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Re: PWAAA
« Reply #30 on: November 21, 2017, 02:51:35 PM »
Why are you so angry and obsessed? What happened to drive you this far? You’re making up lies and attacking people that cared for your family and your kid when you were with the Jr Ducks. Perhaps you would be better off focusing on your own child and new team.


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Re: PWAAA
« Reply #31 on: November 21, 2017, 03:14:04 PM »
Why are you so angry and obsessed? What happened to drive you this far? You’re making up lies and attacking people that cared for your family and your kid when you were with the Jr Ducks. Perhaps you would be better off focusing on your own child and new team.




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Re: PWAAA
« Reply #32 on: November 21, 2017, 03:15:49 PM »
I thought the rink reps managed scoresheet? Aren’t they signed by the refs as well?
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Re: PWAAA
« Reply #33 on: November 21, 2017, 03:20:23 PM »
Why are you so angry and obsessed? What happened to drive you this far? You’re making up lies and attacking people that cared for your family and your kid when you were with the Jr Ducks. Perhaps you would be better off focusing on your own child and new team.




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Re: PWAAA
« Reply #34 on: November 21, 2017, 04:24:24 PM »




Well, kids came and went at different times. Early on, a key kid left. Ghost player was used to keep minimum without adding another player. Then, another player became free from another team... and they added that player. As a way to cover themselves, they kept the ghost player on the roster. Once or twice or three times is a clerical error... 17 is not. The coaches and assistant coaches continued to sign scoresheets with the ghost player on it... and went so far as to give him fake stats. This in itself is a major, major violation. But it brings up bigger issues like is there an LOI?  Is it real or fake?  Did the ghost player pay dues?  Where are the receipts?  And, most importantly, did the Jr Ducks organization know about this?  If they did... then they've tiptoed into the Wave territory of losing an entire Tier division for a year.       



I literally gave you the roster from CAHA that shows 15 real kids that played from the first game to the last. None of them came and went. Your main argument of allowing them to reach a minimum is invalid. You've rallied a bunch of parents from the Wave and Kings, that were good parents, into believe you when the true evidence is right in front of everyone's face.   



Incorrect. Jr Ducks had 13 kids after tryouts... then added kid from Wildcats... and then another from Jr Kings. Ghost player was the insurance.  Oddly, though, ghost player stayed on the roster.


So, answer this... why was ghost player left on roster 17 times (don’t say clerical error)? And how did he receive stats in 4 games (don’t say ref error)?


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bulldogsrock

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Re: PWAAA
« Reply #35 on: November 21, 2017, 04:25:32 PM »
Hey we used to all be friends. Lets get together and clear the air. No need to speculate and make assumptions or accusations based on mis-information. This goes both ways. It’s kids hockey and it’s not worth going thru angry. I can’t believe any parent on either team actually hates each other or wants this.

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Re: PWAAA
« Reply #36 on: November 21, 2017, 04:30:16 PM »
Funny how everyone bashed KC and The Wave. It was  basically a witch hunt by angry parents. No one seemed to care about those kids or families. Again this only hurts the kids, but fair is fair. If there was cheating and score sheets were not correct, the punishment should be the same.
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Re: PWAAA
« Reply #37 on: November 21, 2017, 05:02:29 PM »
If EK signed the scoresheet with a ghost player, it's a one year suspension for both the coach and manager. Club should also get a one year Peewee AA suspension. This is the precedent that CAHA set last year with the Wave. It's the coaches responsibility to make sure that the roster is correct, or at least according to CAHA.
It sucks to have anyone suspended for PDR or minimum roster rules, but these are the rules that the big clubs came up with to benefit their clubs. It looks like it didn't work out too god for them this time.
I think what everyone really wants to see is how much pull the Ducks organization has over CAHA. In most peoples opinion, they run the league. We will soon find out..I have a feeling we'll only hear about this on the boards!

