PW AA 2019-2020

[Golden Knight]

Golden Knight...  You’ve rated the Flyers & Heat too high based off this pasted CAHA weekend...  Flyers upset ID1.  Heat beat the Flyers.   Didn’t show up for OCHC.  Got lucky they tied, should off lost?  Flyers are good but not quite at the level of JD1, GSE1 or our Kings1...

Kings 1 also lost to the AAA 08 Ducks.  In my mind, this disqualifies them from a top spot.  Also, as previously stated, the Kings are one of the teams that have a Jekyl/Hyde complex.  Having seen them play I remain unconvinced that they can play team hockey. 


Flyers are a  better team than Kings 1.  The Heat are also trending up.   Both teams have shown they can compete.  From what I've seen, the toughest teams are Ducks, ID1, GSE 1 and 2, Flyers, and Heat.  Sorry 2 Cups, your Kings aren't passing (literally) the eye test.

No one can take that top 6 seriously.  You have the 2 worst of the top 8 based on CAHA games. 


Certainly Kings 1 belong in the top, they beat Flyers, Heat and GSE (2), 3 from your top 6.

Dont forget that not everyone has played a tough schedule yet in CAHA.  Beating up on the bottom teams is meaningless.  Losing to them is a problem.  Playing close games with them is also a problem.  Dont forget, Kings 1 has lost to the 08AAA Ducks TWICE.  That's not top five in my book.

[OCHockeyDad07]

Golden Knight...  You’ve rated the Flyers & Heat too high based off this pasted CAHA weekend...  Flyers upset ID1.  Heat beat the Flyers.   Didn’t show up for OCHC.  Got lucky they tied, should off lost?  Flyers are good but not quite at the level of JD1, GSE1 or our Kings1...

Kings 1 also lost to the AAA 08 Ducks.  In my mind, this disqualifies them from a top spot.  Also, as previously stated, the Kings are one of the teams that have a Jekyl/Hyde complex.  Having seen them play I remain unconvinced that they can play team hockey. 


Flyers are a  better team than Kings 1.  The Heat are also trending up.   Both teams have shown they can compete.  From what I've seen, the toughest teams are Ducks, ID1, GSE 1 and 2, Flyers, and Heat.  Sorry 2 Cups, your Kings aren't passing (literally) the eye test.

No one can take that top 6 seriously.  You have the 2 worst of the top 8 based on CAHA games. 


Certainly Kings 1 belong in the top, they beat Flyers, Heat and GSE (2), 3 from your top 6.

Dont forget that not everyone has played a tough schedule yet in CAHA.  Beating up on the bottom teams is meaningless.  Losing to them is a problem.  Playing close games with them is also a problem.  Dont forget, Kings 1 has lost to the 08AAA Ducks TWICE.  That's not top five in my book.

Have you looked at the scores, Kings are 3-1 in CAHA games against GSE 2, Flyers, Heat and Bears with a 20-12 goal differential.

[Golden Knight]

Golden Knight...  You’ve rated the Flyers & Heat too high based off this pasted CAHA weekend...  Flyers upset ID1.  Heat beat the Flyers.   Didn’t show up for OCHC.  Got lucky they tied, should off lost?  Flyers are good but not quite at the level of JD1, GSE1 or our Kings1...

Kings 1 also lost to the AAA 08 Ducks.  In my mind, this disqualifies them from a top spot.  Also, as previously stated, the Kings are one of the teams that have a Jekyl/Hyde complex.  Having seen them play I remain unconvinced that they can play team hockey. 


Flyers are a  better team than Kings 1.  The Heat are also trending up.   Both teams have shown they can compete.  From what I've seen, the toughest teams are Ducks, ID1, GSE 1 and 2, Flyers, and Heat.  Sorry 2 Cups, your Kings aren't passing (literally) the eye test.

No one can take that top 6 seriously.  You have the 2 worst of the top 8 based on CAHA games. 


Certainly Kings 1 belong in the top, they beat Flyers, Heat and GSE (2), 3 from your top 6.

Dont forget that not everyone has played a tough schedule yet in CAHA.  Beating up on the bottom teams is meaningless.  Losing to them is a problem.  Playing close games with them is also a problem.  Dont forget, Kings 1 has lost to the 08AAA Ducks TWICE.  That's not top five in my book.

Have you looked at the scores, Kings are 3-1 in CAHA games against GSE 2, Flyers, Heat and Bears with a 20-12 goal differential.

I have looked at the scores.  I even watched some of those games.  From what I saw, the Kings were lucky to come away with victories. As an objective observer, the Kings dont play with any level of teamwork.  In fact, the goals I saw scored were of the variety that people around me felt "lucky to get".


I predict the Kings lose more games to teams they shouldn't.  Then again, if they add their AAA players, maybe they wont  [size=78%]Only time will tell [/size]

[5lap5hot]

I agree with Golden Knight on the top 2.  Everyone else is a crap shoot.  We've seen teams beat good teams and lose or tie to teams that they should kill.  This is the problem with PW and why rankings early in the season should have a huge margin of error.  If you're talking Major Bantam AAA and AA and higher I'd agree more with the rankings.  Given it a few more games and I think the consistency or lack of it will rise to the surface.  At the end of the year, it is about who is on a roll.  Happens a lot at this age so don't count anyone out.

[ChainGun105]

OCHockey07: I believe you have GSE1 and GSE2 records in the top 8 switched; shouldn't they be 2-2-1 and 2-3-1 respectively?

