Predictions for AA?

[WCHP]

i will say that the ADHSL league, still needs some work, the scheduling is a mess and games on CaHa weekends, weeks with out a game, and the player turnout and commitment at times can be a little poor, especially when you have travel kids. We left the team for other reasons, but looking back at how the team we left did and whats happening with the CAHA madess it looks like we dodged a bullet, but still had a good season.

[SkatingDad]

The problem with the current state of affairs, if you want to play club beyond Bantam, you have to play Tier.  Otherwise you have to play in the glorified in house league AKA High School. Therefore, you want to play at least one year of AA before Midget. It is a big jump from Bantam A to Midget AA. 


There are signs of this changing since they are now charging full price for High School but, that remains to be seen. We can thank the Ducks for messing everything up...

[WCHP]

The problem with the current state of affairs, if you want to play club beyond Bantam, you have to play Tier.  Otherwise you have to play in the glorified in house league AKA High School. Therefore, you want to play at least one year of AA before Midget. It is a big jump from Bantam A to Midget AA. 


There are signs of this changing since they are now charging full price for High School but, that remains to be seen. We can thank the Ducks for messing everything up...

The HS League skill level it's pretty good calling it in house is not correct IMO.

[WCHP]

There are signs of this changing since they are now charging full price for High School but, that remains to be seen. We can thank the Ducks for messing everything up...

what do you feel the Ducks did to mess up the league, im curious?

[SkatingDad]

There are signs of this changing since they are now charging full price for High School but, that remains to be seen. We can thank the Ducks for messing everything up...

what do you feel the Ducks did to mess up the league, im curious?

Where have you been? 


The Ducks in a pure power grab created the High School league with their money and influence.  They wanted full control of hockey in SoCal and to take things away from clubs, SCAHA and CAHA.  This year the Kings also joined in on the power move.  However, a lot of people are rumbling about having the pay full price.  They simply do not see a cost versus benefit for the skill level of a glorified in house league. I for one hope that more people choose club hockey in the future.

[WCHP]

There are signs of this changing since they are now charging full price for High School but, that remains to be seen. We can thank the Ducks for messing everything up...

what do you feel the Ducks did to mess up the league, im curious?

Where have you been? 


The Ducks in a pure power grab created the High School league with their money and influence.  They wanted full control of hockey in SoCal and to take things away from clubs, SCAHA and CAHA.  This year the Kings also joined in on the power move.  However, a lot of people are rumbling about having the pay full price.  They simply do not see a cost versus benefit for the skill level of a glorified in house league. I for one hope that more people choose club hockey in the future.

The price we paid for HS was about $1000 less than the club we were on, we are getting the same amount of ice time that we got for the club team, we are not nickel and dimed to death with little extra costs each week which seems to come with travel, we don’t need travel to BFE each month. The Skill level is on par with AA (maybe a smidge less), all the kids go to the same school or surrounding neighborhoods instead of being from all over and only seeing them at the rink. Most of our kids are not going pro…so I feel the HS is a great alternative at this age level.

[JakesDad01]

HS hockey in SoCal must be different than in NorCal.  In NorCal there is a big skill level difference - especially compared to flight 1 AA teams.

[Portent]

The Ducks didn't create the HS league as a power grab for money or control. Geez, some people need to review the USA hockey stats on memberships. Male membership has been on the decline in the 2nd year Bantam through midgets for years. The Ducks looked for ways to not only keep those players from leaving, but also how to grow the numbers. They researched what was being done in other parts of the country where the decline is less. Playing HS hockey was an alternative and they decided to run with it. They heavily subsidize the first few years of new clubs to help them gain some footing. Doesn't sound like a money grab to me. Besides, don't we always have those parents complain that we should be doing it like the east coast anyways... I will make no argument on the quality of the HS teams, that will just take time.
However, getting back to the point. Because of the HS league, local club push, and other factors California is one of the highest growing states in terms of membership right now. Pretty much across most levels.

