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Next up! Tier II tryouts
« on: May 23, 2017, 08:39:27 AM »
So.  What is the scuttlebutt here?  I thought the Wave would be very strong, but they lost a great player to Tier I.  The JD may get a lot stronger with a number of their Tier I players perhaps going to them or maybe OC or maybe the Wave?  I heard a lot of these kids might try 18U.  Will the JK even have a team this year?  What's up with that?  One of the two biggest youth hockey clubs in So. Cal without a 16UAA team?  I can just imagine all the phone calls and emails going around looking for the best spots.  So...I'm interested in hearing who y'all think will be the strongest teams so I can send my kid to their pre-tryout skates.  Good luck to all!   

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Re: Next up! Tier II tryouts
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2017, 09:53:00 AM »
Ducks and OC Skates look good w 40 plus skaters and 6 goalies (mostly same kids though)...wave has been interesting...can't read whats going on there...different group of kids but low turnout. Jr Kings have put out zero info....maybe they are going to "attempt" to have a AA team and then when they can't field one...they can put all the effort into the AAA teams. Lots of kids not playing high school league anymore.     

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Re: Next up! Tier II tryouts
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2017, 11:50:27 AM »
So.  What is the scuttlebutt here?  I thought the Wave would be very strong, but they lost a great player to Tier I.  The JD may get a lot stronger with a number of their Tier I players perhaps going to them or maybe OC or maybe the Wave?  I heard a lot of these kids might try 18U.  Will the JK even have a team this year?  What's up with that?  One of the two biggest youth hockey clubs in So. Cal without a 16UAA team?  I can just imagine all the phone calls and emails going around looking for the best spots.  So...I'm interested in hearing who y'all think will be the strongest teams so I can send my kid to their pre-tryout skates.  Good luck to all!


So the Wave wont be strong since they lost 1-strong Player to AAA?????   ??? ??? ???

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Re: Next up! Tier II tryouts
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2017, 12:41:21 PM »

Tryout Advice:  Go for Ice Time....



Late Bloomers in Hockey Very Common
01/28/2014, 7:30am CST
By USA Hockey


So you didn’t make the Bantam A team or you missed the cut for the high school varsity squad. Maybe you have to play another year of Midget Major hockey because no junior team will give you a shot yet.
So what? Late bloomers are common in hockey.
Mike Snee is the executive director of College Hockey, Inc. When prospective college hockey players attend their seminars, most parents have the same question for the NCAA coaches in attendance.
Where should my kid play before going to college?
There are a lot of options out there, but there is always one answer.
“Play where you’re going to be on the ice,” Snee said. “What those coaches are stressing is more ice time in key situations is better for development rather than seeing minimal ice time or sitting in the press box.”
This doesn’t only apply for high-end recruits. It’s sound advice for every hockey player, at every age, at every skill level. It’s not about playing for the best possible team. It’s about ice time, puck touches and development.
On the Bubble?
For most teams during tryouts, there are “bubble” players, who might almost be good enough for the top-tier team but are perhaps better suited with the lower-tier team. This player often has a better year developmentally with the lower-tier team because they see more ice time and become a more impactful player at that level.
Is it better to be on the power play for the B team or the fourth line for the A team? If you have the puck on your stick more, you have a better chance to become a better player.
Growth Spurts
Most athletes are still developing physically well into their 20s. Players at 14U/16U have not yet reached their peak potential. They might have just scratched the surface. That can all be deceiving when it comes to the hockey world, as young players are often drafted into the NHL at the age of 18. Most basketball and football players aren’t drafted until their early 20s, giving them a few extra years of prime physical development.
Growth spurts happen when they happen. It should also be taken into account when these growth spurts are occurring. A young, rapidly growing athlete may experience dips in coordination during these periods. That’s completely normal. It will just take time to adjust.
Don’t Hit the Panic Button
Players, parents and coaches often rush to judgment. Development comes at a different pace for every growing athlete.
“This is the constant battle in youth athletics today – early measurement of where a player is at relative to their peers,” Snee said. “They’re drawing too many conclusions too quickly.”
Oftentimes coaches will see one 12-year-old make the C-team and another make the A-team, only to watch those roles reverse just a few years later.
Late Bloomers are Everywhere – Even in the Pros
Ryan McDonagh didn’t make the A team his first year as a Squirt. All of his friends did, but he didn’t. He was devastated. Now, the New York Rangers defenseman and Minnesota native is an Olympian.
Danny DeKeyser played Midget Major through 18U. He then had to play Tier 2 junior hockey before the United States Hockey League gave him a shot. He went undrafted but earned a spot at Western Michigan University, where he flourished. As he grew physically and developed as a player, NHL teams came pounding on his door looking to sign him as a free agent.
Ultimately he chose to sign with the Detroit Red Wings, where he currently sees big minutes as a top-four defenseman and is widely considered a rising talent in pro hockey.
“He’s now playing an important role with the Red Wings on the blue line and four or five years ago there wasn’t one team in the NHL that was willing to make him their seventh-round draft pick,” Snee said.
This is becoming common, thanks to college hockey. As of today, 30 percent of NHLers played college hockey. Of those 30 percent, 20 percent of them were not drafted.
“So when they were 18 years old, all 30 NHL teams passed over them seven times each,” Snee said. “And those teams chose many players who never played in the NHL.”
It’s Not a Sprint
Players, parents and coaches should not rush development. It won’t work. Learn and grow at your own pace. More success equals more confidence, which equals more fun.
Understandably, it can be difficult for kids – and parents – to accept the slower development path. But don’t prematurely jump up to the next level if you aren’t ready.
“Those are good goals to have and admirable qualities, but it’s a long road,” Snee said. “It’s not a sprint. Put yourself in a situation where you can ensure you’re giving yourself the best opportunity to reach your full potential.”

