This Community is For Sale - For more information contact: admin@calhockey.com

Author Topic: Pee Wee AA 2018-19  (Read 190142 times)

TheFourthA

  • Squirt
  • **
  • Posts: 78
  • LR Justice +13/-5
Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
« Reply #285 on: September 19, 2018, 09:02:48 AM »
When alfirst says that ID2 is "crushing everybody,"  it really just means that they crushed G2 and K2 in their last two games.  Those 2 games are a very small and selective sample; didn't ID2 tie D2 in a scrimmage and tie G2 at the Jamboree?  Haven't they given up an average of over 30 SOG in their three reported games against D2, G2 and K2?  I wonder how they will match up against Kings 1 and Gulls 1 which are not going to allow a lot of breakways or odd man rushes, and who understand gap control?  How do they match up against GSE2 which would probably be more than happy to see who wins a run and gun game against ID2 (I suspect that would be a very entertaining game to watch)?


alfirst

  • Peewee
  • ***
  • Posts: 151
  • LR Justice +16/-39
Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
« Reply #286 on: September 19, 2018, 09:56:03 AM »
They also did crush OC team in Jamboree - so 3 "crushes" in last 4 or 5 games. But, yes - they did have ties and yes, Flight I will be way more challenging, They are not to blame though that they received opponents they got, right? And I am not sure about G2 but K2 is a pretty strong team by whom core group  of ID2 last year on SQA level were crushed couple of times. This year ID2 got some new "star" players and things changed.
 
On a separate note - was never believer on SOG stat, especially on kids level. Crossbar does not count as SOG, e.g. and some off the board "dumping" into the net would. Some not really goal chance shots into the chest of a goalie is SOG while "just missed" shots could me way more dangerous. So - just allowing a shot is not necessarily a killer - imho.

TheFourthA

  • Squirt
  • **
  • Posts: 78
  • LR Justice +13/-5
Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
« Reply #287 on: September 19, 2018, 10:51:47 AM »
Don't get me wrong.  Not blaming ID2 for their schedule, but adding OC to the list of low Flight 2 teams that ID2 crushed does not tell me anything that I don't know about ID2: their game is perfectly suited to demolishing very weak opponents.  Is this teaching them how to play against older, bigger teams that have move passed the run and gun approach?  How will their game play against quality opponents (and admittedly it is anyone's guess so far how few of those there are).  I am not saying that they won't be able to do that, just that they have not been tested by any team that I think is a true contender to make the state playoffs, and won't be until at least Valencia...


alfirst

  • Peewee
  • ***
  • Posts: 151
  • LR Justice +16/-39
Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
« Reply #288 on: September 19, 2018, 12:34:15 PM »
That's obviously the case to be seen - but as of now still pretty impressive. Not all contenders from Flight I are posting such results

HockeyGuy-99

  • Squirt
  • **
  • Posts: 69
  • LR Justice +22/-8
Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
« Reply #289 on: September 19, 2018, 01:28:21 PM »
I thought ID1 was the strong team and ID2 was fringe.  Who's the stronger team?  Are they both the top of the PeeWee AA division, if so how did that happen?  Kings and Ducks must be having hot flashes thinking about that little club fielding two teams better than theirs.  They play out of the same rink, what are the results of their scrimmages together?  ID1 is the team that beat Kings 1 right?  Is ID2 able to beat that Kings 1 team as well?  I thought ID1 and Kings 1 were on an island by themselves.       



Ethicka

  • Mite
  • *
  • Posts: 3
  • LR Justice +0/-0
Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
« Reply #290 on: September 19, 2018, 03:38:37 PM »
Per the SCAHA Site


Gulls #1 VS Maple Leafs
   8                   1


Ducks #2  VS  Flyers
   5                  4


Gulls #2   VS   Ice Dogs #1
     0                      5


Reign    VS    Empire HC
    0                     5


Ducks #1   VS   Wave
   3                      4


Kings #2     VS   Ice Dogs #2
    1                         11




NotfromSoCal

  • Mite
  • *
  • Posts: 46
  • LR Justice +4/-19
Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
« Reply #291 on: September 19, 2018, 05:03:42 PM »
So it looks like ID2 is in fact better than ID1, look at those scores.   Ducks 2 won and Ducks 1 lost so it seems they are in the wrong flights.  Gulls 1 are clearly a front runner as well.  These scores really tell a different story than what everyone was stating.  I wonder how this is affected by the teams from that other state of NorCal.  Can’t wait to spend February sleeping in our own beds!

