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Other Topics => SCAHA, Norcal and CAHA Discussions => Topic started by: BladesofSteel66 on March 05, 2020, 11:32:21 AM
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CA is in a state of emergency. Both LA and Bay Area have been compromised because of travelers and cruise ships.
THIS IS REAL!!!
There are hundreds/thousands of families preparing to TRAVEL all over the state of CALIFORNIA for playoffs and championships. Our state and the LOCATIONS FOR THESE TOURNAMENTS (LA and San Jose) are legitimately unsafe currently.
What are you going to do?!?!? What is your Plan of action/precautions!?!?!
-Signed by ANY RATIONAL PERSON WHO IS TYPICALLY NOT A MORON
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Do any of the amateur hockey websites (scaha, caha, norcal) have any posts or updates SOMEWHERE on their sites??? ANYTHING providing information on this issue? Or were they asleep at the wheel like always.
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$100 says you bought out Costco's supply of toilet paper this weekend.
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$100 says you bought out Costco's supply of toilet paper this weekend.
First of all... I go to Sam's Club, so Effff Costco. Also, I pick my nose regularly due to allergies, so I ordered the 10 pack boxes of lotion added Kleenex from amazon. Again, for nose blowing only.
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Well...
Santa Clara County reports new cases, bans large gatherings...
... and it will only be worse by states. So, we breakin-the-law or what?
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http://www.norcalyouthhockey.org/news-story.php?id=170
NORCAL NEWS NORCAL Playoffs & COVID-19 Update As you may have heard by now, the County of Santa Clara Public Health Dept issued an order this evening to cancel any mass gatherings of 1000 people of more. This will take effect on March 11th and last for three weeks. Please click HERE (https://www.sccgov.org/sites/phd/DiseaseInformation/novel-coronavirus/Pages/home.aspx) for full details.
This obviously has a major impact on the NORCAL 10A, 12A, 14A 14B Flight II and 16A division playoffs scheduled at Solar4America Ice this upcoming Friday, March 13th, through Sunday, March 15th. The Executive Board is working through and finalizing the details of a plan to reduce the number of spectators attending playoffs. We will also be reaching out to our governing bodies, CAHA and USA Hockey, for guidance on this situation. Lastly, we continue to work with rink management to make sure we can hold playoffs and still abide by the mandate from Santa Clara County.
The Executive Board will continue to update you as more specifics continue to unfold. We will have more information to the playoff-bound teams by Wednesday evening.
I do ask for your patience and understanding as we work through this unique time. With everyone’s cooperation, I strongly believe that we can still give our young players the playoff experience they have worked so hard for this season. Providing them with a fun, safe and healthy hockey experience is the primary goal of everything we do. I ask that we all keep that in the back of our minds this week.
More to come soon. Thank you.
Matt Adams
NORCAL President
(posted 3/10/2020)
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SCAHA CORONA VIRUS MESSAGE Corona virus and semi finals and finals
Published On : Mar 12 2020 03:53 AM Hello Hockey Families[/size]As you may know, in late December the first case of Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) was reported in Wuhan, China. Since that time, many health organizations around the world have been following the virus closely, by January 21 the first case on US soil was confirmed. As with any newly emerging infectious disease, knowledge evolves with time and recommendations are changing rapidly. We are closely monitoring information from public health officials and will continue to follow their prevention guidelines to help keep everyone in our hockey community stay informed. This weekend is our final weekend for hockey in Scaha - We are aware that in Northern California the area's are advising to keep and public gathering to under 1000 people. From a semi final perspective, we have 20 games spread across 4 facilities - so the gatherings at each facility on Saturday will certainly be reasonable and will reflect a typical SCAHA weekend in general.For Sunday (Championship Day), We will be hosting 10 games total - playing games on both sheets. As long as families do not linger after their championship game, we will be good with that 1,000 person guideline. (20 team members x 8 teams in the building at any one time with approx 3-4 family members per player is approx 800 people).We ask our families to please me mindful of this guideline, and keep your attendance to your immediate family only. Norcal, due to their county's requirements - are handing out wristbands and are limiting attendance to just two people per player. We currently do not have such a requirement from the county. The King's facility supports live barn on the internet - so the game is available to watch live remotely for extended family and friends. (great news). We will also be changing