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Midget Hockey / Re: 16U AA
« Last post by ohnonotagain on March 30, 2021, 09:27:33 PM »
Ok, I'll start


IMO,....


SAINTS
WW
BEARS
JR DUCKS
ICE DOGS (?)


Very close... http://www.caha.com/state_playoffs/playoffschedule.pl?d=15


Good luck to all the teams.  Bears the favorites?
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Club Hosted Clinics, Camps, & Skates / Rogers Edge Hockey Camp
« Last post by SaintsHockey on March 27, 2021, 11:22:09 PM »

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Midget Hockey / 2021 Varsity High School Hockey State Championships
« Last post by AllEyesOnYou on March 27, 2021, 07:49:25 PM »
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Midget Hockey / Re: Lots and lots of AAA teams next year
« Last post by lcadad on March 26, 2021, 08:34:35 PM »
The Jr Reign have 22 players on their roster.
Just not enough kids.


It was a weird year, and the Reign were having to bounce around to various rinks.  It seems that throughout the year it was more like a tournament team with families picking and choosing which tournaments to attend, and which practices.  I'm sure I don't have to tell you that it was not a year to really judge any program by.


Hockey clubs are like the field of dreams.  "Build it and they will come."  Some teams will be also rans and non-contenders next year without a doubt, but that is hockey pretty much everywhere.  Over time, having more AAA will allow AA to actually be AA, rather than AA with quasi AAA teams at the very top, blowing the doors off all the actual AA teams. 


Families committed to playing AAA will have a few more options, at least in Socal.  All AAA programs will have to earn their clients by providing a quality program.   There will be more CAHA games for AAA.   


It took a long time for this to happen, but the people with kids at mite/squirt and peewee will benefit from this increase in access in years to come, and perhaps less people will feel compelled to send their teenagers across the country to play hockey.
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Midget Hockey / Re: Lots and lots of AAA teams next year
« Last post by lcadad on March 26, 2021, 08:20:47 PM »
Just watched a kid from the not nationally competitive California Titans AAA program score a goal against Wisconsin in the NCAA tournament.
;D
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Midget Hockey / Re: Lots and lots of AAA teams next year
« Last post by notTHATdad on March 26, 2021, 03:34:40 PM »

The Jr Reign have 22 players on their roster.


Does ANYONE seriously think that's a good idea? How much ice time are they getting?


They have 11 05's and 11 04's. Not enough for either birth year level.


Just not enough kids.
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Midget Hockey / Re: Lots and lots of AAA teams next year
« Last post by #4BobbyOrr on March 26, 2021, 11:29:32 AM »
Just watched a kid from the not nationally competitive California Titans AAA program score a goal against Wisconsin in the NCAA tournament.
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Midget Hockey / Re: Lots and lots of AAA teams next year
« Last post by lcadad on March 25, 2021, 09:36:37 PM »
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On the stats, there are interesting aspects. You actually pay a huge price in the myhockeyrankings for playing bad teams because there is a goal limit. For instance, The 04 Sharks played the Reign twice, and beat them 9-3 and 10-0. There is a 5 goal expected differential between them. They SHOULD beat them by 5 goals. In fact they beat them by 6 and 10, so that should move the Jr Sharks up in the rankings

It's actually 7 goals.  They cap it at 7, so in your example the Goal differential on those 2 games was 13 -- very close to the maximum you could have.

That is not what I'm talking about though, I'm talking about the socal teams, mainly the Kings and Ducks, have enjoyed a subtle advantage compared to teams in other districts where they have played numerous top 10 teams, even getting wins and ties against those opponents, but due to having to play league opponents with a lower quality of competition, lose points and ranking position.  It's a subtle weakness of the algorithm.  Overall, I don't disagree that the computation does a good job of providing you a general idea of the relative strength of teams you are going to be playing, but it's certainly not cut and dry, nor a substitute for actually playing games.   

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First - I'm not saying the Reign are a bad idea, even though they are uncompetitive. There is a middle ground between "just the three NHL clubs" and "Hey... let's add 3 more in a year". If you look up above, that was my original point. I worry particularly at 18's where it's really tough to get players, because a lot of the best AAA players move on to Jr.

In fact, that is one of the very best things about AAA -- that you play in your birth year.  It's not that the Reign chose to have 11 '05's playing up on their team.  It's that they were only sanctioned to have a U16 team, and the group of '05's, many of whom have played together on various A and AA teams previously, went as a group to the Reign.

As for the Sharks, I get that they were in a tough spot, and as I said, I take no pleasure in the restrictions to any of the many norcal hockey families.  With that said, the problems they face due to county restrictions, is in no way different to the restrictions that closed any number of community/city owned rinks, and which have kept them closed to this day.  The Pats I mentioned came out of Pasadena, and the Pasadena rink they expected to play in, closed at the start of Covid restrictions, and as we speak is still closed.  Should the Sharks been allowed to form teams in 2021 just in time to play in the state championships?  I personally don't see the harm, but something tells me that if it was a small club somewhere -- the existing rules regarding team formation and rostering dates might have been enforced.  In other words, are the Sharks teams, actual teams, or just tournament teams that have to win 2 small regional weekend tournaments to get a bid to the national championship?

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We need AAA teams in Seattle and Vegas. That would make a nice circuit and would change everything.

Neighboring states with far fewer hockey players and teams having AAA would be a game changer, but Cali having 5 or 6 AAA teams at age group would not?

Last I looked, LA to Seattle is about the same drive as LA to Texas, so I'm not sure how that's going to change a whole lot.  Seattle teams are already capable in normal years of playing Vancouver teams.

It's a lot more likely that a regional circuit will evolve if there's a healthy California AAA league that can provide a baseline of games that don't require expensive air travel. 
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Midget Hockey / Re: Lots and lots of AAA teams next year
« Last post by Knuckle Puck on March 25, 2021, 01:28:49 PM »
san diego and vegas would be better because driving. vegas now with 4 rinks should be able to support aaa in a few years. sd already produces enough quality players if they would just stay home and aggregate at one club. a legit elite sports academy in socal that includes a hockey division is ultimately what will be needed to keep the best talent home. we can dream, right?
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Midget Hockey / Re: Lots and lots of AAA teams next year
« Last post by notTHATdad on March 25, 2021, 12:15:49 PM »
Well, there is one thing we can agree on.


We need AAA teams in Seattle and Vegas. That would make a nice circuit and would change everything.

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