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Re: PWAAA
« Reply #38 on: November 22, 2017, 02:27:43 AM »


As for the Ghost player issue....it was proven to be false........there was no ghost player as much as you want one. The ducks NEVER violated roster rules they had no reason to as they had enough players.
 


So if there was no "ghost player" then are you contending that the player in question played in all 17 games he is listed as playing in on the CAHA stats page and that he earned 4 assists legitimately?  If he played a few games and it was a clerical error that he stayed on the roster, did he sign an LOI? Did he pay dues? What was he charged?  There was a player that moved to MN that played in 0 regular season games. When they moved did the roster drop below the required number of players?  They added a player that was released from the Kings who played in 17 of 19 CAHA games.  Assuming that player missed the first two games, then did the Ducks add the suspected "ghost" player and for the first two games and then cut him when the Kings player transferred? If so then why wasn't he removed from the roster?  Was he given a refund? Is there a record of a refund?  If he was cut then how did he earn points later in the season when he was no longer on the team?  A double clerical error? Wouldn't a player who wasn't on the team being given points in games he didn't play in raise a red flag and cause the team to remove him from the roster?  If they, as you said above, had enough players, why would a Tier team sign a player from the Ducks inhouse league?  I've never heard of a kid going from inhouse to AA, is that a common thing?  Why did they call up players from their lower level travel teams to go to out of town tournaments instead of the inhouse player? It stands to reason that if they wanted to add a real player to their roster, isn't it more likely that they would have chosen to take one of the players that they took to an out of town tournament?  Certainly you can see that this raises a lot of questions.  You can't say it was a clerical error, you would have to say it was a series of clerical errors.  This looks like a perfect storm of clerical errors. A little too perfect.  And after having said all that, I honestly have no idea of any rules were broken but this seems a bit shady. 

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Re: PWAAA
« Reply #39 on: November 22, 2017, 08:19:52 AM »
The fact is the coach, assistant coaches and manger signed an incorrect scoresheet 17 times.  Motivation isn’t important… the violation is.  A precedence was set last year for improper scoresheets.  CAHA has to act. At the very least, the group should get a game suspension for each violation… putting it at 17 games. But the precedence is a one-year suspension for the coach and a Tier ban on the organization. Anything short of that exposes CAHA as a biased, ethically-corrupted organization.
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Re: PWAAA
« Reply #40 on: November 22, 2017, 08:25:28 AM »
WOW !!!!!!!!!


B.O. AND KJ  ON THE SAME PAGE !!


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Re: PWAAA
« Reply #41 on: November 22, 2017, 09:53:43 AM »
When do the Kings and Ducks play each other again?  I'll have my popcorn ready.

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Re: PWAAA
« Reply #42 on: November 22, 2017, 10:08:07 AM »
When do the Kings and Ducks play each other again?  I'll have my popcorn ready.
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Friday 12/1 & Saturday 12/2 are the Round Robin games

Not scheduled against each other during round robin but hopefully meet during the "seed play" or possibly the The Final on Sunday 12/3 @ 12:40pm.

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Re: PWAAA
« Reply #43 on: November 22, 2017, 03:25:15 PM »
Why are you so angry and obsessed? What happened to drive you this far? You’re making up lies and attacking people that cared for your family and your kid when you were with the Jr Ducks. Perhaps you would be better off focusing on your own child and new team.


Sorry Bulldogsrock, “Just Saying” is not who you think it is. Just sayings kid was not a Jr Duck.

trans4761

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Re: PWAAA
« Reply #44 on: November 22, 2017, 09:34:37 PM »

Why are you so angry and obsessed?


Start here:


https://www.calhockey.com/index.php/topic,3455.0.html
Let' use a simple analogy......
Your kid does somehing against school rules (that was just changed to favor the principals nephew) and gets kick out of school and not allowes to go to any  schooll in the area.
The next year, the principals nephew does pretty much the same thing and doesn't get shit.
Understand ???