our post game handshakes - We will limit them to a single line of fist bumps after the game with the gloves remaining on the hands. We will forgo the extended handshakes when awarding the hardware after the game.While at the facility: Please use the friendly elbow bump or fist bump to say hello. Wash your hands frequently with warm, soapy water for at least 20 seconds. Cough and sneeze etiquette is encouraged Clean frequently touched surfaces. Please do not linger. After your game, please head on out and enjoy the rest of the afternoon.We will stay informed and will let everyone know if events change in this dynamic situation. If you would like more information on the Coronavirus, please refer to: https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019 (https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019) Kind regards,SCAHA
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SCAHA CORONA VIRUS MESSAGE Corona virus and semi finals and finals
Published On : Mar 12 2020 03:53 AM Hello Hockey FamiliesAs you may know, in late December the first case of Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) was reported in Wuhan, China. Since that time, many health organizations around the world have been following the virus closely, by January 21 the first case on US soil was confirmed. As with any newly emerging infectious disease, knowledge evolves with time and recommendations are changing rapidly. We are closely monitoring information from public health officials and will continue to follow their prevention guidelines to help keep everyone in our hockey community stay informed. This weekend is our final weekend for hockey in Scaha - We are aware that in Northern California the area's are advising to keep and public gathering to under 1000 people. From a semi final perspective, we have 20 games spread across 4 facilities - so the gatherings at each facility on Saturday will certainly be reasonable and will reflect a typical SCAHA weekend in general.For Sunday (Championship Day), We will be hosting 10 games total - playing games on both sheets. As long as families do not linger after their championship game, we will be good with that 1,000 person guideline. (20 team members x 8 teams in the building at any one time with approx 3-4 family members per player is approx 800 people).We ask our families to please me mindful of this guideline, and keep your attendance to your immediate family only. Norcal, due to their county's requirements - are handing out wristbands and are limiting attendance to just two people per player. We currently do not have such a requirement from the county. The King's facility supports live barn on the internet - so the game is available to watch live remotely for extended family and friends. (great news). We will also be changing our post game handshakes - We will limit them to a single line of fist bumps after the game with the gloves remaining on the hands. We will forgo the extended handshakes when awarding the hardware after the game.While at the facility: Please use the friendly elbow bump or fist bump to say hello. Wash your hands frequently with warm, soapy water for at least 20 seconds. Cough and sneeze etiquette is encouraged Clean frequently touched surfaces. Please do not linger. After your game, please head on out and enjoy the rest of the afternoon.We will stay informed and will let everyone know if events change in this dynamic situation. If you would like more information on the Coronavirus, please refer to: https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019 (https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019) Kind regards,SCAHA
"We will also be changing our post game handshakes - We will limit them to a single line of fist bumps after the game with the gloves remaining on the hands."
After they play a game together hitting, sweating, spiting, etc.. on each other yes, the hand shake is going to be the problem... Wow :o
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CURRENT STATUS: GAME ON
Update as of March 11th, 2020 @ 6:30pm
Limit of 2 spectators per player for the Playoff games this weekend. There will be a registration table and wrist bands….
Dates: March 13-15th
Location: Solar for America Ice, 500 S 10th St, San Jose, CA 95112 (https://goo.gl/maps/uz8n6tqYPyd4MZSAA)
If you won’t be at the games you can watch it via LiveBarn (https://www.livebarn.com/). Use the following promo code for a 10% discount: San Jose: solr-8a8c
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CURRENT STATUS: GAME ON
Update as of March 11th, 2020 @ 6:30pm
Limit of 2 spectators per player for the Playoff games this weekend. There will be a registration table and wrist bands….
Dates: March 13-15th
Location: Solar for America Ice, 500 S 10th St, San Jose, CA 95112 (https://goo.gl/maps/uz8n6tqYPyd4MZSAA)
If you won’t be at the games you can watch it via LiveBarn (https://www.livebarn.com/). Use the following promo code for a 10% discount: San Jose: solr-8a8c
AHahaha. I am thinking that they meant to do away with the tripple handshake process where all kids shake hands of other team three times, along with officials and awards givers. Hopefully teams stopped practicing this week since its close quarters on ice with their entire team - sweating , etc.