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Re: Next up! Tier II tryouts
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2017, 02:02:18 PM »
Amen to that! Also, the Wave will be fine


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Re: Next up! Tier II tryouts
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2017, 07:46:51 PM »
Cog above mentions, "lots of Kids not playing high school anymore".
What happened there?
Seems like Ducks high school league is thriving.
JK having problems?
Thx!

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Re: Next up! Tier II tryouts
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2017, 07:20:29 AM »
Kings folded the Destroyers and made a new team "Stingrays" but took some of the area schools away and gave to El Segundo Strikers . Only 5-6 of returning Varsity tried out (only 1 kid aged out of last years varsity team) ....many are looking to play 16/18 AA and 1 signed AAA...look around at the skates and quite a few 99/00 seniors stuck on JV only teams in Ducks league looking for higher level of play as well...   

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Re: Next up! Tier II tryouts
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2017, 12:30:57 PM »

So the Wave wont be strong since they lost 1-strong Player to AAA? ??? ?   ??? ??? ???



I was only making the point that the Wave lost one of its best players while the JD might pick up 4-6 former AAA players.  The Wave always fields a strong team.  Depending on where those AAA players wind up will make some team a lot stronger.  Maybe they'll go to the Wave!  Good luck to all! 

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Re: Next up! Tier II tryouts
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2017, 01:56:27 PM »
Does anyone have any idea what the Kings are doing? They seem to be putting Zero effort into 16/18 AA...also any word on San Diego teams? Flyers?

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Re: Next up! Tier II tryouts
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2017, 06:51:34 PM »
The Flyers will have 16U and I have heard that a 18U is expected as well.

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Re: Next up! Tier II tryouts
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2017, 06:39:55 AM »
Great article on development. I would only add that kids go through weird growth spurts, especially if they are larger. We called it the 'baby Hughie' phase, where they spill things and knock things over (more than usual) - it's why larger players even into the NHL can take longer to put it all together in terms of hand-eye coordination and general finesse.


As for the NHLs early drafting -- very few players go directly into the NHL, the wise thing is to let them go back to their teams. Maybe give a taste if your team is out of the playoffs. Even Montreal, who are managed by Don Cherry's dumber cousin, let Sergachev go back to the Spitfires and he is contributioning big time.



As for WAVE, I could write a book -- but I won't.  I overheard someone in Hockey Giant yesterday complaining about WAVE players taking over a decent team. Wave will be fine as long as Crash doesn't post anything.


That said, check out Carmen Starr tournament this weekend at Toyota and environs. Going to be a fun time. The deck is being re-shuffled in ways you won't believe.




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Re: Next up! Tier II tryouts
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2017, 08:02:42 AM »
The Wave team is a very tight group most of the boys have been together 3 plus years now and will make a serious run at Nationals I believe, wonder if they will be even taking anyone onto the team at tryouts should be interesting? Heard they have a 20 man roster for the Memorial tournament in Riverside, I tried to see if my kid could jump on for Memorial day since we did spend 2 years with them, but they are full... Had to jump on another team just so kid could play... ;)

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Re: Next up! Tier II tryouts
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2017, 12:56:03 PM »
Congrats to the Wave team for easily winning the Wildcats/Reign tournament over the weekend.  The Wave was either incredibly strong, or the competition very weak...the scores all indicated blowout wins.   

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« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2017, 01:18:49 PM »
Congrats to the Wave team for easily winning the Wildcats/Reign tournament over the weekend.  The Wave was either incredibly strong, or the competition very weak...the scores all indicated blowout wins.




For the Wave team it was a weak tournament for them to be playing in especially with some of the players they picked up. They probably could had more competition in the Elite division

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Re: Next up! Tier II tryouts
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2017, 01:37:18 PM »
With Tryouts just around the corner, who is who?
Most coaches have been around for a while so they are known, but the OC coach is new.
Here are his hockey stats from hockeydb, he definitely has the resume as a player, and I saw he was running the Salmon Arm Silverbacks BCHL camp a few weeks back.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=110398

Any thoughts on a new young coach