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Re: PW AA 2019-2020
« Reply #285 on: November 09, 2019, 11:29:01 AM »
So far I'm impressed by the Heat (as predicted) and Goldrush 1!!

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Re: PW AA 2019-2020
« Reply #286 on: November 09, 2019, 05:45:51 PM »
CAHA has corrected their scoring error on the GSE-1 v Goldrush1 game today, from the erroneous 8-1 Goldrush1 win to the accurate 7-1 GSE1 win.


While here, for those that predicted yesterday’s ID1-GSE1 game would end in a 2-2 tie; nice!
-JAHP & HockeyDad07


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« Last Edit: November 09, 2019, 06:45:58 PM by ChainGun105 »

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Re: PW AA 2019-2020
« Reply #287 on: November 10, 2019, 06:27:48 PM »
I'll get to rankings tomorrow, but wanted to touch on two BIG surprises.  First, how about those Flyers!!!  Beating ID1 in a definitive way was unexpected.  Great work to Valencia!  Secondly, I'm a little surprised with the relative ease the Ducks seemed to have with the Bears.  I would have thought the Bears would have risen to the challenge of playing the de-facto number one.  Did anyone see it?  Was it a Sunday stroll or was it a game?  The Bears are a disappointing team for me.  Tons of talent that seem to pull in different directions.  I'm betting they can be a contender in the Spring of they get it together.


For now, Ducks are on top. 

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Re: PW AA 2019-2020
« Reply #288 on: November 10, 2019, 08:47:17 PM »
I saw the game. That is just a really good team. They took everyone apart with ease all weekend. They were up 3-0, then it was 3-2 and they just pushed a button. The flyer ID2 game wasn’t “with ease.” I saw that as well, Flyers went up 2-0 and were then losing 3-2. It was a crazy game.

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Re: PW AA 2019-2020
« Reply #289 on: November 11, 2019, 04:50:40 AM »
So here is the summary of the predictions, it was super close. Alfirst and JAHP each had 10 games ( with closest spread predictions) followed by HockeyDad and MHR at 9 each. Overall the lowest spread differential went to JAHP (sorry, this seems self-promotive... not intentional) at 16 'overall goals differential', followed by MHR at 21.1, HockeyDad at 23, and Alfirst at 32. Also because GR2 is in the 2009 (Squirt) rankings, their MHR score needed to be estimated. I put them at an 89 just as a very rough estimate of where they would be if included in 2007 Tier II rankings. Thanks for participating Alfirst and HockeyDad!

HomeVisitorActual sprdAlf sprdAlf diffJAHP sprdJAHP diffHDad sprdHDad diffMHR sprdMHR diff
Jr. Ducks(1)5Jr. Flyers1
4
3
1
-1
5
3
1
1.4
2.6
Mariners1OC Hockey2
-1
1
-2
-2
1
-3
2
-2.1
1.1
Jr. Reign(1)0Jr. Kings(2)1
-1
3
-4
4
-5
2
-3
1.4
-2.4
Jr. Sharks(1)2Goldrush(1)6
-4
-2
-2
-4
0
-2
-2
-1.7
-2.3
Jr. Ice Dogs(1)2Eagles(1)2
0
2
-2
0
0
0
0
0.9
-0.9
Eagles(2)5Goldrush(2)3
2
4
-2
6
-4
2
0
2.5
-0.5
Mariners2Jr. Reign(1)5
-3
-3
0
-5
2
-4
1
-1.8
-1.2
Jr. Flyers2Heat5
-3
1
-4
3
-6
1
-4
2.3
-5.3
Goldrush(1)1Eagles(1)7
-6
-5
-1
-2
-4
-6
0
-4.0
-2.0
Eagles(2)2Jr. Ice Dogs(1)4
-2
2
-4
2
-4
2
-4
0.3
-2.3
Goldrush(2)3Jr. Sharks(1)2
1
4
-3
2
-1
5
-4
4.5
-3.5
Jr. Kings(1)3Bears5
-2
2
-4
3
-5
3
-5
1.0
-3.0
Jr. Ice Dogs(2)0Jr. Ducks(1)10
-10
-6
-4
-3
-7
-5
-5
-3.5
-6.5
Mariners0Jr. Gulls(1)2
-2
-3
1
-4
2
-3
1
-4.1
2.1
Jr. Sharks(1)1Jr. Ice Dogs(1)4
-3
-4
1
-7
4
-7
4
-6.7
3.7
Eagles(2)6Goldrush(1)3
3
6
-3
3
0
8
-5
5.2
-2.2
Bears5Jr. Kings(2)1
4
5
-1
2
2
5
-1
4.3
-0.3
Eagles(1)5Goldrush(2)0
5
3
2
3
2
3
2
1.2
3.8
OC Hockey6Heat6
0
-5
5
-4
4
-4
4
-1.9
1.9
Jr. Gulls(1)2Jr. Ducks(1)8
-6
-6
0
-4
-2
-5
-1
-3.6
-2.4
Jr. Ice Dogs(1)5Jr. Flyers8
-3
1
-4
0
-3
2
-5
0.2
-3.2
Bears4Jr. Ice Dogs(2)1
3
3
0
1
2
3
0
0.4
2.6
Eagles(2)3Jr. Kings(1)6
-3
2
-5
-1
-2
1
-4
1.1
-4.1
Jr. Reign(1)2Jr. Sharks(1)4
-2
4
-6
6
-8
4
-6
1.9
-3.9
Eagles(1)8Jr. Kings(2)0
8
5
3
5
3
7
1
5.2
2.8
Goldrush(1)3Goldrush(2)1
2
-3
5
0
2
-4
6
-2.8
4.8
Jr. Gulls(1)2Jr. Ice Dogs(2)3
-1
1
-2
-2
1
-2
1
-0.2
-0.8
Bears2Jr. Ducks(1)7
-5
-3
-2
-2
-3
-2
-3
-3.1
-2.0
OC Hockey6Jr. Reign(1)1
5
-3
8
-4
9
-3
8
0.3
4.7
Heat2Jr. Kings(1)6
-4[/t][/t]
-1
-3
-3
-1
-2
-2
-1.7
-2.3
TOTAL Spread Diff.
-24
8
-32
-8
-16
-1
-23
-2.9
-21.1
# best predictions
10
10
9
9
 

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Re: PW AA 2019-2020
« Reply #290 on: November 11, 2019, 09:25:03 AM »
Ducks seem to be class of the group, then a group where it depends which team of shows up and then another drop off. 
Ducks are deep and consistent. 

