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SkatingDad

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Re: What AA Bantam Teams for 2018-19?
« Reply #255 on: August 06, 2018, 04:09:58 PM »
The Flight 2 playoff should have been for the right to be the 8th place team in Flight 1.  Flight 1 should have 7 spots and the 8th spot for the winner of Flight 2. In fact, it would even make more since for Flight 1 to have 6 spots and then take the top two out of Flight 2 for 7th and 8th spot.  The top two Flight 2 teams are most likely better than the 7th & 8th place team in Flight 1 anyway...


Well that wasn't the case in Midget 16 last year.  The 8th place flight 1 team beat the 1st place flight 2 team.


I believe 16U was the only division where the Flight 2 team did not beat the Flight 1 team for 8th place.

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Re: What AA Bantam Teams for 2018-19?
« Reply #256 on: August 06, 2018, 04:29:33 PM »
Yes if I remember correctly (which is infrequent) I think it was.

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Re: What AA Bantam Teams for 2018-19?
« Reply #257 on: August 07, 2018, 12:25:03 AM »
Wasn’t it a very close game on the San Jose home ice?




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Re: What AA Bantam Teams for 2018-19?
« Reply #258 on: August 07, 2018, 09:51:34 AM »
Wasn’t it a very close game on the San Jose home ice?


4-2 if i recall, but like dom toretto said in fast and the furious, win by an inch or win by a mile...

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Re: What AA Bantam Teams for 2018-19?
« Reply #259 on: August 07, 2018, 09:59:06 AM »
same for Bantams

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Re: What AA Bantam Teams for 2018-19?
« Reply #260 on: August 07, 2018, 10:22:25 AM »
I thought CAHA nailed it for Bantams last year. The best flight 2 team had the chance to move on to Playdowns, but they lost, and I believe they lost by 6 or 7 goals. No matter what CAHA does, or doesn't do, people complain. Before it was there were too many AAA teams, and now it's that anyone should be able to be a AAA team. Now we complain about the Flight system (usually only the teams that gets put in Flight 2). I'm happy we won't have to play Flight 2 teams at CAHA weekends this year. There's a big difference between Major Bantam teams and a mostly Minor Bantam teams. At least CAHA is trying to fix what's broken and then adjusting again the next season. At some point they'll get it right. And I hope they do cancel the Flight 2 playoffs. None of the Flight 2 Bantam teams wanted to play in the playoffs, but we were threatened with fines and or club sanctions. Who wants to have a playoff for 2nd place in the loser bracket (1st place team was not allowed back to Flight 2 after play in game)?


I believe the biggest problem is CAHA and SCAHA is not moving teams to the division they should be in, which is almost always DOWN. Fix the LOI rules, you sign for a coach and you don't get a release if the team is forced to drop. If CAHA and SCAHA move teams down, the problem will fix itself in a year or two. Teams will slot themselves in the correct division instead of pissing off parents when the team drops. They should also limit the amount of teams in a division to 16 max and add a BB or C division.



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Re: What AA Bantam Teams for 2018-19?
« Reply #261 on: August 07, 2018, 10:34:42 AM »
What's it all matter your playing for second place anyway.
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Re: What AA Bantam Teams for 2018-19?
« Reply #262 on: August 07, 2018, 10:44:00 AM »
It's really not complicated... and more regulation is never the answer. Enforce ages for divisions and boundaries, and allow teams to ice as many teams as they want and at levels they want. If teams conduct themselves like the Wildcats, people will stay away and the program will go bankrupt. It's simple economics.
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Re: What AA Bantam Teams for 2018-19?
« Reply #263 on: August 07, 2018, 11:14:39 AM »
It's really not complicated... and more regulation is never the answer. Enforce ages for divisions and boundaries, and allow teams to ice as many teams as they want and at levels they want. If teams conduct themselves like the Wildcats, people will stay away and the program will go bankrupt. It's simple economics.
sorry Bender, but that's the root of all the problems in both SCAHA and CAHA. and people do not stay away because Johnny really should be a AA player

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Re: What AA Bantam Teams for 2018-19?
« Reply #264 on: August 07, 2018, 11:38:23 AM »
Wasn’t it a very close game on the San Jose home ice?

Yes but I know at least one of the SJ players got called up to AAA so he wasn't playing.

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Re: What AA Bantam Teams for 2018-19?
« Reply #265 on: August 07, 2018, 12:27:03 PM »
It's really not complicated... and more regulation is never the answer. Enforce ages for divisions and boundaries, and allow teams to ice as many teams as they want and at levels they want. If teams conduct themselves like the Wildcats, people will stay away and the program will go bankrupt. It's simple economics.
sorry Bender, but that's the root of all the problems in both SCAHA and CAHA. and people do not stay away because Johnny really should be a AA player


But then that's their fault. Buyer beware. Why should the governing body dictate who gets to play where based on "what if" scenarios? No one is trying to play for the Wildcats/Jr Reign because of their reputation. Everyone else runs a pretty honest program, playing within their ability. The only programs forcing teams into divisions are the Kings/Ducks (Squirt All Stars playing up) and Sharks (AAA on many levels)... who RUN CAHA and SCAHA.
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Re: What AA Bantam Teams for 2018-19?
« Reply #266 on: August 07, 2018, 12:35:15 PM »
I'm not sold on that. Why should a 'minor' team not get a chance to play for the state championship just because they are younger?

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Re: What AA Bantam Teams for 2018-19?
« Reply #267 on: August 07, 2018, 12:49:44 PM »
Here are the changes that I think would fix the majority of the issues that exist:


-Get rid of AA requirements for clubs to have AAA teams
-Remove red tape for non-franchise clubs to roster AAA teams
-Have Birth year divisions for all Tier  (Mix teams with > 3 major age non-goalie players would have to play in major division)
-Get rid of flighting and forget that it ever happened.


Existing rules like PDR would still address wholesale team hijacks, although they might want to raise the bar to 30%.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2018, 12:51:29 PM by lcadad »

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Re: What AA Bantam Teams for 2018-19?
« Reply #268 on: August 09, 2018, 09:07:48 AM »
I see OCHC 1 being a top contender. Both Wave teams will be a contender. Kings and Empire should be in the mix too.  Any other thoughts for Flight 1?


Think you are forgetting the Bears in the mix.


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Re: What AA Bantam Teams for 2018-19?
« Reply #269 on: August 09, 2018, 09:40:27 AM »
I see OCHC 1 being a top contender. Both Wave teams will be a contender. Kings and Empire should be in the mix too.  Any other thoughts for Flight 1?
:o Really?