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Re: Bantam AAA
« Reply #30 on: September 15, 2016, 12:50:35 PM »
Heard that 02 Gulls AAA got rid of coach for missing first game. That was a strong team. Seems a bit of over reaction?


Guarantee missing the game was just the straw that broke the camel's back.  I'm sure this was building up.  His demeanor during games was not well regarded. 

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Re: Bantam AAA
« Reply #31 on: September 15, 2016, 02:24:09 PM »
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Re: Bantam AAA
« Reply #32 on: September 16, 2016, 07:59:35 AM »
..That was a strong team...

Still is...

Very True!
Guess coach was also coaching college team in the area and club not interested in sharing his time.

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Re: Bantam AAA
« Reply #33 on: September 16, 2016, 08:17:51 AM »
..That was a strong team...

Still is...

Didn't they get beat in state finals last year something like 9 to 1?

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Re: Bantam AAA
« Reply #34 on: September 16, 2016, 09:51:26 AM »
That should have been a one goal game either way.  (look at the earlier game in the playoffs or any other from the season vs. the ducks for reference).  However, the ref at Lakewood tosses the Gulls starting goalie (suspends him for a month, which got appealed down to time served as the committee probably saw the video) for a blocker sandwich after a scrum in his crease.  It should have been a roughing at most.  Quality reffing.  State final no less. 

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Re: Bantam AAA
« Reply #35 on: September 16, 2016, 10:07:25 AM »
What is the current selection process for qualifying for Districts at Bantam Major? Is it just the CAHA state champ or does the runner up get an invite as well?

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Re: Bantam AAA
« Reply #36 on: September 16, 2016, 10:16:56 AM »
runner up?? or first loser?!

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Re: Bantam AAA
« Reply #37 on: September 16, 2016, 04:34:33 PM »
What is the current selection process for qualifying for Districts at Bantam Major? Is it just the CAHA state champ or does the runner up get an invite as well?

Yes, runner-up goes as well. Or as previously mentioned "First Loser".

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Re: Bantam AAA
« Reply #38 on: September 16, 2016, 04:42:10 PM »
Considering Kings have 2 of 3 teams in Major, I'm going to go out on limb and predict Kings will have one of those spots!

On the Minor side- Ducks take the finals.

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Re: Bantam AAA
« Reply #39 on: September 16, 2016, 05:12:16 PM »
That should have been a one goal game either way.  (look at the earlier game in the playoffs or any other from the season vs. the ducks for reference).  However, the ref at Lakewood tosses the Gulls starting goalie (suspends him for a month, which got appealed down to time served as the committee probably saw the video) for a blocker sandwich after a scrum in his crease.  It should have been a roughing at most.  Quality reffing.  State final no less.


Should have, would have, could have.  Just found out score was 5-1 when starting goalie got tossed.

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Re: Bantam AAA
« Reply #40 on: September 16, 2016, 05:21:19 PM »
In major I take ducks 02 over kings 03 and gulls in 3rd
In minor it should be ducks 03 over sharks 03, gulls have no chance

Considering Kings have 2 of 3 teams in Major, I'm going to go out on limb and predict Kings will have one of those spots!

On the Minor side- Ducks take the finals.

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Re: Bantam AAA
« Reply #41 on: September 16, 2016, 06:18:58 PM »
What is the current selection process for qualifying for Districts at Bantam Major? Is it just the CAHA state champ or does the runner up get an invite as well?

Yes, runner-up goes as well. Or as previously mentioned "First Loser".

Last year in Bantam Major, Kings, Ducks, Sharks and Gulls all made it to Pacific District.  Of course, they were the only teams in the entire tournament!  The only CAHA team left out of Pacific District was GSE, who finished in 4th place at states.  Kings did not play in states and got the automatic bid since they hosted districts at TSC (for Bantam, 16's and 18's). 

I initially suspected all those CAHA teams were invited because nobody else came, and it was local.  However, in 16's, there were 4 CAHA teams, in addition to 4 teams from other states.  In 18's, there were only 4 CAHA teams.