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Re: PW AA 2019-2020
« Reply #291 on: November 11, 2019, 04:39:24 PM »
There were some curious results this past weekend.  Based on our two points of reference, here's our updated list:


1. Ducks 1
2. GSE 1
3. ID 1
4. Flyers
5. Kings 1
6. GSE 2
7. Heat
8. Bears
9. ID 2
10. Goldrush 1


Thoughts??

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Re: PW AA 2019-2020
« Reply #292 on: November 11, 2019, 05:07:46 PM »
Golden Knight...  You’ve rated the Flyers & Heat too high based off this pasted CAHA weekend...  Flyers upset ID1.  Heat beat the Flyers.   Didn’t show up for OCHC.  Got lucky they tied, should off lost?  Flyers are good but not quite at the level of JD1, GSE1 or our Kings1...

OCHockeyDad07

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Re: PW AA 2019-2020
« Reply #293 on: November 11, 2019, 05:16:46 PM »
There were some curious results this past weekend.  Based on our two points of reference, here's our updated list:


1. Ducks 1
2. GSE 1
3. ID 1
4. Flyers
5. Kings 1
6. GSE 2
7. Heat
8. Bears
9. ID 2
10. Goldrush 1


Thoughts??


Based on CAHA games so far, Flyers are 1-3 vs the top 8.  Not quite at the top 4 level I’d say...

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Re: PW AA 2019-2020
« Reply #294 on: November 11, 2019, 05:37:12 PM »
Here are the top 8 records against each other for CAHA games (results are similar considering all games against each other):

GSE (2)       2-2-1
Heat            1-3
GSE (1)       2-3-1
Kings (1)     3-1
Ducks          4-0
ID (1)          1-1-1
Bears           1-2-1
Flyers          1-3

Seems Heat and Flyers should be closer to 7 and 8.

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Re: PW AA 2019-2020
« Reply #295 on: November 11, 2019, 05:39:58 PM »
OC Hockey Dad 07...  Based off your rankings your too generous....  Please get back to reality!!!

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Re: PW AA 2019-2020
« Reply #296 on: November 11, 2019, 05:43:52 PM »
OC Hockey Dad 07...  Based off your rankings your too generous....  Please get back to reality!!!


I was just listing the records, in random order.  No ranking was intended by the ordering.


My only statement regarding ranking was Heat and Flyers should be 7 and 8.

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Re: PW AA 2019-2020
« Reply #297 on: November 11, 2019, 05:58:25 PM »
OC Hockey Dad 07...  Thank you for reconfirming that!


My rankings to date: JD1, Jr K1, GSE 1...  Everyone else needs to be more consistent until I give them serious consideration.


Just another hockey parent...  Sorry to ruin your impressive stats you posted.  “Job well done”

Golden Knight

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Re: PW AA 2019-2020
« Reply #298 on: November 11, 2019, 07:55:24 PM »
Golden Knight...  You’ve rated the Flyers & Heat too high based off this pasted CAHA weekend...  Flyers upset ID1.  Heat beat the Flyers.   Didn’t show up for OCHC.  Got lucky they tied, should off lost?  Flyers are good but not quite at the level of JD1, GSE1 or our Kings1...


Kings 1 also lost to the AAA 08 Ducks.  In my mind, this disqualifies them from a top spot.  Also, as previously stated, the Kings are one of the teams that have a Jekyl/Hyde complex.  Having seen them play I remain unconvinced that they can play team hockey. 


Flyers are a  better team than Kings 1.  The Heat are also trending up.   Both teams have shown they can compete.  From what I've seen, the toughest teams are Ducks, ID1, GSE 1 and 2, Flyers, and Heat.  Sorry 2 Cups, your Kings aren't passing (literally) the eye test.

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Re: PW AA 2019-2020
« Reply #299 on: November 11, 2019, 08:34:54 PM »
Golden Knight...  You’ve rated the Flyers & Heat too high based off this pasted CAHA weekend...  Flyers upset ID1.  Heat beat the Flyers.   Didn’t show up for OCHC.  Got lucky they tied, should off lost?  Flyers are good but not quite at the level of JD1, GSE1 or our Kings1...


Kings 1 also lost to the AAA 08 Ducks.  In my mind, this disqualifies them from a top spot.  Also, as previously stated, the Kings are one of the teams that have a Jekyl/Hyde complex.  Having seen them play I remain unconvinced that they can play team hockey. 


Flyers are a  better team than Kings 1.  The Heat are also trending up.   Both teams have shown they can compete.  From what I've seen, the toughest teams are Ducks, ID1, GSE 1 and 2, Flyers, and Heat.  Sorry 2 Cups, your Kings aren't passing (literally) the eye test.


No one can take that top 6 seriously.  You have the 2 worst of the top 8 based on CAHA games. 


Certainly Kings 1 belong in the top, they beat Flyers, Heat and GSE (2), 3 from your top 6.