Go Kings_26

  • Squirt
  • **
  • Posts: 87
  • LR Justice +6/-22
Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
« Reply #292 on: September 19, 2018, 10:27:11 PM »
Hockey Guy - it’s actually not surprising about ID fielding stronger teams. Programs that don’t carry AAA teams tend to have stronger AA teams as kids get older.

Deuce

  • Squirt
  • **
  • Posts: 66
  • LR Justice +6/-4
Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
« Reply #293 on: September 20, 2018, 08:54:46 AM »
Hockey Guy - it’s actually not surprising about ID fielding stronger teams. Programs that don’t carry AAA teams tend to have stronger AA teams as kids get older.


Aren't the only AAA teams in the state from the Kings, Ducks and Sharks?

alfirst

  • Peewee
  • ***
  • Posts: 151
  • LR Justice +16/-39
Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
« Reply #294 on: September 20, 2018, 09:23:25 AM »
Hockey Guy - it’s actually not surprising about ID fielding stronger teams. Programs that don’t carry AAA teams tend to have stronger AA teams as kids get older.


Aren't the only AAA teams in the state from the Kings, Ducks and Sharks?


Yep -  that's the point. Then according to that logic ALL other clubs should be golden in AA. 

Ethicka

  • Mite
  • *
  • Posts: 3
  • LR Justice +0/-0
Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
« Reply #295 on: September 20, 2018, 09:41:55 AM »

I personally think you need to know more information that just the score to make a judgement on any team.
Here is more information from the SCAHA web site. OK talk amongst yourselves.

Team   Score SOG PM   Other
Gulls 1   8    55      6   
M Leafs   1   12    2   

Ducks 2   5   24    10   
Flyers    4   26   18   

IDogs 1   5   28    21    1 GMC
Gulls 2   0   10   14   

Empire    5   23    8   
Jr. Reign   0   14   2   

Wave   4   31    19    1 GMC
Ducks 1   3   26   17   1 GMC

IDogs 2   11   43    12   
Kings 2   1   22   6   


Bear71

  • Peewee
  • ***
  • Posts: 130
  • LR Justice +34/-9
Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
« Reply #296 on: September 20, 2018, 10:11:08 AM »

I personally think you need to know more information that just the score to make a judgement on any team.
Here is more information from the SCAHA web site. OK talk amongst yourselves.

Team   Score SOG PM   Other
Gulls 1   8    55      6   
M Leafs   1   12    2   

Ducks 2   5   24    10   
Flyers    4   26   18   

IDogs 1   5   28    21    1 GMC
Gulls 2   0   10   14   

Empire    5   23    8   
Jr. Reign   0   14   2   

Wave   4   31    19    1 GMC
Ducks 1   3   26   17   1 GMC

IDogs 2   11   43    12   
Kings 2   1   22   6   


You forgot the truest indicator used to judge teams: gallons of alcohol consumed by the parents before the game.

2 Cups in LA

  • Peewee
  • ***
  • Posts: 131
  • LR Justice +8/-31
Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
« Reply #297 on: September 20, 2018, 11:22:20 AM »
Its too early in the 18/19 season to give ID2 so much credit.    ID1 roster is stronger & more experienced.   Once ID2 starts playing teams with players that are not 08's or should be playing in PWA?  Then reality will set in.

alfirst

  • Peewee
  • ***
  • Posts: 151
  • LR Justice +16/-39
Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
« Reply #298 on: September 20, 2018, 11:43:11 AM »
True,


but they do have at least couple of players (and the better ones) who played Flight I previous season

JustAnotherHockeyParent

  • Squirt
  • **
  • Posts: 64
  • LR Justice +1/-4
Re: Pee Wee AA 2018-19
« Reply #299 on: September 23, 2018, 04:00:28 PM »
Any scores to report from today's action? (It has been too quiet in here...)