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Re: Peewee AA 2017-2018
« Reply #435 on: September 11, 2017, 07:52:54 AM »
Not sure who picked this schedule, but OC sure got a cake schedule! Maybe because they were last year's SCAHA champs?
Let's all remember, these are kids!

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Re: Peewee AA 2017-2018
« Reply #436 on: September 11, 2017, 07:54:52 AM »
skate - Given the current list of AA teams, that team, which has many 06 kids could absolutely play AA - and btw - my kid doesn't have anything to do with OC or the Ducks.   Are they top tier?  No.  BTW - Ducks 2 were trailing OC until the end.  Someone has a beef with OC, that's pretty obvious.  Does that imply that Ducks 2 are also not AA caliber?  To lose so closely to this "Pee Wee A" team? 

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Re: Peewee AA 2017-2018
« Reply #437 on: September 11, 2017, 07:58:46 AM »
Not sure who picked this schedule, but OC sure got a cake schedule! Maybe because they were last year's SCAHA champs?
There are no last year PW A SCAHA champs on that team.

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Re: Peewee AA 2017-2018
« Reply #438 on: September 11, 2017, 09:13:11 AM »
As it pertains the the politics and Runtso's Duck team, I heard it is true. However, it's not the team you are thinking of.  That team does not exist any more unfortunately. His A team is a new group of kids and his team from last year is scattered all around SCAHA/CAHA.

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Re: Peewee AA 2017-2018
« Reply #439 on: September 12, 2017, 07:09:57 AM »
Anyone have the score for the Gulls 1 game?  or the Bears?

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Re: Peewee AA 2017-2018
« Reply #440 on: September 12, 2017, 10:31:38 AM »
Bears 11-1 over Saints 2... game went to run time early in the 3rd period

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Re: Peewee AA 2017-2018
« Reply #441 on: September 12, 2017, 06:51:49 PM »
skate -   Are they top tier?  No.  BTW - Ducks 2 were trailing OC until the end. 
But the question is? Did OC Win? Who cares if they were leading. What does the final score sheet say? No beef with OC, I only state the facts.

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Re: Peewee AA 2017-2018
« Reply #442 on: September 13, 2017, 12:36:37 PM »
skate -   Are they top tier?  No.  BTW - Ducks 2 were trailing OC until the end. 
But the question is? Did OC Win? Who cares if they were leading. What does the final score sheet say? No beef with OC, I only state the facts.


In the "Prove It" game of OCHC PWAA (2) v. Jr Ducks (2) Runtso, the final score was 1-3  (not 3-5 as erroneously reported above).  Runtso Ducks scored 2 goals in first 10 minutes of the game. OCHC then scored their only goal of the game with less than a minute remaining in period 1.  The Jr Ducks scored goal #3 in third period.  Jr Ducks were short 2 players.

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Re: Peewee AA 2017-2018
« Reply #443 on: September 13, 2017, 02:55:12 PM »
I tried computing the RPI from the Labor Day tournament, and got these for flight 1:

  • California Golden Bears 12AA
  • Golden State Elite 12AA-1
  • Los Angeles Jr Kings 12AA-1
  • Anaheim Jr Ducks 12AA-1
  • Ontario Jr Reign 12AA
  • San Diego Jr Gulls 12AA-1
  • San Jose Jr Sharks 12AA
  • Valencia Jr Flyers 12AA
  • Golden State Elite 12AA-2
  • San Diego Saints 12AA-2
"The RPI takes a team's winning percentage, their opponent's winning percentage, and their opponent's opponent's winning percentage and factors them together to come up with a team's RPI. The only difference between the two is the weighting of each category. College basketball still uses 25%-50%-25%, while college hockey weights their RPI 25%-21%-54%."


It doesn't, of course, include politics.




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Re: Peewee AA 2017-2018
« Reply #444 on: September 13, 2017, 05:59:45 PM »
skate -   Are they top tier?  No.  BTW - Ducks 2 were trailing OC until the end. 
But the question is? Did OC Win? Who cares if they were leading. What does the final score sheet say? No beef with OC, I only state the facts.


In the "Prove It" game of OCHC PWAA (2) v. Jr Ducks (2) Runtso, the final score was 1-3  (not 3-5 as erroneously reported above).  Runtso Ducks scored 2 goals in first 10 minutes of the game. OCHC then scored their only goal of the game with less than a minute remaining in period 1.  The Jr Ducks scored goal #3 in third period.  Jr Ducks were short 2 players.


I think OC-2 Bickley played two games this weekend - both against Ducks teams.  No skin in this game for me, but I did catch part of the OC-2 5-3 loss on Sunday.