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I heard SCAHA had an emergency meeting tonight at 7. Anyone hear the outcome?
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The NORCAL Youth Hockey League is postponing its playoffs in light of the ongoing developments with the COVID-19 virus pandemic. The NORCAL Board convened an emergency meeting this afternoon to discuss an appropriate course of action. The decision to postpone was made in the best interest of our youth hockey players, our families and the communities we live in.Current Status: Playoffs Postponed
Update as of March 12th, 2020 @ 5:00pm
NorCal voted to postpone playoff games this weekend due to concerns regarding COVID-19. They will reconvene March 31st to decide when or if the games can be rescheduled — we will keep you up to date. All clubs were and will be represented during the decision making.
Individuals teams will be notified through TeamSnap if any new ice time or practices are made available for them.Updated: 3/12/2020 Sharks Ice Community,
As we continue to monitor the developing situation with the COVID-19 virus, the Sharks Ice Network of public skating facilities (Solar4America Ice in San Jose and Fremont and the Oakland Ice Center) will temporarily close operations to the general public for three days beginning Friday March 13th thru Sunday March 15th. We will reopen on Monday March 16th for normal programing. During this pause, we will use the opportunity to enhance our cleaning practices and to assess upcoming events and programming to determine the best schedule that will comply with all governmental mandates for the communities safety.
The Norcal “A†Championships that were scheduled to be played at Solar4America Ice at San Jose have been postponed to a later date.
While information from the local, state and federal government is changing rapidly, please continue to follow our social channels and website for updated information. We thank all of our guests for their patience and understanding during this time.
Information about reschedule or other compensatory measures for canceled programs will be released shortly.
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SCAHA just cancelled the playoffs.
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March 12, 2020
Message from the SCAHA Board:
To all Hockey Families,
SCAHA has, this evening, after careful consideration, unanimously decided to call a halt to the Semi Final and Championship Series play this coming weekend. We have cancelled the remaining balance of post season play for all A/BB/B levels of Youth Hockey this coming Mar 14 - Mar 15.
After a risk assessment regarding preventative measures to manage the spread of COVID-19, we determined that there is only one guaranteed way to help stop the spread and that is to not host the remaining weekend of play. We considered the options of splitting the event across several facilities and/or relegating spectators to a mere few people however, in light of the WHO recommendation for social distancing we determined that neither of those options met the WHO recommendation.
When we look at it through this lens, our only way to guarantee not contributing to the spread is to halt play and cancel the remainder of the playoffs here in SCAHA. Nothing we do is worth the risk of perpetuating the spread of the virus.
Canceling the remainder of post season play is, clearly, the right thing to do and in doing so we are acting as responsible civic leaders. We have no doubt that everyone in our hockey community will agree and support this decision.
Finally, we did discuss postponing for two weeks vs. cancelling, but we, as a Board, do not want to mislead anyone with hopes that restrictions may be lifted in time to salvage remaining games. The season is complete as of April 1 which leaves a little over 2 weeks - rescheduling is clearly not feasible.
We will be notifying the impacted facilities and organizations to make sure we wind things down correctly.
Good luck to all, stay safe, and see you all at the rink for next season. Sincerely,
The Entire SCAHA Board
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*pats self on back. ;)
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pats BladesofSteel on back.. 8) . Hockey is indeed a contact sport. In a game devoid of any spectators... Coach or Player A picks up virus from bench, say he drops his glove or grease pen... (say said virus is from last nights adult league - say adult beer drinker sneezed on the bench after a shift, he feels sick but came non the less because its his only chance to get out and get some exercise. - virus sits on bench in a nice cold damp spot - very happy for days and waiting for someone to touch it). Coach or Player A transfers to other people (maybe on other team) during play - say Player B.