This year, Districts for Bantam and 18's are in Alaska.  15's and 16's are in Las Vegas.  Will be interesting to see how many CAHA teams get the nod to Districts this year, although it's a 5 and half hour flight to Alaska from Los Angeles.  I wonder if the number of CAHA teams last year was a function of Districts being in CAHA, or CAHA's greater number of hockey players?  The reality is that CAHA typically has more AAA teams than all the other states in the Pacific District combined.  For Bantam Major this year, there is an Alaska team and they are the hosts, so they will no doubt be there.  Washington has a couple of teams, and that's pretty much it outside of CAHA.

My guess for Districts would be 2 CAHA teams, Alaska and a team from Washington.  If Washington doesn't go, then perhaps a third team from CAHA.

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Re: Bantam AAA
« Reply #42 on: September 16, 2016, 09:05:49 PM »
So in theory...if the puck bounces the right way you could have an 03 team represent in the 02 Districts and possibly beyond?

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Re: Bantam AAA
« Reply #43 on: September 16, 2016, 10:28:45 PM »
So in theory...if the puck bounces the right way you could have an 03 team represent in the 02 Districts and possibly beyond?

Valid question! CAHA approved the exception but does that continue at the District and National level? Although a good 03 team, not sure how well they'll withstand the physical side of players that could be two years older and more experience in getting the body off the puck. There are some talented big boys out there, that will have no problems moving those 03 around. Time will tell whether this was a good choice or not. Out for the season with an injury can change the outlook considerably.

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Re: Bantam AAA
« Reply #44 on: September 17, 2016, 06:58:50 AM »
So in theory...if the puck bounces the right way you could have an 03 team represent in the 02 Districts and possibly beyond?

Valid question! CAHA approved the exception but does that continue at the District and National level? Although a good 03 team, not sure how well they'll withstand the physical side of players that could be two years older and more experience in getting the body off the puck. There are some talented big boys out there, that will have no problems moving those 03 around. Time will tell whether this was a good choice or not. Out for the season with an injury can change the outlook considerably.

If the 03 Kings finish in the top two in Bantam Major, pretty sure they will be moving on to Districts with a shot at Nationals.  Eligibility is determined at the state level, and the players are registered through USA Hockey.  States typically have to advise Districts by October 1st of the Tier I teams eligible for Districts, and USA Hockey is advised of who is eligible for Nationals by October 15.  CAHA's eligibility list for Bantam is almost certainly going to be the teams playing in Bantam Major, which includes the 03 Kings.

Bantam is defined as 13 and 14 year olds, unlike the new 15U's, which is a pure 15 year old division.  14 year olds who play up in Midget have to play 16U, and are not allowed to play 15U.  I'm not aware of any rule that requires a Bantam Major team to be all 14 year olds (although that is typically the case), or to even have a minimum number of 14 year olds to qualify for Major.  Otherwise, it seems unlikely CAHA could grant the exception as a USA Hockey sanctioned entity.  For example, I know that last year a 13 year old playing on a Bantam Major team played in Districts and Nationals.  Since CAHA approved the 03 Kings to play Major, I think they'll get their shot as a sanctioned CAHA representative if they place high enough in States.

03 Kings played up in PW Major two years ago.  They were about a .500 team and finished fourth out of five teams during the regular season, but they did make a little noise in States.  That gave them far more competitive local games than they would have had playing in PW Minor.  With checking and puberty, Bantam is a different game, especially playing up a year.  Many first year Bantam players experience significant injuries.  The last few years, several Bantam teams have had numerous players out with injuries.   The 03 Kings are head and shoulders better than the other local 03 teams, so no doubt their choice to play up was motivated by the desire for competitive local games.  However, they may have greater than their share of usual first year Bantam injuries since they will be playing against older, more mature teams.  Let's hope not. 

They've already beaten the 02 Kings a couple of times, and lost to the Gulls a couple of times.  They haven't played the JD's yet.  The Wave and Sharks folding their Bantam Major teams no doubt opened the door for the 03 Kings to play up.  I suspect they will be just fine in Bantam Major, particularly in individual games during the season.  If they don't already, they will soon have their checking legs under them. They will move the puck better than some, and not be as physical as others.  Although, in a tournament setting like States where they have to play multiple games against the older teams in a short period of time, the cumulative physicality of the play may take a toll.  All of this should be fun to watch.