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Re: Peewee AA 2017-2018
« Reply #445 on: September 13, 2017, 06:27:44 PM »
I tried computing the RPI from the Labor Day tournament, and got these for flight 1:

  • California Golden Bears 12AA
  • Golden State Elite 12AA-1
  • Los Angeles Jr Kings 12AA-1
  • Anaheim Jr Ducks 12AA-1
  • Ontario Jr Reign 12AA
  • San Diego Jr Gulls 12AA-1
  • San Jose Jr Sharks 12AA
  • Valencia Jr Flyers 12AA
  • Golden State Elite 12AA-2
  • San Diego Saints 12AA-2
"The RPI takes a team's winning percentage, their opponent's winning percentage, and their opponent's opponent's winning percentage and factors them together to come up with a team's RPI. The only difference between the two is the weighting of each category. College basketball still uses 25%-50%-25%, while college hockey weights their RPI 25%-21%-54%."


It doesn't, of course, include politics.


Not questioning your equation because I have no idea what the equation would look like but how would the Sharks AA and the Reign teams be above Santa Clara or GSE2? Both teams seemed like they were amongst the weakest teams at the jamboree after watching both teams play twice.
When it's all said and done it's just a game for kids.

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Re: Peewee AA 2017-2018
« Reply #446 on: September 13, 2017, 06:30:23 PM »
Quote from M@sshole: Three complete lines & three sets of D. Not sure if that constitutes "rostered a ton." Quick shifts and strong play for Shand and the boys will see plenty of ice time.




Hmmm, heard there were some upset parents that their kids on 3rd and 4th lines didn't get much ice time during jamboree weekend? 1st and 2nd lines saw quite a bit of ice time. Why are they  complaining? I am sure they were aware of this when they signed.
« Last Edit: September 13, 2017, 06:31:20 PM by skates »

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Re: Peewee AA 2017-2018
« Reply #447 on: September 13, 2017, 08:39:07 PM »
Quote from M@sshole: Three complete lines & three sets of D. Not sure if that constitutes "rostered a ton." Quick shifts and strong play for Shand and the boys will see plenty of ice time.




Hmmm, heard there were some upset parents that their kids on 3rd and 4th lines didn't get much ice time during jamboree weekend? 1st and 2nd lines saw quite a bit of ice time. Why are they  complaining? I am sure they were aware of this when they signed.

I'm a parent of one of those lower line forwards for OC1.  Our son wasn't happy but he is adjusting and with a year of AA play and some potential, he knows that if he wants to be trusted by the coach during crunch time, he needs to work hard and earn that trust.   He had a goal and an assist last Sunday but still has a long ways to go.  Can't speak for other parents, but they too may recognize that this is a special team and coach and whatever the issues, they are less than most other teams have.   The 3rd line on this team may, in time, equal other team's first lines.   It depends on the latent potential of the boys and their commitment to hard work. 

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Re: Peewee AA 2017-2018
« Reply #448 on: September 14, 2017, 12:43:56 AM »
I tried computing the RPI from the Labor Day tournament, and got these for flight 1:

  • California Golden Bears 12AA
  • Golden State Elite 12AA-1
  • Los Angeles Jr Kings 12AA-1
  • Anaheim Jr Ducks 12AA-1
  • Ontario Jr Reign 12AA
  • San Diego Jr Gulls 12AA-1
  • San Jose Jr Sharks 12AA
  • Valencia Jr Flyers 12AA
  • Golden State Elite 12AA-2
  • San Diego Saints 12AA-2
"The RPI takes a team's winning percentage, their opponent's winning percentage, and their opponent's opponent's winning percentage and factors them together to come up with a team's RPI. The only difference between the two is the weighting of each category. College basketball still uses 25%-50%-25%, while college hockey weights their RPI 25%-21%-54%."


It doesn't, of course, include politics.


It also doesn't include logic if it includes Saints2, Reign, and Jr Sharks in the top flight.  They are fighting to make flight 2 and not be relegated to peewee A.  Back to the drawing board on this one, I would think.  Blackhawks, Kings2, Ducks2, Ice Dogs, Saints1, and Gulls2 all better than those 3.
« Last Edit: September 14, 2017, 12:54:38 AM by #4BobbyOrr »

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Re: Peewee AA 2017-2018
« Reply #449 on: September 14, 2017, 12:55:55 AM »
As Barbie once said, math is hard.  Here's an updated list after fixing a couple of errors on my part:

  • Golden State Elite 12AA-1
  • California Golden Bears 12AA
  • Orange County Hockey Club 12AA-1
  • San Diego Jr Gulls 12AA-1
  • San Diego Saints 12AA-1
  • Santa Clara Blackhawks U12AA
  • Los Angeles Jr Kings 12AA-2
  • Los Angeles Jr Kings 12AA-1
  • Golden State Elite 12AA-2
  • Anaheim Jr Ducks 12AA-2
Again, no politics involved.  Duck1 (now 12th) and Sharks (now 15th) no longer make flight 1.