Player A or coach goes home, infects a high risk person in family - say at a small get together < 50 people. That high risk person(s) health is now in jeopardy - even though everyone in that hockey game followed the guidelines - EXCEPT social distancing requirement by the teams themselves. The High Risk person goes to ER - and has to wait because of the many other similar events unfolding across the community. We begin to exceed our ability to treat and handle cases. This is happening because people believe that their event is more important than what the CDC and WHO and all governments and municipalities are recommending. LA proper has put in place a ban of all gatherings > 50 people for public government events. Everyone needs to do their part to help slow down the spread so it will be manageable,
Player B lives 90 miles away. does the same - a similar story unfolds. When does it end? We must stop looking for other people to solve this. Because it will take everyone's action and short term sacrifice on events like these to help slow this down.
Both people have now inadvertently impacted others with unintended consequence. High Risk people have a mortality rate > 10% btw.
Most people would never willingly fly in a plane that has a 1/10 chance of going down. Non the less, we would be potentially forcing the elderly and immune compromised peopled into the very scenario.
There are documented reasons why sports are being cancelled, its not just the spectators and workers at risk. It is also player interaction. Its physically impossible to keep separation during a sporting event.
Granted, the odds of the above happening are low - but NOT that low. Ask yourself how an isolated nursing home in Seattle has now over 20 deaths? I am sure no one there left the building.
I do not know of anyone who wishes to land on the wrong side of that scenario - for the sake of a recreational sport. I believe little league has cancelled all practices for a month because of this. There is no way to play a sport and maintain a distance of 6 feet, etc.
I applaud Blades for ringing the bell. Well done.
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We will all be exposed (if we have not already been) no matter what you do, it is inevitable. There is no way to contain a virus.
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Very true. The concept adopted by ALL health organizations is to slow it down so we do not hit the critical point of exhausting care facilities. Meaning people do not die because they cannot get a respirator or drugs or a hospital bed.
There is a well known curve (spike vs hill) floating around.
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It is not about containing the virus; it is about reducing the spread which is a hugely important factor. Recognizing it will spread, preparing for the spread, and putting systems and procedures in place is what is most important.
Not-so-fun-fact: it will be dormant all summer and bounce back 10-20 times worse next winter. We need to do everything we can now to reduce that projection.
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Remaining CAHA State Events Status Mar 13, 2020 9:59 PM March 13, 2020
To: All CAHA Members
Re: Remaining 2019-2020 CAHA State Events Cancellation
Dear Participant Members,
Effective immediately by unanimous vote, CAHA has cancelled all remaining CAHA Post Season events. This includes CAHA Select Camp scheduled for March 20-22, 2020, in Lakewood, and Youth A/BB/B and High School 1B/2B State Championships scheduled for March 27-29, 2020 in San Jose.
This decision was made after careful deliberation and in the primary interest of protecting the health and safety of our member clubs, spectators, and most importantly, our athletes.
While we understand this decision is disappointing, we strongly believe that the opportunity to compete in these events does not outweigh our obligation to place the health and safety of our membership above all else. The impact of COVID-19 has created many unexpected challenges as our season draws to an end, and we want to thank everyone involved for their flexibility, patience, and commitment in providing our athletes a great experience despite this unique situation.
Lastly, we want to recognize the hard work and commitment our athletes/teams have made to reach their respective League Playoffs/Championships that would have qualified them to advance to CAHA State Championships, and salute them for the accomplishment.
Sincerely,
Thomas Hancock
President
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It is not about containing the virus; it is about reducing the spread which is a hugely important factor. Recognizing it will spread, preparing for the spread, and putting systems and procedures in place is what is most important.
Not-so-fun-fact: it will be dormant all summer and bounce back 10-20 times worse next winter. We need to do everything we can now to reduce that projection.
So with a potential bounce back next winter, which will be the heart of the season, are many people going to skip this coming off-season of travel and just play in a local in-house program(? Or are we going to hope in this devastated economy that rinks and clubs(hopefully not like Valencia) will be refunding participants? Not sure how some of the smaller clubs will survive this.
I'm curious how the bounce back will be in the coming weeks or months. The Rinks are scheduled for 6/1, Not sure about LA, I see one rink scheduled to open on 5/1.
