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lcadad

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What Bantam AA Teams for 2019-2020?
« on: April 16, 2019, 04:50:17 AM »
Once again, people will have to start thinking about this, as tryouts for teams will most likely be the First weekend of June, June 7-9.

Bears1, Ducks1 & Saints1 would have to be early favorites. 

2019-2020 *Unofficial* List of Bantam AA Teams (SoCal)
ClubTeamCoachesHome RinkInfo
Bears1Torsson (h)Pickwick'05
Bears2Bubushyan (h)Pickwick'05/06
Condors2Mears (h)Bakersfield Ice'05/06
Ducks1Kohn (h)Great Ice Irvine'05
Ducks2Maxwell (h)Great Ice Irvine'06
Empire1(h) HamacherOntario Ice'05
Empire2(h) HamacherOntario Ice'06
Gulls2Babin (h)Escondido'05/06
Ice Dogs2Semenov (h)KHS'05/06
Kings1Tatavosian (h)El Segundo'05
Kings2(h)El Segundo'06
OCHC1Shand (h)Yorba Linda'05
Reign1Esdale(h)Riverside'05/06
Saints1Robinson (h)Carlsbad'05
Saints2Parker (h)Poway'06
ValenciaAASisak (h)Ice Station'05
Wave1Wada (h)East West Ice Palace'05
Wave2Epperly (h)East West Ice Palace'06

2019-2020 *Unofficial* List of Bantam AA Teams (NorCal)
ClubTeamCoachesHome RinkInfo
GSE North2Molotilov (h)Vacaville'05/06
GSE South1Morrissette (h)?'05/06
SharksAAGollete (h)Solar4 America Ice'05/06
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Re: What Bantam AA Teams for 2019-2020?
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2019, 10:38:19 PM »
So does anyone know what new crazy rules CAHA might have come up with for next season? Hopefully they change the 20 minute jamboree show. And hopefully they share their new rules before tryouts!
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Re: What Bantam AA Teams for 2019-2020?
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2019, 11:36:23 AM »
So does anyone know what new crazy rules CAHA might have come up with for next season? Hopefully they change the 20 minute jamboree show. And hopefully they share their new rules before tryouts!


No need for any changes. 
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Re: What Bantam AA Teams for 2019-2020?
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2019, 12:06:41 PM »
Pretty sure Ice Dogs will have an 05/06 AA team coached by Semenov

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Re: What Bantam AA Teams for 2019-2020?
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2019, 12:11:23 PM »
Pretty sure Ice Dogs will have an 05/06 AA team coached by Semenov


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Re: What Bantam AA Teams for 2019-2020?
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2019, 12:35:03 PM »
So does anyone know what new crazy rules CAHA might have come up with for next season? Hopefully they change the 20 minute jamboree show. And hopefully they share their new rules before tryouts!


No need for any changes. 
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CAHA has created the perfect Tier2 system and satisfaction is at an all time high


Lol! Get out! They really are oblivious!

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Re: What Bantam AA Teams for 2019-2020?
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2019, 08:15:49 PM »
Where is everyone playing at for Memorial tournaments? And does anyone what to make any early predictions?

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Re: What Bantam AA Teams for 2019-2020?
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2019, 01:41:41 PM »
Where is everyone playing at for Memorial tournaments? And does anyone what to make any early predictions?


Prediction?




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Re: What Bantam AA Teams for 2019-2020?
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2019, 11:00:38 PM »
Memorial Day seems less and less a predictor of anything.  Kids play on teams they aren't going to play for in the fall, or don't play tournaments at all like the Bears, and in some cases are even playing for multiple teams.   In many cases the teams are part of a spring clinic series.

Whatever the results end up being haven't predicted a whole lot, and you can take this with a huge grain of salt, but what I saw the last few years is that a lot of the predominantly minor year teams have played at the Rinks, and major year teams have played in Carmen Starr.  Carmen Starr, as one parent reminded me recently, has become a tour of southland rinks.  I mean who doesn't want to play a morning game at TSC and an afternoon game at KHS? 

The AAA division (which is actually AA really) has exactly 2 Socal teams this year.  Oddly the AA/A division is also a wild mix of teams, with 2 GSE teams entered this season.  At the end of the day, some kids play some hockey, there will be some tremendous mismatches, you have in house players playing with AAA's here and there, and it seems that people care less and less about it, which seems different than in the way it was viewed in years past, but perhaps that's also because by Bantam families aren't as easily mislead as to the relative importance of these things as they may have been when their kids were younger.




