SCAHA and CAHA will NOT have the backing of USA hockey if anything goes wrong. USA Hockey has washed its hands of anything "sanctioned". It is no longer their responsibility, you're on your own. I think it's funny the organizer thinks "if it's under 1000 people, everyone will be safe". Put me in a room with 10,000 healthy people vs. a room of 10 with 1 infected. That 1000 number is totally random.


     Is it too late to get into professional video gaming?
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Stark on March 12, 2020, 12:29:07 PM
    Thomas Hancock, President, California Amateur Hockey Association CAHA State Events Status – COVID-19March 12, 2020
    To:    All CAHA Post Season ParticipantsRe:    CAHA State Events Dear CAHA Participant Members,

    This communication is being sent to advise that at this time Tier 2 State Championships are proceeding as scheduled.

    As everyone must be aware, yesterday Governor Newsom announced the updated recommendations by California Department of Public Health that large gatherings of 250 or more attendees be canceled or rescheduled, the precise language that would apply to our events is cited as follows (the actual document from CDPH can be found here); “Large gatherings that include 250 people or more should be postponed or canceled”“• A “gathering” is any event or convening that brings together people in a single room or single space at the same time, such as an auditorium, stadium, arena, large conference room, meeting hall, cafeteria, or any other indoor or outdoor space.”Although for our Tier 2 Event this coming weekend we do not expect to be near that 250 person limit at any given time, CAHA nonetheless recommends that all State Championship bound teams follow the following event protocols and CDPH/CDC recommendations;
    1) Teams are not to arrive at the event earlier that 1 hour prior to their scheduled game time

    2) Teams are to leave the event not later than 30 minutes at the conclusion of each game played
    3) Spectators should not enter the event earlier than 30 minutes prior to their player’s scheduled game time

    4) People that are considered to be in a CDC defined "higher risk" demographic should voluntarily stay home

    5) Attendees should diligently follow CDC’s recommendations for "protecting themselves"

    With respect to CAHA’s upcoming Select Camp and A/BB/B and High School Division 1B/2B State Championships, at this time CAHA is still planning on proceeding with these events as well, but as the COVID-19 situation is very fluid, that decision may change depending on any new updates or mandates by California Department of Public Health.

    Sincerely,Thomas Hancock PresidentCc:D. Bigelow, SCAHAM. Adams, NORCALD. Bigelow, SCAHAM. Blanchart, ADHSHLM. Petrovich, LAKHSHLS. Galaviz, SHSHLG. Leibl, CAHAMember Participants
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    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: ohnonotagain on March 12, 2020, 04:40:50 PM

    This communication is being sent to advise that at this time Tier 2 State Championships are proceeding as scheduled.



    We have a global pandemic, the CDC, NIH, and state of Cal are trying to reduce the spread of COVID-19, countless events are being cancelled across the country including Natys, and this is considered a responsible decision by CAHA.  WTF?



    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Stark on March 12, 2020, 05:59:12 PM
    Current Status: Playoffs Postponed
     Update as of March 12th, 2020 @ 5:00pm

    NorCal voted to postpone playoff games this weekend due to concerns regarding COVID-19.  They will reconvene March 31st to decide when or if the games can be rescheduled —  we will keep you up to date. All clubs were and will be represented during the decision making.
    Individuals teams will be notified through TeamSnap if any new ice time or practices are made available for them.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BetterThanGetlaf on March 12, 2020, 06:01:24 PM

    This communication is being sent to advise that at this time Tier 2 State Championships are proceeding as scheduled.



    We have a global pandemic, the CDC, NIH, and state of Cal are trying to reduce the spread of COVID-19, countless events are being cancelled across the country including Natys, and this is considered a responsible decision by CAHA.  WTF?


    Calm down its not like they are canceling the March Madness or something. Also don't worry I believe there will only be 249 people there so everyone is safe. I mean each sheet of ice is it's own arena right?

    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Stark on March 12, 2020, 06:02:11 PM
    Tier 2 State Championships cancelled.
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Stark on March 12, 2020, 07:55:05 PM
    Updated: 3/12/2020 Sharks Ice Community,
     
    As we continue to monitor the developing situation with the COVID-19 virus, the Sharks Ice Network of public skating facilities (Solar4America Ice in San Jose and Fremont and the Oakland Ice Center) will temporarily close operations to the general public for three days beginning Friday March 13th thru Sunday March 15th.   We will reopen on Monday March 16th for normal programing.  During this pause, we will use the opportunity to enhance our cleaning practices and to assess upcoming events and programming to determine the best schedule that will comply with all  governmental mandates for the communities safety.
     
    The Norcal “A” Championships that were scheduled to be played at Solar4America Ice at San Jose have been postponed to a later date.
     
    While information from the local, state and federal government is changing rapidly, please continue to follow our social channels and website for updated information.   We thank all of our guests for their patience and understanding during this time.
     
    Information about reschedule or other compensatory measures for canceled programs will be released shortly.
     
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Hackey11 on March 13, 2020, 07:00:23 AM
    Playoffs have been cancelled, not postponed!  Sign the petition to have SCAHA reconsider postponement.   http://chng.it/kFSBVFtN6B
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: BetterThanGetlaf on March 13, 2020, 10:25:24 AM
    I'm just realizing everything for spring is going to get affected. This bs is not going away in a month, anyone get a notice yet of selects being canceled? Sticktimes? Lessons? I know parents that are canceling thing but I was wondering if the programs are canceling too.  Sadly I think the coaches are going to go through a tough few months.




    Edit: The Rinks are CLOSED
    Title: Re: Pee Wee A 19-20
    Post by: Stark on March 14, 2020, 01:03:30 AM
    Remaining CAHA State Events Status Mar 13, 2020  9:59 PM March 13, 2020

     To: All CAHA Members

     Re: Remaining 2019-2020 CAHA State Events Cancellation

     Dear Participant Members,

     Effective immediately by unanimous vote, CAHA has cancelled all remaining CAHA Post Season events. This includes CAHA Select Camp scheduled for March 20-22, 2020, in Lakewood, and Youth A/BB/B and High School 1B/2B State Championships scheduled for March 27-29, 2020 in San Jose.

     This decision was made after careful deliberation and in the primary interest of protecting the health and safety of our member clubs, spectators, and most importantly, our athletes.

     While we understand this decision is disappointing, we strongly believe that the opportunity to compete in these events does not outweigh our obligation to place the health and safety of our membership above all else. The impact of COVID-19 has created many unexpected challenges as our season draws to an end, and we want to thank everyone involved for their flexibility, patience, and commitment in providing our athletes a great experience despite this unique situation.

     Lastly, we want to recognize the hard work and commitment our athletes/teams have made to reach their respective League Playoffs/Championships that would have qualified them to advance to CAHA State Championships, and salute them for the accomplishment.

     Sincerely,

     Thomas Hancock
    President