Who's standing outside the rink on 5/1 20 minutes before the rink opens in anticipation and who's nervous about showing up to a tryout in late June? Or finally, who's just enjoying seeing their 13 year old, full time hockey player, trying to ride a bike looking awkward as hell because they never had time to learn or ride one prior to all of this?
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Which rink is opening on 5/1?
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I do not know for sure - but looks like youth hockey should fall into stage 3 - which is months away according to the governor. So it might not be any hockey until fall or later. Unless, somehow it might be considered stage 2 (or they will rearrange things) and then it's week away.
Copying his tweet did not work perfectly - but you can find it on your own...
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[size=inherit]STAGE 3: Higher Risk Workplaces Gradually re-opening some higher risk environments with adaptations and limits on size of gatherings. This will include: -Personal care (hair salons, nail salons, gyms) -Movie theaters -Sports without live audiences -In-person religious services[/size]
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CAHA is making a huge mistake.
They 1,000% do NOT have a plan for the Oct-Jan flu season coming. The season will halt AGAIN for 2-3 months and CAHA has no plan.
Facts. Tryouts re pushed to no sooner than Aug 22. Not much room for a season. It is DOOMED...
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Blades just came out of hibernation with his doom and gloom. Our construction sites have not stopped for 1 day since this all went down and still not one case, with hundreds of workers on site daily. We all either had it already, or are asymptomatic. Lets get back to life, and sequester the weak or vulnerable.
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CAHA is making a huge mistake.
They 1,000% do NOT have a plan for the Oct-Jan flu season coming. The season will halt AGAIN for 2-3 months and CAHA has no plan.
Facts. Tryouts re pushed to no sooner than Aug 22. Not much room for a season. It is DOOMED...
You should pull your kid out of hockey so you are not exposed. You are obviously living in fear!
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Nothing to be afraid of here folks, just give your kids their daily dose of hydroxychloroquine and this virus will miraculously go away when weather warms up. It's a hoax to begin with, remember? Don't get tested either since it will only show more covid19 cases and that's just simply not acceptable. Forget the FDA, CDC, WHO and those fancy doctors and scientists, they don't know sh*t anyhow. No need for avoiding crowds, face masks and any preventive measures that will limit your freedom. The only things that's essential is our freedom!!! We are Americans, how dare they lock us down!
Hard truth people, only the strong should survive.
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Yep,
That is exactly the vibe I am hearing from some locals (and you may take educational guess what party they support)
"Obese, smoking, diabetes people made their choice sometime ago - now it's their turn to face the consequences. We are exercising, fit, go to the beach - we won't die".
And for the record - I am not local and do not belong to any parties. We as a family are not hiding or especially fearful but we are not full blown supporters of - let's pretend nothing has happened either.
Will be interesting to see what they will do with youth hockey and hopefully they will listen to professionals on that
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I urge you to have respect for both sides. It’s something we can learn from each other. The other side is not filled with senseless idiots. These are your friends at the rink. They might have different perspectives, but who the heck wants to talk to someone just like themselves?
That might be the real epidemic of this generation.
If this post offends you, please make sure you post a long list of angry invectives in your reply. 😄
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Well, it looks like we can take a break for about a month until we hear from SCAHA/CAHA about their guess as to how to proceed with tryouts and next fall. I for one am hoping they keep things "drive-able local", as indoor sports (let alone cold and damp ones) are high contagion risk activities to begin with. Fortunately we historically have had enough teams to accomplish this.
Travel: As the greatest concentration of infections was and is clearly in the northeast and mid-west, interest in travel to those hockey hotbeds will remain zero for many. Really, any amount of airline travel will be quite complicated (few schedule options, more health checks, etc.). How many of us are not doing airline travel this Summer during the time which this virus will be seasonally recedent? Going further, even 7 hour long bus rides between Norcal and Socal will increase the possibility of infection dramatically. So, the liabilities of "team contagion" aside, who would be willing to commit to a costly 7 month season where you not only have a good chance of another schedule stoppage but further don't have opt out control on the required travel? Unfortunately, for now, this is the temporary real situation. And for those thinking of going out of state (again), same is true there.
