Pee Wee AA 2018-19

[PuckMonster]

To stir the topic into other direction - thinking (or more like watching) NHL or KHL - SCAHA posted some Flights PWAA schedule which is not in line with CAHA weekends - anybody have an idea what it is?

It is the only way the Kings large roster will get playing time.  They will not roll lines in Caha Weekends so the extra kids might want to watch the grass grow off the ice.

[6607]

Alfirst:  AA teams out of SoCal  play two schedules.  The CAHA schedule and the SCAHA schedule.  CAHA games count towards the CAHA standings; SCAHA games don’t.  Last year, SCAHA did not follow CAHA’s flighting system, which resulted in many non competitive games and the occasional embarrassing upset.


PM: does Kings 1 roll lines?  Doubt they will adopt different philosophies for SCAHA games, which will be counted by mhr...

[alfirst]

6607 - thanks for clarifying. So those are basically exhibition games as they do not effect "main" standings.


Well, PWAA teams just officially play way more games than PWA - guess, that's right for a higher tier. Wish I figured that out before the season...

[TheFourthA]

  Here’s my partially informed take on how things sort out going into Valencia.  I’ve put in bold italics the match-up that I am most interested in for each team, and have not counted exhibitions against AAA teams.
 
1.    Gulls (1) (5-1-1):  Beat Sharks (1) 5-3; lost to Ducks (1) 2-1; beat  Kings (2) 6-1 and tied Kings (1) at Jamboree.  Beat Kings (1) 5-3,  PML 8-1 and Ducks (2) 5-0.   I put them 1 by virtue of their regulation game win against Kings (1).  Valencia match-ups:  GSE(2), Kings(1) and Ducks (1). How do they match up against the strongest team from NorCal?
 
2.    Ice Dogs (1) (8-0): Beat Kings (1) 2-1, Reign 3-1, Ducks (2) 3-0, and Ducks (1) 2-1 at Jamboree.  Beat Wave 9-1 in scrimmage.  Beat Ducks (2) 4-1,  Gulls (2) 5-0, and Empire 7-2.  Valencia match-ups:  Ducks (1), ID (2), Wave, and Kings (1).   First game of the weekend and of the CAHA season.
 
3.    GSE (2)  (6-0-1):   Beat Ducks (2) 5-3, Gulls (2) (1-0), and  B’hawks 5-3, and tied  Empire 2-2 at Jamboree.  Beat GSE (1) 7-0, Sharks (1) 8-3 and Sharks 2 7-1 at pre-Jamboree scrimmages.   Valencia match-ups:  Gulls (1), ID (2), and B’Hawks.  I think GSE (2) will dictate whether this is a run and gun or more controlled game; I think GSE (2) would win a controlled game but can’t wait to see what happens if it becomes a north-south race.  My bet for most entertaining game of the weekend.

 
4.    Kings (1) (5-2-1):  Lost to Ice Dogs (1) 2-1; Beat Sharks (1) 7-0 and GSE(1) 5-0 and tied  Gulls (1) 2-2 at Jamboree. Beat Empire 5-0; lost to Gulls (1) 5-3;  beat PML 4-1;  beat OC 8-0.   Valencia match-ups:  Wave, Gulls (1), ID (1), and ID(2).  Two losses against the same team would probably relieve  K (1) of the  pressure of their number 1 MHR ranking.
 
5.    Wave (3-4-1).  Tied  Ducks (1), beat PML 5-1; lost to B’Hawks 3-2 and ID (2) 2-0 at Jamboree.  Lost to Ducks (1) 4-2 Lost to ID (1) 9-1.  Beat Ducks (1) 4-3. Beat ID(2) 4-3.  Starting to get results on ice that match their talent on paper.  Valencia match-ups:  Kings (1), ID(1) and ID(2).  Have they topped out or improved enough to compete against K (1)?
 
