Peewee AA 2017-2018

[Icelife]

Question as our family is relatively new to the area and definitely to tier hockey.
Since it appears SCAHA sets up games as well as CAHA, is there a reason why scores aren't posted on SCAHA site along with the schedule we can all see? Also, does AA play for any SCAHA title or do they only play for CAHA title?
Thanks!

[6607]

The SCAHA games (this year) are exhibition games.  For the SCAHA scheduled games, managers do not report scores to SCAHA; they only provide their team's stats and the scoresheet to CAHA.

[Canis Majoris]

Nice of CAHA to make all the So Cal teams travel north again to Vacaville so soon after San Jose weekend.

[Icelife]

In their defense the rest of the weekends are all south.

[lcadad]

I've said this previously and I'm going to state it again - CAHA does not have any further information that would support picking one of the several "bubble teams" over any other team.  Here's a list of the supposed bubble teams as far as I know them:

Ducks2
GSE2
Flyers
Ice Dogs
Kings 2

So we have things like this:

Flyers vs OC1  -  Flyers in a rematch, lost bad 7-1.  Looks ugly, until you find out the shots were 30-30 in the game.  Flyers have some stuff to work on there.

Flyers vs OC2 this weekend:  Flyers 10-5.  Shots were something like 33-15. 

Last weekend, Ducks2 vs OC2, was 5-3, and OC2 had to play a show me game on Saturday, which they lost to Runtso's A team 1-3.  So Ducks2 are better than the Flyers?  Full game vs. Saints1, and Ducks2 lost 5-2.  Flyers lost 4-1 in SJ.  I'll take the high road here, and say, let's both get in and see how the season goes

Kings2, had a soft schedule in SJ and came out 3 and 1.  Most folks were saying ID's should be Flight2.  Now they tied Kings2 5-5.   What does it all mean?

Lots of other teams have played, but not seeing a lot of scores reported.  Don't know if there have been some embarrassing results or what the deal is, but not a lot of transparency.  Of course, we have no idea what is going on up at CAHA central, other than that the show-me games are happening.  Maybe that is all they are focused on at present?

[TheFourthA]

I don't see any basis for placing Kings 2 and Dogs in an expanded Tier I.  Correct me if I am wrong, but the Dogs have won only one game (including the Jamboree), and that was a 3-1 game against the Sharks.  Kings 2 has a good record, but have any of their wins been against teams outside of your 14-18 teams?  I am not sold on either team, and don't see any reason that teams 14-18 would not be competitive with them (and in point of fact, Gulls 2 has beaten the Ice Dogs).

Anyway, Tier I cannot have more than 10 teams.  My bet is that they cut it at 8

[#4BobbyOrr]

I think it should be noted that the Kings2 played back to back games on Sunday. 10am exhibition game against the Jr Coyotes followed by a noon game against the Ice Dogs who still couldn't beat them.  No way the Dogs tie that game if the Kings have fresh legs.


Also the Kings2 have only had or will have the opportunity to play teams in the top 3 (GSE1, Kings1, and Bears in two weeks) or teams near the bottom (Reign, Sharks, Gulls2 twice, and Ice Dogs).  Beat all in the second group handily except the Ice Dogs and as I mentioned above they played them in the second of back to back games.  No idea where the Kings2 sit besides not at the top and not at the bottom. It would be nice for them to get a chance to play some teams in the 5 to 10 range. 

[trans4761]

I don't see any basis for placing Kings 2 and Dogs in an expanded Tier I. 

Anyway, Tier I cannot have more than 10 teams.  My bet is that they cut it at 8

If CAHA was going to draw the line for flight 1 at 10 teams, I think 1-10 have proven they belong. If CAHA was hard core, they'd make Flight 1 the 1-8 teams, but seeing as Ducks 2 beat the Gulls 1 in San Jose, I don't think you can leave them out. Plus, they're the Ducks which could make the next CAHA board meeting a little awkward should they get relegated to flight 2.


We're in agreement about Kings 2 and Dogs, but would you be surprised if CAHA simply goes with 1 flight of 13 teams and relegates the teams I have listed as Tier 2 to Peewee A? Perhaps Reign survive as 14 (doubt it) and 15-18 drop to A. Regardless, if you are a team listed in the 14-18 group, why even bother trying to play Flight 2 AA when the top half of Peewee A is going to be just as competitive for you?

Come on B.O. !!


Excuses are like assholes.....everyone has one and they all stink.
No room for excuses at CAHA weekend's and playdowns.

[#4BobbyOrr]

I don't see any basis for placing Kings 2 and Dogs in an expanded Tier I. 