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Re: What Bantam AA Teams for 2019-2020?
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2019, 11:29:58 AM »
A few last minute updates:

-Wada decided not to go forward with a team.  There is still the other Wave team coached by Epperly
-Perhaps in relation to the Shattuck partnership the Mariners suddenly announced a AA team.  I find it unlikely, but you never know
-I doubt that Bakersfield will have a viable AA team given that a number of their best Bantam players will be playing elsewhere as in years past
-I think Empire will have one 05/06 team

My best guess on final numbers is 16-17 teams, but perhaps a team will emerge from Norcal that gets them to 4?

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Re: What Bantam AA Teams for 2019-2020?
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2019, 02:20:39 PM »
At the Country Bear Jamboree in SJ there will be 21 Teams
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2019-2020 Pre-Jamboree List of Bantam AA Teams (NorCal)  (4 Teams)
ClubTeamCoachesHome RinkInfo
BlackhawksAAAlonzo, Sr (h)Sharks Ice Fremont'05
GSE North2Molotilov (h)Vacaville'05/06
GSE South1Morrissette (h)?'05/06
SharksAAGollete (h)Solar4 America Ice'05/06

2019-2020 Pre-Jamboree List of Bantam AA Teams (SoCal) (17 Teams)
ClubTeamCoachesHome RinkInfo
Bears1Torsson (h)Pickwick'05
Bears2Bubushyan (h)Pickwick'05/06
CondorsAAMears (h)Bakersfield Ice'05/06
Ducks1Kohn (h)Great Ice Irvine'05
Ducks2Maxwell (h)Great Ice Irvine'06
EmpireAA(h) HamacherOntario Ice'06
Gulls1Babin (h)Escondido'05
Gulls2Carlyle (h)Escondido'06
Ice Dogs1Semenov (h)KHS'05
Kings1Tatavosian (h)El Segundo'05
Kings2Graham (h)El Segundo'06
OCHCAAShand (h)Yorba Linda'05
Reign1Esdale (h)Riverside'05
Reign2Vychodil (h)Riverside'05/06
Saints1Robinson (h)Poway'05
ValenciaAASisak (h)Ice Station'05
WaveAAEpperly (h)East West Ice Palace'06

To be clear, the birth year designations are my unofficial understanding of the team makeup. 
- majority of the team is primarily '05
- majority of the team is primarily '06
- A substantial mix

An '05 team could have a few '06's and an '06 team could have a few '05's.  Obviously there are some pure minor year teams that tend to emerge and with success, may end up punching up into AAA tournaments during the season.  I would also expect that Bears1 and Saints will be playing up into '05 AAA as the season goes on.

With that said, there are some surprising and head scratching additions to the spring list.  In particular Reign2 and Gulls2 were unexpected additions.  In Norcal the Blackhawks have joined GSE and the Sharks, but I don't find that surprising as the '05 Blackhawks have been tier contenders as recently as the PWAA '05 year.
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Re: What Bantam AA Teams for 2019-2020?
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2019, 08:59:58 PM »
Looking at the above list, there are at least 5 teams that shouldn’t be playing AA at all. Any guesses on who will be flight 1?

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Re: What Bantam AA Teams for 2019-2020?
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2019, 12:08:18 AM »
Looking at the above list, there are at least 5 teams that shouldn’t be playing AA at all. Any guesses on who will be flight 1?

I'd like to see your list of the 5 teams you think should be dropped.  Would make for some interesting conversation I bet!

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Re: What Bantam AA Teams for 2019-2020?
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2019, 10:05:51 AM »
Condors, Ducks Maxwell, Jr Reign 2, Wave 06, and Empire 06 on the bubble.

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Re: What Bantam AA Teams for 2019-2020?
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2019, 11:27:48 AM »
Condors, Ducks Maxwell, Jr Reign 2, Wave 06, and Empire 06 on the bubble.


Interesting that pretty much all those teams are '06's.  What about Gulls2 and Sharks?


Sharks to my knowledge don't have a lot of returning '05's, and if you look at 2 years ago, when '05's were major year PWAA, the Sharks team was forced down after the Jamboree.  I'm wondering if this means that Sharks are also mainly an '06 team.


The Gulls had a pretty good Flight1 '05 team at the PWAA level, but from my understanding, that team essentially disbanded with some players going to the Saints and elsewhere. 


This goes to my contention that if CAHA wanted to actually fix this flight mess, and make things better for players and families, they would align Tier2 with Tier1 and create Major/Minor divisions. 


In the case of a team like the Condors, that hasn't had a Tier program in some years, I think it could be handled with some documentation from the club in regards to the roster and it's recent history, as well as a few "show me" games against known entities in the southland.  This used to be the purpose of pre-season games and to a degree voluntary participation in Labor Day tournaments.


The CAHA jamboree is like the US Airport screening system, where everyone now has to take off their shoes to go through scanners twice on any round trip, because one idiot failed to light off a jury rigged shoe bomb 18 years ago.