6.    Ice Dogs (2) (5-1-2).  Tied Gulls (2), beat GSE (1) 2-0, OC 9-0, and Wave 2-0 at Jamboree.  Tied Ducks (2) 6-6, Beat Gulls  (2) 10-1 and Kings (2) 11-1.  Lost to Wave 4-3.  I think they have the toughest schedule for this weekend.  Valencia match-ups:  ID (1), GSE (2), Wave, and Kings (1).  Need to play a full game against the Wave or the weekend could be tough.
 
7.    Empire (3-2-1):  Beat GSE (1) 2-1, Ducks (2) 1-0,  and Reign 4-2, and tied GSE (2) 2-2 at Jamboree.   Beat PML 4-3 and Reign 5-0; lost to Kings (1) 5-0  and ID(1) 7-2. Valencia match-ups: B’hawks and Ducks(1).  Empire gets two of the first three games and that’s it for the weekend for them.  WTF?! 
 
8.   Ducks (1) (6-3-2):  Tied Wave 1-1; beat Gulls (1) (2-1) and Sharks (1) 5-1.  Lost to Ice Dogs (1) 2-1 at Jamboree.  Don’t have all of their scores but beat Wave 4-2, beat Reign 5-0, lost to Kings (1) 5-1; beat Kings (2) 5-3, lost to Wave 4-3; tied Ducks (2) 3-3.  Beat OC 3-1.  Valencia match-ups:  ID(1), Empire, B’hawks, and Gulls(1).  Two tough match ups book-end easier ones.  Let’s see how they are playing at the end of the weekend against the Gulls.
 
9.   Blackhawks (2-2-1):  Lost to Kings(2) 3-2; Beat Sharks(2) 9-1 and Wave 3-2;  lost to GSE (2) 5-3 at Jamboree.   Seem to have played one team to a 5-5 tie in a scrimmage.  Maybe a NorCal parent can comment.   Valencia match-ups: Empire, Ducks(1), and GSE(2).  Not sure what to make of this team.
 
Anyone have thoughts on likely candidates for the play-in team?

 
 

[HockeyGuy-99]

I appreciate your effort TheForthA!  It was a good read.  The only thing I may question is Gulls 1 being #1 seeing as though they lost to the Ducks 1.  Not a strong team at all!  Just like last years Ducks flight one team, they are in for a long season.  Yes, the Gulls did make up for it with a win over Kings 1.  Clearly one of these 2 teams(Kings1 & Gulls 1) didn't get enough sleep the night before one of these games.  Either it was the Gulls vs the Ducks or the Kings vs the Gulls.  I guess we will find out this weekend!

.....And Poof! There are the Gulls at the top of the standings!   

[TheFourthA]

Regarding the Gulls, I didn't know a lot about them before the Jamboree, and was expecting Kings 1 to dispatch them in short order.  Didn't happen, and they followed it up with a regulation win.  So may be I have over ranked them because they beat my expectations for them.

 

[NotfromSoCal]

... And POOF, there goes the Gulls!

[overHEATed]

Flight 1 Final scores:

ID1.  2 - DUCKS  2
HAWKS  3 - EMPIRE  5
EMPIRE  6 - DUCKS 6
ID1.  6 -  ID2.  2
GULLS1  2 - GSE2. 4
WAVE  1 - KINGS1. 4
DUCKS  4 - HAWKS  4
ID1.  5 - WAVE 1
KINGS1.  4 - GULLS1.  2
GSE2.  9 - ID2. 1
GSE2.  6 - HAWKS 3
KINGS1. 1 - ID1.  0
ID2.  6 -  WAVE  4
GULLS1.  3 - DUCKS 1
KINGS1.  2 - ID2.  0

[LetsGoRangers]

If I was a GSE2 parent I would be pissed to go to Valencia and play the Blackhawks when they could have played a tougher (non-local) team like JRK1 or ID1. But hey that 4-0 record looks good!

[Rats13]

If I was a GSE2 parent I would be pissed to go to Valencia and play the Blackhawks when they could have played a tougher (non-local) team like JRK1 or ID1. But hey that 4-0 record looks good!

