Author Topic: Tryouts are pushed agaoin  (Read 15337 times)

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Re: Tryouts are pushed agaoin
« Reply #196 on: September 15, 2020, 06:00:26 AM »
A tragic story. Turns out the coach took sleeping pills (I guess to go to sleep while feeling like crap) while he had Covid. A terrible idea from a respiratory point of view. But he was pretty clearly in bad shape. Really sad.


But before we all take this an an indication that there is no way to do anything safely...



He coached for the Texas Warriors. Here are their Covid rules:


https://www.texaswarriors.org/news_article/show/1122406


They read like an organization just trying to skirt the public health office and keep quiet. Note the part about if you post to facebook about a player or coach having Covid you will be suspended for a year. Also that if 3 kids are caught without masks they will be suspended for a game on successive games (because I guess it's more important to play than enforce).


But here is the kicker....


“20% rule is still in place – If 20% of a team is infected at the same time there will be a 14 day shutdown of the team. We understand that the health department is saying that even one positive result should result in the shut down of a team but we will be adhering to the league rule.”

That's a league rule. You could have 3 or 4 kids with Covid who had been practicing and playing with your team, and they would be FINE with you keeping playing, and potentially using asymptomatic carriers in a competitive game against other teams. Just make sure those 3 or 4 that are showing symptoms stay at home.

That's nuts. No wonder their league has had 31 cases.

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Re: Tryouts are pushed agaoin
« Reply #197 on: September 15, 2020, 08:45:31 AM »
Now just imagine going to a tournament in Pheonix and playing a few of those teams a couple times.  You can run your team and run a tight covid ship, but you have no control over the other team and what rules govern their practice/play

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Re: Tryouts are pushed agaoin
« Reply #198 on: September 15, 2020, 09:24:00 AM »
Now just imagine going to a tournament in Pheonix and playing a few of those teams a couple times.  You can run your team and run a tight covid ship, but you have no control over the other team and what rules govern their practice/play


It almost sounds like jumping in your car and being a defensive driver on the CA freeway system. 

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Re: Tryouts are pushed agaoin
« Reply #199 on: September 15, 2020, 10:52:57 AM »
Sure.


If 1 in 16 cars (i.e. the number of teams at a tournament) that you drove by had the potential to cause your car to burst into flames.


This is an area where the leagues should be 'stepping up' and creating some standard prevention criteria for admission into tournaments.

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Re: Tryouts are pushed agaoin
« Reply #200 on: September 15, 2020, 06:50:26 PM »
didn't jd and jk midgets just return from omaha where they played the dallas jr stars?

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Re: Tryouts are pushed agaoin
« Reply #201 on: September 16, 2020, 11:41:45 AM »
didn't jd and jk midgets just return from omaha where they played the dallas jr stars?


At this point, in Midget AAA, from 50-60% of all the teams have already played as many as 10 games.  That includes the Dallas Stars Elite, who played both the JK's and JD's, and are from the Dallas area.
« Last Edit: September 16, 2020, 11:43:49 AM by lcadad »

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Re: Tryouts are pushed agaoin
« Reply #202 on: September 16, 2020, 01:09:47 PM »
Sure.


If 1 in 16 cars (i.e. the number of teams at a tournament) that you drove by had the potential to cause your car to burst into flames.


This is an area where the leagues should be 'stepping up' and creating some standard prevention criteria for admission into tournaments.


I'd actually call it about 240 cars(15 players per team) with about a 99.8% chance or better if your one of those drivers you'll make it home. 


Any mention as to how many sleeping pills he took?  1, 2, 6, or 10? 


As for the AAA players that recently played and are coming back home, if you're that concerned take another 7 months off cause those boy will all be bouncing around to you local facilities getting their ice time in. 

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Re: Tryouts are pushed agaoin
« Reply #203 on: September 16, 2020, 11:03:24 PM »
Sure.


If 1 in 16 cars (i.e. the number of teams at a tournament) that you drove by had the potential to cause your car to burst into flames.


This is an area where the leagues should be 'stepping up' and creating some standard prevention criteria for admission into tournaments.


I'd actually call it about 240 cars(15 players per team) with about a 99.8% chance or better if your one of those drivers you'll make it home. 


Any mention as to how many sleeping pills he took?  1, 2, 6, or 10? 


As for the AAA players that recently played and are coming back home, if you're that concerned take another 7 months off cause those boy will all be bouncing around to you local facilities getting their ice time in.


Actually about 100% if you're talking about the kids.  More people under 20 years of age have died from seasonal flu than Covid since March (i.e., during flu "off-season").  Since ice hockey is played mainly during the height of "flu season," it sounds like the whole hockey experiment in California was just a big mistake.  It's never too late to make Solitaire our state sport.  Checkers is probably too much of a contact sport for us.




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Re: Tryouts are pushed agaoin
« Reply #204 on: September 17, 2020, 08:26:45 AM »
I know, it should not matter about indirect exposure.   That wedding in New England - 175 people ended up with it, i think 6 died. Some some of the dead did not even go to the wedding, they were simply hangin doing their thing.  Eh, but as long as you are not impacted directly, its ok - well its not ok. because you are inconvenienced by this world wide "experiment"


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Re: Tryouts are pushed agaoin
« Reply #205 on: September 17, 2020, 09:57:18 AM »
I'd urge that if you cannot connect your point to hockey that you post it elsewhere.  On a wedding planning site perhaps? The world is a dangerous place. Hockey is not a proven a vector for your fears.
« Last Edit: September 17, 2020, 09:59:26 AM by Landshark »

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Re: Tryouts are pushed agaoin
« Reply #206 on: September 17, 2020, 10:25:39 PM »
I know, it should not matter about indirect exposure.   That wedding in New England - 175 people ended up with it, i think 6 died. Some some of the dead did not even go to the wedding, they were simply hangin doing their thing.  Eh, but as long as you are not impacted directly, its ok - well its not ok. because you are inconvenienced by this world wide "experiment"


I agree that sick people shouldn't hang around long-term care homes full of terminally ill elderly people, which is what you're referring to there.  Now, do you have a point related to hockey?

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Re: Tryouts are pushed agaoin
« Reply #207 on: September 18, 2020, 07:53:25 PM »
To be fair, the topic of this latest discussion was 31 youth hockey players in Texas getting Covid, and a coach dying at death that was at least related to it. I also know kids on two teams at private school that have been quarantined for covid exposure. Not hard to find news of other tournaments beset with it too.


There are safe ways to play and practice. And ways that are not safe. That was the discussion.


Think it's just like the flu? Talk to my dead uncle :-(