What Bantam AA Teams for 2019-2020?

[socalhockeymom]

No, Saints added one forward from the 2005AAA Ducks not a D.

[socalhockeydad]

Ah I see him now - didnt know they picked up #10 from last years AAA05 Ducks.


Bears 1 have scrimmaged both Jr Kings AAA Bantam teams, hope the Saints do the same to see how they matchup.

[RealDeal]

“My point is that for all the AA parents arguing there should be more AAA teams, the proof is simply not there that the talent is there that you could field another competitive team in CA. Certainly not in Norcal. And we have more AAA teams for the number of AA teams there are (on average) than most states. I wish it were not so - competition is good for everyone, including teams.”

You’re missing the point.

1. According to the SCAHA declarations page, the Kings and Ducks have a total of 72 teams out of 280 total.  Yes, I know, the Ducks organization has gobbled up OC, but you know what I'm trying to say here.  What I'm trying to say is, someone tell me why the small clubs don’t have a dominant position on the CAHA board.
2.  The problem with giving the AAA teams to just the big clubs is that the system creates complete corruption.  A bad AAA coach can keep his AAA team year after year even if he’s a bad coach. There have been and ARE some poor AAA coaches who would not be attracting any top players AT ALL if any club that wanted could field a AAA team. 
3.  Go look at the history of Nationals.  California teams used to do much better at both the AA and AAA level.
                                   

[ABCDE]

As the last games are winding up, any thoughts on Bantam AA teams after the first CAHA weekend?  Or are we going to keep rehashing the AA/AAA/CAHA debate? 

[Grunt41]

That rates a separate thread to be started.  This one is played out and has already meandered enough for being off topic.

[DEFENDERS]

 Ok boys and girl, it’s a little to quit after a big weekend of hockey. So, I’ll start with the obvious #1 Saints, #2,3 &4 could go Bears, Ice Dogs & Kings1 and the rest it’s anyone guess on any given day. 

[Clue12345]

I have a question. Can someone explain to me how a flight 2 OC team is higher in the rankings than a flight 1 bears 2 team on myhockeyrankings.com? How do the my hockey rankings work? It makes no sense.

[ABCDE]

Myhockeyratings.com is based on what the manager turns in.  Not all games are always represented.  But it also takes into account the quality of your competition, so if you beat a higher rated team in a scrimmage or tournament that is logged, you'll get a higher rating.  Bears2 will have a very tough time in flight 1 and will be extremely lucky to win a couple of games.  Sorry, but it will be very tough.  That OC coach has been flight 1 since flighting began.  He will ensure his team improves and plays in good tournaments, scrimmages, etc, which will give them a good ranking.  Myhockeyrankings.com is only as accurate as the teams reporting their scores, but it's the best we have for now.  Personally, with no dog in either fight, I think OC is the better team and should have been rated higher than Bears 2 in the first place.  Are they flight 1?  Maybe not, but I'm a strong advocate against flighting in the first place.  End of season, OC will be a much improved team than they started as.  Bears1 were rated higher than Saints until just recently.  Yet, if you ask most any Bears1 parent, they'll admit Saints is a far stronger team as of now and they hope they'll be there in time.  Same could be said for Ice Dogs.  Saints is strongest out of the gate by far.  They took a strong birth year team and improved on it this year.  It will be very interesting to see how the top 4 shake out in the end as other teams improve.  But back to your question, flighting is grossly inaccurate and extremely political.  Myhockeyratings.com relies on the information input without political bias, so it's probably a more accurate rating of teams if the managers actually report everything.  It's definitely not accurate, but probably much more accurate than caha designations.

[Fiveholer]

I have a question. Can someone explain to me how a flight 2 OC team is higher in the rankings than a flight 1 bears 2 team on myhockeyrankings.com? How do the my hockey rankings work? It makes no sense.

Don’t pay too much attention to MHR this early in the season as it is a mathematical calculation that works better as you play more games and the average levels out.  That said, Bears2 recently played CAHA weekend against FL1 teams and lost all four, taking some hits on the math putting OCHC with a better math average as they have played less games and held their own in some of the games they competed in. Click on each team and drill down on the “Rating Math” to see how it works mathematically.  You will see where the Bears2 took some point hits, especially against Gulls1. 


So in summary, it’s early to tell, but if you look at Bears2 showing at CAHA and other scores, you may gather that the Flighting at the bottom of 1 and the top of 2 could be actually be mixed up (and this is where the politics of flighting begin).   CAHA flighting is human review and MHR is generally stats driven - you take your pick.....

[Clue12345]

Thank you for the clarification. I sometimes lean towards stats being the better picture. It takes all bias out of the equation. Happy hockey season everyone.

[ABCDE]

Any results this weekend?  Not much seems posted yet.

[bantamparent0516]

Empire tied OC 3 to 3!!! That should fire up this board!
Anybody hear how the saints fared against Kings AAA last week??

[socalhockeydad]

Saints lost 5-0 (i think?)...I know they lost.

[ABCDE]

SCAHA shows Saints lost to JD AA 2-0 this weekend.  Can anyone confirm?  That doesn't seem right.

[bantamparent0516]

I dont think SCAHA is complete yet, as the Empire score is incorrect as well. Hopefully they get it updated.