SlapShot: For me, the stats bear out 4 things before getting to 'crap shoot'-land. 1) Ducks and Kings look to be 1 & 2 with solid all-around teams, GSE1 is brining the stout defense consistently and GSE2 is bringing the offense consistently.  Aside from that, only time will tell what 12-11 year olds show up in any given period...

My first impression of Top 8 rankings were:
- (1)Ducks, (2)Kings1, (3)GSE1, (4)Flyers, (5)ID, (6)GSE2, (7)Bears & (8)Heat

Then I focused on those games among what I found to be the top 8; disregarding anything not in-season, head to head among the top 8.  Looking at strength of schedule inside those 8, W&L's, their deltas and GAA, GFA and the net of the two.

Games left versus Top 8 (7 games to play):
- 1 left: GSE2
- 2 left: GSE1 
- 3 left: Ducks, Kings1, Flyers, Bears & Heat
- 4 left: ID1

Then: Who has played top 4 teams versus 5th-8th teams; noting:- Kings1: Have only played 1 top 5 opponent.   
- GSE1: Games left against #2 & #6 (otherwise they are L-L-T-W-W < consistent...)
- GSE2: Only 1 game left; the Flyers (otherwise L-L-T-L-W-W < nearly consistent...)
- ID1: Yet to play 1st & 2nd or 7th & 8th.

Then: *Within Top 8* - Goals For, Goals Against, and the net of the two.  1st, 2nd, and 3rd are:
- GAA:  #1-GSE1 (2),       #2-Ducks (2.5),    #3-Kings1 (3)    ---rest above 4
- GFA:  #1-Ducks (5.5),    #2-Kings1 (5),     #3-GSE2 (4.2)   ---rest 3.7 to 3
- Net:   #1-Ducks (3),       #2-Kings1 (2),     #3-GSE1 (0.8 )  ---rest are negative

When the dust settled, I have the following current rankings for Nov:
- (1)Ducks, (2)Kings1, (3)GSE1, (4)GSE2, (5)ID, (6)Flyers, (7)Bears & (8)Heat

For me, 1-3 & 7-8 are pretty straightforward.   GSE2, ID1 & the Flyers are in the middle somewhere. 
- I picked GSE2 4th because they have played the top 5 teams and still have a -0.5 Net from GFA-GAA. 
- l put the Flyers in 6th based on their tied for last -1.75 Net. 
- Even though ID1 beat GSE2, I placed them in 5th because they have yet to play the top two teams, already having a -0.33 Net. (Ducks & Kings1)
--- 4-6 could easily be a pick 'em...

I am not going to be guesstimating weekly scores, but I will guess end of season top 8 and their records...
1. Ducks 16-0
2. Kings1 12-2-2
3. GSE1 11-3-2
4. GSE2 11-4-1
5. ID1 11-4-1
6. Flyers 11-4-1
7. Bears 11-4-1
8. Heat 10-5-1

[OCHockeyDad07]

OCHockey07: I believe you have GSE1 and GSE2 records in the top 8 switched; shouldn't they be 2-2-1 and 2-3-1 respectively?

You are correct, GSE (2) is 2-3-1.  I got GSE (1) and GSE (2) mixed up.

[ShockDoctor]

I've seen almost all of the 12U AA teams play and my general take is that the coaching is poor. We're months into the season and I haven't noticed much improvement. Several teams have probably been coached up the rankings, but the majority look completely disorganized. And when I say that I mean they can't break out cleanly - in several different ways, they often seem to have no positional sense, or they simply rely on several skaters for the offense. Either way, IMHO this is the biggest drawback about youth hockey in CA. Maybe I'm wrong and the blame lies at the feet of the players, or maybe it's a club problem? How does everyone feel about their kids coaches?

[Golden Knight]

Kings 1 beat the Heat 5-4.  My sources tell me it was nervy for awhile and probably should have been a Heat victory.  I heard they were up 3-1 and let it slip away?  I also heard the Ducks beat Valencia 6-2 in a game that was never close.  My sources had amazing things to say about their 09 goalie?  Is that right, 09??  They told me that kid kept it reasonable whereas it could have been a blowout.


Any other scores?

[2 Cups in LA]

All it matters is Kings 1 got it done!  Rumor has it in the South Bay that OCHC gave the Bears a game today?  Apparently with a minute left in the 3rd period the Bears were only up 1 and ended up winning 5 to 3.


Does anyone know how the Ana Ice Doggies do?

[2 Cups in LA]

Shock Doctor PWAA is the new PWA with some exceptions to the rule!

[RonSwanson1]

My Sources told me:


Ice Dogs1 6-0 over Gulls
Ice Dogs2 5-3 over Goldrush1


These are very good sources I’m told

[2 Cups in LA]

Ron Swanson 1 “Thank you” for confirming that! 

[RonSwanson1]

You’re more than welcome... anything I can do to help this peewee A”a” board thriving

[Golden Knight]

golden Knight
What was interesting about the flyers ducks game was not that the flyers little  back up goalie did a decent job but what that game would have been like if the flyers real goalie had been in net. That was the surprising part. Not a shocker on ice dogs games.

Beer Leaguer,


Do you think the Flyers would have done better with their other goalie?  From what I was told, this game was different than their game in CAHA.  I heard last week was tight and that this week the Ducks were dominant.  Any truth in that?

[BFinny77]

Ducks came out an early lead and kept it. Both goalies played well and made some good saves. Definitely not as intense as their CAHA matchup from either team according to parents on both sides.