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Bantam Hockey / Re: Tryouts are pushed agaoin
« Last post by SkatingDad on Today at 09:29:59 AM »
The teams that had been together for many years showed. I know that many of the CA teams mentioned above have been together since at least PW maybe longer.  A newly formed team is at a greater disadvantage because they can not play and determine who fits where, this has to be done on the fly. Think SCAHA/CAHA selects or any scouting combine.


BTW, nice of some of you to read this as an
 excuse for losing a tournament. I could care less about losing or winning tournaments (Junior scouts do not care). At the older higher levels it is about individual scouting and wins and losses do not matter. I understand many of you believe you must win at all cost.
Maybe the "newly formed" team just sucks  :'(


Its good to be back !


Could be....  Does not matter as long as they are competitive with no big blowouts as individual scouting is all that maters at the older upper levels.
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Bantam Hockey / Re: Tryouts are pushed agaoin
« Last post by notTHATdad on September 27, 2020, 01:13:02 PM »



At this point in a normal year (end of September) most AAA teams have played one tournament. Maybe two. T1EHL never starts before October, so it depends on how many 'warmup' things they do.

Instead hopefully they have been practicing. Seems a bit over dramatic.


Maybe the team is just bad.


Seems over dramatic.


Maybe the team just sucks


After coming back from a AAA weekend I can tell you that CA kids are at a huge disadvantage because they are not able to scrimmage or play games of any kind in the state. The other states are not that way and non of the teams we faced looked as if it was their first game of the year.


I am so sick of this...
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Bantam Hockey / Re: Tryouts are pushed agaoin
« Last post by justanotherhockeydad on September 25, 2020, 11:02:16 AM »
The teams that had been together for many years showed. I know that many of the CA teams mentioned above have been together since at least PW maybe longer.  A newly formed team is at a greater disadvantage because they can not play and determine who fits where, this has to be done on the fly.
Yes it does matter that a newly formed team may lack chemistry and familiarity with each other. But like I said, some teams belong and some teams don't, no matter how long they've been together. Our team lost 1/3 of kids from last yr and went to 2 tournaments with 5-6 new kids.

At our first tournament of the year, we went 0-5. At the second tournament, we went 5-0. Granted some of the kids at the 2nd tournament were not at the 1st and vice versa, our kids are acclimating to a new team/coach/environment/covid etc, just like your team. BTW, at our latest tourney, three of our kids have been together since PW and of those three, two of them are goalies and the rest have been together maybe 2-3 seasons.


BTW, nice of some of you to read this as an excuse for losing a tournament. I could care less about losing or winning tournaments (Junior scouts do not care). At the older higher levels it is about individual scouting and wins and losses do not matter. I understand many of you believe you must win at all cost.
I don't believe in winning at all cost, but at the same time, you won't hear me cry about what a disadvantage CA kids have if we lose a tournament. Covid restrictions have been affecting all youth hockey teams one way or another... It is what it is.

Like you said, at this level, it's about individual scouting, right? So don't worry about your team and how they perform, just worry about your kid, otherwise it may be a long season judging by your club's past history...
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Bantam Hockey / Re: Tryouts are pushed agaoin
« Last post by alfirst on September 25, 2020, 10:08:21 AM »
At Denver there was ID 07 team at AAA level playing under Tever Bulls name. They lost 3 games (2 of them by a big margin) and tied one. In Wisconsin about a month earlier they had similar record - with some blow out losses.   
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Bantam Hockey / Re: Tryouts are pushed agaoin
« Last post by trans4761 on September 25, 2020, 10:01:48 AM »
The teams that had been together for many years showed. I know that many of the CA teams mentioned above have been together since at least PW maybe longer.  A newly formed team is at a greater disadvantage because they can not play and determine who fits where, this has to be done on the fly. Think SCAHA/CAHA selects or any scouting combine.


BTW, nice of some of you to read this as an
 excuse for losing a tournament. I could care less about losing or winning tournaments (Junior scouts do not care). At the older higher levels it is about individual scouting and wins and losses do not matter. I understand many of you believe you must win at all cost.
Maybe the "newly formed" team just sucks  :'(


Its good to be back !
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Bantam Hockey / Re: Tryouts are pushed agaoin
« Last post by SkatingDad on September 25, 2020, 08:57:00 AM »
The teams that had been together for many years showed. I know that many of the CA teams mentioned above have been together since at least PW maybe longer.  A newly formed team is at a greater disadvantage because they can not play and determine who fits where, this has to be done on the fly. Think SCAHA/CAHA selects or any scouting combine.


BTW, nice of some of you to read this as an excuse for losing a tournament. I could care less about losing or winning tournaments (Junior scouts do not care). At the older higher levels it is about individual scouting and wins and losses do not matter. I understand many of you believe you must win at all cost.
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Bantam Hockey / Re: Tryouts are pushed agaoin
« Last post by CAHockeyParent on September 24, 2020, 09:30:05 PM »
The Denver CCM 14U AA had 3 California teams:


Angry Eskimos (Wave)
Home School Hockey (GSE N/S?)
Rapid Athlete Development (Kings)


The remaining spots were filled with teams from Nevada (Jr Knights), Utah (Eagles), and Colorado (Highland Hills, Arvada Gold/Black, Krivo, Monument Hockey (?))


Wave went 2-2 and missed the Semis
Home School went 6-0 beating RAD 3-2 in Round Robin, the Jr. Knights in the Semis and Arvada Gold in the Finals
RAD went 3-2 losing to Home School 2-3 and Arvada Gold in the Semis


The California teams at the AA level faired well against the top CO and Utah teams. So far that's the only gauge that I'm aware of at the AA level.


Obviously the 06 AAA Kings are playing and have been doing well (based on their MHR record and scores). Unsure if any of the 07AAAs are playing.


In CO there were a few of the younger AAA teams (08, 10 at least).

Edit: it also appears that the 07 AAA Ducks and Kings have played. The Kinga did well in Minneapolis against, what should be, fairly formidable teams.







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Bantam Hockey / Re: Tryouts are pushed agaoin
« Last post by Knuckle Puck on September 24, 2020, 02:54:36 PM »
what is hurting the competitiveness of socal teams more than anything is that dozens of top players have left the state for good (2006s and older). this is now year six of that trend.
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Bantam Hockey / Re: Tryouts are pushed agaoin
« Last post by alfirst on September 24, 2020, 02:09:01 PM »
I guess some specifics are needed here - did they face competition they normally do?  As as bad as it is CA is not the only state shutting down your sports.

Well if you go out of state, obviously you won't face competition you're familiar with. Oh, wait...


Some teams belong in their registered division and some don't. It has always been that way. And like you said, CA is not the only state with restrictions applied to youth hockey, so losing your tourney and blaming it on Covid seems like a cop out to me.




By "normally" I actually meant  - do those winning AAA teams are facing teams they usually face during their out-of-state travel - and not some scrub scrimmage/travel teams. If they are winning vs teams there were playing against last year  - then, I guess, shut down worked fine for them (or they did find a way to
prepare themselves game wise)
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Bantam Hockey / Re: Tryouts are pushed agaoin
« Last post by Bear71 on September 24, 2020, 12:21:41 PM »
On the bright side... by 2035 we'll all have electric cars.  8)


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