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Roller... Yay or Nay?
« on: March 12, 2018, 06:56:23 PM »
Looking to get feedback on this.  Does anyone play, cross train?  Where, why?  Is hockey still hockey?

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Re: Roller... Yay or Nay?
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2018, 09:40:41 PM »
Depends on the position of the player.  Highly recommend that Ice Defensemen play Forward in Roller.  Ice Forwards play Defense and Goalies skate out.  if a goalie in ice, do not recommend that you play goal in Roller, they are completely different.

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Re: Roller... Yay or Nay?
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2018, 08:52:54 AM »
hmm disagree somewhat.  Roller is a great way to improve skill and have fun.  Play what ever position you want. 
Saying a ice goalie should not play roller goalie is like saying baseball players should not golf because the swing is different.
Kids are smart, they figure it out. 


Just let em play.


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Re: Roller... Yay or Nay?
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2018, 10:42:14 AM »
hmm disagree somewhat.  Roller is a great way to improve skill and have fun.  Play what ever position you want. 
Saying a ice goalie should not play roller goalie is like saying baseball players should not golf because the swing is different.
Kids are smart, they figure it out. 


Just let em play.


Completely different push in roller hockey for goalies which completely screws up their form that they've worked so hard to develop during the ice season.  Keep working with your ice goalie coach during the summer and skate out, skating is a core skill all goalies need to have.  Not a matter of figuring it out, it's a matter of screwing up all the hard work with bad habits.  It's nothing like baseball players not playing golf. 

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Re: Roller... Yay or Nay?
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2018, 11:59:00 AM »
Don't let the ice snobs fool you, some of the best pro ice hockey players and goalies to come out of socal played roller. as a matter of fact, Connor Mcdavid credits rollerblading for his speed on the ice and roller hockey in his driveway for his skills. Also, some of the best speed skaters in the world started as rollerbladers. Your brain is a fascinating thing. it can decipher the differences between a lot of different complicated things. Btw, here are some terrible ice hockey players who grew up playing roller hockey. Tomas Tatar, Ryan Kessler,  Paul Stastny, bobby ryan, Sam Gagner, Beau Bennet, Chris Terry, Cory Conacher, Dylan Strome, jason Zucker, Joe ward, Pat Maroon, Charlie Coyle, on and on etc....

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Re: Roller... Yay or Nay?
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2018, 01:00:32 PM »
hmm disagree somewhat.  Roller is a great way to improve skill and have fun.  Play what ever position you want. 
Saying a ice goalie should not play roller goalie is like saying baseball players should not golf because the swing is different.
Kids are smart, they figure it out. 


Just let em play.


Completely different push in roller hockey for goalies which completely screws up their form that they've worked so hard to develop during the ice season.  Keep working with your ice goalie coach during the summer and skate out, skating is a core skill all goalies need to have.  Not a matter of figuring it out, it's a matter of screwing up all the hard work with bad habits.  It's nothing like baseball players not playing golf.


I agree its a totally different game for a goalie. Just don't agree that it screws anything up.   Walking is totally different then skating my friend,  Yet we still walk.

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Re: Roller... Yay or Nay?
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2018, 01:13:57 PM »
Alright, I’m picking up what your laying down. This is exactly the sort of input needed. Roller hockey as a supplement and fun extension of the hockey experience is how we are approaching it. Just running with the in-house kids and staying in the game. For now.

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Re: Roller... Yay or Nay?
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2018, 02:09:43 PM »
Both my kids played roller, and at first it screws up they're ice game as skaters because they end up doing these big looping turns like they on the roller rink.  they get used to it after a while and most kids can do both without screwing up the other technique.  but, you can always tell the kid who plays roller more when they are on the ice...

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Re: Roller... Yay or Nay?
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2018, 04:31:13 PM »
It is a great way to practice, but you have to beat them to get them to stop doing mohawks on the ice.

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Re: Roller... Yay or Nay?
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2018, 05:38:28 PM »
Maybe.  But, no offense, if the player cannot make the adjustments to excel at both, then odds are when the age out, they will end up in the beer league.
Great players can play both w/o any issues - they are natural athletes.

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Re: Roller... Yay or Nay?
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2018, 05:46:05 PM »
Don't they all end up in the beer league?

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Re: Roller... Yay or Nay?
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2018, 08:29:26 PM »
Maybe.  But, no offense, if the player cannot make the adjustments to excel at both, then odds are when the age out, they will end up in the beer league.
Great players can play both w/o any issues - they are natural athletes.


They all end up in beer league anyway.  Some just spend more time and money to get there.  Even the natural athletes.

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Re: Roller... Yay or Nay?
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2018, 07:23:52 AM »
Why would roller hockey be a nay?  My kid plays it and likes it more than ice hockey - less bs, less thuggery, players seems to be more into teamwork.

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Re: Roller... Yay or Nay?
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2018, 07:36:34 AM »
AMEN TO THAT.  ALSO A LOT LESS TIME CONSUMING, FRACTION OF COST, AND MUCH SMALLER TEAMS SO PLAYTIME RATIO IS HUGE.

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Re: Roller... Yay or Nay?
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2018, 10:08:36 AM »
Fun tidbit about roller hockey history in SoCal...


For those familiar with now defunct T.I.D.E.S. roller hockey in house league, which originated on the blacktop playground of Lincoln elementary school in Redondo Beach (used border patrols as boards) and moved to a nicer outdoor facility at Adams Middle School in Redondo, a small tournament team was formed called the Tidal Waves.


In order to fund our tournament expenses, travel costs, and jerseys the parents would run a "snack shack" at our rink during in-house game weekends and cook up tri-tip sandwiches, philly cheesesteaks, etc and sell drinks/candy. It was a great family atmosphere.


The Tidal Waves team was made up of various players from the '90-'92 birth year, and probably saw about 15-20 players come through during the 3 years in existence. We played in various tournaments, never were the best team, or even in the highest division usually, and basically only played roller until 2000 after Toyota Sports Center was built. Back then there were no birth year teams, the cut off was September (?), so the team had to split for ice classifications and played mite/squirt ice hockey.


Of that group of 15-20 roller players there were some pretty decent skaters to come out of there:
Beau Bennett - NHL and D1 Denver University
Max Edson - D1 Air Force Academy
Jason Torf - D1 Air Force Academy
Wade Bennett - D1 Denver University
Brett Beebe -D1 Western Michigan University
Gudger Gentzler - D1 Colgate University
Tyler Maxwell - WHL


Not sure what the roller hockey landscape looks like today, but it offered a fun, competitive, and AFFORDABLE alternative to ice hockey in the late 90s/early '00s. Wherever you are, just get better and enjoy coming to the rink every day and things will work themselves out. More practice, more private lessons and more games doesn't always mean more success.


Remember....It's supposed to be fun, not every piece of hockey needs to be dissected into whether it is good or bad for development


Pictures below:
1) Tidal Waves members at the Bennett home in 1998
2) Same group (minus 1) at the Bennett house in 2016 on Beau's day with the Stanley Cup
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