Author Topic: Corona virus  (Read 2888 times)

notTHATdad

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Re: Corona virus
« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2020, 01:14:40 PM »


Yes, South Korea was successful.
South Korea was testing 100k people a DAY. The entire population was wearing masks. They were hunting down all connections and isolating them.

They were also tracking everyone with mobile apps.

There are two strategies that work in the short term. Aggressive tracking and isolation of contacts, or aggressive social distancing. Most of this country is doing neither. Doing nothing until it is too late is the strategy that Italy took.

Which of those measures would work here? Which are under way? Which society do we more resemble, South Korea or Northern Italy?

This problem escalates in days, not weeks.


Hockey sophist

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Re: Corona virus
« Reply #31 on: March 19, 2020, 01:33:54 PM »
That's hilarious sophist.  Look where you get your information and you have the gall to make your presumptions about where I get mine???  I enjoy how you make this political, immediately.  Do you look at everyone through those lenses??  Do you compartmentalize all those you meet.  Really sad if you do.  I know that I can still love someone who listens to NPR or Fox News.  To fulfill your science requirement, I cited my source in case you missed this, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/   
If you took offense to chicken little, just know it was used in general terms.  I still think this doesn't warrant all the chaos and fear that is on display.  Look at the reactions I am getting just from making my opinion known on this board. 
Strawman and everyone else for that matter, look at the South Korea example.  #4 most when this broke, nowhere near that now without lockdown. 

https://www.aier.org/article/south-korea-preseved-open-infection-rates-are-falling/?fbclid=IwAR0N7Ut37DQrRJK66r-0r8cYBfMeW1UUxGu41IJVA8FsgTm_7MwSzsigeoo


Nice job of selective perception, Fowlmood!     Also wonderful response by notTHATdad.


Common sense is staying home if you're sick, taking vitamin c, staying hydrated, getting plenty of rest.  Not running around trying to beat the crap out of someone who took the last role of toilet paper.

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Re: Corona virus
« Reply #32 on: March 20, 2020, 12:21:55 AM »
Sophist, I think you actually think you're contributing to this discussion.  You're not.  You are no different than the hordes of shortsighted reporters and politicians trying to use this global pandemic to bring our President down.  If he fails, we fail.  It really is that simple.  We are in this together.  Getting millions of people on board with drastic measures to combat CV-19 effectively is extremely difficult.  Impossible, really, with people like you playing politics.  With all due respect, please be more constructive.

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Re: Corona virus
« Reply #33 on: March 20, 2020, 10:49:03 AM »
That's hilarious sophist.  Look where you get your information and you have the gall to make your presumptions about where I get mine???  I enjoy how you make this political, immediately.  Do you look at everyone through those lenses??  Do you compartmentalize all those you meet.  Really sad if you do.  I know that I can still love someone who listens to NPR or Fox News.  To fulfill your science requirement, I cited my source in case you missed this, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/   
If you took offense to chicken little, just know it was used in general terms.  I still think this doesn't warrant all the chaos and fear that is on display.  Look at the reactions I am getting just from making my opinion known on this board. 
Strawman and everyone else for that matter, look at the South Korea example.  #4 most when this broke, nowhere near that now without lockdown. 

https://www.aier.org/article/south-korea-preseved-open-infection-rates-are-falling/?fbclid=IwAR0N7Ut37DQrRJK66r-0r8cYBfMeW1UUxGu41IJVA8FsgTm_7MwSzsigeoo


Nice job of selective perception, Fowlmood!     Also wonderful response by notTHATdad.


Common sense is staying home if you're sick, taking vitamin c, staying hydrated, getting plenty of rest.  Not running around trying to beat the crap out of someone who took the last role of toilet paper.


Sophist, please try to keep up.  Turn off Faux News, do your own research.

