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Re: PW AA 2019-2020
« Reply #165 on: October 02, 2019, 01:30:30 PM »
We can agree to disagree here. Too many "occasional" big scores. And yes, everyone will develop -  but at what pace and quality. I was not talking about my son, again, I was talking / meant to about ALL upper teams. And I am not alone in this regard for sure

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Re: PW AA 2019-2020
« Reply #166 on: October 02, 2019, 06:05:13 PM »
Wonder how much "development" actually occurs at games whether close or lopsided.   Our experience is that development seems to occur at good practices (not all practices are equal or good), stick times, and spring clinics.   Games are the measure of development not its cause.   It seems that coaches are mostly interested in winning not development at games.   That is what they are suppose to be.   Only one well known club in SCAHA elevates losing games to the status of "development."

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Re: PW AA 2019-2020
« Reply #167 on: October 03, 2019, 09:50:29 AM »
That sounds a little bit like a coach excuse for a  "3rd liner": you have same touches during practices so if you sit during the game it's fine.
But the game is a test and some skills and hockey IQ can develop only during competitive games. Ultimately - it's about a game. Otherwise - we can stop playing any games and just concentrate on practices.

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Re: PW AA 2019-2020
« Reply #168 on: October 03, 2019, 10:15:58 AM »
That sounds a little bit like a coach excuse for a  "3rd liner": you have same touches during practices so if you sit during the game it's fine.
But the game is a test and some skills and hockey IQ can develop only during competitive games. Ultimately - it's about a game. Otherwise - we can stop playing any games and just concentrate on practices.


So to use your analogy if a kid gets 100% on his test then he/she should be the next grade and that much of what they learned in studying is really for the stupid kids or "3rd Liners"   You'r right no one wants to play a game 15-0, but that happens here in CA, MA, MN, and everywhere.  But statistically it will only happen in 25% or less of the games based on the number of teams.  I hope my kid gets a 100% on 25% of his grades and if it happens even more than dang I'm pretty happy.


Lets get on to complaining about refs and dirty hits.  Hurry up CAHA weekend, I'm sure some bad stuff will happen.... ;D

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Re: PW AA 2019-2020
« Reply #169 on: October 03, 2019, 11:20:49 AM »
That 25% statistics (or whatever the reality brings) could have been avoided/improved if CAHA did... no more of that word as people do not understand it if that is not another letter.
Enough on that - I agree.

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Re: PW AA 2019-2020
« Reply #170 on: October 03, 2019, 11:41:08 AM »

Which venue is the toughest this weekend? Vacaville or riverside?


Who shines? Who sinks? 

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Re: PW AA 2019-2020
« Reply #171 on: October 03, 2019, 11:56:20 AM »
That sounds a little bit like a coach excuse for a  "3rd liner": you have same touches during practices so if you sit during the game it's fine.
But the game is a test and some skills and hockey IQ can develop only during competitive games. Ultimately - it's about a game. Otherwise - we can stop playing any games and just concentrate on practices.
Don't agree that hockey IQ can only develop during games but, yes, competitive instincts, full checking at Bantam and beyond, and hockey IQ develop best in games.   

I'm not a coach and my son has had coaches who have cut back on his ice time for seemingly no rational reason.   Still, in retrospect it is part of the process and as a coach in another sport, I also had biases and didn't play some players who might have deserved more time on the pitch.

My sense remains that games are for parental entertainment.  It kind of justifies the high costs of the sport.  The angst about an extra A or flighting etc. seems excessive.   As our son's youth hockey career winds down, perspective may change. 

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Re: PW AA 2019-2020
« Reply #172 on: October 03, 2019, 01:03:21 PM »

Which venue is the toughest this weekend? Vacaville or riverside?


Who shines? Who sinks?


Vacaville has 3 of the top 5 teams.  Those games will be more interesting than most of the games in Riverside.

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Re: PW AA 2019-2020
« Reply #173 on: October 03, 2019, 03:42:15 PM »
A lot of Riverside games will be your 25% blowouts, and yes, Vacaville is almost a Flight I venue this weekend

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Re: PW AA 2019-2020
« Reply #174 on: October 03, 2019, 03:44:41 PM »
Though Riverside will have my attention, I'll be watching Vacaville closely.  As stated, three of the top five teams will be there.  To me the most telling game will be GSE1 versus Ducks1 at 0600.  That is a potential 1 v. 2 matchup right out of the gate and should have implications for the rest of us!
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Re: PW AA 2019-2020
« Reply #175 on: October 03, 2019, 04:14:35 PM »
Golden Knight don't count out our Kings 1 team or ID 1.   The cream will rise to the top at the end of the year!

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Re: PW AA 2019-2020
« Reply #176 on: October 03, 2019, 05:07:07 PM »
“My sense remains that games are for parental entertainment.”
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[/size]There’s a lot of truth to that PW and below, but if your kid thinks that way on Day 1 of Bantams he/she should quit immediately to avoid long and expensive hospital visits.

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Re: PW AA 2019-2020
« Reply #177 on: October 04, 2019, 06:56:24 PM »
GSE2 beat GSE1 4:2

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Re: PW AA 2019-2020
« Reply #178 on: October 04, 2019, 10:29:41 PM »
Though Riverside will have my attention, I'll be watching Vacaville closely.  As stated, three of the top five teams will be there.  To me the most telling game will be GSE1 versus Ducks1 at 0600.  That is a potential 1 v. 2 matchup right out of the gate and should have implications for the rest of us!


GSE 2 beat 1. As one parent told me GSE is not GSE1 GSE2 but GSE North and South named 1 and 2.


So is GSE 2 (North) stronger?


Perhaps Ducks V GSE2 will be better match up?




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Re: PW AA 2019-2020
« Reply #179 on: October 05, 2019, 08:37:03 AM »
JD1 beat GSE1 2:1 in a sloppy game


GSE2 tied Bears 4:4