[trans4761]

The Ducks didn't create the HS league as a power grab for money or control. Geez, some people need to review the USA hockey stats on memberships. Male membership has been on the decline in the 2nd year Bantam through midgets for years. The Ducks looked for ways to not only keep those players from leaving, but also how to grow the numbers. They researched what was being done in other parts of the country where the decline is less. Playing HS hockey was an alternative and they decided to run with it. They heavily subsidize the first few years of new clubs to help them gain some footing. Doesn't sound like a money grab to me. Besides, don't we always have those parents complain that we should be doing it like the east coast anyways... I will make no argument on the quality of the HS teams, that will just take time.
However, getting back to the point. Because of the HS league, local club push, and other factors California is one of the highest growing states in terms of membership right now. Pretty much across most levels.

Sorry, it' not like they do it out of the goodness of their heart.  It' a good/inexpensive marketing tool for the Ducks.  But more importantly, the kids registered in the WHOLE high school league counts towards the JD registered players, thus giving the JD more power in SCAHA.

[Puck Yeah]

The Ducks didn't create the HS league as a power grab for money or control. Geez, some people need to review the USA hockey stats on memberships. Male membership has been on the decline in the 2nd year Bantam through midgets for years. The Ducks looked for ways to not only keep those players from leaving, but also how to grow the numbers. They researched what was being done in other parts of the country where the decline is less. Playing HS hockey was an alternative and they decided to run with it. They heavily subsidize the first few years of new clubs to help them gain some footing. Doesn't sound like a money grab to me. Besides, don't we always have those parents complain that we should be doing it like the east coast anyways... I will make no argument on the quality of the HS teams, that will just take time.
However, getting back to the point. Because of the HS league, local club push, and other factors California is one of the highest growing states in terms of membership right now. Pretty much across most levels.

Sorry, it' not like they do it out of the goodness of their heart.  It' a good/inexpensive marketing tool for the Ducks.  But more importantly, the kids registered in the WHOLE high school league counts towards the JD registered players, thus giving the JD more power in SCAHA.

by what mechanism?  What is the power that they acquire?  Legit question not a challenge, you have to preface these things to avoid getting flamed on these boards.

[trans4761]

The Ducks didn't create the HS league as a power grab for money or control. Geez, some people need to review the USA hockey stats on memberships. Male membership has been on the decline in the 2nd year Bantam through midgets for years. The Ducks looked for ways to not only keep those players from leaving, but also how to grow the numbers. They researched what was being done in other parts of the country where the decline is less. Playing HS hockey was an alternative and they decided to run with it. They heavily subsidize the first few years of new clubs to help them gain some footing. Doesn't sound like a money grab to me. Besides, don't we always have those parents complain that we should be doing it like the east coast anyways... I will make no argument on the quality of the HS teams, that will just take time.
However, getting back to the point. Because of the HS league, local club push, and other factors California is one of the highest growing states in terms of membership right now. Pretty much across most levels.

Sorry, it' not like they do it out of the goodness of their heart.  It' a good/inexpensive marketing tool for the Ducks.  But more importantly, the kids registered in the WHOLE high school league counts towards the JD registered players, thus giving the JD more power in SCAHA.

by what mechanism?  What is the power that they acquire?  Legit question not a challenge, you have to preface these things to avoid getting flamed on these boards.

From my understanding, the more registered players you have in your system ( that I believe also includes adult league but not sure) the more voting power you have.

[trans4761]

.....nothing wrong with what they are douing under the present guidelines.  Trying to gain more market share. 

[Puck Yeah]

Do you know how the voting power is actually rationed?

[fistocuffs]

One club. One vote




Membership only comes into play when voting for
Caha elected positions

[Strawman]

One club. One vote




Membership only comes into play when voting for
Caha elected positions

Membership determines a club's voting power for the CAHA Board.  (CAHA Bylaws, Section 39.2)  The Board, in turn, elects all the Executive Officers of CAHA and appoints all the Executive Committees.  (CAHA Bylaws, Sections 40, 41.)  The Board, Executive Officers, and Executive Committees essentially make all the decisions or appoint those who do.  (CAHA Bylaws, Addenda B-D.)

That kind of sounds like the definition of power to me.