Tier II Flight System. This is gonna make for a hell of a thread......

[trans4761]

Depends on the kid and the school.  I know there is a player on harvard who received a full educational ride based on academics and he was home schooled his entire life from elementary to graduating high school.  Each situation is different.



Good for him.  That is impressive!  There are always exceptions...  Of course every situation is different, but there are generalities.  I'm pretty sure they were talking in general terms and don't feel they (USA Hockey and more than 15 D1 colleges) had any reason to lie about what they look for.  Exceptional kids with Superior Hockey skill (like the Patrick Kane example they used), or Super Gifted Smart (like your example) are not the norm.

Also, just to more information.  Harvard is an Ivy league school.  Just like Dartmouth, Princeton, Yale, Columbia, Cornell, Brown, UPenn, etc. Ivy Leagueschools provide financial aid to students, including athletes, only on the basis of financial need as determined by each institution's Financial Aid Office. There are no academic or athletic scholarships in theIvy League.  This does not mean the example you gave did not get a "ride" due to financial need and possibly a scholarship from a 3rd party group, but they did not get from the College.  I spoke directly to the Dartmouth Head Coach who also indicated that most kids will need a couple years in Junior Hockey before advancing to NCAA.  This was noted by someone else as well.  Further he indicated for Dartmouth (he did not confirm all Ivy League, but he believed it to be true for those schools as well), any college courses taken during those say 2 years of Junior Hockey at a local college will NOT be transferable.  This is specific to IVY/Dartmouth but I found interesting.

....so what your saying is my kids 2 5 gpa with "marginal" hockey skills, in addition that he is a wop-sican (probably won't reach 5"10) won't be enough to get him a D1 ride ?.......that's fucked up.


Btw.......you guys are idiots.....

[makeawish]

You should ask yourself where do you see your son after Highschool , do. you think those improved
Gpa will make him a success at MIT or other Ivy League colleges ? I doubt, will he be the next Patrick Kane I doubt as well so enjoy the ride while it lasts. As for ML, he was a great coach who attracted top players at his tryouts at the wave 6 or more years ago. Times have changed and him jumping ship to become THA coach mid season and leaving other kids stranded was not a classy move. But I guess Leo wrote a big enough check for ML throw is integrity out the door.

[1hockeydad]

You should ask yourself where do you see your son after Highschool , do. you think those improved
Gpa will make him a success at MIT or other Ivy League colleges ? I doubt, will he be the next Patrick Kane I doubt as well so enjoy the ride while it lasts. As for ML, he was a great coach who attracted top players at his tryouts at the wave 6 or more years ago. Times have changed and him jumping ship to become THA coach mid season and leaving other kids stranded was not a classy move. But I guess Leo wrote a big enough check for ML throw is integrity out the door.

I think that ML left the Wave before last season.  Very disappointed on how things went.  On many levels.

[hipcheck34]

Hipcheck34-Sounds like a good situation-Who does THA play against? Other prep schools?

Yes the do play other prep schools. You can go to there website and look at the schedules for both teams..

[hipcheck34]

You forgot to mention how much school was missed.  Take the 18k. send your kid to a college prep school with ice hockey....he will get exposed to the hockey world but will also get a AAA education and priceless life lessons. IMHO

Thanks for posting. Truly useful.

I agree this will be the second year my son will be attending THA and his GPA went from a average 2.6 to a 3.6. Gets to be on the ice 5 days a week 2 hours a day. 55 plus games. THA had a lot of ups and downs but with the main facility and dorms completed this year and affiliation with a Jr program this year will be a huge step forward and my son is very excited about going back. This is the first summer that he has worked so hard on his off ice training program. As a 6'3 265lb defenseman and still growing I think he is going to surprise his coaches when they go back in August....

Having any kid on the ice that amount of time is going to make ANY kid better.  ML is a hell of a coach but he's not for everyone (no coddling there)
But come on.....gpa going up in an online school is nothing to get a hard on about.
I can home school my kid and his gpa can go from 3.5 to 4.2 also.  Doubt MIT would be breaking down my door.

Good thing my kid doesn't want to go to MIT.....just stating that the online has worked well for my kid. ML is not for every kid but your right excellent coach and my kid respects him and his coaching....

[hawxfan]

You should ask yourself where do you see your son after Highschool , do. you think those improved
Gpa will make him a success at MIT or other Ivy League colleges ? I doubt, will he be the next Patrick Kane I doubt as well so enjoy the ride while it lasts. As for ML, he was a great coach who attracted top players at his tryouts at the wave 6 or more years ago. Times have changed and him jumping ship to become THA coach mid season and leaving other kids stranded was not a classy move. But I guess Leo wrote a big enough check for ML throw is integrity out the door.

I think that ML left the Wave before last season.  Very disappointed on how things went.  On many levels.

We were on one of ML teams at the Wave before he left, he handled it very poorly. No its was not before season had started he was at our first few games then we show up to practice to find out he is out of town for a bit, and an email from him saying its temporary while they look for a new coach for THA.  Could have been handled better by him, didn't even talk to the boys.

[coachbombay]

I don't know what is personal and financial situation was and you always have to take care of "numero uno" first, but I think his credibility has taken a hit for sure.

[Crash]

Why all the hostility on this thread? Obviously high academics AND a sport give a kid a competitive advantage. That's not opinion, it's just reality.


My question how do we get Quackers n' Kings to team up with UCLA to get a D1 team in LA?

[Hockey05]

Get rich alumni to demand it.  Arizona State had a donor give $35 million and now they have a D1 team.

[cog254]

Why all the hostility on this thread? Obviously high academics AND a sport give a kid a competitive advantage. That's not opinion, it's just reality.


My question how do we get Quackers n' Kings to team up with UCLA to get a D1 team in LA?

Looks like Fresno St is planning on D1 in 3/4 years...they already have facilities built..I think if they pull it off you will see SJSU, UCLA, USC follow

[coachbombay]

I can't see a CSU school pulling it off due to their funding. It has to be a private school or maybe a UC, if they get a big enough donor. Most likey it will be USC, because of the kind of money it takes to start a program. I think Penn st got over 100 million donated to them from Terry Pegula for their program.

[trans4761]

Why all the hostility on this thread? Obviously high academics AND a sport give a kid a competitive advantage. That's not opinion, it's just reality.


My question how do we get Quackers n' Kings to team up with UCLA to get a D1 team in LA?

Looks like Fresno St is planning on D1 in 3/4 years...they already have facilities built..I think if they pull it off you will see SJSU, UCLA, USC follow

Thats what they when AZ started D1.  Fact is the schools have no incentives ($$) to start a D1 program.


JMO, but I think it would be better served to organize a quality D 2/3 program and build from there.
Just because it's called D1,  doesn't make it D1......right BF.....

[cog254]

I can't see a CSU school pulling it off due to their funding. It has to be a private school or maybe a UC, if they get a big enough donor. Most likey it will be USC, because of the kind of money it takes to start a program. I think Penn st got over 100 million donated to them from Terry Pegula for their program.

No practice rink....Fresno and SJSU have those plus arenas....also the other sports (football, basketball) are D-1....just saying

[coachbombay]

i hope you are right, because we are long over due for NCAA hockey in so cal.

[DustyBender]

Depends on the kid and the school.  I know there is a player on harvard who received a full educational ride based on academics and he was home schooled his entire life from elementary to graduating high school.  Each situation is different.



I'm pretty sure we're talking about the same kid, never played higher than AA in CAHA.