Although it seems weird to go to Valencia and play a NoCal team, it's not like it really makes a difference. They had to travel for the weekend anyways for the games against other SoCal teams.  It wouldn't save them anything to flip the game against the Hawks to a NoCal weekend.

[overHEATed]

If I was a GSE2 parent I would be pissed to go to Valencia and play the Blackhawks when they could have played a tougher (non-local) team like JRK1 or ID1. But hey that 4-0 record looks good!

Although it seems weird to go to Valencia and play a NoCal team, it's not like it really makes a difference. They had to travel for the weekend anyways for the games against other SoCal teams.  It wouldn't save them anything to flip the game against the Hawks to a NoCal weekend.

If I were to go to Norcal to play So Cal teams it would seem to be a waste.. All So Cal teams can scrimmage each other every weekend.
I would prefer a heavy dose of Norcal teams. Defeats the purpose of traveling.

[NotfromSoCal]

What difference does it make?  In February, the SoCal teams get to vacation in Vacaville twice to play other SoCal.  Well twice if they make the playoffs.  Every team plays each team twice and the number of trips up/down I-5 is the same.  Find something relevant to talk about like how in the H. E. Double Hockey Sticks did Kings 1 only beat ID 2 by a score of 2-0 yesterday?  BTW, the Gulls beat and tied the Kings in exhibition right?  These two teams have been anointed on here but they struggled to beat weak teams.  GSE2 is like a fine wine and will just get better with age...

[LetsGoRangers]

What difference does it make?  In February, the SoCal teams get to vacation in Vacaville twice to play other SoCal.  Well twice if they make the playoffs.  Every team plays each team twice and the number of trips up/down I-5 is the same.  Find something relevant to talk about like how in the H. E. Double Hockey Sticks did Kings 1 only beat ID 2 by a score of 2-0 yesterday?  BTW, the Gulls beat and tied the Kings in exhibition right?  These two teams have been anointed on here but they struggled to beat weak teams.  GSE2 is like a fine wine and will just get better with age...

What difference does it make? You just contradicted yourself with the difference it does make....lets just put this out into the intraweb. Which teams will develop more as the season progresses...the teams that play tougher teams earlier in the season or later?

I wont speak for anyone else but I rather play close games against tough teams early in the season (maybe even lose a game or 2)..but hey, thats just me.

[Rats13]

If I was a GSE2 parent I would be pissed to go to Valencia and play the Blackhawks when they could have played a tougher (non-local) team like JRK1 or ID1. But hey that 4-0 record looks good!

Although it seems weird to go to Valencia and play a NoCal team, it's not like it really makes a difference. They had to travel for the weekend anyways for the games against other SoCal teams.  It wouldn't save them anything to flip the game against the Hawks to a NoCal weekend.

If I were to go to Norcal to play So Cal teams it would seem to be a waste.. All So Cal teams can scrimmage each other every weekend.
I would prefer a heavy dose of Norcal teams. Defeats the purpose of traveling.

But you will.  There aren't as many NorCal teams as SoCal teams.  Everyone travels to each CAHA weekend with I believe a balanced schedule of each team twice.  Most CAHA weekends are a mix OR all SoCal team regardless of location.
Also if I am not mistaken they tried cutting back on the CAHA weekends and had the SCAHA Sunday games count in the standings to eliminate travel and there were less games and people complained.

[LetsGoRangers]

If I was a GSE2 parent I would be pissed to go to Valencia and play the Blackhawks when they could have played a tougher (non-local) team like JRK1 or ID1. But hey that 4-0 record looks good!

Although it seems weird to go to Valencia and play a NoCal team, it's not like it really makes a difference. They had to travel for the weekend anyways for the games against other SoCal teams.  It wouldn't save them anything to flip the game against the Hawks to a NoCal weekend.

Ok but what is the logic of playing the Blackhawks twice...both in Valencia? I get some Norcal teams have to play each other when traveling to SoCal, I totally get that..but come on.