Anyway, Tier I cannot have more than 10 teams.  My bet is that they cut it at 8

If CAHA was going to draw the line for flight 1 at 10 teams, I think 1-10 have proven they belong. If CAHA was hard core, they'd make Flight 1 the 1-8 teams, but seeing as Ducks 2 beat the Gulls 1 in San Jose, I don't think you can leave them out. Plus, they're the Ducks which could make the next CAHA board meeting a little awkward should they get relegated to flight 2.


We're in agreement about Kings 2 and Dogs, but would you be surprised if CAHA simply goes with 1 flight of 13 teams and relegates the teams I have listed as Tier 2 to Peewee A? Perhaps Reign survive as 14 (doubt it) and 15-18 drop to A. Regardless, if you are a team listed in the 14-18 group, why even bother trying to play Flight 2 AA when the top half of Peewee A is going to be just as competitive for you?

Come on B.O. !!


Excuses are like assholes.....everyone has one and they all stink.
No room for excuses at CAHA weekend's and playdowns.

then excuses are very similar to Trans4761's then too, I guess 

[trans4761]

I don't see any basis for placing Kings 2 and Dogs in an expanded Tier I. 

Anyway, Tier I cannot have more than 10 teams.  My bet is that they cut it at 8

If CAHA was going to draw the line for flight 1 at 10 teams, I think 1-10 have proven they belong. If CAHA was hard core, they'd make Flight 1 the 1-8 teams, but seeing as Ducks 2 beat the Gulls 1 in San Jose, I don't think you can leave them out. Plus, they're the Ducks which could make the next CAHA board meeting a little awkward should they get relegated to flight 2.


We're in agreement about Kings 2 and Dogs, but would you be surprised if CAHA simply goes with 1 flight of 13 teams and relegates the teams I have listed as Tier 2 to Peewee A? Perhaps Reign survive as 14 (doubt it) and 15-18 drop to A. Regardless, if you are a team listed in the 14-18 group, why even bother trying to play Flight 2 AA when the top half of Peewee A is going to be just as competitive for you?

Come on B.O. !!


Excuses are like assholes.....everyone has one and they all stink.
No room for excuses at CAHA weekend's and playdowns.

then excuses are very similar to Trans4761's then too, I guess 

B.O. YOU GOTTA HAVE A BETTER CRACK THAN THAT  !!


Oh well.....reg season hasn't started.

[puckluck]

At this point it's pretty clear who are the top and bottom teams. I would rank them the following way.


Tier 1:


1. GSE 1
2. Kings 1 (Beat Kings (2) 7-2 on Saturday & Beat Bears 4-2 on Sunday)
3. Bears 1 (Lost to Kings (1) 2-4 on Sunday)
4. Gulls 1  (Score vs. OCHC1?)
5. OCHC1 (Score vs. Gulls 1?)
6. GSE 2
7. Ducks 1 (Don't know the score, but I assume they destroyed Saints 2)
8. Saints 1 (Beat Ducks 2 6-2)
9. Blackhawks
10. Ducks 2 (Lost to Saints 1 2-6)
11. Flyers (I assume they beat OCHC 2)
12. Kings 2 (Lost to Kings (1) 2-7 & tied Ice Dogs (5-5)
13. Ice Dogs (Tied Kings (2) 5-5.


Tier 2:




14. Reign (Played Gulls 2 - Score?)
15. Gulls 2 (Played Reign - Score?)
16. OCHC 2 (Played Flyers - assume they lost, but score?)
17. Saints 2 (Assume Ducks 1 had their way with them)
18. Sharks



* It seems like 1-8 are all pretty tight. Any of those teams can beat each other on any given day.


** 9-13 seem like they'll be competitive with each other all year, but will struggle against 1-9.


*** 14-18 should just drop or be dropped. It's clear they're not competitive on the AA level.


Let the arguing begin.

Gulls 1 score 8-0 against Reign Gulls Win and OCHC 1 against Gulls 1 6-2 Gulls Win.

[Go Kings_26]

BO is correct.  How many of your kids have played games 45 minutes apart?  That after two games the day before?  Even with all that, the Ice Dogs could barely hang on in the end.  I predict a KINGS 2 blowout of the Ice Dogs next time they meet.  Not a strong team.

[NorcalDad]

BO is correct.  How many of your kids have played games 45 minutes apart?  That after two games the day before?  Even with all that, the Ice Dogs could barely hang on in the end.  I predict a KINGS 2 blowout of the Ice Dogs next time they meet.  Not a strong team.

I think most teams have better coaches and managers than that.

[Go Kings_26]

Norcal - wow, take a shot at the staff!  It's actually the result of poor planning by Scaha and the fact that they fine you if you missing a game.

[6607]

So SCAHA scheduled Kings 2 to play back to back games on Sunday?