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Re: Corona virus
« Reply #34 on: March 20, 2020, 05:16:07 PM »
South Korea has had the best numbers but when you look at our numbers so far we are not that far behind them. According to https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ South Koreas percentage of cases to deaths is 1.086% as of 5:12pm on March 20th. They have 169 cases per very million of their population


The US is at a 1.320% and we have 59 cases per million. Granted we have just started our testing so I'm sure the cases per million will sharply increase but if we can keep that death % low that would be ideal. 1.32% isn't the lowest its been since I've been tracking but its lower than when I started. We were originally at like 2.5% early last week. The lowest I've logged is 1.256% and that was earlier today. Let's all hope that number continues to trend downwards.

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Re: Corona virus
« Reply #35 on: March 24, 2020, 06:41:56 PM »
Everyone should take off their blinders, but it’s easier to insult people than to try to understand them.


People who think that the idiot they are pointing at doesn’t understand anything should be standing in front of a mirror.

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Re: Corona virus
« Reply #36 on: March 24, 2020, 10:44:55 PM »
Fact of the matter is there are way more mild cases than anyone even knows which makes the death rate much less than originally anticipated. China was caught off guard and has one of the worst ICU beds per capita than most everyone.  The US is more prepared than most if not all. https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2020/03/12/the-countries-with-the-most-critical-care-beds-per-capita-infographic/#3cf0c7af7f86

Look at Germany’s death rate who has the second best ICU beds after the US. They currently have 33,416 cases (grossly underestimated) and only 159 deaths = .00475 and yes it’s the sick and the old who unfortunately succumb. https://ncov2019.live/

and https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshuacohen/2020/03/23/germany-an-outlier-with-very-low-coronavirus-case-fatality-rate-and-minimal-number-of-patients-in-critical-condition/#1cfdcfd23a0e

Funny how there are roughly 450,000 flu related deaths each year (that’s conservative) and we haven’t heard a word about it for all these years.  https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(17)33293-2/fulltext

Do we all realize that there are over 150,000 deaths every single day in the world?  Guess what? There are 380,000 births per day - unsustainable. https://ourworldindata.org/births-and-deaths

When you look at people who’ve gone through this that are relatively healthy, the symptoms are so mild that they don’t even bother to get tested. Look at Tom Hanks, had the Blahs for a few days and completely better now.  Look at Rudy Gobert, said he lost his sense of smell 10 days into it and that’s it.  There’s thousands if not hundreds of thousands more.  The flu is never fun but that’s what it is - with a slightly higher death rate and/or some extra ability to take hold in the sick and old. There’s something that’s driven this world for millions of years and its called “the survival of the fittest”.  Don’t get me wrong, I’m a compassionate human being and have parents that are in their 80’s.  But they’ve lived a healthy life and during this pandemic or dempanic they’re gladly staying at home because they’re high risk.  Does that mean everyone else has to? Most people don't want to die or see their loved ones go but it's going to happen and yes it's painful.

If our government is going to force it’s will on the people, why don’t they permanently ban all fast food restaurants, smoking, drinking, etc…  There would be much less people in the position of having Diabetes, Heart Disease and the like and they would be able to power through this.

Funny how 1.7 million new cases of a virus called HIV with close to 750,000 deaths last year alone and 34 million still walking around with it and not a peep about it since the 90s.  My kids say they were told about it in first year of sex ed 3 years ago but nothing since… https://www.who.int/gho/hiv/epidemic_status/deaths/en/

Funny how the media became ultra focused on this pandemic after Feb 5th and beat everyone into a panic.  What happened on Feb 5th ? Hmmm

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-live-the-final-day-of-trumps-impeachment-trial-feb-5

Here's Feb 6th https://theweek.com/10things/894090/10-things-need-know-today-february-6-2020  - Note number 3

Then 10 days later https://theweek.com/10things/896322/10-things-need-know-today-february-16-2020

I'm off to hunt for TP. Or maybe I'll just take a shower after my deuce since I'm locked at home with no money anyway. No TP needed -Problem solved!
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Re: Corona virus
« Reply #38 on: March 27, 2020, 04:31:25 PM »
I pray that I'm wrong, but Covid 19 will easily kill over 2 million people worldwide and probably millions more over years.