In times of uncertainty like this pandemic, sometimes the payoff is just not worth the risk. We have managed to successfully work and school from home. A single season of local only games will be just fine as well and has the added benefit of financial support for the local rinks budgets. The game is great no matter where you play it.
(PS: Please feel free to face wash, as I will then know you read this.)
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Actually gave you a "tap"
Your post - is exactly how we feel and it's totally fine until the times when more is known.
And I can see arguments for both sides - full opening/shelter-in-place.
The only thing I have to say to people who are for complete reopening - that's totally fine as long as if that happens to you - you commit not to utilize medical system, leave it for the ones who listened to guidelines. It'll be only fair. You made your choice in opposition what authorities said driven by medical experts advice - face the consequences then on your own.
And I truly prefer those "free" people laughing at the others at the end of it - rather than standing on their graves/death beds and saying "why you did not believe it?.."
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Well, it looks like we can take a break for about a month until we hear from SCAHA/CAHA about their guess as to how to proceed with tryouts and next fall. I for one am hoping they keep things "drive-able local", as indoor sports (let alone cold and damp ones) are high contagion risk activities to begin with. Fortunately we historically have had enough teams to accomplish this.
Travel: As the greatest concentration of infections was and is clearly in the northeast and mid-west, interest in travel to those hockey hotbeds will remain zero for many. Really, any amount of airline travel will be quite complicated (few schedule options, more health checks, etc.). How many of us are not doing airline travel this Summer during the time which this virus will be seasonally recedent? Going further, even 7 hour long bus rides between Norcal and Socal will increase the possibility of infection dramatically. So, the liabilities of "team contagion" aside, who would be willing to commit to a costly 7 month season where you not only have a good chance of another schedule stoppage but further don't have opt out control on the required travel? Unfortunately, for now, this is the temporary real situation. And for those thinking of going out of state (again), same is true there.
In times of uncertainty like this pandemic, sometimes the payoff is just not worth the risk. We have managed to successfully work and school from home. A single season of local only games will be just fine as well and has the added benefit of financial support for the local rinks budgets. The game is great no matter where you play it.
(PS: Please feel free to face wash, as I will then know you read this.)
This is post is worth quoting so that it does not get lost in the political back and forth. Nowhearthis expresses many of my concerns about tier or even high school hockey this season.
I would be interested in the views of other hockey parents about how they are assessing the risk especially the risks related to tier hockey and the travel. I wonder if some of the programs and teams may gear back their travel this year?
For tier 1, it might be boring to play the same teams repeatedly but maybe that makes sense at least until 2021 and late in the season if things improve related to the virus.
Will players be required to be tested? How often? Will they be required to wear face masks and is that even feasible in an aerobic sport like hockey? Will arenas mandate masks and social distancing and is the later even feasible? How will locker rooms be cleaned and how often?
What questions should CAHA and SCAHA be considering when making decisions?
Have any clubs tried to assess parent concerns and input? Which clubs and how?
Politics should have little relevance to these questions but maybe not.
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Whelp,
The only thing I am scared of is paying for a season that gets cut short or cancelled again because CAHA has no plan. I got the MACHO MAN, Jesse the anti-BODY Ventura immune system.
CA is a state that will shut EVERYTHING down at the drop of a sneeze as soon as flu season is back. YOU ARE A FOOL TO THINK OTHERWISE! It has NOTHING to do with how confident you are; it has everything to do with the state.
My kids will be on the ice this weekend. Enjoy it while you can....
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In parts of the east coast, tier 1 teams will be signing players the first week of June. Since the rinks are not publically open, these are being done via reputation and team membership, and probably some private skates. One thing the Hockey association has stipulated is an economic hardship due to COVID-19 way of getting out of the contract. Not exactly what you are talking about, but I wonder if clubs will want to have agreements that release them from liability to pay for ice that they can not use due to another Government mandated closure.
I actually don't think it is all that likely to happen, but this would be a way to mitigate the very real concern that this year is going to be a watered down version of regular hockey.
I wish I had to option to get my kid on the ice this weekend. :)